Author Topic: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!  (Read 5239 times)

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Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« on: November 06, 2019, 10:28:07 AM »
Another wacko gun grabber idea: Force ammo manufacturers to make ammo that won't fit in any current gun.  ;/

https://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-berler-ammunition-20191105-bmfxmme6qzhe3horcsnc7mbufy-story.html
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 10:38:46 AM »
Well, seeing he doesn't seem to have any real world life experiences outside of a liberal sphere (as far as I can tell) do you expect Nobel prize worthy ideas?  =|

https://www.ronberlerbooks.com/about-the-author/


As often happens he can only see the end result he hopes for, the rendering useless of guns. Did he give any thought to the people rendered jobless, the companies going out of business or the ability of people to "roll their own"?

What a maroon!

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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2019, 10:43:23 AM »
Well, seeing he doesn't seem to have any real world life experiences outside of a liberal sphere (as far as I can tell) do you expect Nobel prize worthy ideas?  =|

https://www.ronberlerbooks.com/about-the-author/


As often happens he can only see the end result he hopes for, the rendering useless of guns. Did he give any thought to the people rendered jobless, the companies going out of business or the ability of people to "roll their own"?

What a maroon!

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The thing is, I bet this guy thinks it's just an absolutely brilliant idea, like he was sitting in his barcolounger and the thought bubble light bulb popped up putting out 1000 watts.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 10:44:32 AM »
As our absent friend CSD would have said:  That article is Factually Challenged.

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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 10:45:02 AM »
What? He's not proposing a new tax? Isn't that how problems in society are conclusively solved, through new taxes? I mean, it worked so well in eliminating poverty...
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2019, 10:45:46 AM »
Have we tried taxing poverty....?

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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2019, 11:26:06 AM »
I’m afraid we have to admit we’ve been beaten on this one, guys. I mean, look at the second amendment. It specifically says it applies only to firearms themselves, and not to the ammunition they use.

Plus, the gun industry only has a National Rifle Association. They totally forgot about forming a National Boolit Association to protect their death-murder-cop-killer boolits.

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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2019, 11:42:48 AM »
No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions of dollars later and... poverty is winning.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2019, 11:45:03 AM »
Never seen bullet casting or reloading machines, has he?

Don't tell him about the 12ga conversion sleeves that allow you to shoot .22 and .38sp through a shotgun, or even a flare gun.

Or "Navy" Garands, that had a plug shoved into the chamber shoulder that permanently converted them from .30-06 to 7.62x51.

Adapting a .355, .400, .429 or .451 diameter firearm bore and chamber for a new cartridge is just a matter of a drop-in barrel in many cases.  .400 Cor-bon?  All those Glock 23's that were sold in .40 but are shooting 9mm now thanks to aftermarket barrels?
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2019, 12:20:18 PM »
No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions of dollars later and... poverty is winning.

Because it never was about defeating poverty, it was about creating a large class of people completely depended on the government and thus controllable. Don't forget this also includes the large number of people in govt who work in welfare programs
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2019, 12:22:17 PM »
Of course he's from Connecticut. Look at who represents Connecticut in Washington to get a sense of the mentality.

It must be something in the water.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2019, 12:27:13 PM »
Because it never was about defeating poverty, it was about creating a large class of people completely depended on the government and thus controllable. Don't forget this also includes the large number of people in govt who work in welfare programs


Dammit shut your mouth! Everyone knows that, but they're not crass enough to SAY that... Geesh!
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2019, 01:02:36 PM »
It's the same sort of "reasoning" as the CO2 solution is to build cars that run on unicorn farts.  It's the perfect answer, unless you want to drive a car.  The only difference is they actually go places in cars but can't imagine a legitimate use for a gun except by the government.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 01:30:35 PM »
Or "Navy" Garands, that had a plug shoved into the chamber shoulder that permanently converted them from .30-06 to 7.62x51.

Thread drift: that conversion wasn't entirely permanent.  The plug is known to sometimes eject along with the spent case, converting the M1 back to .30-06 (oftentimes without the shooter's knowledge).

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All those Glock 23's that were sold in .40 but are shooting 9mm now thanks to aftermarket barrels?

Yup.  Got one of those 9x19 conversion barrels in a Springfield XD40.  Runs great.  I can even use the XD40 magazines.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2019, 02:36:32 PM »
Sweet! I'm going to get the .46 that I always wanted!
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2019, 03:20:52 PM »
Thread drift: that conversion wasn't entirely permanent.  The plug is known to sometimes eject along with the spent case, converting the M1 back to .30-06 (oftentimes without the shooter's knowledge).

That seems unhealthy.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2019, 03:51:30 PM »
That seems unhealthy.

It's the Navy.  They do a lot of unhealthy things.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2019, 03:58:42 PM »
That seems unhealthy.

Fun fact... .308s will fire just fine in a 30-06 chamber, not sure about what kind of velocity they get though.
I've seen it a few times.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2019, 04:19:22 PM »
I guess this guy has never heard of replacement barrels or resizing barrels.  He doesn't realize how long ammo can be stored.  


He also doesn't appreciate the creativity of gun owners and makers.  If they outlawed 45 ACP, there would soon be a new caliber called 45 EDKH (Epstein Didn't Kill Himself) that would be one or two mils difference in diameter and a few pounds different in case pressure and still work in 45 ACP barrels.  
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2019, 04:28:29 PM »
Why do you carry a .45?

Because they don't make a .46!

Just think how many years and millions of pages of internet would have to be searched so that old joke could be scrubbed and replaced with the new improved version.

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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2019, 04:39:20 PM »
I guess this guy has never heard of replacement barrels or resizing barrels.  He doesn't realize how long ammo can be stored.  


He also doesn't appreciate the creativity of gun owners and makers.  If they outlawed 45 ACP, there would soon be a new caliber called 45 EDKH (Epstein Didn't Kill Himself) that would be one or two mils difference in diameter and a few pounds different in case pressure and still work in 45 ACP barrels.  

45 GAP is kind of close to that idea
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2019, 04:39:38 PM »
Don't worry, they would likely forget about 50 GI and we could just buy conversion barrels.  
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2019, 04:41:08 PM »
And do they know that 38 is not actually 38?
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2019, 04:44:16 PM »
Can you imagine a gun grabber who knows little about guns trying to make sense of the long and detailed history of calibers to include all the historical calibers, modern calibers, wildcats, etc, etc.  Their heads would explode before they got through it.  

I always thought the bullet control argument was more of a joke than anything realistic.
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Re: Come Get Your .21, .37, and .43 Caliber Ammo Here!
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2019, 04:45:38 PM »
And do they know that 38 is not actually 38?
Probably not.  They would think the new 358 MDK (Murder/Death/Kill) was actually new.
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