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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2020, 08:22:03 PM »
But what's more important here is how it looks to anyone looking for an excuse to riot. It appeared to me as I mentioned in the OP he could have been reaching for a gun. But I'm not someone who feels cop are hunting down blacks for the sport of killing them so I don't have that coloring my view of events.
I agree.  Looked to me like a situation where the officer saw him reach for a gun, fired a few times.  Saw him still with the gun and shot a few more times. 


Point for those thinking cops are evil:  If cops were really trying to hunt down and kill black people, none of it would be on camera have any witnesses.  They aren't going to gun someone down in front of a hundred people. 
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2020, 10:15:56 PM »
Compilation of the riots and aftermath:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/24/like-a-scene-out-of-hell-watch-peaceful-protesters-in-wisconsin-respond-to-jacob-blake-shooting-by-terrorizing-police-and-their-community/

Of note: When conservatives peacefully protest, destroy nothing, but are armed, they are violent terrorists. When the left destroys everything in sight with projectiles and fire, and are armed with ARs, they are peacefully protesting. If I were to accidentally turn down one of these streets, besides my car as a weapon of escape, I think a submachine gun in the car would be justified for my survival.

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2020, 10:19:57 PM »
i have not looked at the vids posted here, but the one i saw this morning looked like a good shoot.
people keep guns under the front seat, he was reaching for something.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2020, 10:41:23 PM »
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2020, 12:23:17 AM »
How much longer before armed "peaceful protestors" and police engage in an actual firefight in one of the cities undergoing violent riots?  How long after that first firefight will the police in that locale be disarmed by the idiots governing the city where it occurs?

That's why they (the police) need to make the first shootout count.  A few dozen dead rioters, a hundred or so wounded.  Then the entire police force (including the brass) calls in sick the next day. 

I have a pretty low opinion of the police.  That I would ever take their side over the protesters means this *expletive deleted*it has been going on way too long and I no longer care about the details.

And Governor Evans should be arrested for inciting a riot.

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2020, 09:01:08 AM »
That's why they (the police) need to make the first shootout count.  A few dozen dead rioters, a hundred or so wounded.  Then the entire police force (including the brass) calls in sick the next day. 

I have a pretty low opinion of the police.  That I would ever take their side over the protesters means this *expletive deleted*it has been going on way too long and I no longer care about the details.

And Governor Evans should be arrested for inciting a riot.



I hate to say it, plus  I know it sounds like "armchair warrior" talk, but seeing what these people do and say in all the videos I have seen, I have to agree with, "mow a bunch of them down."

I couldn't care less about their bravado if they were just out yelling, or even as much as  I hate to see it, destroying property. But these aholes have been severely injuring innocent people, and it has only gotten worse because there have been basically zero repercussions. If a half dozen of these antifa aholes were shot dead while attacking a little old lady, this stuff might simmer down. Or I'd be good with beating them within an inch of their lives. Dialogue doesn't work with these idiots.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2020, 09:38:53 AM »
That is one thing I have seen that needs to be shut down.  A whole bunch of these people get violent and combative with cops and getting in their face very aggressively.  Police just stand there or do their best to arrest them without causing injury.  They do this even to the point of putting themselves in danger.  I think if cops were allowed to respond with more physical force including batons, they might shut some of this down without shooting people. 

https://youtu.be/jtyELAJKQO8?t=570
At 9:30, Matt Walsh shares a police video of two officers trying to arrest a guy.  He manages to get free, go grab a gun and start shooting at the officers.  IMO, this is how the incident in Wisconsin could easily have turned out. 
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2020, 09:58:28 AM »
Somehow I feel that if it were right wingers rioting, the Panopticon Police State would figure out who was funding, organizing and participating within a couple days and we'd already be talking about their trials  [tinfoil]

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2020, 10:06:38 AM »
That is one thing I have seen that needs to be shut down.  A whole bunch of these people get violent and combative with cops and getting in their face very aggressively.  Police just stand there or do their best to arrest them without causing injury.  They do this even to the point of putting themselves in danger.  I think if cops were allowed to respond with more physical force including batons, they might shut some of this down without shooting people. 

https://youtu.be/jtyELAJKQO8?t=570
At 9:30, Matt Walsh shares a police video of two officers trying to arrest a guy.  He manages to get free, go grab a gun and start shooting at the officers.  IMO, this is how the incident in Wisconsin could easily have turned out. 

I've seen that video before (the guy opening fire on the police officers after fighting them off) and was the first thing I thought of when people were saying "he was just trying to get into his car!!!"

Well, you don't get to do that when the police are trying to arrest you. You DESERVE to be shot for that.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2020, 10:33:39 AM »
I've seen that video before (the guy opening fire on the police officers after fighting them off) and was the first thing I thought of when people were saying "he was just trying to get into his car!!!"

Well, you don't get to do that when the police are trying to arrest you. You DESERVE to be shot for that.
I was just wandering if the cops had deployed batons as soon as he started to fight and knocked him around a couple times, would it have changed anything?  I don't know.  It probably wouldn't have looked good on camera though. 
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2020, 10:34:16 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660213/Video-shows-Jacob-Blake-brawling-cops-shot-Wisconsin-cops-placed-leave.html

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Benjamin Crump shared video of the incident on his Twitter feed, and confirmed today he is now representing Blake's family, and will 'demand answers' from police.

Does that name set off alarm bells for anyone else?

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https://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Zimmerman-sues-Trayvon-Martins-family-attorneys-565797011.html

He's the blood-sucking, race-baiting, perjury suborning, vile, sub-human lawyer who represented the family of Trayvon Martin.

Oh, that will calm tensions. Certainly.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2020, 10:41:34 AM »
So PETA and those guys will be doing something, right?

Heed the warning at the link. This actually is pretty graphic and sickening with the cheering:

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/25/shocking-and-blood-boiling-peaceful-rioters-murder-a-raccoon-demonstrate-that-none-of-this-is-about-justice/
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2020, 01:34:09 PM »
Don't you hate it when your peaceful protest march is interrupted by fires and destruction. Bad fire! Bad Destruction!

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2020, 01:39:12 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660213/Video-shows-Jacob-Blake-brawling-cops-shot-Wisconsin-cops-placed-leave.html

Does that name set off alarm bells for anyone else?

Let me refresh your memory, if not:

He's the blood-sucking, race-baiting, perjury suborning, vile, sub-human lawyer who represented the family of Trayvon Martin.

Oh, that will calm tensions. Certainly.

The only pictures of Blake we'll be seeing from now on will be from when he was 8 years old.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2020, 02:59:21 PM »
Be interesting to see if there's body cam footage of him actually grabbing a gun. Not that that's going to make an oz of difference to the "let's loot and burn" crowd.
Even if it did I wouldn't expect them to do anything but go back home and start up the usual "see what YOU did to our neighborhood?! YOU need to fix this!" violin
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2020, 03:02:39 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660213/Video-shows-Jacob-Blake-brawling-cops-shot-Wisconsin-cops-placed-leave.html

Does that name set off alarm bells for anyone else?

Let me refresh your memory, if not:

He's the blood-sucking, race-baiting, perjury suborning, vile, sub-human lawyer who represented the family of Trayvon Martin.

Oh, that will calm tensions. Certainly.


Crump seems to pop almost everywhere this happens. Kira Davis says that's because he's the one that immediately gets in touch with and offers to "help" the families, who usually don't exactly have their own law firm on retainer.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2020, 03:26:21 PM »
Armed BLM rioters stop a police armored vehicle in Kenosha, which then proceeds to throw tear gas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1297770791891656706

I've been expecting this to turn into a shooting war for a while now . . . .
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2020, 03:56:34 PM »
Armed BLM rioters stop a police armored vehicle in Kenosha, which then proceeds to throw tear gas.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1297770791891656706

I've been expecting this to turn into a shooting war for a while now . . . .
Was that noise at the end the guy with the rifle shooting at the vehicle?  I wasn't sure.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2020, 04:08:12 PM »
Was that noise at the end the guy with the rifle shooting at the vehicle?  I wasn't sure.

It's hard to say for sure.  Around 1:40 it sounds like what might be gunfire.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2020, 04:21:20 PM »
It's hard to say for sure.  Around 1:40 it sounds like what might be gunfire.

I thought it was gunfire at first, three shots, but then there was a similar shot-like sound when a CS gas canister detonated just before the AV went around the corner.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2020, 08:10:08 PM »
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2020, 03:19:28 PM »
The mother of the man shot and paralyzed in Kenosha seems pretty level-headed.  She was interviewed on CNN:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1298645750302347265
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