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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #125 on: June 02, 2019, 11:11:01 PM »
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[Captain Obvious] Just a reminder, the constitution of the United States does not confer or create rights of any kind.[/Captain Obvious]

I certainly agree with you about the heinous nature of abortion as birth control and the extremes the left are taking it to.
But do we really want to limit what is permissible to those thing that are specifically spelled out in the COTUS/BOR?
There are any number of things we consider as natural/god given rights that are not specifically spelled out in the COTUS.
The BOR actually makes note of that fact -
Article [IX] (Amendment 9 - Unenumerated Rights)
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Do we want to live under the conditions of that which is not specifically permitted is prohibited? Or is it better to live under the premise of that which is not specifically prohibited is permitted?

Highlighting is mine.  But with an issue like abortion, which I am opposed to as is a majority of Americans, at the very least tax payer dollars should not be allocated to organizations who provide abortions, nor should they be allowed to sell body parts of aborted humans.  If you want an abortion, pay for it yourself or have it financed by those who believe it is not inhumane.  A moral society would direct tax dollars to support women with an unwanted pregnancy as well as having proper support and opportunity for the child to be placed with adoptive parents if the child is not wanted by the mother.  It seems that killing the unborn is less complicated by a jaded population.  Most of the argument for abortion is specious at best and bestial at worst.

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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #126 on: June 02, 2019, 11:33:51 PM »
Quote from: RoadKingLarry on May 25, 2019, 11:43:48 PM
[Captain Obvious] Just a reminder, the constitution of the United States does not confer or create rights of any kind.[/Captain Obvious]

I certainly agree with you about the heinous nature of abortion as birth control and the extremes the left are taking it to.
But do we really want to limit what is permissible to those thing that are specifically spelled out in the COTUS/BOR?
There are any number of things we consider as natural/god given rights that are not specifically spelled out in the COTUS.
The BOR actually makes note of that fact -
Article [IX] (Amendment 9 - Unenumerated Rights)
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Do we want to live under the conditions of that which is not specifically permitted is prohibited? Or is it better to live under the premise of that which is not specifically prohibited is permitted?

If the unborn child is a person, isn't he entitled to the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?  And if we don't know if he is a person yet, isn't he entitled to that presumption?  That's why at conception may not technically be correct, but morally it's the right answer; it's the earliest point at which the fetus's humanity is uncertain.

A better question IMHO is, why is fed.gov getting involved in an issue of state law? (manslaughter, or the equivalent thereof)

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But with an issue like abortion, which I am opposed to as is a majority of Americans, at the very least tax payer dollars should not be allocated to organizations who provide abortions, nor should they be allowed to sell body parts of aborted humans.  If you want an abortion, pay for it yourself or have it financed by those who believe it is not inhumane.  A moral society would direct tax dollars to support women with an unwanted pregnancy as well as having proper support and opportunity for the child to be placed with adoptive parents if the child is not wanted by the mother.  It seems that killing the unborn is less complicated by a jaded population.  Most of the argument for abortion is specious at best and bestial at worst.

https://babylonbee.com/news/moloch-says-he-may-rethink-presence-in-georgia-if-anti-abortion-bill-goes-into-effect
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #127 on: June 03, 2019, 11:28:26 AM »
What if this parade of losers is a leftist tactic to spread thin the Trump teams opposition research resources?

Or maybe, a candidate offered for every “intersection”, then at the appointed time they all start dropping out and coalescing around the chosen candidate.

I’d love to believe they are not unified, with nobody at the helm, just a bunch of stupid and insane weirdos.

Actually believing the narrative being presented about the left in the media seems like a bad idea. Why believe the stories they’re weaving? Particularly about themselves?

 
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #128 on: June 03, 2019, 11:36:49 AM »
Quote from: Ron on June 03, 2019, 11:28:26 AM
What if this parade of losers is a leftist tactic to spread thin the Trump teams opposition research resources?

Or maybe, a candidate offered for every “intersection”, then at the appointed time they all start dropping out and coalescing around the chosen candidate.

I’d love to believe they are not unified, with nobody at the helm, just a bunch of stupid and insane weirdos.

Actually believing the narrative being presented about the left in the media seems like a bad idea. Why believe the stories they’re weaving? Particularly about themselves?

 

Trump only really needs to worry about the one who comes out of the Dem convention relatively intact and unless someone other than from of this bunch pops out of nowhere to win it I don't think he's going to losing much sleep over it.
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #129 on: June 03, 2019, 12:12:11 PM »
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What if this parade of losers is a leftist tactic to spread thin the Trump teams opposition research resources?


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« Reply #130 on: June 03, 2019, 01:23:55 PM »
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« Reply #131 on: June 03, 2019, 06:05:53 PM »
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« Reply #132 on: June 03, 2019, 06:10:29 PM »
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« Reply #133 on: June 03, 2019, 06:16:51 PM »
Why did that remind me of the USS Hillary Clinton in Sea Quest?
Only watched maybe 10min of the show and hearing that was enough for me to not watch any more or it.

Sea Quest was an underwater Scfi show back in the 90s for those who don't know.
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #134 on: June 03, 2019, 11:43:53 PM »
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Why did that remind me of the USS Hillary Clinton in Sea Quest?
Only watched maybe 10min of the show and hearing that was enough for me to not watch any more or it.

Sea Quest was an underwater Scfi show back in the 90s for those who don't know.

Sorta an updated VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA??   [popcorn]
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« Reply #135 on: June 09, 2019, 11:14:31 AM »
Quote from: TommyGunn on June 03, 2019, 11:43:53 PM
Sorta an updated VOYAGE TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA??   [popcorn]

Actually kind of sort of. But instead of having Cold War James Bond LIKE stories and/or Lobster man, Seaweed Man, Aliens from Space etc..., want the nuclear rods from the Seaview to destroy the world stories it was more save the environment and PC orientated from what I've read since I only watched enough, hearing USS Hillary Clinton was enough, to know it wasn't for me.
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« Reply #136 on: June 09, 2019, 11:22:21 AM »
Where have we heard this before?

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STEPHANOPOULOS: Even if the House impeaches, the Senate isn’t going to convict the president. If you win in 2020, would you the Justice Department to pursue charges against President Trump?

O’ROURKE: I would want my Justice Department, any future administration’s Justice Department to follow the facts and the truth and to make sure at the end of the day there’s accountability and justice, without this, without that, this idea, this experiment of American democracy comes to a close. We were attacked unlike any other time in our 243-year history and we have a president who yet to acknowledge it and a president who has yet to be brought to justice. Yes, no matter who that is.

Beto O’Rourke: I Will Prosecute Trump If I Win in 2020
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/06/09/beto-orourke-i-will-prosecute-trump-if-i-win-in-2020/

In Trump's defense on not locking up Hillary maybe he feels it's maybe better to leave her out running her mouth continuing to be an embarrassment to the Dems instead of making her a martyr.   
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #137 on: June 09, 2019, 03:53:13 PM »
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Beto O’Rourke: I Will Prosecute Trump If I Win in 2020


I guess that's one less thing for Trump to worry about.
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #138 on: June 09, 2019, 09:18:05 PM »
Beto O'Rourke is a moron. [popcorn]
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #139 on: June 09, 2019, 09:55:15 PM »
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Beto O'Rourke is a moron. [popcorn]

How DARE you insult morons like that?
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #140 on: June 09, 2019, 10:32:59 PM »
Quote from: grampster on June 09, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
Beto O'Rourke is a moron. [popcorn]

He has a long road ahead of him to attain that lofty level of achievement.
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« Reply #141 on: June 09, 2019, 10:45:56 PM »
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O’ROURKE: I would want my Justice Department, any future administration’s Justice blah blah blah
In Trump's defense on not locking up Hillary maybe he feels it's maybe better to leave her out running her mouth continuing to be an embarrassment to the Dems instead of making her a martyr.   

for a second I thought the O'Rourke might be P.J.  Alas, no.
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« Reply #142 on: June 10, 2019, 08:56:41 AM »
Well that was awkward

‘Brutal’! Eric Swalwell ‘waiting for applause that didn’t come’ is DEFINITELY one of the most cringe-inducing videos of the Dem campaign season
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/06/09/brutal-eric-swalwell-waiting-for-applause-that-didnt-come-is-definitely-one-of-the-most-cringe-inducing-videos-of-the-dem-campaign-season/

Democrat presidential candidate Eric Swalwell: “I will be bold without the bull”
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #143 on: June 10, 2019, 12:14:34 PM »
DeBlasio kinda owning himself here:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/06/10/womp-womp-bill-de-blasio-got-how-many-votes-out-of-600-dems-polled-in-iowa/

Zero votes in the poll. His response is basically, "It's 600 Iowans, who cares?"  Stupid flyover hicks who don't know enough to vote for an NYC hero!
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #144 on: June 10, 2019, 12:51:26 PM »
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Beto O'Rourke is a moron. [popcorn]

Probably, but in this case, I think he's just saying what every candidate will say, if they want votes. Lock Him Up is now the unofficial slogan of the Dem. Party.
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Re: The 2020 Circus - All of the clowns, all of the time
« Reply #145 on: June 10, 2019, 12:52:33 PM »
Quote from: grampster on June 09, 2019, 09:18:05 PM
Beto O'Rourke is a moron. [popcorn]

Kind of says something about the many people that voted for him last go around.  Scary.
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« Reply #146 on: June 10, 2019, 12:59:17 PM »
I hope everyone with half a brain or more votes in 2020.  If that happened the Ds wouldn't get any votes at all. :rofl: :rofl:
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« Reply #147 on: June 10, 2019, 01:36:01 PM »
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Kind of says something about the many people that voted for him last go around.  Scary.

Yeah, well at least Robert isn't a serial killer.
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« Reply #148 on: June 10, 2019, 03:04:25 PM »
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Yeah, well at least Robert isn't a serial killer.

How do you know?
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« Reply #149 on: June 11, 2019, 08:47:33 AM »
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