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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #225 on: January 19, 2020, 03:48:11 AM »
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #226 on: January 19, 2020, 09:09:36 AM »
We're getting a bunch of counties declaring themselves 2A sanctuaries here in Ky now. Sending a message and getting a head start just in case the craziness starts here I suppose.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #227 on: January 19, 2020, 09:53:58 AM »
I never cared for using the leftist tactic of street demonstrations.

Hopefully my serious reservations about this event turn out to be unfounded.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #228 on: January 19, 2020, 02:03:42 PM »
Man, this Bill Kristol guy has just totally lost it. I seem to remember him as pretty far right, but Trump really broke him. He still claims to be right/Republican, but then he said this in response to Trump's tweet supporting protestors in VA:

How the *expletive deleted*ck is the 2nd not under direct attack in VA?

EDIT: And by the way, when was the last time a president openly supported pro 2nd Amendment protestors? Even if they claimed to be pro 2nd,  I don't recall the Bushes or Reagan giving encouragement to people fighting for their 2nd Amendment rights. Gotta give Trump kudos here.
I note that he assumes the 2nd amendment protesters will be violent mobs.  Except there is no precedent for that assumption. 

If Antifa was planning a protest, I wonder if he would say the same thing even though they have a well documented record of violence. 
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #229 on: January 19, 2020, 02:28:17 PM »
I note that he assumes the 2nd amendment protesters will be violent mobs.  Except there is no precedent for that assumption. 


Just having opinions that aren't in total lockstep with the latest leftest craze is considered an act of violence nowadays
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #230 on: January 19, 2020, 03:28:02 PM »
I'm affiliated with a 2A group in Ohio which is having some members go to VA.  They are reporting Intel that Antifa is going to be present. Seven bus loads, and have obtained clothing with the NRA logo on it.  The alleged plan is that the Antifa types will blend into the protest and respond violently to any opposition to the 2A gathering.  Then the 2A types will catch the blame.  They are encouraging members to carry medical gear and do first aid on anyone injured.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #231 on: January 19, 2020, 03:37:22 PM »
I'm affiliated with a 2A group in Ohio which is having some members go to VA.  They are reporting Intel that Antifa is going to be present. Seven bus loads, and have obtained clothing with the NRA logo on it.  The alleged plan is that the Antifa types will blend into the protest and respond violently to any opposition to the 2A gathering.  Then the 2A types will catch the blame.  They are encouraging members to carry medical gear and do first aid on anyone injured.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #232 on: January 19, 2020, 04:34:01 PM »
VA state senator Amanda Chase warns that VCDL and other pro-2A groups are being set up:

https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/posts/2840596102672514

I know nothing about her.  Any VA residents care to comment?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #233 on: January 19, 2020, 07:17:10 PM »
Tomorrow we shall see if there is a big enough fan in Virginia to handle all the *expletive deleted*it headed its way.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #234 on: January 19, 2020, 07:48:57 PM »
https://youtu.be/6wBp2VusRhE

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #235 on: January 19, 2020, 07:57:41 PM »
Surely we won't let Antifa or the Left decide whether or not we can assemble.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #236 on: January 19, 2020, 08:14:20 PM »
Surely we won't let Antifa or the Left decide whether or not we can assemble.

This choice of location is for all intents and purposes enemy territory.

Marching into a fenced off holding pen while voluntarily being disarmed to demonstrate how free you are isn't very inspiring.

It's playing on the enemies playing field by the enemies rules emulating the enemies tactics. It works for them because they own the state and media.



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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #237 on: January 19, 2020, 08:31:33 PM »
Surely we won't let Antifa or the Left decide whether or not we can assemble.

How can you say "we" if you are not going to be at the demonstration?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #238 on: January 19, 2020, 08:51:08 PM »
I'm expecting images showing Nazi flags and hearing interviews with White Nationalists.

That's the best case scenario with no violence.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #239 on: January 19, 2020, 08:59:23 PM »
I hope I'm just being overly pessimistic but I don't think the leftists will leave such a thing to chance, too good of an opportunity to strengthen their narrative, never let a crisis go to waste.
 
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #240 on: January 19, 2020, 09:12:08 PM »
When I was in VA and in the VCDL, I went to Lobby Day several years. They do it regularly with hundreds, if not more, showing up to support them and to lobby their representatives. In my time there, there was NEVER a single incidence of any kind of issue and MOST of us were armed, either openly or concealed, all HAND guns, no long guns. We were peaceful, respectful and calm.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #241 on: January 19, 2020, 10:02:31 PM »
This isn't a lobby day.

This is an event with potential national repurcussions that the of the eye of Sauron is singularly focused upon.

There are people with competing agendas from all across the country showing up for the party.

The fact the Dems are pressing forward so hard despite the pushback tells me they have game planned this out.

Meanwhile our side appears to be walking into a well crafted lose/lose debacle.

Hopefully, I also am too cynical and pessimistic and things actually go well.



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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #242 on: January 19, 2020, 10:14:17 PM »
How can you say "we" if you are not going to be at the demonstration?

I find it interesting that you go  out of your way to dissociate yourself with the obvious 2A struggle in VA that will have national implications.  Think it can't happen in merry olde Iowa?
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #243 on: January 19, 2020, 11:20:02 PM »
This isn't a lobby day.

This is an event with potential national repurcussions that the of the eye of Sauron is singularly focused upon.

There are people with competing agendas from all across the country showing up for the party.

The fact the Dems are pressing forward so hard despite the pushback tells me they have game planned this out.

Meanwhile our side appears to be walking into a well crafted lose/lose debacle.

Hopefully, I also am too cynical and pessimistic and things actually go well.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_lN7H1bFKY
Mrgunsngear has some footage of the fencing and area.  

A few different people I heard online some were not planning to go into the "free speech zone" where they had to be disarmed.  I guess we will see how many show up.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #244 on: January 20, 2020, 12:46:59 AM »
How can you say "we" if you are not going to be at the demonstration?

Who told you I wasn't going?

"We" meaning pro-Americans, as opposed to the Left. If they have the heckler's veto in Richmond, they may have it elsewhere.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #245 on: January 20, 2020, 01:35:41 AM »
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/vcdl-lobby-day-rally-crowd-size-will-be-limited-but-authorities-arent-saying-by-how-much/

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/virginia-governor-starts-labeling-veterans-domestic-terror-threat-ahead-of-2a-rally/

Virginia VCDL Lobby Day Eve UPDATE
https://youtu.be/uiIDX02cMZQ

The Virginia State Capitol Grounds Fortifications; What Visitors Can Expect
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A lot to unpack...
I believe some of her information is wrong concerning where guns are allowed and not allowed although I trust this govt. as much as I trust Hillery/Gas Station Sushi.
She is doing a good job of shooing conservatives away from the event. Who would THAT benefit?
She is dissuading people from coming as they *supposedly* won't be able to park/leave the area.
She is saying there is only one exit from the protest area when there is one ENTRANCE, with many metal detectors but MULTIPLE EXITS.
There was more but my head hurts from all this BS. and I'm done for a bit.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #246 on: January 20, 2020, 02:26:58 AM »
I find it interesting that you go  out of your way to dissociate yourself with the obvious 2A struggle in VA that will have national implications.  Think it can't happen in merry olde Iowa?

We means we/I are going to be physically in the demonstration in Richmond, VA. Anything else is arch chair quarterbacking.

Yes, it could happen in merry olde Iowa, difference between me and the other lasses, I would show up in Des Moines. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. Why Iowa has one of the best carry laws.
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #247 on: January 20, 2020, 02:28:04 AM »
Who told you I wasn't going?

"We" meaning pro-Americans, as opposed to the Left. If they have the heckler's veto in Richmond, they may have it elsewhere.

Post a pic of you tomorrow in Richmond, otherwise piss off.

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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #248 on: January 20, 2020, 02:32:56 AM »
Well, that escalated quickly...
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Re: Welp, Virginia is screwed
« Reply #249 on: January 20, 2020, 02:35:14 AM »
Interesting quote in the article Herohog posted:

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The Richmond-based Antifa Seven Hills is joining the Second Amendment supporter groups in support of gun rights.


“I think it’s been pretty important for us to focus on the fact that gun control in America has a legacy of racist enforcement,” said Seven Hills spokesperson James in speaking to Vice, while asking that his last name be withheld. “Like taking guns away from black people, because black people were perceived as a threat to property and the sanctity of the state.”

He continued, “I think what’s particular about the South is that we have to be a bit more creative and sensitive to the people around us—instead of fulfilling some sort of meme of what antifa is,” James said. “That’s really what we’re trying to work against right now, especially by talking to conservatives and showing we aren’t just a black-clad group of rabble-rousers who are out for attention and have jobs funded by George Soros.”

Probably pretty optimistic, but how hilarious would it be to watch MSNBC and CNN report on a crown of NRA members, Antifa, and Black Panthers all standing next to each other agreeing on gun rights?


The commies generally should FOADIAF, but if they show up to protest the laws (as they SHOULD because they will be targeted as well) it would behoove everyone to just try and get along for a day.