Matt Brackens worst case impeachment scenario

[Ron]

Here is my worst-case impeachment scenario.

A. Adam Schiff's kangaroo inquiry secretly drafts articles of impeachment. Their validity matters not one whit.

B. The articles of impeachment (valid or bogus, it doesn't matter) go to the house floor. It passes easily, with every Democrat and some GOP congressmen voting to send it to the senate for an impeachment trial.

C. Mitch McConnell immediately moves for a full Senate trial. He has already said he would do this, and I think I know why: his family is just as corrupt as the Biden family, and he wants Trump's swamp-draining to end ASAP, before Trump's anti-corruption push eventually moves on to other corrupt senators, including himself.

D. 20+ GOP senators vote to convict Trump, shocking the nation and the world, and leading to his removal from office.

IMHO, some GOP senators will do it to hide their own corruption from further examination. Some will do it because of their personal animosity toward President Trump. Some will do it because they are already under deep state (corrupt FBI/CIA) blackmail control. Some will do it for the favors they will be promised following Trump's removal. Some will do it because they are just plain ornery contrarians.

Here is a list of 18 GOP senators who I think could vote to convict Trump in a full senate impeachment trial. Throw in a few total surprises (blackmail, etc) and the result might just shock the world. They only need 20. Here is my list of 18 (so far) potential GOP votes against Trump. Please let me know if you totally disagree with any of these possible votes to convict Donald Trump, or if you have some more senate GOP names for my list.

1. Mitch McConnell KY
2. Mitt Romney UT
3. Ben Sasse NE
4. Susan Collins ME
5. Ron Johnson WI
6. Richard Burr NC
7. Roger Wicker MS
8. Lisa Murkowski AK
9. Lamar Alexander TN
10 Mike Lee UT
11. Marco Rubio FL
12. Joni Ernst IA
13. Martha McSally AZ
14 Cory Gardner CO
15. Roy Blunt MO
16. Rob Portman OH
17. Pat Toomey PA
18. Rand Paul KY

[Ron]

Zoiks!

That would really suck.

Revenge of the swamp.

[RoadKingLarry]

Nationwide shitstorm to immediately follow.

[brimic]

I would take Ron Johnson and probably Rand Paul off that list.
Unless Johnson has been pedo-compromises, he’s a pretty solid Trump supporter

[Fly320s]

Is this from Matt Bracken or Ron?

[Ron]

Is this from Matt Bracken or Ron?

Sorry, I meant to put quotes on there, that's Matt.

[RocketMan]

Sadly, this conforms to what have been my expectations all along.  I really suspect Trump will be a little shy of a one term president.

[Fly320s]

Sadly, this conforms to what have been my expectations all along.  I really suspect Trump will be a little shy of a one term president.

That is what I expect, too.

He is too brazen and egotistical to know how to finesse things in DC.

[p12]

I’m with Rush on this one.

Impeachment is their 2020 campaign. Pelosi had an opportunity to call for a vote on impeachment and she shot it down.

The dems can’t win on issues. All they can do is seek to taint Trump to reduce his support in the next election.


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[MechAg94]

Trump seems to be maintaining a 50% approval rating despite tons of negative press and likely even the polling organizations hate him.  He continues to draw huge crowds at all his events.  I haven't heard of that happening at any of the Democrat event.  IMO, unless something completely different happens over the next year, he will win a second term easily. 

Unless this impeachment stuff actually digs up actionable stuff, I don't see anything happening.  Impeachment and Russia and "Name That Scandal" has been the big headline for 3 years since before Trump took office.  Do any of you really think something is going to come up now?  I would think the odds of a physical attack on Trump are higher than the odds for impeachment. 
 
It really is very early and no one knows for sure what will happen until states actually start voting in the primaries early next year.  IMO, someone like Tulsi would be a more effective candidate against Trump than Biden or Warren.  Lots can still happen though.

I would add that so far the Economy is still doing well.  That generally favors the incumbent. 

[AZRedhawk44]

Matt Bracken has been one of those guys preaching the end of the world is only 5-10 years away, for the last 25+ years.

I laugh that he merits a thread in this Politics forum.

[Regolith]

Trump seems to be maintaining a 50% approval rating despite tons of negative press and likely even the polling organizations hate him.  He continues to draw huge crowds at all his events.  I haven't heard of that happening at any of the Democrat event.  IMO, unless something completely different happens over the next year, he will win a second term easily. 

Unless this impeachment stuff actually digs up actionable stuff, I don't see anything happening.  Impeachment and Russia and "Name That Scandal" has been the big headline for 3 years since before Trump took office.  Do any of you really think something is going to come up now?  I would think the odds of a physical attack on Trump are higher than the odds for impeachment. 
 
It really is very early and no one knows for sure what will happen until states actually start voting in the primaries early next year.  IMO, someone like Tulsi would be a more effective candidate against Trump than Biden or Warren.  Lots can still happen though.

I would add that so far the Economy is still doing well.  That generally favors the incumbent. 

Pretty much this. And from what's been leaking out of the "impeachment" proceedings the last few days, the witnesses aren't giving the Democrats anything that remotely validates their accusations. The whole charade is falling flat on its face. This is going to be Russiagate 2.0, and I think Pelosi knows it, which is why she hasn't convened a full House vote. The Democrats in reddish districts would get tossed out on their ass if they voted for it.

[brimic]

Matt Bracken has been one of those guys preaching the end of the world is only 5-10 years away, for the last 25+ years.

I laugh that he merits a thread in this Politics forum.

I think a lot of his predictions  are pretty close, just the timeframe is way off.

-ATF running rogue false flag operations to try to foment public opinion on gun control.
- A billionaire running a human trafficking/blackmail honeypot operation on a private island.
-A certain political party allowing unchecked migration across the southern border to gain permanent political control over large parts of the US.

[Ron]

Since Trump was so improbably elected I try to listen and weigh the thoughts of some of the folks on the fringe a little more.

Whatever's going on behind the scenes it's completely different than what we are being told in the mainstream press.

Any honest appraisal of the situation demands that conclusion.

Brackens paranoia about the deep state turned out to be justified.

I posted this mostly as reminder that supposed allies or folks on "our" side may in fact not be on our side.

[brimic]

Since Trump was so improbably elected I try to listen and weigh the thoughts of some of the folks on the fringe a little more.

Whatever's going on behind the scenes it's completely different than what we are being told in the mainstream press.

Any honest appraisal of the situation demands that conclusion.

Brackens paranoia about the deep state turned out to be justified.

I posted this mostly as reminder that supposed allies or folks on "our" side may in fact not be on our side.

Go here: https://www.youtube.com/user/stevepieczenik

He started putting out videos about what is going on behind the scenes on a weekly basis since the day or so before the 2016 election.

Look into his background, he’s been involved with military intelligence and ‘regime changes’ for decades.
I find him highly believable, which is a terrible thing, because it shows how far down the rabbit hole we all are. The MSM is the equivalent of Soviet era Pravda.

[Perd Hapley]

I’m with Rush on this one.

Impeachment is their 2020 campaign. Pelosi had an opportunity to call for a vote on impeachment and she shot it down.

The dems can’t win on issues. All they can do is seek to taint Trump to reduce his support in the next election.

No, I think they're doing it mainly because they think it will get them a few more votes. And they might be right. Whether that wins them the presidential election next year, I don't know.

[MechAg94]

The problem is their track record is that these accusations amount to very little.  I think the only people who believe it are the hard core democrats.  Then again, we will see.

The question in my mind is when this current impeachment/Ukraine issue finally falls apart, what will the next accusation be?  I am certain there will be one or two more before the election. 

[MechAg94]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/in-san-diego-as-the-wall-goes-up-border-apprehensions-are-going-down.amp?__twitter_impression=true
In San Diego, officials say new wall is helping bring border numbers down

Do you think stories like this will help Trump? 

[RocketMan]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/in-san-diego-as-the-wall-goes-up-border-apprehensions-are-going-down.amp?__twitter_impression=true
In San Diego, officials say new wall is helping bring border numbers down

Do you think stories like this will help Trump?

The tragedy is that when the first completely Democrat legislature and administration take power, these new walls will be torn down.

[MechAg94]

Tearing it down is harder than preventing it from being built in the first place.  I guess it depends on how many Congressmen are taking "campaign donations" from drug cartels.

[RoadKingLarry]

how many Congressmen are taking "campaign donations" from drug cartels.

How many ya got? Probably better than 50% is my guess or at least everyone that is opposed to the wall or border security in general.

[Andiron]

I think a lot of his predictions  are pretty close, just the timeframe is way off.

-ATF running rogue false flag operations to try to foment public opinion on gun control.
- A billionaire running a human trafficking/blackmail honeypot operation on a private island.
-A certain political party allowing unchecked migration across the southern border to gain permanent political control over large parts of the US.

This,  because it's absolutely worth repeating.  Bracken may be a lot of things, including a mediocre SHTF author, but his ideas are plausible.

[MechAg94]

https://thegreggjarrett.com/james-clapper-obama-ordered-us-to-start-the-witch-hunt/
James Clapper: Obama Ordered Us to Start the Witch Hunt

This seemed related to the subject.  Stuff we knew but wasn't admitted to.

[MechAg94]

Also related....

https://babylonbee.com/news/study-finds-more-people-would-support-impeachment-if-anyone-had-the-slightest-idea-what-crime-trump-is-supposed-to-have-committed
Survey Finds More People Would Support Impeachment If They Knew What Crime Trump Was Supposed To Have Committed

[MechAg94]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-s_XCabNbM&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=7EHJVBLY_to25vdV%3A6
Trump's Texas Rally vs Beto's "Rally Against Fear"

This could be edited to favor Trump.