Top Iranian general assassinated in Iraq

[K Frame]

"Did they say anything useful and/or interesting?"

You think I actually watched that *expletive deleted*it festival?

But, to answer your question tangentially, have they ever once said anything useful or interesting?

Every day I'm reminded more and more just how much I HATE the left.

[Angel Eyes]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukrainian-airplane-shot-down-by-mistake-by-iranian-anti-aircraft-missile-pentagon-officials-believe

Oops.

[dogmush]

There's pictures posted on twitter of a SA-15 seeker head found on the ground near the crash site.  Looks like someone was a little jumpy that night.

https://twitter.com/airplusnews_EN/status/1214979183845289984

[Hawkmoon]

But Iran has stated categorically that it wasn't missile, so ...

[bedlamite]

How many witnesses were on that plane that could testify against Hunter and Joe ... 

[BobR]

When are they going to start building these airplanes so they can take a little missile?

First the Airbus 300 that was shot down over the Gulf by the USS Vincennes, then the 777 knocked out of the sky over Ukraine and now a 737. I will give Airbus a pass because that was a mighty American missile but Boeing, really, not even hardened up enough to take a little Rooskie missile, they need to step up their game and harden up those passenger planes a bit.


bob

[makattak]

I guess there were casualties from the Iranian Missile attack Tuesday night.

Those casualties were: 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians, 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three Germans and three Britons.   

[BobR]

My biggest question is who thinks it is a good thing to allow civil aviation to fly around an area where missiles are being shot. I would think someone would think about suspending flight ops until daylight or sometime well after missiles have stopped flying over international boundaries. But hey, that is just me.


bob

[MechAg94]

When are they going to start building these airplanes so they can take a little missile?

First the Airbus 300 that was shot down over the Gulf by the USS Vincennes, then the 777 knocked out of the sky over Ukraine and now a 737. I will give Airbus a pass because that was a mighty American missile but Boeing, really, not even hardened up enough to take a little Rooskie missile, they need to step up their game and harden up those passenger planes a bit.


bob

If you are going back a ways, include that US airliner shot down in the North Pacific near Russia in the 80's.

[BobR]

If you are going back a ways, include that US airliner shot down in the North Pacific near Russia in the 80's.

You are right about that but that was an air to air encounter as was the Soviet shoot down of another KAL flight in 1978. I guess the Koreans didn't learn from the 1978 one. 


bob

[MillCreek]

US satellites apparently picked up the launch of two ground to air missiles in the area shortly before the plane crashed. 

[French G.]

My biggest question is who thinks it is a good thing to allow civil aviation to fly around an area where missiles are being shot. I would think someone would think about suspending flight ops until daylight or sometime well after missiles have stopped flying over international boundaries. But hey, that is just me.


bob

Was pretty far away from launch areas being in Tehran. The real cynic in me wonders if it was a Putin sized finger to the Ukrainians. Reality is that once you kicked the hornet's nest every shadow in your air defense system is a shadow from Whiteman, Missouri.

[Andiron]

Was pretty far away from launch areas being in Tehran. The real cynic in me wonders if it was a Putin sized finger to the Ukrainians. Reality is that once you kicked the hornet's nest every shadow in your air defense system is a shadow from Whiteman, Missouri.

They expected retaliation and got trigger happy.

[BobR]

The way I understand the TOR is it can be run manually or automatically and I would think every one would prefer to let it do its thing. Much more accurate and much much faster than a human trying to engage multiple or single targets. I do believe this was an accident, they were fired up awaiting the incoming to crater the runway and someone forgot to turn one of them off. It saw a return in its target sector and said "Oh look, a target, time to go to work", and it does.

bob

[fifth_column]

Even Trudi doesn't think this was equipment failure:

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2020/01/09/canada-accuses-iran-of-downing-a-plane-in-tehran-killing-176?cid1=cust/dailypicks1/n/bl/n/2020019n/owned/n/n/dailypicks1/n/n/NA/375620/n

[Ben]

Interesting. I'd like to see it verified, but it sounds legit:

GregGutfeld
✔
@greggutfeld

"Love or hate him, Trump has used military force less than any other president since Jimmy Carter." -- today's Times.

(which is why when he uses force, critics need to latch onto it and hysterically amplify it - because it's rare).

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/01/10/reality-checks-incoming-greg-gutfeld-brit-hume-truth-nuke-dem-attempts-to-make-trump-look-like-a-warmonger/

[Perd Hapley]

Cruz apparently took a Senate resolution from 2011, commending the military (including their commander-in-chief) for taking out OBL, and edited into a resolution commending the strike on that dead Iranian sucker. No Democrats would sign on.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/10/not-one-senate-democrat-joins-resolution-commending-u-s-military-for-soleimanis-death/

With the support of 42 other GOP senators, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas introduced a resolution yesterday afternoon to commend the president for ordering “successful operations” in Iranian terrorist Qassam Soleimani’s death and to honor the members of U.S. military and intelligence agencies who aided in the targeted killing of “a terrorist responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people across the Middle East, including 603 US service members....”

Cruz’s resolution is deliberately modeled after the language used in Reid’s resolution. Indeed, a side-by-side comparison of S. Resolution 159 and Cruz’s Soleimani resolution indicates that the main method for penning Cruz’s resolution was substituting words, swapping the crimes of bin Laden for the crimes of Soleimani and subbing Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) for al-Qaeda.

I know a resolution is just symbolic, but what this symbolizes is rather disturbing.

[Perd Hapley]

Whiteman, Missouri.

Is that as racist as White Settlement, Texas?

[WLJ]

Someone needs to name a town Orangeman

[Boomhauer]

I told my wife yesterday that if it was Trump who had been president during the Bin Laden raid the democrats would be over the top apologizing for it

[Perd Hapley]

Someone needs to name a town Orangeman

 

[charby]

Someone needs to name a town Orangeman

https://theculturetrip.com/europe/united-kingdom/northern-ireland/articles/who-are-the-orangemen-and-what-is-the-orange-order/

[Angel Eyes]

Old joke I heard:   "Donald Trump confuses the people of Northern Ireland because he's both a republican and an orange man."

[MillCreek]

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795480690/iran-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner-killing-176-people?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&fbclid=IwAR180pnWnptBSlEm_O88hzggU4ZZS4zb71bBZiTwBkrbEJB0gg2-Fll4wS0&fbclid=IwAR06de0cg3YOTSOlPk8PE97JACq2THUygbaAczBBXO16BQabEOxIKPSV_aw

Iran admits they unintentionally shot down the Ukrainian 737.  I bet Bob is right, and someone flipped the Master Fire Control switch from 'manual' to 'auto'.

[cordex]

I am actually impressed that they admitted it as opposed to continuing with their denials. Yeah, they still blamed the US for it, but still.