Speaking of mass shootings and mental health

[Hawkmoon]

I don't think there's much argument around here that guns don't shoot people of their own volition, or that inanimate objects can't force people to go out and murder other people. The problem isn't "gun violence" or "guns," the problem is that sane people don't go out and murder bunches of other people. So it's a mental health problem.

So then we should probably be having a discussion about how to address that. And such a discussion would likely involve psychiatrists.

Anyone remember the Sandy Hook shooter? He had mental health problems. He had a psychiatrist. His psychiatrist is in the news.

https://www.nhregister.com/local/article/Adam-Lanza-s-psychiatrist-pleads-guilty-to-sex-13913370.php

[grampster]

I've said this before, that the liberal left has a self induced mental block about holding human beings accountable for their bad actions.  That's why they always blame guns.  It is a humanist mortal sin to call out the shooter as being evil or violently deranged.

[MechAg94]

The woman told investigators about the sexual relationship, saying she was “drugged up and out of my mind” on a cocktail of prescription drugs Fox prescribed, court documents state. The sexual encounters occurred at his Brookfield office and on a sailboat, he kept at Candlewood Lake, documents show.

Could be due to the drugs these doctors are prescribing even though this is a bad example.  This was the prescription of a predator going after this girl.  He should die in prison.

Fox told detectives in a Dec. 17, 2012, telephone interview that he had destroyed any records he had of his treatment of Lanza but recalled last seeing him when Lanza was about 15. He said the teen was “very rigid … resistant to engagement” and recalled that he had “aggression problems,” police said.

Looks like we may never know for Lanza since he destroyed records of what he did.  His treatment may have created the problem as far as we know.  


Certainly, this makes the gun part a smaller issue so it won't get any coverage.

[Hawkmoon]

Looks like we may never know for Lanza since he destroyed records of what he did.  His treatment may have created the problem as far as we know.  

Convenient, eh?

[BlueStarLizzard]

*snort* Crime in general has always been fueled by social and cultural factors much more so than anything else, and these particular types of crimes are directly related to how we deal with and view mental health in this country.

Human nature does want the simple solution and in out culture, that means blaming the object (guns, alcohol, drugs, art, media) rather than the core issue which is much more complex and much more difficult to rein in.
The truth of the matter is that there is no ultimate solution and the things we can actually do require a lot more than just banning something.

[230RN]

So why didn't Dr. Fox blame his sailboat?

[Angel Eyes]

He lacks your imagination.

[MechAg94]

*snort* Crime in general has always been fueled by social and cultural factors much more so than anything else, and these particular types of crimes are directly related to how we deal with and view mental health in this country.

Human nature does want the simple solution and in out culture, that means blaming the object (guns, alcohol, drugs, art, media) rather than the core issue which is much more complex and much more difficult to rein in.
The truth of the matter is that there is no ultimate solution and the things we can actually do require a lot more than just banning something.

Add personal responsibility into that.  Modern liberal society does not want to teach or enforce personal responsibility and accountability for one's actions.  

And in this case, they don't want talk about all these obvious causes this article brings to mind since it interferes with their crusade to disarm everyone and make self defense illegal.

[Pb]

The only think I can think of that would help would be to stop making this sickos famous.

The news media should bury these stories, not spread them nationwide.

Now these crazies know if they want millions of people to pore over their "grievances" all they have to do is murder a lot people.

[230RN]

^ "The news media should bury these stories, not spread them nationwide."

Impossible. The news outlets are in cahoots with those who want to ban guns for the ordinary citizen subject.

The more they can tout this stuff, the more likely the subjects will vote to ban them.

After all, political power comes from the muzzle of a gun.  Thus spake Mao.