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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2020, 01:36:29 PM »
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    Sharpton not ready to give up on the NASCAR “noose” story: "It’s clear what a noose represents … And then did someone know that it was in the stall when they did belatedly assign Bubba there? … I do not think that we’ve seen closure in this particular inquiry." pic.twitter.com/xzq5hQIWC5

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https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/06/24/charles-c-w-cooke-calls-out-al-sharpton-for-floating-new-conspiracy-theory-on-bubba-wallace-and-the-noose/
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2020, 02:59:21 PM »
Bubba Wallace just released a new statement concerning the noose.  His mea culpa is a little late, but better than never.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/06/24/bubba-wallace-releases-new-statement-did-he-finally-get-the-tone-right/
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2020, 03:01:50 PM »
I zoomed way in on the first pic.  It vaguely resembles a noose, but that's not anywhere near 13 turns; maybe about 3 or 4.  And the standing end is coming out in the the wrong place for a hangman's knot.  I'd bet it's a totally different knot.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2020, 03:04:09 PM »
Now lets see if Sharpton lets it go
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2020, 03:15:31 PM »
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2020, 03:52:58 PM »
So how much coverage is this noose (even if the Klan put it there) getting, vs the white dude that got beat up at Macy's?
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2020, 04:23:47 PM »
So how much coverage is this noose (even if the Klan put it there) getting, vs the white dude that got beat up at Macy's?

What white guy that got beat up at Macy's?

And the fact that I'm seriously asking and NOT being facetious proves your point.

Oh, and also they beat up a gay senator in Wisconsin, which would be non-stop 24/7 news for the next few days and calling for heads to roll if the Proud Boys did it. In this case, the crowd just got a little overenthusiastic. *expletive deleted*it happens when you're fighting The Man, man.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2020, 11:54:34 PM »
I liked Wallace as a driver, may have to sit on that for awhile and see how it ages.  So Nascrap, how's that whole drive for diversity thing going? Last three months you fired one of the recruits for using a slur(Larson) towards another driver(Wallace) in a familiar and friendly manner, another lost his sponsor for a (justified) rage quit of a video game(Wallace), and now the same one can't stay out of the spotlight.

Despite being born into the open wheel racing world and loving Kyle Larson I had no idea, until Nascrap told me, that he was part Jap. It really never occurred to us rednecks to worry about what he was besides fast. Kinda explains some of those banzai moves though. If you see him tying on that rag before he puts the helmet on, look out.  =D
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2020, 12:02:27 AM »
Nascrap is pretty good term. Give me one for NHRA.

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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2020, 08:54:14 AM »
Man Horrified As Kids Give Him Noose For Father's Day
https://babylonbee.com/news/man-horrified-as-kids-give-him-noose-for-fathers-day?utm_content=buffer7cfab&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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"I was literally shaking," Carson, a white progressive, said. "It was a clear message, plain and simple: we hate you because of your skin color. Well, I mean, not my skin color. But I'm offended on behalf of some people somewhere who might have been offended by this."


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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #61 on: June 25, 2020, 11:08:49 AM »

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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #62 on: June 25, 2020, 02:06:30 PM »
I was a proper noose.  I don't blame Wallace for his reaction at all.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/nascar-releases-photo-noose-bubba-wallaces-garage


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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #63 on: June 25, 2020, 02:13:05 PM »
^^^ Oh, wow.   That puts a different spin on things.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #64 on: June 25, 2020, 02:15:41 PM »
^^^ Oh, wow.   That puts a different spin on things.

I don't think it does, or at least not much of one. You still don't need 15 FBI agents to investigate something like that. Unless it's what the FBI does for anyone, regardless of color or other diversity indicator.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #65 on: June 25, 2020, 02:39:42 PM »
I was a proper noose.  I don't blame Wallace for his reaction at all.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/nascar-releases-photo-noose-bubba-wallaces-garage


That does look like a noose.  However, it sounds like it had been there for months and wasn't put there just for that driver.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2020, 03:24:13 PM »
Waaaaay back in grade school there was this kid that made nooses out of whatever string or whatever he could get ahold of.

All the cords for the blinds ended in nooses, anything with a drawstring...noosed! String used in an activity...noosed!

When a friend of mine came home from either Basic or Jump School he went around tying prussic knots in everything.

So there are people that just do that sort of thing.

 
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2020, 03:30:08 PM »
If it is a proper, working noose I'm surprised nobody got their hand caught in it.  Is it possible it's been tied in such a way to avoid sliding?
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #68 on: June 25, 2020, 03:35:02 PM »
If it is a proper, working noose I'm surprised nobody got their hand caught in it.  Is it possible it's been tied in such a way to avoid sliding?

A proper noose slides both ways.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #69 on: June 25, 2020, 03:49:47 PM »
A proper noose slides both ways.

Right.  And if it was tied in such a way that it couldn't slide it wouldn't be a proper noose.  I could see someone tying a knot that looks like a noose but would still work as a handle.  And if nobody got their hand caught in it since last year, when this photo was supposedly taken, it seems likely it's just a macabre door pull.  Kind of like putting a skull pull chain on a ceiling fan.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2020, 03:59:05 PM »
I can see where having a noose in a small rope such as a garage pull would be handy. Either grab by the loop or wrap your hand around the top portion of the knot and have your thumb and forefinger on the small cord to prevent slipping (if it does) to give a better purchase on the rope. Am I a racist now that I see where a noose may be just fine?

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The Hangman's noose is known for its strength under heavy weights and sudden movements, making it a good hook in an emergency.

While we all know this what I found interesting was the numbers for suicide lines under this on the web page on how to tie the knot. I have seen more suicide by hanging than most and I don't ever recall anyone taking time to tie a proper noose. Usually just a quick slip knot.

https://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Hangman%27s-Noose

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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2020, 04:02:46 PM »
...it seems likely it's just a macabre door pull. 

That's obviously what it was.

No one seems interested in talking about the ill effects of the white supremacy mythologizing that's been going on the past few years, which has intensified for the past month. We have an adult NASCAR driver, and the rest of the organization, going into alarm mode over a rope tied into noose. Without the hysteria, they wouldn't have involved the police, much less the Feds.

I worry about what this moral panic is doing to young people.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #72 on: June 25, 2020, 04:04:46 PM »
Good thing they didn't find a banana peel
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #73 on: June 25, 2020, 07:41:35 PM »
That does look like a noose.  However, it sounds like it had been there for months and wasn't put there just for that driver.

"NASCAR has released the first official image of the garage door pull-rope fashioned into a noose-style knot that was found in Bubba Wallace’s garage at Talladega Superspeedway on Sunday and said that an internal investigation determined it was the only one present at any of the 29 tracks it visits."

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/nascar-releases-photo-noose-bubba-wallaces-garage

That info is a bit more damning.
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Re: NASCAR has just banned the Confederate flag from all events
« Reply #74 on: June 25, 2020, 08:42:21 PM »
A picture with no identifying info on when or where other than from NASCAR..... not saying they would fabricate this but I wouldn't put it past them. There for 15 minutes or so NASCAR *almost* became relevant in the national scheme of things. Had they released the picture immediately it would have been much more believable to me.

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