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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #50 on: April 18, 2019, 08:50:20 AM »
Interesting. Man stopped from bringing gas and lighters into St Patricks Cathedral. Not releasing his name.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/st-patricks-cathedral-new-york-city

NY Post did:

https://nypost.com/2019/04/17/man-arrested-after-walking-into-st-patricks-cathedral-with-gas-cans/

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Marc Lamparello, 37, of New Jersey, entered the historic Midtown church about 8 p.m. with the flammable paraphernalia

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Lamparello is a CUNY student seeking his Ph.D. in philosophy, and has done stints as an adjunct lecturer at Lehman College, a police source said.

What's the over/under on his political leanings?

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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #51 on: April 18, 2019, 03:53:18 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2019, 04:36:15 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #53 on: April 19, 2019, 09:34:05 AM »
It was described as an accident by the media before the fire was even extinguished.

The heuristic that I apply to all media stories tells me that it was most likely arson committed by a Muslim based upon the immediate media narrative.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #54 on: April 19, 2019, 10:03:15 AM »
It was described as an accident by the media before the fire was even extinguished.

The heuristic that I apply to all media stories tells me that it was most likely arson committed by a Muslim based upon the immediate media narrative.

Seeing the scaffolding, I accepted that an accident was quite possible.

The absolute discounting and unwillingness to even accept the possibility that it was an act of desecration makes me believe that to be more and more likely.

It's like these people have to pretend the world isn't what it is. They MUST defend their fantasy.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #55 on: April 19, 2019, 12:07:03 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #56 on: April 19, 2019, 12:26:13 PM »
Really AP? Really?

https://twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/1119233586698362880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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They fling poo at us every chance they get.

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« Reply #57 on: April 19, 2019, 12:27:43 PM »
Even though the "experts" are still not allowed to enter the building because it's not considered to be stable, the "experts" have now concluded that the fire was caused by a short circuit.

I find that incredibly difficult to comprehend. I don't know what kind of electrical stuff they had in the attic space above the stone vaults and below the roof, but I doubt it would be anything that would cause a fire in the event of a short circuit. They apparently had a fire alarm/detection system. Those operate on low voltage -- 12 or 24 volts. And, unless it was a system as old as the building itself, a fire/smoke detection system would have self-monitoring, so if a short circuit occurred, the system would have initiated a trouble alert.

France, like all of Europe, uses 220-volt electric for lighting and convenience power. 220 volts can make a decent spark, or generate some heat if it shorts. But what was in the attic that could burn? Those roof timbers were so big that they say there are no trees anywhere in Europe large enough to replace them. It takes a LOT of heat to start a timber that big to burning. Thank about your fireplace, or a campfire. Take a log six inches in diameter at 40 or 50 degrees ambient temperature, with the bark scraped off it, and try to light it using a match. Or a Zippo. Not going to happen.

One article speculated that the fire started as a result of a malfunction in an elevator. Since the point of origin was near the intersection of the transept and the nave, there are no elevators there serving the building. There was an elevator of some kind in the scaffolding, for access to the spire they were restoring. That was outdoors, above the (metal) roof, and the scaffolding was steel (except for the plank walkways, I assume). I don't see how a short in the elevator could have started a fire in the attic.

At this point, there isn't enough information to determine how the fire started. IMHO there certainly isn't enough information to label it an act of terrorism ... but there also certainly isn't enough information to determine that it WASN'T an act of terrorism.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #58 on: April 19, 2019, 12:32:38 PM »
Even though the "experts" are still not allowed to enter the building because it's not considered to be stable, the "experts" have now concluded that the fire was caused by a short circuit.

I find that incredibly difficult to comprehend. I don't know what kind of electrical stuff they had in the attic space above the stone vaults and below the roof, but I doubt it would be anything that would cause a fire in the event of a short circuit.

Wiring for the Lights perhaps.



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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #59 on: April 19, 2019, 12:59:43 PM »
The more the left hyperventilated chanting “Russia Russia Russia” the less I believed any of what they said.

This is taking on the same pattern.

They are creating a narrative through saturation propaganda.

We’ll never know what happened so I’m assuming the worse.

Muslim desecration of ancient Christian symbol.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #60 on: April 19, 2019, 03:06:51 PM »
About 4 years ago an Art Professor do a laser scan of Notre Dame and the files are still out there and should be able to help in the restoration.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/notre-dame-andrew-tallon-laser-scan-trnd/index.html
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2019, 04:43:59 PM »
About 4 years ago an Art Professor do a laser scan of Notre Dame and the files are still out there and should be able to help in the restoration.

https://www.cnn.com/style/article/notre-dame-andrew-tallon-laser-scan-trnd/index.html

Except that Professor Tallon died, and it seems nobody knows where the digital files are located.  :facepalm:

Plus that idiot, Macron, is already making noises about not "restoring" it, but making it newer and better.  
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2019, 05:54:56 PM »
How and the heck can you misplace those point cloud files? ???
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #63 on: April 19, 2019, 05:56:01 PM »
They were on Hillary's server.
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« Reply #64 on: April 19, 2019, 05:57:45 PM »
They were on Hillary's server.

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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2019, 09:11:48 PM »
They were on Hillary's server.

Just ask the Chinese, then. I'm sure they have copies.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #66 on: April 19, 2019, 10:28:58 PM »
"Tourst mecca Notre Dame also revered as  place of worship."

Priceless.

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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2019, 03:31:07 PM »
I don't think the birtherizing of the arson/terrorism question tells us anything about what happened to Notre Dame. It is just typical left-think. Blaming brown people is worse than any terrorist act a brown man might commit, and they've told us so a hundred times. Every terrorist act is followed immediately with ominous talk about how horrifying it would be if there were any backlash against Brown Man Good. And it would be horrifying. Just, ya know, let's finish burying the victims before we get all down in the mouth about what some racist might do.
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« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2019, 03:36:53 PM »
It appears the yellow vests are rioting because people donated to rebuilding Notre Dame, and didn't give their money to the yellow vests.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/france-yellow-vest-protest-notre-dame
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2019, 03:39:03 PM »
Who's handling their PR?
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2019, 03:41:54 PM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #71 on: April 20, 2019, 03:42:51 PM »
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #72 on: April 20, 2019, 03:43:30 PM »
AOC?

Beat me to it.

But I'm not sure she could find her ass even if you gave her a compass and flashlight let alone France.
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Re: Notre Dame is on Fire
« Reply #73 on: April 20, 2019, 04:30:08 PM »
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/04/20/competition-to-redesign-notre-dame-cathedral-an-extraordinary-opportunity-for-wokeness/

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« Reply #74 on: April 20, 2019, 04:35:10 PM »
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/04/20/competition-to-redesign-notre-dame-cathedral-an-extraordinary-opportunity-for-wokeness/


I just came in to post that. I suppose this truly is the end of Notre Dame then. There's no way a "contest" will produce anything that pays tribute to it, and I guess it was just to old white guy to say, "Lets try to restore the original building". Sad.
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