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SHOT Show 2020
« on: January 21, 2020, 10:49:03 AM »
Find something interesting from SHOT?  Or something so stupid that we all need to see it?  This is the place.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7kEavvBWsC/?hl=en
This first one is from Amend2.  It is a Sig grip housing that fits 320 slides, but lets you use 365 mags.  Basically, it makes your double stack 320 into a single stack.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJwkgnKIo/?hl=en
Springfield Armory take-down micro AR.

There are several companies making Glock copies.  I guess the patent expired.  Shadow Systems 920, Adams Arms, and another I can't remember.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7litZ9hJAd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Diamond Arms folding rifle in 5.7 that uses FN 5.7 mags.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jmA8gBQli/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Keltec Sub2000, integrally suppressed, folding rifle.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 10:54:44 AM »
That micro-AR looks kinda cool. I'll be curious on price and calibers.

I just saw a Shadow Systems at Cabela's the other day and was thinking WTF is that? I'd not heard of them before, but here they were being sold at a chain store.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 11:38:14 AM »
Find something interesting from SHOT?  Or something so stupid that we all need to see it?  This is the place.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7kEavvBWsC/?hl=en
This first one is from Amend2.  It is a Sig grip housing that fits 320 slides, but lets you use 365 mags.  Basically, it makes your double stack 320 into a single stack.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJwkgnKIo/?hl=en
Springfield Armory take-down micro AR.

There are several companies making Glock copies.  I guess the patent expired.  Shadow Systems 920, Adams Arms, and another I can't remember.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7litZ9hJAd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Diamond Arms folding rifle in 5.7 that uses FN 5.7 mags.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jmA8gBQli/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Keltec Sub2000, integrally suppressed, folding rifle.

https://www.taurususa.com/firearms/revolvers/taurus-defender-856/.  3" night sight version of their 6 shot .38 snubby.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2020, 04:32:43 PM »
New/improved roller-locked 9mm pistol/carbine.  Think updated MP5.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7oO0HcHEAd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Vortex 1-10 optic.  Looks awesome.  I preordered one.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7n09f2lY49/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2020, 04:45:17 PM »
Interesting to me is PSA's 299$ Not-a-Glock that takes Glock magazines, several things like the trigger group are compatible with aftermarket Glock accessories, and includes some of the things we'd love to see on a Glock (metal sights, standard rifling, mag well cut outs and undercut trigger guard, etc. 

In short if the parts that matter are truly compatible, it runs reliably, it rides well in a Glock holster, etc? And PSA gets the thing out the door for 299$ (and talked of additional models such as RMR and suppressor ready are likewise well priced)? Unless you're just not a fan of Glocks I'm failing to see a downside to buying this over a Glock, assuming of course the thing delivers.

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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2020, 04:50:58 PM »
(No photos, but some info stolen from a thread on Calguns)

Palmetto State Armory is coming out with a slew of AKs:

PSAK-47 GF3 = forged parts + CHF nitride barrel

AK-P = pistol version of PSAK-47 GF3

PSAK-47 GF4 = forged parts + PSA CHF chrome lined barrel

AK-103 "standard" = forged parts + PSA CHF chrome lined barrel

AK-103 "premium" = forged parts + FN CHF chrome lined barrel

PSAK-E = forged parts + forged NiB bolt/bolt carrier + FN CHF chrome lined barrel + ALG AKT trigger

PSAK-47 GF3 "spiker" = forged parts + CHF nitride barrel + (blonde) wood stock set + underfolding spike bayonet

PSAK-74 = forged parts + CHF nitride barrel (5.45x39mm)

PSAK-556 = forged parts + stamped RPK receiver + CHF nitride barrel (5.56x45mm) + STANAG magazine well

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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2020, 10:33:13 AM »
Did they have a PSAK-74 prototype at Shot Show?  I know they have talked about that coming down the pipeline.  

They did have a prototype of the PA5 (MP5 clone).  They said it would be out in 2020.  There was also an AR-V 9mm carbine out.  
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2020, 11:01:51 AM »
Find something interesting from SHOT?  Or something so stupid that we all need to see it?  This is the place.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7kEavvBWsC/?hl=en
This first one is from Amend2.  It is a Sig grip housing that fits 320 slides, but lets you use 365 mags.  Basically, it makes your double stack 320 into a single stack.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jJwkgnKIo/?hl=en
Springfield Armory take-down micro AR.

There are several companies making Glock copies.  I guess the patent expired.  Shadow Systems 920, Adams Arms, and another I can't remember.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7litZ9hJAd/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Diamond Arms folding rifle in 5.7 that uses FN 5.7 mags.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jmA8gBQli/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Keltec Sub2000, integrally suppressed, folding rifle.
That Sub2000 has my interest.  An integrally suppressed 9mm sub-gun with an MSRP of $1000.  Not much more than buying a larger 9mm suppressor.  They said they hope for 2nd quarter or summer availability. 

The Diamondback 5.7x28 carbine looks like a really lightweight little carbine to backpack or carry around for varmints.  They said it was 3.5 lbs.  I will have to watch the reviews later to see how it does in the wild.  

And I am not sure why I care, but the SA Saint folding AR looks interesting simply due to the compact size is breaks down to.  I can't see buying one, but it is still interesting. 
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2020, 03:26:49 PM »
So I guess Sig has this new XFive Legion at the show, and I read the headline to this article: "Sig Sauer’s New XFive Legion Pistol Is Designed for Lightest Possible Recoil" and I'm thinking, "What did they do? Something with the gas system, or some other internal components, or what?"

No, they just gave it the weight of a 1911.  :laugh:

One of the first things I did when I moved to Idaho was buy the lightweight 1911 for carry that I couldn't have in CA. But I guess I'm behind the times again, and heavy is in.  =D

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/23/sig-sauers-new-xfive-legion-pistol-designed-lightest-possible-recoil.html
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2020, 04:05:10 PM »

One of the first things I did when I moved to Idaho was buy the lightweight 1911 for carry that I couldn't have in CA. But I guess I'm behind the times again, and heavy is in.  =D


Heavy is in with the gamers, who pay a premium to shave a fraction of a tenth of a second off their shot split times. In the real world, most people who carry a firearm are happy to have a few ounces less on their belt.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2020, 05:44:13 PM »
So I guess Sig has this new XFive Legion at the show, and I read the headline to this article: "Sig Sauer’s New XFive Legion Pistol Is Designed for Lightest Possible Recoil" and I'm thinking, "What did they do? Something with the gas system, or some other internal components, or what?"

No, they just gave it the weight of a 1911.  :laugh:

One of the first things I did when I moved to Idaho was buy the lightweight 1911 for carry that I couldn't have in CA. But I guess I'm behind the times again, and heavy is in.  =D

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/23/sig-sauers-new-xfive-legion-pistol-designed-lightest-possible-recoil.html

Sig has had the Legion line out for a few years now.  The X5 must be their latest gun to get the treatment.  You're right, though, all they do is add weight and maybe make it optics ready.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2020, 07:04:16 PM »
I have handled one of the competition Legion pistols at a gun show and that one was not heavy.  It was about the same as the standard P320.  I figure it would make a good shooter if I wanted it, but it was a large pistol for either competition or as a range toy.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2020, 07:11:04 PM »
Palmetto State Armory sure seems to be expanding into a major firearms manufacturer.  Their AR-15 rifles have gotten cheaper and better quality (for reliability at least).  They have expanded into AK's and 9mm carbines in 2019.  Now, they will be putting out better AK's in multiple calibers, 9mm AR carbines, a $299 9mm Glock clone, and an MP5 clone and all made in the US and supposed to come out in 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvKuuARoZR4
That 5.45 Krinkov clone looks sweet.  About 6 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI5O4kwX2tU
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2020, 07:32:39 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay4PtDr4aNw
A different look at some of PSA's stuff.

This one shows a piston 5.56/300BO rifle with a monolithic upper.  Scheduled for 2020 also.  Interesting.
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2020, 08:28:31 PM »
This is just cool. Not practical, but still fun.  Liberator 12K 3D printed 12 gauge revolver shotgun.  [ar15]
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7rlJe2BTmG/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Need a Gatlin gun?  Of course you do.  But to be practical, get it in 9mm. And it uses Glock mags!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7rgCHyBlsc/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
You need this video.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxNqvJ5nLO6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Zenith firearms is known for the MP5 clones.  Now they are doing custom precision rifles.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7q9piwlBb1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2020, 08:39:20 PM »
The latest in range finders is adding in doppler wind readings.  It has been a big task to get small, hand-held doppler wind readers, but Trijicon has one.  500 yard range on wind. 5,000yds for ranging.
https://www.trijicon.com/products/category/trijicon-ventus

Larue is doing a package deal bolt gun.  .308 pistol and 20 inch 6.5CM.  Easily converted.  Didn't see a price.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7rKdYChHNL/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2020, 08:46:30 PM »
Laugo Arms Czechoslovakia (their name) is finally bringing the ultra cool Alien pistol to the US.  You can't afford it, but you're welcome to look.  $5,000.
http://www.laugoarms.com/alien.html

You can afford this.  Modern version of the Liberator pistol. 9mm short or Nato.  $129.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7q_Wm2nJhM/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Another Glock copy.  This time in an 80% frame build kit.  Looks nice.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7q2Qudn8gh/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2020, 08:49:57 PM »
Do you feel lucky, punk?  Did I fire 30 shots or only 29?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7q8vTFhc-H/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Sig is making another precision rifle.  Entry level, judging by the price of $1,500.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7q6UbRhUjH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2020, 08:53:13 PM »
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2020, 09:09:04 PM »
That Sub2000 has my interest.  An integrally suppressed 9mm sub-gun with an MSRP of $1000.  Not much more than buying a larger 9mm suppressor.  They said they hope for 2nd quarter or summer availability.

Video review of the Sub2000.  Also reviews their .22 pistol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWGJa-SMYK4
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2020, 09:20:55 PM »
ARFCOM has a bunch of videos on new products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ar15com/videos
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 09:35:53 AM »
Brownells has an AR lower designed to match up with their BRN-180 upper with picatinny rail stock adapter instead of buffer tube threads.  I saw it on their site for only $150.  Cheaper than buying stock adapters and I can use the stock adapter I have on something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SuKKlM_I3c
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Re: SHOT Show 2020
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2020, 10:05:41 AM »
Brownells has an AR lower designed to match up with their BRN-180 upper with picatinny rail stock adapter instead of buffer tube threads.  I saw it on their site for only $150.  Cheaper than buying stock adapters and I can use the stock adapter I have on something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SuKKlM_I3c


I wonder how hard it would be to get a 10.5"-12" barrel to work with tat piston system.  That'd be kinda neat in pistol form with a side-folding brace.