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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2019, 12:23:18 PM »
They did that when they picked Roger Moore to play Bond.
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I'm still fondly remembering Stefanie Powers as April Dancer, "The Girl from U. N. C. L. E."

I remember that . . . also Dianna Rigg as Emma Peel in The Avengers. I think she was preceded by Honor Blackman as Dr. Cathy Gale, but I'm not even sure those early episodes appeared on American TV. More recent spy series with female leads included Piper Perabo as Annie Walker in the show Covert Affairs, and Jennifer Garner as Sydney Bristow in the show Alias, which I found noteworthy because in nearly every episode, some bad guy snuck up in back of her as she was picking a lock or cracking a safe.  :rofl:

Anyway, with plenty of female spies, there's no good reason to mess with 007.   :mad:

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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2019, 01:34:14 PM »
I caulk that up to a bad casting choice, happens to the best of them. Besides the studio was hoping he would pull in a younger crowd than that what Ford usually pulls in.
Had he gone Chernobyl level libtard at that point? IIRC he was pretty was keeping his mouth shut at that point or the Hollywood tumor hadn't fully kicked in yet.

Bad casting choice is what I'm talking about. Terrible casting choice. Politics doesn't enter into it. I only refer to the HWNDU stuff because - well, it's just too funny to pass up.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2019, 03:37:46 PM »
They are movies.  Who cares. [popcorn]
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2019, 08:00:13 AM »
Local news radio had an interview with Albert Broccoli's daughter, and she had some... definite... things to say about the latest casting choice. As in... Bond is a man. Write roles for women instead of co-opting existing roles.
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2019, 08:12:36 AM »
They are movies.  Who cares. [popcorn]

Yea pretty much, no one is holding a gun to your head making you buy a ticket and watching the movies.

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« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2019, 08:43:24 AM »
Yea pretty much, no one is holding a gun to your head making you buy a ticket and watching the movies.



Which is why I said in the OP that I'm not watching any new Bond films. They're free to destroy a franchise, and I'm free to take my money elsewhere.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2019, 09:07:48 AM »
The Rageaholic did a good video on it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvSQQSPDObs
TheQuartering also has a good video on it, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VP0SCaTaN8
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2019, 09:17:05 AM »
Which is why I said in the OP that I'm not watching any new Bond films. They're free to destroy a franchise, and I'm free to take my money elsewhere.

Also they for the most part have run out of story lines from the Ian Flemming books.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2019, 09:50:19 AM »
RIP Star Wars
RIP Ghostbusters
RIP Star Trek
RIP Batman
RIP MIB
RIP James Bond

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At this point, I'm perfectly willing to walk away from defaced cultural icons.  I don't beep-ing care.  Do they realize this?
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2019, 09:51:51 AM »
Things like this are why I think we need copyright reform, limiting copyright duration to the life at the author at the longest (although I think limiting it to something similar as patents would be better in the long run).

If Bond were now in the public domain because the author passed, this would be a non-troversy. If someone didn't like the way one studio handled it, they could do their own movie that they think sticks more closely to the source material, and then the marketplace could render judgement on who had the right idea.

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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2019, 09:55:43 AM »
One thing to bear in mind is that the Bond series was never meant to be anything but mindless escapism and not to be taken seriously in any way shape or form.  Same for Star Wars, The I. Jones moves, Ghostbusters, Batman etc... For the most part they didn't preach or try to shove anything down your throat they just entertained. People primarily go to movies to escape from reality for a couple of hours but Hollywood seems to have largely forgotten that.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2019, 11:07:14 AM »
One thing to bear in mind is that the Bond series was never meant to be anything but mindless escapism and not to be taken seriously in any way shape or form.  Same for Star Wars, The I. Jones moves, Ghostbusters, Batman etc... For the most part they didn't preach or try to shove anything down your throat they just entertained. People primarily go to movies to escape from reality for a couple of hours but Hollywood seems to have largely forgotten that.

They have not forgotten that. They HATE that.

ANYTHING not relentlessly pushing their agenda must either be destroyed or coopted. Nothing can be allowed outside of leftism.

That is why they are going after these "cultural icons." They will either turn them to their own purposes or destroy them. Either one is a win for them. (And, yes, burn a pile of cash doing it too, but they have money to burn and since they "torment us for our own good [they] will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
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« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2019, 12:02:38 PM »
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1960-early 70s pretty much everything coming out Hollywood were preachy movies.
1975 Jaws comes out and is considered by many the first summer blockbuster. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment.
1977 Star Wars come out of nowhere and blows the box office up. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment and people couldn't get enough of it and then for the next 30+ years movies were for the most part pure entertainment. The MCU until the most recent movies seem to understand this but even it has showed signs of crashing and burning.
Now it seems like they've gone back to the 60s and early 70 and are scratching their heads are why revenue is down. Guess we need the next Jaws and/or SW to make them realized their mistake.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2019, 12:53:44 PM »
Also they for the most part have run out of story lines from the Ian Flemming books.

For the most part? They had run through all the book titles years ago. (Including The Spy Who Loved Me, which wasn't even a book, just a short story.
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2019, 01:20:47 PM »
The ironic thing about Hollywood's hypocrisy (if you are old enough and paid attention)  is that Hollywood has promoted the notion of the evil black man;  the government as an evil entity;  violent, bloody movies in which the heroes are the ones who kill the most using guns. 
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« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2019, 02:42:59 PM »
They are movies.  Who cares. [popcorn]

Yeah, but at least they're not nerd franchise movies.
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« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2019, 02:55:13 PM »
They have not forgotten that. They HATE that.

ANYTHING not relentlessly pushing their agenda must either be destroyed or coopted. Nothing can be allowed outside of leftism.

That is why they are going after these "cultural icons." They will either turn them to their own purposes or destroy them. Either one is a win for them. (And, yes, burn a pile of cash doing it too, but they have money to burn and since they "torment us for our own good [they] will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
Years ago, my mother used to watch the TV show Designing Women. She stopped when the show began to get "preachy" and after it was cancelled, she saw an interview where the producer said she HAD to make it preachy, because people kept voting the wrong way, e.g., for Republicans.

And of course, as M*A*S*H began to become preachy, it became less funny, and ratings declined. (I found it was easy to figure out when an episode was directed by Alan Alda, because it sucked.) Even Paul Harvey commented on the decline of comedy on the show.

It's been decades since I watched Saturday Night Live, because it's been decades since it was funny. And I haven't tuned in to the Tonight Show since Leno left. (And Leno was no Johnny Carson.) Each case, the shows became relentlessly left wing, and worse, unfunny. I was able to laugh when Johnny Carson played Reagan, because he could poke fun at someone in a comedic way; today's shows are just plain mean spirited.

And . . . C.S. Lewis was right about people who torment us for "our own good" . . . time to send in the robber barons!  :rofl:
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Re: James/Jasmine Bond
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2019, 04:59:17 PM »
Things you think of while in the shower

1960-early 70s pretty much everything coming out Hollywood were preachy movies.
1975 Jaws comes out and is considered by many the first summer blockbuster. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment.
1977 Star Wars come out of nowhere and blows the box office up. Did it preach? Nope, pure entertainment and people couldn't get enough of it and then for the next 30+ years movies were for the most part pure entertainment. The MCU until the most recent movies seem to understand this but even it has showed signs of crashing and burning.
Now it seems like they've gone back to the 60s and early 70 and are scratching their heads are why revenue is down. Guess we need the next Jaws and/or SW to make them realized their mistake.
Not a bad point.  I have tried to watch reruns of The Rifleman and I found it so preachy I couldn't watch it.
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« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2019, 07:54:13 PM »
Not a bad point.  I have tried to watch reruns of The Rifleman and I found it so preachy I couldn't watch it.

I could never hear the preachy over the rifle shots.... [tinfoil] .....  =D
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« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2019, 08:22:25 PM »
And of course, as M*A*S*H began to become preachy, it became less funny, and ratings declined. (I found it was easy to figure out when an episode was directed by Alan Alda, because it sucked.) Even Paul Harvey commented on the decline of comedy on the show.

Found it harder and harder to watch MASH after the third or fourth season or so. Seemed like the point of just about every episode after that was to ram the liberal talking point of the week down your throat. It got unbearable.
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« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2019, 09:25:25 PM »
Found it harder and harder to watch MASH after the third or fourth season or so. Seemed like the point of just about every episode after that was to ram the liberal talking point of the week down your throat. It got unbearable.

Same here. I loved the early seasons, but later on - well, "unbearable" is an understatement.
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« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2019, 09:56:45 PM »
I'll confess to being a big fan of James Bond.  The books and the films.  When Dame Judi Dench was cast as M, I recoiled against the casting choice. But I watched and found I enjoyed her in the role.
When Daniel Craig was cast as Bond, I recoiled again.  Blonde hair. Muscle bound. Not Bond.  But in many ways, he was better than Brosnan, and even more so than Moore.
Now, I'll say again. What I've read is that the film has James Bond retired, and a new agent is assigned the number 007.  SHE IS NOT JAMES BOND.  Bond comes out of retirement to fight the baddies.
Now, this may be as bad as you all say.  Or it may be much ado about nothing. Time will tell.  I'll go see the movie when it comes out and let you all know.
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« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2019, 10:03:50 PM »
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At this point, I'm perfectly willing to walk away from defaced cultural icons.  I don't beep-ing care.  Do they realize this?

No.  They don't care about you.  They only care about those whom their market research indicates will spend the  money to be brainwashed.

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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2019, 11:39:16 PM »
Taking a wait and see on that one. Hopefully they realized Cap Woke is not the way they should be going.
Although the recent comments I've seen about Spiderman possibly going full on flaming gay has got me wondering. The actor, what's is name, has stated he's all for it.

Now Natalie Portman is the new Thor:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/natalie-portman-thor-4-love-and-thunder-1203274705/
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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2019, 07:55:21 AM »
Now Natalie Portman is the new Thor:

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/natalie-portman-thor-4-love-and-thunder-1203274705/

To be fair, Jane Foster becoming Thor is a storyline from the comics.