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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #225 on: February 29, 2020, 02:20:22 PM »
Interesting satellite imagery over China. SWAG with just the imagery and no data, but that looks like a pretty big delta and a big dropoff in movement and activity.

https://www.foxnews.com/science/china-cornvirus-coincides-plummet-nitrogen-dioxide

Many of the comments coming from both sides at the link makes me want to cry for our country
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #226 on: February 29, 2020, 02:29:10 PM »
^^^The Seattle-King County Health Department is holding a press conference at 4 pm to release more details.  I am guessing it was someone elderly or had pre-existing disease burdens, but it will be interesting to learn the details. 0

The news report I heard via radio indicated a 65 year old lady with pre-existing breathing problems. 

Statistically,  we were always guaranteed that we would never escape without some deaths.  People with weak or compromised immune systems are always more vulnerable to other, especially new, diseases.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #227 on: February 29, 2020, 02:32:38 PM »
Many of the comments coming from both sides at the link makes me want to cry for our country

I see no comments from any side at the link .... just a story about nitrogen levels over China .... ???
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #228 on: February 29, 2020, 02:40:07 PM »
Many of the comments coming from both sides at the link makes me want to cry for our country

Yeah, Fox News commenters, both left and right, are an interesting lot. Seems like you get the worst from both sides posting there.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #229 on: February 29, 2020, 02:50:12 PM »
JHFC

‘You’re proving him correct’! Dana Milbank’s claim that Trump called the coronavirus a ‘hoax’ melts BS detectors (ROLL TAPE)
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/29/youre-proving-him-correct-dana-milbanks-claim-that-trump-called-the-coronavirus-a-hoax-melts-bs-detectors-roll-tape/

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Talking point status: RECEIVED! Politico, NBC News, Bill Kristol, Rep. Ted Lieu & Joe Biden join those claiming Trump called coronavirus a ‘hoax’
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/29/talking-point-status-received-politico-nbc-news-bill-kristol-rep-ted-lieu-joe-biden-join-those-claiming-trump-called-coronavirus-a-hoax/
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #230 on: February 29, 2020, 03:21:46 PM »
It's not often you see the AP calls out the Democratic Party.

https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #231 on: February 29, 2020, 03:26:41 PM »
It's not often you see the AP calls out the Democratic Party.

https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104

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By LAURAN NEERGAARD and CALVIN WOODWARD

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #232 on: February 29, 2020, 04:13:56 PM »
Also:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/02/29/oof-journo-asks-trump-if-media-reports-are-true-that-hes-muzzling-the-niaid-director-the-doctors-response-is-another-msm-fail/

Man, Trump is going to win 2020 by such a landslide... and it will be 75% the dems and MSM's doing. They are the best campaign ads the guy could hope for.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #233 on: February 29, 2020, 06:37:37 PM »
Grocery store was crazy today. I went to Aldi's to pick up canned veggies and fruit balance out the pantry. People were buying cases of shelf stable food. Not sure if was the first of the month welfare check run or people were actually stockpiling food.

I can pretty much quarantine in for over a month now after the last couple days of shopping.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #234 on: March 01, 2020, 07:18:52 AM »
I went to the grocery yesterday morning. It was 9 o'clock on a Saturday, the regular crowd shuffled in. There was an old man shopping next to me, looking for lemons and gin...

Billy Joel aside, it was a regular Saturday late morning at the local Giant.

I'm going to hit up WalMart this morning for some more things. I want to get another chunk of chuck, as I'm making borscht today and I don't have quite enough. Also thinking about getting some frozen chicken patties; stuff that will hold up decently well to long storage in the deep freeze.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #235 on: March 01, 2020, 07:40:01 AM »
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #236 on: March 01, 2020, 09:15:59 AM »
CNN still having a fit over the supposed lack of diversity, and thus no clue :facepalm:, of the White House Coronavirus Taskforce.
Apparently this problem can only be solved by the POWER OF DIVERSITY.  

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   This room looks like America, that is America about 40 years ago. The strength of our country is diversity across gender, race, religion and ethnicity. If you wonder why these guys never seem to have a clue, just look at the faces around that table. https://t.co/HioUuvAkLh

    — Joe Lockhart (@joelockhart) March 1, 2020

Sorry VIP section again.

The lack of diversity on Trump’s coronavirus task force is still really bugging CNN’s Joe Lockhart
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/02/29/the-lack-of-diversity-on-trumps-coronavirus-task-force-is-still-really-bugging-cnns-joe-lockhart/
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #237 on: March 01, 2020, 08:25:56 PM »
Trumpvirus in NY

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    BREAKING – @NYGovCuomo: "This evening we learned of the first positive case of novel #coronavirus — or COVID-19 — in New York State. The patient, a woman in her late thirties, contracted the virus while traveling abroad in Iran, and is currently isolated in her home.

    — Tony Morrison (@THETonyMorrison) March 2, 2020
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/03/01/gov-cuomo-announces-first-case-of-covid19-coronavirus-in-ny-state-but-he-doesnt-say-exactly-where/
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #238 on: March 01, 2020, 09:15:25 PM »
It’s been in NY...we’re just getting around to testing.  Flat *expletive deleted*ing dropped the ball on the response...
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #239 on: March 01, 2020, 09:22:17 PM »
It’s been in NY...we’re just getting around to testing.  Flat *expletive deleted*ing dropped the ball on the response...

^This. Especially since it can be asymptomatic and contagious for weeks.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #240 on: March 01, 2020, 09:50:13 PM »
^^^

It is everywhere, the estimates are that it has been in WA state for 6 weeks at least, now we are looking and now we will find.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #241 on: March 01, 2020, 09:57:25 PM »
From another forum:

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There is no stopping this thing. With an R0 of 5+ COVID-19 can only run it's course. That's why the CDC is not testing people in the US. The fact is we already have tens of thousands infected. Look at the number of people being monitored or under self-quarantine around the country. That is the number of symptomatic cases. 10,000+ in CA and NY alone.
The government is probably making the right decision here by keeping a lid on information. This cannot be stopped so the only solution is management and clean-up. FEMA is strategically placing materials in anticipation of panic when word of the outbreak spreads. They need to coordinate across all levels of government and business to try to make this as soft of a landing as possible. They cannot let people know that we, as a society, are helpless in the face of this demon. We will run out of basic medical supplies by April and there will be no resupply from China as they will still be shut down.
The cavalry is not coming.
The longer they can keep the public placid, the better chance they have at staging supplies ahead of the mass chimpout. Officials are trying to figure out how to do things like getting meals to the children who rely on government schools for food everyday once local districts start closing. They're discussing how to keep people in their homes when they can't work and miss mortgage payments. They're trying to figure out how to keep the markets as quiet as possible because a complete economic collapse very well may kill more productive people than the virus itself. They are trying to manage as best they can with a series of horrible outcomes facing them and the longer they can plan in relative peace the better.
We are on our own.
The government has resigned itself to the fact that we will all be infected sooner or later. The trolley problem has come to life.
We can sacrifice the economy to save people or sacrifice people to save the economy.
The ride never ends.

I hate to say it, but it fits so far.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #242 on: March 01, 2020, 10:42:27 PM »
I'd like to see some sort of reliable source for an R0 of 5+

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #243 on: March 01, 2020, 11:02:34 PM »
I'd like to see some sort of reliable source for an R0 of 5+

There are no reliable sources yet.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #244 on: March 01, 2020, 11:09:13 PM »
RO = ?

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #245 on: March 01, 2020, 11:11:01 PM »
RO = ?

It's how many people every contagious person infects. We need it less than 1.

https://www.healthline.com/health/r-nought-reproduction-number
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« Reply #246 on: March 01, 2020, 11:12:03 PM »
Thanks :)

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #247 on: March 02, 2020, 12:02:47 AM »
To put it in perspective the regular flu is R0 around 2. Smallpox is about 6, and untreated TB is about 10.

COVID-19 being at 5 is highly unlikely, as that is more than double any other strain of Coronavirus.

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« Reply #248 on: March 02, 2020, 12:06:09 AM »
To put it in perspective the regular flu is R0 around 2. Smallpox is about 6, and untreated TB is about 10.

COVID-19 being at 5 is highly unlikely, as that is more than double any other strain of Coronavirus.

SARS (another Coronavirus) was 4, from the last link I posted.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #249 on: March 02, 2020, 06:09:59 AM »
Iran’s death percentage is way down but only because detections are way up.