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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #275 on: April 02, 2020, 08:25:27 AM »
I think this one is quite possibly the most important article about Corona virus to date
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

Important on many points. Including how so many people here fell (and are still falling) for the propaganda coming from a communist regime known for it's propaganda. Early on there was some leeway. By now though, anyone with 1/10th of a brain should know their reported numbers are low, but the MSM and others are still using their "official numbers" to show how much the US sucks.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #276 on: April 02, 2020, 08:34:20 AM »
Important on many points. Including how so many people here fell (and are still falling) for the propaganda coming from a communist regime known for it's propaganda. Early on there was some leeway. By now though, anyone with 1/10th of a brain should know their reported numbers are low, but the MSM and others are still using their "official numbers" to show how much the US sucks.

I even thought maybe the Chinese were mostly telling the truth.  My point early on was why would they be so aggressive if they weren't scared as *expletive deleted*ck of this bug.  The Chinese are very pragmatic.  If it were "just the flu", they'd have happily sacrificed a few workers to keep their economy going.
Instead, they locked down over 700 million people.
Watching this *expletive deleted*it *expletive deleted*ck up Italy, and now start to run wild through the US...it makes it more obvious that the Chinese lied about their numbers.
20 million dead? I really doubt it.  But a factor of 10 more higher than they claimed? Believable.

As of yesterday, COVID19 is the 3rd leading cause of death world wide, only behind Cancer and Heart Disease.  Neither of those are communicable.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
215,000 confirmed. 5,000 deaths.  I'd really like to see the hospitalization stats.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #277 on: April 02, 2020, 08:56:20 AM »
I think this one is quite possibly the most important article about Corona virus to date
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says

Fuh. You can't believe US intelligence! They're the bad guys! The Chinese are 100% honest, and that honesty just shows how badly the US sucks at this and how criminally culpable Cheeto is for all of the deaths in the US! IMPEACH! IMPEACH!
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #278 on: April 02, 2020, 10:09:49 AM »
Here's something to think about, one of my good friends is an ER nurse and he had some minor similar Covid-19 symptoms, so work gave him a Covid-19 test 10 days ago, he still hasn't gotten his results and is quarantined at home.

A boom of positive cases is coming.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #279 on: April 02, 2020, 10:11:39 AM »
Here's something to think about, one of my good friends is an ER nurse and he had some minor similar Covid-19 symptoms, so work gave him a Covid-19 test 10 days ago, he still hasn't gotten his results and is quarantined at home.

A boom of positive cases is coming.

We have a friend who is in a similar situation and was on day 12 of waiting 3 days ago.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #280 on: April 02, 2020, 11:58:46 AM »
A bedside test has been rolled out, takes about 45 minutes to run. It only detects the acute infection though. If you are on either side of acute it won't detect the virus so the test that requires waiting is still needed to completely rule out.

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #281 on: April 02, 2020, 07:13:34 PM »
A bedside test has been rolled out, takes about 45 minutes to run. It only detects the acute infection though. If you are on either side of acute it won't detect the virus so the test that requires waiting is still needed to completely rule out.

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The test that just got approved a few days ago takes five minutes for a positive, almost 15 minutes for negative.

There's a 2-minute test, but despite Reuters' botched reporting, it ain't approved yet.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #282 on: April 02, 2020, 08:07:14 PM »
The Washington state governor just extended the 'stay at home' order for another month.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #283 on: April 02, 2020, 09:41:33 PM »
We have a friend who is in a similar situation and was on day 12 of waiting 3 days ago.

He texted me he got his results, negative, but still has to finish the 14 day quarantine.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #284 on: April 02, 2020, 11:24:32 PM »
I have a hunch by May 1, if this hasn't peaked, America is gonna go beserk.  Who knows what could happen if the electric grid starts to flutter, natural gas quits flowing...any other sorts of breakdowns..

I still think, as ugly as this disease is, how it spreads, how it affects some people and kills some of them, it's been overblown for some reason.  If reasonable advice had been given to folks about being a bit careful and ramp up the hygiene, assured the folks the government was working hard with labs for meds and a vaccine, we may have had national herd immunity by May and things would calm down slowly over the rest of the year and the economy wouldn't have melted down.  Everyone I speak with has very little respect for or trust in the MSM or the government...the two things that we should be able to at least semi trust.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #285 on: April 03, 2020, 01:12:19 PM »
260000 confirmed and the week isn’t out.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #286 on: April 03, 2020, 01:16:47 PM »
I even thought maybe the Chinese were mostly telling the truth.  My point early on was why would they be so aggressive if they weren't scared as *expletive deleted*ck of this bug.  The Chinese are very pragmatic.  If it were "just the flu", they'd have happily sacrificed a few workers to keep their economy going.
Instead, they locked down over 700 million people.
Watching this *expletive deleted*it *expletive deleted*ck up Italy, and now start to run wild through the US...it makes it more obvious that the Chinese lied about their numbers.
20 million dead? I really doubt it.  But a factor of 10 more higher than they claimed? Believable.

[ahem]  I have a theory about why they were so aggressive so fast.  Like they knew something about this bug that the numbers didn't support at the time.......

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #287 on: April 03, 2020, 01:26:52 PM »
[ahem]  I have a theory about why they were so aggressive so fast.  Like they knew something about this bug that the numbers didn't support at the time.......

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I read a story this morning that said "scientists" (they don't say which ones) are now leaning more and more toward the plausibility of a lab protocol breach. Now that "scientists" are saying it instead of people like Tom Cotton, I see that the MSM is aggressively backpedaling their previous "tinfoil fruitcake" stance on the possibility.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #288 on: April 03, 2020, 01:28:02 PM »
I read a story this morning that said "scientists" (they don't say which ones) are now leaning more and more toward the plausibility of a lab protocol breach. Now that "scientists" are saying it instead of people like Tom Cotton, I see that the MSM is aggressively backpedaling their previous "tinfoil fruitcake" stance on the possibility.

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #289 on: April 03, 2020, 01:43:37 PM »
260000 confirmed and the week isn’t out.


The CDC has 239000 total and 233000 of those are under investigation; i.e. not confirmed yet.  What are you referring to?

ETA:

I think I was looking at the info incorrectly.  Apparently, "under investigation" means they're still determining how the person got the virus.  My bad.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #290 on: April 03, 2020, 01:47:58 PM »
The CDC has 239000 total and 233000 of those are under investigation; i.e. not confirmed yet.  What are you referring to?

ETA:

I think I was looking at the info incorrectly.  Apparently, "under investigation" means they're still determining how the person got the virus.  My bad.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #291 on: April 03, 2020, 10:08:46 PM »
[ahem]  I have a theory about why they were so aggressive so fast.  Like they knew something about this bug that the numbers didn't support at the time.......

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If you were the 2nd most powerful nation on earth, a great way to change the world order would be to unleash a terrible virus on a large inland city that has enough international connections to ensure world-wide spread. At the same time, you quickly shut down the virus locally.

It's not outside the realm of possibility.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #292 on: April 04, 2020, 01:38:48 AM »
I revise my prediction. I think we're going to look back on this as a mass hysteria. Not because the virus isn't serious, but because we impoverished so many people.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #293 on: April 04, 2020, 05:39:58 AM »
As of yesterday, COVID19 is the 3rd leading cause of death world wide, only behind Cancer and Heart Disease.  Neither of those are communicable.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
215,000 confirmed. 5,000 deaths.  I'd really like to see the hospitalization stats.

Yet there's a (thoroughly unlikeable even before this) guy on a Jeep forum I frequent who is vehemently proclaiming that we're all sheep and that this whole thing is overblown hype -- it's just a dry run for the government to declare martial law, and we're all too dumb to see it. Only he is smart enough to understand what's really happening.

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« Reply #294 on: April 04, 2020, 06:23:26 AM »
Yet there's a (thoroughly unlikeable even before this) guy on a Jeep forum I frequent who is vehemently proclaiming that we're all sheep and that this whole thing is overblown hype -- it's just a dry run for the government to declare martial law, and we're all too dumb to see it. Only he is smart enough to understand what's really happening.

Right.

Same thing on a motorcycle forum I'm on. More posts started by him than everybody else combined and it's killing what used to be a good forum.
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #295 on: April 04, 2020, 06:56:59 AM »
One guy like that can be toxic to an otherwise good forum.
That’s what I like about this forum. We’re all toxic here.
What we have here is failure to communicate.

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #296 on: April 04, 2020, 08:48:36 AM »
One guy like that can be toxic to an otherwise good forum.
That’s what I like about this forum. We’re all toxic here.

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #297 on: April 04, 2020, 11:20:10 AM »
I have a relative who is a pathologist in the northwest.  His "guestimate" was 100,000-120,000 dead he though we may be able to get the schools open again in the fall.  Let us hope it is no worse than that.

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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #298 on: April 04, 2020, 11:57:17 AM »
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Re: COVID19 predictions
« Reply #299 on: April 09, 2020, 09:12:31 PM »
I think my earlier guesses at our nation debt where so low I can't even make a prediction now.

It's going to get interesting once this is over.
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