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https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/13/lawmaker-wants-navy-ship-named-senior-chief-killed-syria.html

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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer wants a U.S. Navy ship to be named for Senior Chief Cryptologic Technician (Interpretive) Shannon Kent, the Pine Plains, New York, native who spent much of her 15-year military career embedded with special operations troops and died Jan. 16 in a bombing in Manbij, Syria.

The honor would be the first for the Navy: Of the service's nearly 300 ships, fewer than a dozen are named for women and none commemorate a female service member killed in action.

It is Schumer so I am reluctant to agree with him.  However, what do the veterans think about this? 

She does sound like an accomplished soldier.  I am sure there are plenty of good men and women who have been killed in action in the last 20 years.  I find myself really without an opinion on this.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2019, 02:34:47 PM »
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/13/lawmaker-wants-navy-ship-named-senior-chief-killed-syria.html

It is Schumer so I am reluctant to agree with him.  However, what do the veterans think about this? 

She does sound like an accomplished soldier.  I am sure there are plenty of good men and women who have been killed in action in the last 20 years.  I find myself really without an opinion on this.

Didn’t the Navy name a ship after Giffords? I’d say this is much more deserving despite Schumer’s obvious virtue signaling.

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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2019, 02:37:03 PM »
Usually I would tend to disagree with something like this, and I still do. Plenty of deserving men and women have been killed in combat. Usually it takes a Medal of Honor or other significant service to get a ship named after you. (I consider the Obama years an aberration in the ship naming continuum)

Yes, she was quite respected in the SOF community and had plans but that does not IMO rise to the level of having a ship named after her. Often times local heroes get a VA clinic or Post Office named for them if there is enough support.

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ETA: As this was not a combat related death (as in direct conflict) but rather a suicide bombing while out at a restaurant I see even less of a reason to name a ship after her.

just call me cold and heartless.....

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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2019, 02:56:51 PM »
Agree with Bob.

It should take extraordinary valor for a service member to get a ship named after them.  MOH is a good indicator.

This sailor was, by all accounts, a solid professional and good at her job, but didn't have a chance to exhibit the heroism a ship naming should require.

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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2019, 03:09:02 PM »
Usually I would tend to disagree with something like this, and I still do. Plenty of deserving men and women have been killed in combat. Usually it takes a Medal of Honor or other significant service to get a ship named after you. (I consider the Obama years an aberration in the ship naming continuum)

Yes, she was quite respected in the SOF community and had plans but that does not IMO rise to the level of having a ship named after her. Often times local heroes get a VA clinic or Post Office named for them if there is enough support.

bob

ETA: As this was not a combat related death (as in direct conflict) but rather a suicide bombing while out at a restaurant I see even less of a reason to name a ship after her.


I agree

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just call me cold and heartless.....


Okay -- you're cold and heartless. That doesn't mean you're not right.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2019, 04:31:11 PM »
Concur with bob.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2019, 11:33:01 PM »
Agree with Bob.

Thousands of equally deserving Marines,  Soldiers and Sailors have bough it in the GWOT, she wasn't special.  Most are lucky to get a stretch of highway named after them.


 And *expletive deleted*ck Schumer,  since we're talking about him.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2019, 06:24:19 PM »
nothing against the Senior Chief, but SGT Leigh Ann Hester deserves it way more than she does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leigh_Ann_Hester




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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2019, 06:54:57 PM »
nothing against the Senior Chief, but SGT Leigh Ann Hester deserves it way more than she does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leigh_Ann_Hester


Does the Navy name ships after grunts?
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2019, 07:33:18 PM »
Does the Navy name ships after grunts?

Marines and MOH recipients, not sure about others

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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2019, 08:57:53 PM »
Does the Navy name ships after grunts?

http://www.navsource.org/

Go to Destroyers and Destroyer Escorts and usually with each one there a section detailing the ship's namesake. Quite a few grunts in there.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2019, 09:15:47 PM »
USNS ships are named after Army MOH recipients and Generals.
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Re: Lawmaker Wants Navy Ship Named for Senior Chief Killed in Syria
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2019, 02:48:47 PM »
So undeclared secret wars get their heroes too?
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