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https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article230715509.html

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Fresno police are working with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to track down illegal, Chinese-made devices that convert a Glock semi-automatic pistol into a fully automatic weapon capable of firing a burst of bullets in seconds.

Automatic weapons, which can fire multiple rounds with a single trigger pull, have been illegal in the United States since passage of a federal law in the 1930s.    (not illegal: restricted,  but I digress)    Legal semi-automatic weapons require that a trigger be pulled for each shot. The emergence of inexpensive devices that can modify a semi-automatic Glock, one of the most popular handguns in the U.S., to automatic fire has caught the attention of law enforcement.

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Dyer said the conversion process used to modify the weapons is relatively simple and does not require the expertise of a gunsmith.

The difficulty of getting the modified guns off the street is made more complex because the conversion devices are not manufactured domestically; they are produced in China. So police are working with the ATF to track websites where they are offered for sale.


Random thoughts:

Amused that these devices are supposedly showing up on Amazon.

Wondering what the legality of possession of such a device, without the firearm, would be.  Akin to possession of an auto sear?

Not sure if this conversion is truly full-auto or creates a slam-fire condition.  I would need to examine the device more closely . . . for research purposes . . .

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2019, 04:44:07 PM »
It makes your Glock - fully - semiautomatic.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2019, 05:32:06 PM »
It makes your Glock - fully - semiautomatic.

And here I thought they were turning them into semi- fully automatic


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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2019, 05:36:09 PM »
When does the Hi Point version come out?
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2019, 06:12:36 PM »
Is this the Airsoft device made to make Airsoft "Glocks" F/A but that "just happens" to work in real guns?
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 09:02:51 PM »
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/crime/article230715509.html

Random thoughts:

Amused that these devices are supposedly showing up on Amazon. They were marketed towards airsofters first, hence Amazon.

Wondering what the legality of possession of such a device, without the firearm, would be.  Akin to possession of an auto sear?Yes, possession is illegal,  and arrests have been reported

Not sure if this conversion is truly full-auto or creates a slam-fire condition.  I would need to examine the device more closely . . . for research purposes . . . It makes it full auto by tripping the striker release after the slide has closed and the barrel is locked.



Glock auto sears are even more stupidly easy to make than AR lightening links. Anyone with a modicum of mechanical sense and a Glock to look at could make one from scratch in an afternoon,  but these are ready to go. They popped up on a couple builders groups I'm in on FB, and the general consensus was the folks posting them had to be ATF plants.  

That said, if I wanted a really impressive drive-by weapon, an auto G17(18) in a Roni, with a 100rd drum would be a pretty decent choice.  Jus' Sayin'

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2019, 09:28:44 PM »
Glocks with da switch..

Yeah, the BATFE started cracking down on these backplates a month or so ago.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2019, 06:42:42 AM »
And a liberal push to ban civilian Glock ownership coming in 3...2...1...
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2019, 09:54:00 AM »
. . . Yeah, the BATFE started cracking down on these backplates a month or so ago.
Only a month or so ago? It sure took 'em long enough - I remember seeing FA conversion backplates at least 10 years ago. (Maybe the BATmen were just waiting until enough people fell for their trap so they'd have a larger group to go after?   [tinfoil] )



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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2019, 10:04:48 AM »
And a liberal push to ban civilian Glock ownership coming in 3...2...1...
I am sure the police departments will be at the lead of that movement.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2019, 11:41:54 AM »
Glock auto sears are even more stupidly easy to make than AR lightening links. Anyone with a modicum of mechanical sense and a Glock to look at could make one from scratch in an afternoon,  but these are ready to go. They popped up on a couple builders groups I'm in on FB, and the general consensus was the folks posting them had to be ATF plants.  

That said, if I wanted a really impressive drive-by weapon, an auto G17(18) in a Roni, with a 100rd drum would be a pretty decent choice.  Jus' Sayin'

That is a good point about the Roni.  Upgrades like that make a full auto pistol more useful. 

I can't imagine going full auto on my Glock 22 in 40 S&W.  I might be able to hit the ground.  Can't guarantee anything else.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2019, 01:57:32 PM »
Yes, they were on Amazon... and on ebay too!

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/09/14/want-to-make-your-glock-full-auto/

 I wonder how many of them made it into the USA.  I'm guessing a lot.



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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2019, 03:22:06 PM »
Yes, they were on Amazon... and on ebay too!

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/09/14/want-to-make-your-glock-full-auto/

 I wonder how many of them made it into the USA.  I'm guessing a lot.




Yep, buy one of those plus a ‘cleaning trap adaptor’, its the ‘pound me in the ass prison’ special buy.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2019, 03:36:25 PM »
MechAg:
"I can't imagine going full auto on my Glock 22 in 40 S&W.  I might be able to hit the ground.  Can't guarantee anything else."

Maybe that's why they hold them sideways.

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2019, 03:43:23 PM »
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"I can't imagine going full auto on my Glock 22 in 40 S&W.  I might be able to hit the ground.  Can't guarantee anything else."

Maybe that's why they hold them sideways.
Yeah.   =D  Aim to the right and end up pointing to the left.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2019, 06:24:33 PM »
Don't these gangbangers realize that conversion to full auto is illegal?

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Somebody ought to tell them.

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2019, 07:14:11 PM »
MechAg:
"I can't imagine going full auto on my Glock 22 in 40 S&W.  I might be able to hit the ground.  Can't guarantee anything else."

Maybe that's why they hold them sideways.
Nah - they hold them sideways because that's the way they came out of the box. Duh.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2019, 02:16:52 PM »
They are still for sale, shipped from China as airlift parts!   :rofl:

http://www.sinairsoft.com/tactical-full-auto-switch-for-glockbd3486_p0619.html

Make sure you read the reviews!!!!
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2019, 02:25:30 PM »
ATF Honey Pot!
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2019, 02:31:37 PM »
They are still for sale, shipped from China as airlift parts!   :rofl:

http://www.sinairsoft.com/tactical-full-auto-switch-for-glockbd3486_p0619.html

Make sure you read the reviews!!!!



Sure is nice of them to give you the dimensions......

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2019, 02:35:10 PM »
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2019, 12:07:26 PM »
Quote from dogmush, Angel Eyes:

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Wondering what the legality of possession of such a device, without the firearm, would be.  Akin to possession of an auto sear?

Yes, possession is illegal,  and arrests have been reported.

That business of "constructive possession" has got to be beat down hard.  

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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2019, 07:57:51 PM »
Use to, or maybe still can, get them off of Wish.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2019, 09:52:32 PM »


Constructive possession need to go away.
In what may be an extreme "what if" scenario... How many of us are in "constructive possession" of bomb making materials? Reloading supplies,  black powder, plumbing parts, canon fuse....Not to mention the more common household  chemicals that can be used for destructive purposes.
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Re: Gangbangers turning Glocks into full-auto with Chinese help
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2019, 08:54:48 AM »
The conversion in use, with infra-red monitoring of gun temperature:

https://youtu.be/ub4OswUhLwo (15:58)

FYI only; I did not watch the whole thing.  I do not know if the demonstrator is a "qualified customer" or any of the legal consequences of this activity, so don't ask me.

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