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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3025 on: May 19, 2020, 09:06:20 PM »
Phone call I got this AM from a medical person working a current Covid hotspot wasn't good. The current situation is horrible there and they are already begining to prepare for the next wave, pretty much their superiors are thinking we are going to be *expletive deleted*ed.

I can't disclose where or whom, lots of gag orders because things are supposed to be cheery so the economy grows and no more panics at the grocery store, also this person is so conservative that they would make a lot you look like democrats. Phone call started with do you know any pork producers in my 20 that would be willing to sell a few pigs to me.

HyVee has pork butts for $1.49 a pound right now.  (at least they did 2 days ago)  That's not the same as buying whole or half hogs but it's a start.  I bought a couple.
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« Reply #3026 on: May 19, 2020, 10:01:47 PM »
We are certainly doing some long-range planning for winter and a possible concurrent flu and COVID season.
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« Reply #3027 on: May 20, 2020, 08:21:09 AM »
Reports from China that C19 Mark II may be on the loose with somewhat different symptoms
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« Reply #3028 on: May 20, 2020, 08:22:06 AM »
Reports from China that C19 Mark II may be on the loose with somewhat different symptoms

Can we have zombies this round, please?
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« Reply #3029 on: May 20, 2020, 10:57:27 AM »
'TRUMP SMASH!' Roars Giant Green President After Taking One Too Many Doses Of Hydroxychloroquine
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Trump began to smash the room up as his alter ego and then ran upstairs where he destroyed much of the West Wing. He was finally calmed down and returned to normal as aides leaped onto his back and injected him with a shot of Clorox.

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3030 on: May 21, 2020, 10:12:01 AM »
Apparently, it's been determined the virus doesn't spread via surfaces as readily as first assumed:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/05/20/cdc-now-says-virus-does-not-spread-easily-on-surfaces-n411684

So that's good news . . . .
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« Reply #3031 on: May 21, 2020, 12:24:46 PM »
Don't know if it's my imagination or not but seems like most bad news C19 headlines have a picture of Trump underneath them while many good news ones are over a picture of a dem. The AP stories that many local news sites copy and paste seem to be the worse ones about it.
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« Reply #3032 on: May 21, 2020, 12:55:38 PM »
Apparently, it's been determined the virus doesn't spread via surfaces as readily as first assumed:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/05/20/cdc-now-says-virus-does-not-spread-easily-on-surfaces-n411684

So that's good news . . . .

Oh, good. All the time I spent not wiping everything down once I got back from the store has been post-hoc justified. I was just prescient.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3033 on: May 21, 2020, 01:21:05 PM »
Apparently, it's been determined the virus doesn't spread via surfaces as readily as first assumed:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2020/05/20/cdc-now-says-virus-does-not-spread-easily-on-surfaces-n411684

So that's good news . . . .

Good news if you choose to believe it. The problem is, the CDC and the WHO (IMHO) have zero credibility at this point. First we needed to all wear N95 masks. Then we didn't need to wear masks. Then we should all wear masks, but they don't have to be N95.

The virus only survives on most surfaces from a couple of hours (on copper) to a couple of days. Then they found it survives up to or beyond two weeks on some surfaces. Now we don't have to worry about touching surfaces.

I don't know what to believe. Florida took the woman who was running their virus information web page off the job because she refused to fudge the numbers. I've been tracking numbers for my state from their daily updates since early March. Around May 3 a discrepancy appeared -- the number of new cases from one day to the next suddenly didn't match the total, but (IIRC) 25. And the total number of deaths was suddenly off by 51. No explanation, and the discrepancies continue, each and every day. And there are still no data (for my state, anyway) on number of recoveries, which means there's no idea how many active cases there are. Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracking page shows some recoveries for my state, but the number hasn't changed in a week, so recoveries are obviously not being tracked and reported in any systematic fashion.

I don't believe anything they tell me.
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« Reply #3034 on: May 21, 2020, 01:24:35 PM »
Good news if you choose to believe it. The problem is, the CDC and the WHO (IMHO) have zero credibility at this point. First we needed to all wear N95 masks. Then we didn't need to wear masks. Then we should all wear masks, but they don't have to be N95.

The virus only survives on most surfaces from a couple of hours (on copper) to a couple of days. Then they found it survives up to or beyond two weeks on some surfaces. Now we don't have to worry about touching surfaces.

I don't know what to believe. Florida took the woman who was running their virus information web page off the job because she refused to fudge the numbers. I've been tracking numbers for my state from their daily updates since early March. Around May 3 a discrepancy appeared -- the number of new cases from one day to the next suddenly didn't match the total, but (IIRC) 25. And the total number of deaths was suddenly off by 51. No explanation, and the discrepancies continue, each and every day. And there are still no data (for my state, anyway) on number of recoveries, which means there's no idea how many active cases there are. Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracking page shows some recoveries for my state, but the number hasn't changed in a week, so recoveries are obviously not being tracked and reported in any systematic fashion.

I don't believe anything they tell me.

The woman in Florida is (was, as she was rightly fired for insubordination) a DATA ENTRY DRONE. We have several of the sort in my line of work. They ought to (and do) have ZERO involvement with determining whether the data is right. They just put in the data that other people have already confirmed and ensure that the data other have given them is displaying correctly. 

They don't get to decide the appropriateness of the data.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3035 on: May 21, 2020, 01:58:54 PM »
Good news if you choose to believe it. The problem is, the CDC and the WHO (IMHO) have zero credibility at this point. First we needed to all wear N95 masks. Then we didn't need to wear masks. Then we should all wear masks, but they don't have to be N95.

The virus only survives on most surfaces from a couple of hours (on copper) to a couple of days. Then they found it survives up to or beyond two weeks on some surfaces. Now we don't have to worry about touching surfaces.

I don't know what to believe. Florida took the woman who was running their virus information web page off the job because she refused to fudge the numbers. I've been tracking numbers for my state from their daily updates since early March. Around May 3 a discrepancy appeared -- the number of new cases from one day to the next suddenly didn't match the total, but (IIRC) 25. And the total number of deaths was suddenly off by 51. No explanation, and the discrepancies continue, each and every day. And there are still no data (for my state, anyway) on number of recoveries, which means there's no idea how many active cases there are. Johns Hopkins COVID-19 tracking page shows some recoveries for my state, but the number hasn't changed in a week, so recoveries are obviously not being tracked and reported in any systematic fashion.

I don't believe anything they tell me.

I'm with you, what the hell are we supposed to believe when the story keeps changing?  The constantly changing story doesn't help their (WHO, CDC, etc) credibility.

If people are showing positive after they've had the flu and recovered it's going to be hard to track who's actually recovered.  How do you count the re-infected?  Are they counted as a new case?  Or do you remove them from the count of those who've recovered?

I wear a mask at work because it's required.  I do use hand sanitizer before eating at work.  Because of where I work, that's a standard precaution anyway.  Other than that it's business as usual. 

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3036 on: May 21, 2020, 02:16:18 PM »

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3037 on: May 21, 2020, 02:19:42 PM »



Until things are back to the way they were under Obama
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« Reply #3038 on: May 21, 2020, 02:20:45 PM »
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That is becoming way too close to the truth not just with the beer virus, but practically everything else. We have that Lewis and Clark thread going. I wonder what they would think of our "safety above all else" society? I guess that goes for people who are still alive today too, like Apollo astronauts. Or Chuck Yeager.
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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3039 on: May 21, 2020, 02:40:54 PM »
The virus only survives on most surfaces from a couple of hours (on copper) to a couple of days. Then they found it survives up to or beyond two weeks on some surfaces. Now we don't have to worry about touching surfaces.


Only? How many people can touch a door handle in two hours or two days?
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« Reply #3040 on: May 21, 2020, 07:40:01 PM »
The Michigan AG has announced that effective immediately, the POTUS is persona non grata in the state of Michigan. She is also looking at bringing the Ford Motor Company up on charges for not forcing POTUS to wear a mask. How exactly were they supposed to order him to do that?

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/05/21/michigan-attorney-general-says-petulant-child-president-trump-is-no-longer-welcome-in-the-state-for-not-wearing-a-mask/

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Re: COVID-19/corona virus mega thread/prepping thread
« Reply #3041 on: May 21, 2020, 08:09:08 PM »

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« Reply #3042 on: May 22, 2020, 06:56:14 PM »
So Katie figured out her method of social distance drop of and pick up for pets. She bought a kennel run with two outer gates and one gate in the middle. Customer goes in one side with dog, removes leash and collar, we open middle gate and call dog through to our side, put on our leash and then take the dog into building. For pick up, reverse the procedure. It was even featured on the local news.

Katie is now trying to figure out how to keep it once quarantine is over. We think with a little fancy verbal trickery we can keep it until end of summer. It's glorious. No customers allowed in the building is awesome.

Not all of this quarantine stuff is bad.
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« Reply #3043 on: May 22, 2020, 07:12:23 PM »
No customers allowed in the building is awesome.

Not all of this quarantine stuff is bad.

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« Reply #3044 on: May 22, 2020, 10:22:17 PM »
So Katie figured out her method of social distance drop of and pick up for pets. She bought a kennel run with two outer gates and one gate in the middle. Customer goes in one side with dog, removes leash and collar, we open middle gate and call dog through to our side, put on our leash and then take the dog into building. For pick up, reverse the procedure. It was even featured on the local news.

Katie is now trying to figure out how to keep it once quarantine is over. We think with a little fancy verbal trickery we can keep it until end of summer. It's glorious. No customers allowed in the building is awesome.

Not all of this quarantine stuff is bad.

It's Cville, you could surely convince someone to roll in a kiddie pool of essential oils or something to ward of the virus. I really do know someone who is burning sage like mad and picking out the appropriate crystals. Some of us are rooting for the virus.
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« Reply #3045 on: May 23, 2020, 11:16:03 AM »
So Katie figured out her method of social distance drop of and pick up for pets. She bought a kennel run with two outer gates and one gate in the middle. Customer goes in one side with dog, removes leash and collar, we open middle gate and call dog through to our side, put on our leash and then take the dog into building. For pick up, reverse the procedure. It was even featured on the local news.

Katie is now trying to figure out how to keep it once quarantine is over. We think with a little fancy verbal trickery we can keep it until end of summer. It's glorious. No customers allowed in the building is awesome.

Not all of this quarantine stuff is bad.

Umm ... Question: What makes Katie think the cats and dogs can't carry and spread the Covid - or anything else for that matter?

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« Reply #3046 on: May 23, 2020, 11:50:58 AM »
Umm ... Question: What makes Katie think the cats and dogs can't carry and spread the Covid - or anything else for that matter?

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According to the CDC  they don't ,   although apparently cats are somewhat susceptible to covid 19 disease.
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« Reply #3047 on: May 23, 2020, 03:02:27 PM »
Cuomo's little nursing home problem is all Orange Man's fault.

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New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo Saturday doubled down on his state's now-scrapped nursing home policy that critics say contributed to thousands of coronavirus deaths and instead blamed the problem on President Trump and his administration.

"New York followed the president's agency guidance," Cuomo said Saturday at his press conference. ".... What New York did was follow what the Republican Administration said to do. That's not my attempt to politicize it. It's my attempt to depoliticize it. So don't criticize the state for following the president's policy."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuomo-blames-trump-nursing-home-debacle-new-york-coronavirus
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« Reply #3048 on: May 23, 2020, 04:42:01 PM »
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The governor's office said New York's original nursing home policy was in line with a March 13 directive from the Trump Administration's Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) and Centers from Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that went out to all states on how to control infections in nursing homes.

I guess if you believe that the scientists are always right, even when suggesting something that anyone with an iota of common sense would think was a terrible idea, then it isn't your fault when it goes all FUBAR.

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« Reply #3049 on: May 23, 2020, 05:27:25 PM »
Umm ... Question: What makes Katie think the cats and dogs can't carry and spread the Covid - or anything else for that matter?

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