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« on: February 14, 2020, 03:10:57 PM »

Found this on Reddit.  Good video of planes taking off and landing in a nasty windy mess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/f3taeq/the_effect_storm_ciara_had_on_aircraft_over_the/
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« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 03:43:33 PM »

Looks fun.
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« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 05:35:24 PM »

Question for Fly320s: Just a few days ago I watched one of Juan Brown's videos on the Blancolirio Channel. He was talking about crosswind landings, and he said the trick is to crab in until the point/moment of flare, and then straighten the plane out in line with the runway for touchdown to avoid damage to the undercarriage. It looked to me like all the pilots in this video actually landed askew, and then straightened out as the nosewheel settled onto the runway.

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« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 05:57:22 PM »

Impressive. 

Is it the angle or should that runway be leveled out a bit more?
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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 07:11:48 PM »

Impressive. 

Is it the angle or should that runway be leveled out a bit more?

We used to land on old runways in England that looked like roller coasters, they still worked fine though. Wink

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 07:30:23 PM »

Impressive. 

Is it the angle or should that runway be leveled out a bit more?

I think it's the depth of field. The videographer is shooting with an extreme telephoto lens, and that messes with perspective quite a bit.
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« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2020, 04:13:34 AM »

Question for Fly320s: Just a few days ago I watched one of Juan Brown's videos on the Blancolirio Channel. He was talking about crosswind landings, and he said the trick is to crab in until the point/moment of flare, and then straighten the plane out in line with the runway for touchdown to avoid damage to the undercarriage. It looked to me like all the pilots in this video actually landed askew, and then straightened out as the nosewheel settled onto the runway.

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Brown is right.  That is the proper technique for most planes, though some planes can handle a little bit of crab on landing.  Boeing's landing gear has some amount of castor in them.  They crab pretty good on landing. The B52 has steerable main gear, so it can land in a full crab, because it can't really do a slip because of the long wings.  My Airbus 320 does not like to land in a crab.
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« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2020, 10:27:30 AM »

I read that a 747 broke a new record for its type across the Atlantic, flying from JFK to Heathrow, reaching +800mph average speed thanks tl having favorable winds.
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« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2020, 12:27:23 PM »

I read that a 747 broke a new record for its type across the Atlantic, flying from JFK to Heathrow, reaching +800mph average speed thanks tl having favorable winds.

Yeah, strong jetstream.  That shouldn't count, in my opinion.
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 03:32:13 PM »

I read that a 747 broke a new record for its type across the Atlantic, flying from JFK to Heathrow, reaching +800mph average speed thanks tl having favorable winds.

But they don't tell you about the one going the other way that set the longest transit record from Heathrow to JFK. There is always a flip side! Wink

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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 03:38:57 PM »

Yes, that jetsream was blowing 200 to 250 MPH. That's quite a hit in a plane that cruises at 500 to 550.
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