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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2020, 08:50:13 AM »
Cop: 1 criminal with 7 shots
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Regarding this Kyle kids.  Why do I see people in the media talking about charges for transporting a rifle across state lines?  Is there some law in Illinois and/or Wisconsin about that?  A minor with a rifle I could more easily understand. 
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #76 on: August 28, 2020, 09:03:48 AM »
They are either:

1 talking out their ass because they assume there's some law to prevent that with scary guns (like people think guns need to be registered)
2 purposely trying to play up the "He came from ANOTHER STATE to cause trouble!!!" narrative, and want to make sure folks don't remember he was 20 minutes from home in a town he had a job in.
3 have read somewhere about a federal charge for transporting firearms across state lines in the commission of a felony* and want the feds involved.

Or some combination of the above.



* That would be 18 USC 924 (b):

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Whoever, with intent to commit therewith an offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year, or with knowledge or reasonable cause to believe that an offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year is to be committed therewith, ships, transports, or receives a firearm or any ammunition in interstate or foreign commerce shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

I would normally think that "commerce" is a stretch in this case, but have learned not to underestimate the elasticity of the Interstate Commerce Clause.

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #77 on: August 28, 2020, 11:22:19 PM »
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2020, 11:32:05 AM »
Likely won't change the current narrative, but it looks like Blake was engaged in both violating a restraining order and sexual assault before he was shot:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/08/29/reports-this-is-the-reason-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest-in-kenosha/
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2020, 02:34:04 PM »
The peaceful protesters seem to have tired of milling about downtown and decided to move into a residential neighborhood. Seems the residents aren't the pushovers like to other they have become accustomed to dealing with.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/residents-fire-warning-shots-as-rioters-move-into-residential-neighborhoods/?fbclid=IwAR2qL7C0JQcjZ9IxbbFjlGy9zVEIjyIaH9BqFvOXmCLeLzy0DI6od6382ls


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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2020, 08:11:26 PM »
The peaceful protesters seem to have tired of milling about downtown and decided to move into a residential neighborhood. Seems the residents aren't the pushovers like to other they have become accustomed to dealing with.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/residents-fire-warning-shots-as-rioters-move-into-residential-neighborhoods/?fbclid=IwAR2qL7C0JQcjZ9IxbbFjlGy9zVEIjyIaH9BqFvOXmCLeLzy0DI6od6382ls


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That is great.  Now as long as the police don't go after the people trying to defend their homes/businesses, it will all work out.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2020, 10:26:22 PM »
Colion Noir weighs in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE


Unfortunately Andrew Branca's comments (https://lawofselfdefense.com/blog/) on this incident are behind his paywall.  Guessing that they will be pretty similar to what he said on the New Mexico antifa riot shooting in June.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2020, 10:37:55 PM »
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   If @JoeBiden goes to Kenosha right now, he will win Wisconsin and he will win the Presidency.

    It’s also the RIGHT thing to do. It’s also something Donald Trump is INCAPABLE of doing.

    — Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) August 28, 2020

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   On flight back from Louisiana, WH informed press pool that Pres Trump will visit Kenosha, WI on Tuesday. He'll meet with law enforcement & survey damage from the violent protests. Asked if he'll meet with Jacob Blake's family, spokesman said the schedule not yet completed. pic.twitter.com/GR8tlbMDu0

    — Mark Knoller (@markknoller) August 30, 2020
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/08/29/trump-will-reportedly-travel-to-kenosha-wisconsin-on-tuesday-joe-walsh-says-biden-campaign-blew-it/

Cue the MSM spin machine
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #84 on: September 02, 2020, 07:06:44 PM »
This kinda makes this whole debacle just a little bit better. The crying Commander:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/wisconsin-antifa-commander-flamethrower-tears-fetal-position-arrest
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #85 on: September 02, 2020, 07:22:10 PM »
Wisconsin governor tells Trump planned Kenosha visit ‘will only hinder our healing’
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/trump-to-visit-kenosha-wisconsin-on-tuesday.html

Trump Makes Controversial Trip To Kenosha Amid Civil Unrest, Meets With Local Law Enforcement
https://www.ibtimes.com/trump-makes-controversial-trip-kenosha-amid-civil-unrest-meets-local-law-enforcement-3038414

Joe Biden to visit Kenosha on Thursday
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/02/joe-biden-to-visit-kenosha-wisconsin-on-thursday.html


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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #86 on: September 02, 2020, 07:24:59 PM »

I don't know if Trump is playing 3D chess, but he is a step ahead of Biden.

Knowing what year it is puts you a step ahead of Biden
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #87 on: September 02, 2020, 08:14:23 PM »
Knowing what year planet it is puts you a step ahead of Biden

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #88 on: September 02, 2020, 08:16:28 PM »
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2020, 08:16:49 PM »

Disney World   :old:
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2020, 08:20:44 PM »
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2020, 09:38:01 PM »
The alleged killer in the Portland shooting gave an interview to Vice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhlxT9OrBIE

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2020, 10:08:42 PM »
The alleged killer in the Portland shooting gave an interview to Vice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhlxT9OrBIE



Interesting question from the comments:

Vice tracked this guy down but the cops haven't?
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2020, 11:21:30 PM »
Interesting question from the comments:

Vice tracked this guy down but the cops haven't?

This is a large part of the problem, the government and police have failed the people and in many cases are working against us.


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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2020, 11:23:29 PM »
Interesting question from the comments:

Vice tracked this guy down but the cops haven't?

That's not surprising. The media always seem to be around criminal activity in order to get it on video, while the police are always elsewhere or waiting for backup. This has been the case since at least the 80s, when everyone was watching live on video the LA bank robbers shootout, meanwhile somehow the cops can't take the guys out, while the news cameras seem to be able to get them on plain video just fine.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #96 on: September 04, 2020, 12:03:10 AM »
It's also Vice, so I wouldn't be to surprised to find out they have connections to find out who.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #97 on: September 04, 2020, 12:08:02 AM »
... aaaaaaand he's dead:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/michael-reinoehl-arrest-portland-shooting.html

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SEATTLE — A man being investigated in the fatal shooting of a right-wing activist who was part of a pro-Trump caravan in Portland, Ore., was killed on Thursday night when authorities moved to arrest him, according to three law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.

The officials said the suspect, Michael Forest Reinoehl, 48, was killed during the encounter in Lacey, Wash., southwest of Seattle, when a federal fugitive task force moved to apprehend him.
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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #98 on: September 04, 2020, 02:24:40 AM »
... aaaaaaand he's dead:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/us/michael-reinoehl-arrest-portland-shooting.html


Wonderful.

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On July 5 during the protests, Mr. Reinoehl was charged with resisting arrest and possession of a loaded firearm, but the case was later dropped.
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A few days later, authorities in eastern Oregon reported that Mr. Reinoehl was apparently racing his 17-year-old son as the two were driving in separate vehicles at over 100 miles per hour. Among other violations, authorities cited Mr. Reinoehl with driving under the influence, unlawful possession of a firearm and driving while uninsured.

So, two previous arrests for firearms violations, but he was free to go to a demonstration -- armed -- and kill someone.

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Re: Police shooting in Kenosha Wisconsin
« Reply #99 on: September 04, 2020, 08:36:25 AM »
I guess Portland should brace for an uptick in violence.

In preparation for that, the Governor once again came out and angrily said that the white supremacy and right wing violence occurring in Portland must stop.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/oregon-governor-calls-out-white-supremacists-vigilantes-while-demanding-end-to-portland-violence


And back to Kenosha, Discover has blocked all transactions going to the Rittenhouse crowdfunding site. They claim it is purely operational, but considering nobody seems to be able to keep a funding site for him from being blocked, it's a little suspicious to me. If it is a "social" decision, I'm generally lazy about boycotts, but Discover would be an easy card for me to shred if I had one.  If this was political, I think they hurt themselves.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/discover-blocks-donations-to-site-raising-money-for-kyle-rittenhouse-defense
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