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Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« on: July 14, 2019, 07:48:32 PM »
And then you did this:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-targets-four-freshman-house-members-pelosi-in-sunady-tweet-storm

The dems were nicely tearing themselves apart this week, and now he's given them and others a rally point that reduces the fun in-fighting that has been going on, with people (democrats even!) finally rising up against "the squad". He was doing so well on the tweets this week too, even supporting Pelosi against "the squad". Now everybody is rallying around the mean girls again. All he had to do was to sit back and watch. Oh well.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2019, 08:00:31 PM »
 [popcorn]
The 3 stooges will try to take the advantage and overstep again against the establishment DNC.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 08:06:37 PM »
[popcorn]
The 3 stooges will try to take the advantage and overstep again against the establishment DNC.

They definitely will. This will just be added to Trump's barrel of twitter gaffs and forgotten.  I just hated to see all the momentum this week go to waste.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2019, 08:40:51 PM »
I think he really stirred up some good crap >:D
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2019, 10:08:31 PM »
He makes a good point.

What do folks barely out of their third world *expletive deleted*it holes know about running first world nations?

They didn’t build that.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 08:41:54 AM »
They definitely will. This will just be added to Trump's barrel of twitter gaffs and forgotten.  I just hated to see all the momentum this week go to waste.

I've stopped thinking that Trump's choices were just him being unable to control himself.

Did you see the polling on the "squad" over the weekend? AOC has a HUGE amount of name recognition (73%) and only something like 17% had a positive impression of her.

One of the others (Talib, I believe) had only a 53% name recognition, and a NINE% (I spelled it out because it's so abysmal) positive impression.

He's raising their profile and, yes, stopping the infighting, because he wants THEM to be the face of the Democrats.

It's possible this is all just by chance, but it works out in his favor far too often for me to believe that, anymore.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2019, 09:02:30 AM »
I've stopped thinking that Trump's choices were just him being unable to control himself.

Did you see the polling on the "squad" over the weekend? AOC has a HUGE amount of name recognition (73%) and only something like 17% had a positive impression of her.

One of the others (Talib, I believe) had only a 53% name recognition, and a NINE% (I spelled it out because it's so abysmal) positive impression.

He's raising their profile and, yes, stopping the infighting, because he wants THEM to be the face of the Democrats.

It's possible this is all just by chance, but it works out in his favor far too often for me to believe that, anymore.


Good points.

I believe it's Omar that had the 9%. Deservedly so. It's also important to point out that, IIRC, that was a poll of Democrats specifically.

I do continue to think that the more "the squad" puts themselves in the news, the better it is for Trump 2020. Pelosi is right that it's their twitter following that's big, not their national following.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2019, 09:08:46 AM »
Much better:

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"When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologize to our Country, the people of Israel and even to the Office of the President, for the foul language they have used, and the terrible things they have said," Trump tweeted Monday. "So many people are angry at them & their horrible and disgusting actions."

He continued: "If Democrats want to unite around the foul language & racist hatred spewed from the mouths and actions of these very unpopular & unrepresentative Congresswomen, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. I can tell you that they have made Israel feel abandoned by the U.S."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-doubles-down-on-go-back-tweets-amid-outrage-calls-on-radical-congresswomen-to-apologize
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 10:02:22 AM »
I don't really see any problem with Trump's original tweet.  He wasn't wrong and it is far from the worst thing he has ever put out on Twitter.  If there is anything I wonder about is he was sort of inserting himself into a Pelosi/AOC catfight.  I think he had his reasons. 
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 01:15:00 PM »

Good points.

I believe it's Omar that had the 9%. Deservedly so. It's also important to point out that, IIRC, that was a poll of Democrats specifically.

I do continue to think that the more "the squad" puts themselves in the news, the better it is for Trump 2020. Pelosi is right that it's their twitter following that's big, not their national following.


Interesting realization I just had.

The "Squad" is apparently 4 freshman congresswomen, who have "large followings".

Ok, I can name 3: AOC, Talib, and Omar. Who is #4? I'm assuming it's the Representative AOC referenced in her tweet as being able to speak spanish (and it's amusing that obviously means AOC doesn't), but I have no idea who she is, where she represents, or what kind of "following" she has.

Is she the mean-girl hanger-on in the clique?
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 01:48:38 PM »
Interesting realization I just had.

The "Squad" is apparently 4 freshman congresswomen, who have "large followings".

Ok, I can name 3: AOC, Talib, and Omar. Who is #4? I'm assuming it's the Representative AOC referenced in her tweet as being able to speak spanish (and it's amusing that obviously means AOC doesn't), but I have no idea who she is, where she represents, or what kind of "following" she has.

Is she the mean-girl hanger-on in the clique?

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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 02:01:04 PM »
He makes a good point.

What do folks barely out of their third world *expletive deleted*it holes know about running first world nations?

They didn’t build that.

You do know that, of the four Congresswomen he was referencing, three are native born Americans, right?

That's what makes it a stupid tweet.  He doesn't actually have a good point.

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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2019, 02:33:53 PM »
Ayanna Pressley

Zero name recognition on that. You could literally be making up the name.* Still no idea where she represents or why she's in the "Squad". (Other than she must be some version of "of color" because that's the only important thing in the modern left identity politics.)




*(I'm not saying you are, I'm just saying it's not even an "OH!!! That's who it is.")
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2019, 02:45:04 PM »
Zero name recognition on that. You could literally be making up the name.* Still no idea where she represents or why she's in the "Squad". (Other than she must be some version of "of color" because that's the only important thing in the modern left identity politics.)


An example of why she's in the squad:

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Rep Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) “We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice”
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2019, 03:37:01 PM »
I say keep it up Donald!  He's the only Republican since RR who has the balls to stick up for America.  Listening to all those polite, white shoe, Republican arseholes on the news today makes me want to vomit.   According to them the Ds/Leftists/Marxists can call Americans and America any foul thing they want and our side is supposed to tut tut and say nothing.  Well, feck em and feed em rice!
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 03:54:01 PM »
An example of why she's in the squad:


OHHH!! That's who she is. (See, now I got the recognition.)

Yeah, she fits in perfectly.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2019, 03:57:58 PM »
Looks like Pelosi is calling for a congressional resolution specifically against Trump's tweet, and specifically naming him. Kinda the opposite of what she did with Omar's racist comments.

Maybe Trump did know what he was doing with that tweet...
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2019, 05:12:41 PM »
He's putting faces to names for the people on the right that didn't vote for him last time.  He's pointing out exactly who the enemy is, what they stand for and making the left (Pelosi and the rest) stand up and defend them.  I think it's great.

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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2019, 07:51:20 PM »
Well, interesting:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/07/15/checkmate-scott-adams-calls-the-game-for-president-trump-after-racist-tweet-blowback/

That is sort of what I just heard talked about on the radio.  Socialism is polling poorly among even Democrats. 

One comment I heard was that Trump doesn't always win the news cycle, but he has a very good track record for the long game.  That is why I stopped worrying about what he is tweeting or saying.  9 times out of 10, he has a reason for doing it and it really doesn't matter to me (no force of law or official record).  Is he playing 4D Chess?  I don't know about that, but his opponents are playing checkers. 
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2019, 07:59:24 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIPeLvhjwXI

Trump pretty much doubled down on his comments at a press conference today.  (I guess this was linked in the twitchy thread)

1.  I love that he almost never runs away from his previous comments. 
2.  The border is a winning issue. 
3.  He mentioned the economy last and I think that is a winning issue also.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2019, 08:02:42 PM »
You do know that, of the four Congresswomen he was referencing, three are native born Americans, right?

That's what makes it a stupid tweet.  He doesn't actually have a good point.

I wish I knew why that  happened .... beyond the "stoopidz,"  that is.
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2019, 09:55:40 PM »
You do know that, of the four Congresswomen he was referencing, three are native born Americans, right?

That's what makes it a stupid tweet.  He doesn't actually have a good point.


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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2019, 10:22:07 PM »
I don't think it matters. 


I want politicians who speak their mind and I am willing to accept a certain number of foot-in-mouth moments or incoherent moments to have that. 
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Re: Aw Trump, You Were Doing So Well on the Twitter
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2019, 11:26:29 PM »
I've stopped thinking that Trump's choices were just him being unable to control himself.

Did you see the polling on the "squad" over the weekend? AOC has a HUGE amount of name recognition (73%) and only something like 17% had a positive impression of her.

One of the others (Talib, I believe) had only a 53% name recognition, and a NINE% (I spelled it out because it's so abysmal) positive impression.

He's raising their profile and, yes, stopping the infighting, because he wants THEM to be the face of the Democrats.

It's possible this is all just by chance, but it works out in his favor far too often for me to believe that, anymore.

Yeah. People can call it 4-D OODA loop chess (with or without sarcasm) but it's fascinating how often he bucks conventional wisdom and comes out on top.

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