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« on: February 16, 2020, 01:58:55 PM »

So, is anyone actually taking any action? Either against the virus or against possible government quarantine action, or supply chain disruption?

A guy I know who uses lots of dust masks said his usual sources are out, and prices are going up on eBay.

Is there any reason to anticipate food shortages, either legitimate or caused by irrational hoarding or rationing?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 04:08:43 PM »

I had to take my wife to the ER last night.  (Thatĺs another story.). Of five staff in the ER, they all had on masks until my wife confirmed that she hadnĺt been in China recently.  After that, all but one removed his/her mask.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 04:13:07 PM »

Glad to be in the country. I have no immune system so I stay away from people.

As far as food goes I can walk to the pit and fish or grab a rifle and hunt.

Hank thought me just how to stay alive.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 05:10:27 PM »

I'm heading yo Costco tomorrow.

Getting rice and beans.

Probably pick up a bunch of pasta and sauce.

I'll use it all eventually so it won't go to waste.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 06:03:05 PM »

I picked a half gallon of whisky.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 06:04:06 PM »

I picked a half gallon of whisky.

A fine dual purpose disinfectant,  good thinking.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 06:10:41 PM »

I picked a half gallon of whisky.

Here I thought I was fine with the couple months of food we keep on hand, but I've only got 1 shot of Maker's Mark left!

I hang my head in shame.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 06:28:24 PM »

Beans, rice, canned chicken, cooking oil, n95 masks, gloves, antiseptic lotion and wipes, multivitamins...

Im not sure any if it is going to do much good tbh, we have school aged kids, and I works in a place that draws workers from hundreds of sq miles.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 06:56:35 PM »

What about markets? Aside from the general "panic and uncertainty" sell-offs, are there any commodities or stock sectors which might take a hit? Will this, assuming it gets worse that is, boost the healthcare sectors or tank them?
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2020, 07:11:59 PM »

How much daily food stuff do we as a country actually get from China?
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2020, 07:20:52 PM »

How much daily food stuff do we as a country actually get from China?

Don't know the numbers right offhand, but I'm certain it's nearly 0.

It's not the importaion of food to possibly be worried about, but the disruption of life from quarantines from the importation of the virus.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2020, 07:38:54 PM »

Gotcha.

The reason I ask. My wife works in a  high end lamp shop. The lamp suppliers are stating that the disruption in China is significant. The outbreak coincided with the Chinese New Year. Quarantines are causing shut down of plants.  This I can understand.

The suppliers were discussing the horrible disruption of supplies and were including drugs and food.

Iĺm thinking the drugs and food were hyperbolic exaggerations.

Most generics are made in India at least thatĺs my understanding.
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2020, 07:57:05 PM »

https://theskepticalcardiologist.com/2018/07/29/is-your-generic-medication-made-in-china-and-is-it-safe/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-manufacturing-of-most-us-medicine-and-vitamins-poses-security-threat-researchers-say_2497862.html
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2020, 08:16:46 PM »

Most generics are made in India at least thatĺs my understanding.

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=61772.msg1242208#msg1242208
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2020, 05:21:13 AM »

I would say that you prep the same way you do for most any other emergency/natural disaster - at least a couple of weeks of food available, water or ways to make potable water, fuel for a generator if you have one, batteries, cash, etc. All the stuff we usually recommend in a preparedness thread for hurricane, earthquake, etc.

The only thing I might add for this is masks (though most don't know how to wear them properly) and gloves if you have to interact with people, and ways to thoroughly "decontaminate" afterwards (and I'm actually not sure what proper methods are). This is assuming we are at China level vs where we are now.

If we were at China levels, I'd still be more worried about overblown panic runs on supplies (food, gasoline, etc.) than contracting the virus. YMMV depending on where you live.

The stock market is an interesting side discussion. We already had a small taste of market panic with a quick recovery. I would assume the same thing would happen, but with a longer market recovery time, if, again, we were at "China level". I would probably be an uncaring capitalist and throw money into any panic drops. I'm not sure if I would invest specifically in the health sector, unless it was some ETF or something. I think making money on an individual stock would be difficult. If you happened to guess right about who came up with the first cure, medication, or whatever, you could bring in some dough, but I don't like the odds of guessing right. I would rather invest in an overall market panic drop.

EDIT: Oh, regarding zahc's mask shortage comment, yeah, I wish I would have invested in masks. For kicks, I typed "coronavirus mask" into Amazon, and yeah, prices are up. I use these masks for general stuff:

https://www.amazon.com/3M-N95-Masks-Model-8210V/dp/B084D81PM7/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=coronavirus+mask&qid=1581945878&sr=8-19

I checked my past orders, and the last time I bought them, I paid $14 for 20 of them. Now $120 for ten. Holy hell.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2020, 06:17:32 AM »

I bought a box of 10 N95 masks last week for around $20.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2020, 06:33:44 AM »

I bought a box of 10 N95 masks last week for around $20.


I'm thinking Amazon sellers are taking advantage of people who don't know how to shop anywhere else. I did a little searching, and while some other online sellers are jacking up prices, they are still cheaper than Amazon. A quick look at Home Despot showed N95 masks available in-store at most of the local stores im my area in limited quantities, but at what appears to be regular pricing.

Also, not all N95 masks are created equal:

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/topics/respirators/disp_part/n95list1.html
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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2020, 09:24:02 AM »

I visited a friend in the hospital Friday. They had lots of free masks at the hand sanitizing "infection control" kiosk just inside the door.
(I grabbed a couple on my way out)
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2020, 09:36:33 AM »

If we go to defcon 5 mask level, you're going need to wear them 24/7 if you're around people and will need to change them often. Wash hands before and after removal.
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2020, 04:34:23 PM »

My wife picked up a case of Yuengling lager for me at Sam's Club today. I should be good to go.
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« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2020, 01:16:36 AM »

A: take good care if yourselves, emotionally and physically.
  1. If you donĺt exercise, start right now, if you do, up your efforts
  2. Avoid stress and anxiety- whatever comes is beyond your control, but be prepared.
  3. Get your servings of fruits and veggies in every day. Take your multivitamins. Iĺve been hearing chatter that D3 and K2 is supposedly particularly important.
B. Consider getting out of the markets and convert equities into cash or PMs ASAP. I missed the boat on Friday. I had already cashed out of my stocks in my IRAs and cash accounts over a week ago, i wish i would gave done the same for my 401k on Friday, but i procrastinated. You might want to buy some long term puts on the major index funds, if you have permission level on your accounts- donĺt go overboard, i wouldnt risk more than 2% on a position. Worst case scenario- youĺ ll thank me later when all of the sheep wake up and do the same, best case scenario, the market goes into a sliw decline ir goes flat, in which case you lose nothing anyway.
C. Avoid public places. The time to hunker down is coming up real fast. Work from home if you can. You might want to start considering whether your job is more important than your health or survival. There are likely thousands of undiagnosed cases in the US already, and there isnĺt much that can be done about it, .gov is trying to avoid causing a wide spread panic, which will happen anyway.


By all accounts, things are far worse than you are being told.
I donĺt want anyone to panic, I just really care about all of you curmudgeons and goofballs.

ETA: use your own intuition. You know in your gut that the situation in china is far worse than is being reported. WHO has been parroting the lies, as has the CDC- they are all shitting their pants.

From everything that ive filtered through so far, it almost looks like the WuFlu is like airborne super-AIDS, people arenĺt getting better from it, just going into remission after their body fights off the initial infection.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2020, 01:26:02 AM »

Iĺm not particularly scared,Iĺve had a good run, and am in the mode of doing the best to protect my family right now.
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2020, 05:54:16 AM »

Don't sugar coat it buddy 😉
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2020, 11:14:56 AM »

I would agree on eating healthy at least from a nutrition standpoint along with basic exercise for health.

I got a little more food.  Some rice and canned stuff and some of those red beans and rice mixes.  I might get more canned stuff later as I ended up throwing away some I had that was long expired. 

I wasn't thinking in terms of having cash on hand.  I will have to think about that.
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2020, 02:15:21 PM »

A: take good care if yourselves, emotionally and physically.
  1. If you donĺt exercise, start right now, if you do, up your efforts
  2. Avoid stress and anxiety- whatever comes is beyond your control, but be prepared.
  3. Get your servings of fruits and veggies in every day. Take your multivitamins. Iĺve been hearing chatter that D3 and K2 is supposedly particularly important.
B. Consider getting out of the markets and convert equities into cash or PMs ASAP. I missed the boat on Friday. I had already cashed out of my stocks in my IRAs and cash accounts over a week ago, i wish i would gave done the same for my 401k on Friday, but i procrastinated. You might want to buy some long term puts on the major index funds, if you have permission level on your accounts- donĺt go overboard, i wouldnt risk more than 2% on a position. Worst case scenario- youĺ ll thank me later when all of the sheep wake up and do the same, best case scenario, the market goes into a sliw decline ir goes flat, in which case you lose nothing anyway.
C. Avoid public places. The time to hunker down is coming up real fast. Work from home if you can. You might want to start considering whether your job is more important than your health or survival. There are likely thousands of undiagnosed cases in the US already, and there isnĺt much that can be done about it, .gov is trying to avoid causing a wide spread panic, which will happen anyway.


By all accounts, things are far worse than you are being told.
I donĺt want anyone to panic, I just really care about all of you curmudgeons and goofballs.

ETA: use your own intuition. You know in your gut that the situation in china is far worse than is being reported. WHO has been parroting the lies, as has the CDC- they are all shitting their pants.

From everything that ive filtered through so far, it almost looks like the WuFlu is like airborne super-AIDS, people arenĺt getting better from it, just going into remission after their body fights off the initial infection.

Other than "gut feeling" do you have any solid sources of info?

I'm all for preparing, but I don't want to waste my time/effort/money on nothing.
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