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Guns and Mormons don't mix
« on: September 08, 2019, 03:47:06 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/27/us/church-leaders-weapon-policy-change/?iid=ob_article_footer_expansion

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints now prohibits firearms and other deadly weapons on church property. I'm not a Mormon, so that may explain why I find it inexplicable that in a time when other denominations are looking to arm themselves in the face of multiple mass shootings in houses of worship, this entire denomination is formally taking a head-in-the-sand approach and pretending that not allowing parishioners to carry guns is somehow going to keep the faithful safe. This is the sort of magickal thinking I usually associate with politicians.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2019, 04:39:14 PM »
The Mormans have something of a history of being violently attacked due to their beliefs.
It boggles my mind that they think that somehow that is no longer a possibility.
My guess is that there will be an attack on one of their gun free safe spaces sooner rather later.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2019, 05:43:18 PM »
Right up there with rabidly anti 2A Jews.  It makes no sense.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2019, 05:50:44 PM »
This is exactly what I meant when I said the church's hierarchy has been completely infiltrated same as the roman catholic church.

The last genuine leader was Ezra Taft Benson.


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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2019, 06:03:19 PM »
This is exactly what I meant when I said the church's hierarchy has been completely infiltrated same as the roman catholic church.

The last genuine leader was Ezra Taft Benson.



Funny how nearly every hierarchy in society gets converged and works against the very people the organization was founded to serve.

Governments, churches, corporations, charities ...

So many end up ignoring or worse yet preying upon their own.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2019, 06:32:33 PM »
Mormon, not Morman.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2019, 06:55:50 PM »
The Mormans have something of a history of being violently attacked due to their beliefs.

They're also known for occasionally instigating attacks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_Massacre

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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2019, 07:33:54 PM »
Mormon, not Morman.

Apologies. OP corrected.

Although the powers that be have now stated that they no longer want the church to be known or referred to as "Mormon" (even if it's spelled correctly).
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2019, 08:24:43 PM »
Latter Day Saints and intelligence services mix real well from what I gather.
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2019, 09:25:43 PM »
I just drove past Nauvoo last week, no time to stop. Did they forget that or why someone like Porter Rockwell seemed necessary?
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2019, 01:31:17 AM »
Latter Day Saints and intelligence services mix real well from what I gather.

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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2019, 02:41:10 PM »
One of the 12 Apostles of the Church of Latter Day Saints, or whatever it is, is a guy named Dallin Oaks...

His granddaughter was my next door neighbor for several years.

I got the impression from her that he was extremely conservative and old line. I wonder how he feels about this.
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2019, 08:06:24 PM »
I'd like to hear from Larry Corriea or George Hill about this. 
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2019, 08:37:07 PM »
Or Marnoot.

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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2019, 09:23:03 PM »
Or Marnoot.

Never knew we had any resident Mormons,  even better.
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2019, 05:57:54 AM »
I'd like to hear from Larry Corriea or George Hill about this. 

Because I’m Mormon and a gun nut, I had a lot of people ask me about the news articles that were going around saying the church had banned guns from church buildings. It’s a stupid policy, but not new. They just updated the general handbook (that’s like the binder for how to run a ward). They’ve already banned guns from church buildings since back when I was teaching CCW ten years ago. A multitude of us ignore it and Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. The handbook also says I’m not supposed to use foul language, and you can see how well that has stuck.

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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2019, 06:16:00 PM »
Never knew we had any resident Mormons,  even better.

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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2019, 06:58:32 PM »
Funny how nearly every hierarchy in society gets converged and works against the very people the organization was founded to serve.

Governments, churches, corporations, charities ...

So many end up ignoring or worse yet preying upon their own.

What's the quote about if an organization isn't specifically right wing, it will eventually become left wing?
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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2019, 08:49:07 PM »
"Leftism destroys everything good." -  Ron

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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2019, 08:51:57 PM »


That's brilliant.  Thanks for the link,  I need to check MHN more often.
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2019, 09:55:30 AM »
https://youtu.be/i2l4Wx9YZ1E

:)  I almost posted the same thing, but decided it was too stupid (I guess I forgot where I was)
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Re: Guns and Mormans don't mix
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2019, 10:11:56 AM »
:)  I almost posted the same thing, but decided it was too stupid (I guess I forgot where I was)
I haven't seen that movie in a while.  Forgot about that scene. 

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Re: Guns and Mormons don't mix
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2019, 10:22:41 AM »

http://monsterhunternation.com/2019/08/30/this-week-on-the-internet/

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I like that.
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