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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2019, 09:45:28 AM »
Many on the American left see the American flag as a symbol of hate and oppression.

I would say a few, not many.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2019, 09:50:05 AM »
I would say there's been a pretty good uptick in the pass 10 years or so. It's become the fashionable "woke" thing to do for some.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2019, 09:53:48 AM »
I would say there's been a pretty good uptick in the pass 10 years or so. It's become the fashionable "woke" thing to do for some.

Every Democrat claiming to run for president has been passing through town pleading there case. I've seen more US Flags at these rallies then I have at past GOP campaign rallies. I live in Iowa, so it's a thing to hit this state hard between now and the 2020 caucus.

I say it's a few because if it was many, you'd see a lot more left leaning folks not displaying the flag or even wearing clothes with the flag crossed out. I think you just see it because you don't like it.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2019, 10:04:41 AM »
I'm not saying mainstream candidates have that view, at least publicly, but you also know even if they did they have to at least maintain the illusion of appealing to the center.

I'm still kind of old fashion in that when I say left I think of communist and other groups. What is considered far left now was simply called the left back in my day. Now you have extreme far left, far left, left, center, right, far right, extreme far right. Although many of the lines are burred. Maybe I need to update my terminology but It's lately gotten hard to keep up where anybody fits anymore. I'm so confused!
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2019, 10:33:02 AM »
Probably because burning a rainbow flag would be similar to burning a cross, it is seen as a symbol of hate.



 :rofl:

Everything action is a 'symbol of hate' if its done by anyone outside of the correct party. Free speech seems to only apply to some people.

Burn a rainbow flag- you're a nazi.
Burn an Israeli flag- you're woke.

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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2019, 10:48:46 AM »
Sometimes “hate” is appropriate.

HATE, verb transitive [Latin odi, for hodi.]

1. To dislike greatly; to have a great aversion to. It expresses less than abhor, detest, and abominate, unless pronounced with a peculiar emphasis.

How long will fools hate knowledge? Proverbs 1:22.

Blessed are ye when men shall hate you. Luke 6:22.

The Roman tyrant was contented to be hated, if he was but feared.

2. In Scripture, it signifies to love less.

If any man come to me, and hate not father and mother, etc. Luke 14:26.

He that spareth the rod, hateth his son. Proverbs 13:24.

HATE, noun Great dislike or aversion; hatred.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2019, 11:09:10 AM »
I would say a few, not many.
I would say too many.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2019, 04:48:41 PM »
Every Democrat claiming to run for president has been passing through town pleading there case. I've seen more US Flags at these rallies then I have at past GOP campaign rallies. I live in Iowa, so it's a thing to hit this state hard between now and the 2020 caucus.

I say it's a few because if it was many, you'd see a lot more left leaning folks not displaying the flag or even wearing clothes with the flag crossed out. I think you just see it because you don't like it.

I disagree.

Remember, when Hillary was campaigning during the last presidential election cycle she showed up at an event and didn't have any American flags on the stage. This resulted in a significant backlash, so flags were quickly materialized. I don't accept the suggestion that the presence of flags behind the leftist candidates is indicative of their respect for said flag. It just means they choose not to repeat Hillary's error in allowing the populace to see their disdain fior the flag of out nation on public display.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2019, 05:45:15 PM »
I would say too many.

Both sides are really good at playing the victim card.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2019, 06:52:57 PM »
I would like to correct my post about Hillary and American flags. It wasn't a Clinton event -- it was day one of the Democratic National Convention where there were no American flags on the stage.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/07/26/facing-criticism-dnc-concedes-puts-u-s-flags-on-stage-for-day-2-of-convention/comment-page-1/
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2019, 03:46:11 PM »
Probably because burning a rainbow flag would be similar to burning a cross, it is seen as a symbol of hate.

Burning the US Flag by an American Citizen is usually done as a protest to something the government has done. I'm not talking about radicals burning US Flags in other countries.

Burning the U.S. flag conveys hatred for America and Americans, no matter where you're doing it.*


*Obviously, that doesn't apply to flag retirement rituals.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2019, 04:47:30 PM »
Personally I believe that burning the US flag should be protected as free speech but there should be a few non-infringing restrictions.

A full environmental impact study must be conducted and reviewed by the EPA.
A specially trained and government certified fire watch must be posted.
If the use of volatile accelerants is planned a separate EPA clearance must be obtained.
A police safety squad must be used.
All of those must be completed and paid for in advance by the designated protestor before the protest event can be certified and a protest license issued.
And, the final requirement is that the flag to be burned must be tightly wrapped around the protestor before it is ignited.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2019, 05:09:25 PM »
So were they intending to fly the new, inclusive homosexual pride flag, or the old racist one?
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2019, 05:15:45 PM »
Personally I believe that burning the US flag should be protected as free speech but there should be a few non-infringing restrictions.

A full environmental impact study must be conducted and reviewed by the EPA.
A specially trained and government certified fire watch must be posted.
If the use of volatile accelerants is planned a separate EPA clearance must be obtained.
A police safety squad must be used.
All of those must be completed and paid for in advance by the designated protestor before the protest event can be certified and a protest license issued.


There are too many places where people have to do that just to cut down a tree on their own damn property, via regulations that most flag burners are big proponents of. What's good for the goose...
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2019, 06:40:42 PM »
Both sides are really good at playing the victim card.

Yeah, but one side is the amateur, the other the professional 
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2019, 09:30:43 PM »
Personally I believe that burning the US flag should be protected as free speech but there should be a few non-infringing restrictions.

A full environmental impact study must be conducted and reviewed by the EPA.
A specially trained and government certified fire watch must be posted.
If the use of volatile accelerants is planned a separate EPA clearance must be obtained.
A police safety squad must be used.
All of those must be completed and paid for in advance by the designated protestor before the protest event can be certified and a protest license issued.
And, the final requirement is that the flag to be burned must be tightly wrapped around the protestor before it is ignited.
I bet more major cities have ordinances about starting fires on public streets.  I guess they don't apply if it is a flag.
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Re: Gay Pride Flag and US Embassies
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2019, 08:18:55 AM »
I didn’t read the article.  LMK when the pride flag gets flown over the Iranian and Saudi embassies.
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