Author Topic: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest  (Read 3406 times)

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text?r=1&s=1

Everything the left wants.  Ban on private party transfers, pre-emptive licensing before ownership of so much as one cartridge, AWB 2.0, manufacturer liability for the actions of consumers, etc.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2020, 12:19:37 AM »
Surely, they'll be willing to compromise.  [barf]

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2020, 12:24:10 AM »
Brought to you by the congressman who didn't want to expand a military base on Guam because he was afraid the island would capsize.  :facepalm:

Does anyone have a sense of what chance this bill stands of passing the House?
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2020, 12:26:09 AM »
Brought to you by the congressman who didn't want to expand a military base on Guam because he was afraid the island would capsize.  :facepalm:

Does anyone have a sense of what chance this bill stands of passing the House?

Probably have a better chance of burying it in the senate.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2020, 12:41:29 AM »
burying it in the senate.

This is exactly what will happen. The house can do whatever, if grim reaper Mitch won't give it the green light then it's dead.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2020, 02:11:55 AM »
They are going to get one, by hook or by crook.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2020, 02:59:22 PM »
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"Brought to you by the congressman who didn't want to expand a military base on Guam because he was afraid the island would capsize."

Wasn't that actually a joke?  I don't know much about Guam's geology, but it sure sounds like a hyperbolic wisecrack to me.

Maybe the real joke is on us since we keep bandying that one around as if the guy meant it seriously.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2020, 03:02:36 PM »
"Brought to you by the congressman who didn't want to expand a military base on Guam because he was afraid the island would capsize."

Wasn't that actually a joke?  Sounds like a wisecrack to me.

Maybe the real joke is on us since we keep bandying that one up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cesSRfXqS1Q

See for yourself. Looks more like idiocy that they tried to call a joke afterward.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2020, 03:22:47 PM »
<sidebar comment>

"Brought to you by the congressman who didn't want to expand a military base on Guam because he was afraid the island would capsize."

Wasn't that actually a joke?  I don't know much about Guam's geology, but it sure sounds like a hyperbolic wisecrack to me.

Maybe the real joke is on us since we keep bandying that one around as if the guy meant it seriously.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2020, 04:30:05 PM »

Wasn't that actually a joke?


I don't think so, although his staff attempted to portray it as a joke later.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2020, 04:59:39 PM »
Mmmkay.  Agreed.  Not a joke.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2020, 05:07:12 PM »
If a joke, that guy has the most deadpan British sense of humor deliveries ever. A possibility... until you listen to some of the other whack stuff he says.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2020, 05:42:54 PM »


Wasn't that actually a joke?

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Not a joke, maye he had hit his bowl right before the hearing..... ;)

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2020, 05:46:49 PM »
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text?r=1&s=1

Everything the left wants.  Ban on private party transfers, pre-emptive licensing before ownership of so much as one cartridge, AWB 2.0, manufacturer liability for the actions of consumers, etc.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2020, 06:10:19 PM »
If a joke, that guy has the most deadpan British sense of humor deliveries ever. A possibility... until you listen to some of the other whack stuff he says.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2020, 06:57:20 PM »
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text?r=1&s=1

Everything the left wants.  Ban on private party transfers, pre-emptive licensing before ownership of so much as one cartridge, AWB 2.0, manufacturer liability for the actions of consumers, etc.

Last time I checked, the Dems don't have a super majority in both houses.  And Trump may actually stand up for gun rights.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2020, 09:13:55 PM »
Last time I checked, the Dems don't have a super majority in both houses.  And Trump may actually stand up for gun rights.

Really?  Bumpstock ban, "take the guns first, go through due process second" mentality?

Claims of exigent emergency is exactly the type of excuse you would "take first, justify later" as he talked about. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

He's the only first term president I can think of to stab the 2A community twice, and still somehow be perceived as an ally to it during reelection.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2020, 12:31:04 AM »
All this time I thought his pro-2A  kids were setting him straight .....

He's made very pro 2A assertions at his rallies.

I know he did the bumpstock ban .... Is that really a hill we need to die on? 
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2020, 12:54:47 AM »
He is a piece of crap but better than the alternative again. I hate our system some times.

He is no conservative and we need to find a good third party but that's not happening.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2020, 07:30:20 AM »
Pretty much the main things good he has done is some things with the economy and the trolling of the left. I’m not the biggest fan of him either.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2020, 08:49:45 AM »
While Trump, may, in the interest of the "art of the deal" sell us out on things like bump stocks or suppressors (likely with a "big picture" nod from the NRA), I don't for a second believe he would sell us out on things like "gun and ammo licensing".

IMO, likely from a lack of understanding, he looks at things like bump stocks and suppressors as "accessories" and doesn't look at them at a second amendment issue. The same as many, many gun owners who don't know or care about them. I think he knows what would happen to him politically if he sided in favor of restricting firearms themselves.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2020, 12:00:12 PM »
And the "take it first, due process second" mentality that he has explicitly and overtly endorsed?

ERPO "Red Flag" actions are in the bill I linked.  He's 100% allied with that notion.  He WANTS that.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2020, 12:27:31 PM »
He's the only first term president I can think of to stab the 2A community twice, and still somehow be perceived as an ally to it during reelection.

I'm with you on Trump & the 2A, but I'm still not sure why you think McConnell would let it get a vote.
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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2020, 12:58:56 PM »
Really?  Bumpstock ban, "take the guns first, go through due process second" mentality?

Claims of exigent emergency is exactly the type of excuse you would "take first, justify later" as he talked about. 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second

He's the only first term president I can think of to stab the 2A community twice, and still somehow be perceived as an ally to it during reelection.

Trump is a fudd, but he has not endorsed an AW ban as president... and he has walked back previous endorsements of gun control after his base got mad.  He quite clearly doesn't care about gun rights (or gun control for that matter), but doesn't see the sense in antagonizing his base.

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Re: Federal Gun Control Bill when we can't legally assemble to protest
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2020, 02:25:48 PM »
Trump is a fudd, but he has not endorsed an AW ban as president... and he has walked back previous endorsements of gun control after his base got mad.  He quite clearly doesn't care about gun rights (or gun control for that matter), but doesn't see the sense in antagonizing his base.
In an election year, I really don't think he would sign this.  I would be more concerned during a second term.  Sucks, but the alternatives are worse.  

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