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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #850 on: March 14, 2020, 11:06:47 AM »
If the tp situation doesn't get resolved we'll run out in my house in about two weeks.

My workaround is perfectly acceptable to me. The lady in the house is already reaching out to friends just in case, lol. She's never even pee'd in the woods so being without tp would be traumatic.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #851 on: March 14, 2020, 11:07:16 AM »
You know, part of that is the complete unknown about this virus.  One article I read says it's like a respiratory illness that puts you on the couch for a while, you hydrate a d take care.  Absent other health issues, you get better.  Two articles later and I'm reading how this hits like a sledge hammer, the sick have no energy, and most will struggle to breathe, requiring oxygen therapy or mechanical respirators.   Which one is internet crap, and which one is true, I have no idea.

I've been looking at the actual death vs recovered numbers on closed cases, and I don't like where this is going:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

That said, they are not testing everyone, but South Korea is doin g a LOT more testing, and CFR is about 10%:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

This thing ain't "just like the flu". It has exponential growth, and the cases in the US are doubling every 2.5 days. We are 10 days behind Italy.
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« Reply #852 on: March 14, 2020, 11:10:46 AM »
Meanwhile

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I'm starting to get irritated now, because there's perishable stuff I like to eat daily (fresh fruit for example), and now  I have to either circle a parking lot for an hour to find a spot, then fight the crowds of toilet paper morons, then stand in the register line for 30 minutes, or go without.
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« Reply #853 on: March 14, 2020, 11:10:54 AM »
The best part is that if we take the proper measures and it works, everyone will just say that it was no big deal and we didn't need to do all that.
 :facepalm: :mad:

Proving negatives is tough.
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« Reply #854 on: March 14, 2020, 11:14:07 AM »
Just went to ebay and typed in toilet paper

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« Reply #855 on: March 14, 2020, 11:15:21 AM »

This thing ain't "just like the flu". It has exponential growth, and the cases in the US are doubling every 2.5 days.

Cases are doubling? Or testing, reporting, and people going in for tests are increasing? I'm kinda thinking as testing becomes widely available, and the MSM continues their doomsday marathon, a lot more people who might have thought they had cold symptoms are going to get tested. That's more like 2X more test subjects than actual infection rate increase. We don't have any valid, controlled baselines to project numbers off of.
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« Reply #856 on: March 14, 2020, 11:17:26 AM »
Plumbers are going to be busy due to certain kinds of paper towels, baby wipes etc.. getting flushed down the toilet.
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« Reply #857 on: March 14, 2020, 11:18:52 AM »
I *expletive deleted*ing hate people who are buying all the TP.
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« Reply #858 on: March 14, 2020, 11:20:26 AM »
I'm figuring that the panic buying will calm down in about a week or so as the "temporary normal" cuts in.
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« Reply #859 on: March 14, 2020, 11:23:40 AM »
I've been looking at the actual death vs recovered numbers on closed cases, and I don't like where this is going:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

That said, they are not testing everyone, but South Korea is doin g a LOT more testing, and CFR is about 10%:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

This thing ain't "just like the flu". It has exponential growth, and the cases in the US are doubling every 2.5 days. We are 10 days behind Italy.

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It might go down like it did in Italy or it might not.

The numbers are only one part of the equation.

How many deaths in Italy are under 80 and how many of those are of Han Chinese descent? How many were smokers, how many patient zero's did they have?  There are a lot of variables. Statistics are only as good as the inputs.
 

Unfortunately most people are unable to look past the one bit of information and contextualize it to draw a more accurate conclusion.

Personally, I'm in favor of drastic measures in the face of a potentially deadly outbreak if it really is a deadly outbreak, but the fear mongering and doom and gloomers aren't helpful.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #860 on: March 14, 2020, 11:40:43 AM »
Cases are doubling? Or testing, reporting, and people going in for tests are increasing?
Without proper testing we're flying blind. Unfortunately that means landing the plane for a little while.  =(

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« Reply #861 on: March 14, 2020, 11:42:21 AM »
Without proper testing we're flying blind. Unfortunately that means landing the plane for a little while.

I agree with you.

Nothing wrong with an abundance of caution in the face of uncertainty.
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« Reply #862 on: March 14, 2020, 11:44:57 AM »

Quote from: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/14/815039722/trump-steps-in-to-help-oil-industry-facing-its-own-coronavirus-crisis
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President Trump said the Department of Energy would buy crude for the nation's strategic petroleum reserve.

"We're going to fill it right to the top," Trump said Friday in a wide-ranging news conference at the White House. He said it will save taxpayers "billions and billions of dollars" while helping an industry that's been reeling.

This is smart.

Cue the dem knee jerk outrage that Trump is only doing it for his rich oil industry friends
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« Reply #863 on: March 14, 2020, 11:47:28 AM »
This is smart.


Cue the dem knee jerk outrage that Trump is only doing it for his rich oil industry friends

Yup. Of course if he was helping his rich oil buddies, he'd be topping off the reserves when oil was $75/barrel instead of the cheapest it's been in a long time. But let's not stop the TDS.
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« Reply #864 on: March 14, 2020, 11:50:56 AM »
Yup. Of course if he was helping his rich oil buddies, he'd be topping off the reserves when oil was $75/barrel instead of the cheapest it's been in a long time. But let's not stop the TDS.

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« Reply #865 on: March 14, 2020, 12:14:54 PM »
At root your logic is bad.  Not necessarily about addressing a disease, but about the relative severity of this one.


I guess we'll see.  Well, I'm really hoping we don't see, and it burns out.
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« Reply #866 on: March 14, 2020, 12:18:01 PM »
It might go down like it did in Italy or it might not.

The numbers are only one part of the equation.

How many deaths in Italy are under 80 and how many of those are of Han Chinese descent? How many were smokers, how many patient zero's did they have?  There are a lot of variables. Statistics are only as good as the inputs.

 

Unfortunately most people are unable to look past the one bit of information and contextualize it to draw a more accurate conclusion.

Personally, I'm in favor of drastic measures in the face of a potentially deadly outbreak if it really is a deadly outbreak, but the fear mongering and doom and gloomers aren't helpful.



I think we'll shake out somewhere between Italy and South Korea in the end.  One of the biggest factors in the US will absolutely be access to critical care.  Slowing the spread means better access to critical care means better outcomes.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #868 on: March 14, 2020, 02:23:00 PM »
The MSM thinks they're immune from responsibility for their actions. Question it and they'll do everything they can to smear you into oblivion    
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« Reply #869 on: March 14, 2020, 02:43:40 PM »
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« Reply #870 on: March 14, 2020, 02:45:56 PM »
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« Reply #871 on: March 14, 2020, 03:46:02 PM »
I'm starting to get irritated now, because there's perishable stuff I like to eat daily (fresh fruit for example), and now  I have to either circle a parking lot for an hour to find a spot, then fight the crowds of toilet paper morons, then stand in the register line for 30 minutes, or go without.

That won't last long. In another 48 hours there won't be any toilet paper to be found in any retail channel in the United States, and most households will have enough to last for fifteen years at normal rates of consumption, so the supermarket parking lots will be basically empty.
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« Reply #872 on: March 14, 2020, 04:08:21 PM »
This is what we are worried about: ventilators and the staff to run them:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/14/815675678/as-the-pandemic-spreads-will-there-be-enough-ventilators

Would CPAP machines be helpful for cases with borderline or marginal need for ventilation?
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« Reply #873 on: March 14, 2020, 04:19:51 PM »
"He has 17,700 bottles of hand sanitizer and nowhere to sell them":

https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/He-Has-17-700-Bottles-of-Hand-Sanitizer-and-15131584.php

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« Reply #874 on: March 14, 2020, 05:01:11 PM »
The monkeypocalypse has arrived:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSKH_C2YbpY
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