Where do you place the odds of a 50 state sweep by Trump?

[just Warren]

I already think he's going to win in a landslide and given what people are seeing from the left and the fact that blacks are not happy with the "defund the police" movement and therefore could vote for Trump despite not liking much else about him could swing the vote sufficient for Trump to win states that would usually be considered safely blue.

So I'm thinking he has at least a 50/50 chance of a sweep.

[WLJ]

Pretty much zero
If he won either California or NY I would be in total shock.
The rest of the west coast, Illinois, Connecticut, Massachusetts mostly in shock.

A 50 state sweep would glorious though

[Nick1911]

Near zero.

Our country hasn't been this ideologically and  politically divided in a long time.  I believe that there are many, many people who are very upset with the president and will vote for change.

[RocketMan]

Absolutely zero chance of a fifty state sweep.  In fact, I believe there is a very good chance Trump will lose.

[dogmush]

Zero.

Like Rocketman, I think Trump has a real chance at losing, but the signal to noise ratio in polls and media makes it hard to accurately guess either way.

[K Frame]

Zero.

No way does he carry California, New York, Maryland, or Hawaii.

[T.O.M.]

Agreed.  Cali, NY, and a few other Dem states will not go Trump.  I believe this could end up like 2016, with Trump winning the electoral college, but losing the popular vote.  I expect to hear cries to end the electoral college, and even a few dump congress critters to introduce bills to do so (only to learn after the fact that it doesn't work that way).  I believe that there will be a real media push to end the college, along the lines of "make your vote actually count".  Whether it gets enough support to move forward, I doubt it.

[Ron]

Even with the presupposition that we actually have elections with accurate vote counts I say no chance.

Illinois doesn't have accurate vote counts. Chicago always has tailored numbers to make sure the vote supports the left.

I suspect Cali, NY and some other states are the same, the votes have been rigged and manipulated for decades.

The Trump Team is fighting a well oiled, well funded machine that just about had seized permanent control.

Here in northern Illinois he is hated by probably half the people, a malicious, vitriolic hatred. Even the Trump supporters don't support Trump per se but support some of his policies and are just scared to death of the looney leftists enough to vote for Orange Man Bad. Some of the most pro Trump comments I've heard have been from minority folks oddly enough. Of course they are immune to the withering attacks on whiteness and white privilege so they are free to speak their mind. 

I'm in the 50/50 camp about Trump being able to win again.

[lupinus]

Absolutely freaking zero

I'm not even convinced at this point he will win.

[Ben]

Zero. I would say the same if someone asked the chances of a Dem 50 state win. Though sadly, I think there are fewer states that would block a dem sweep than states that would block an R sweep.

California alone, will likely never again be an R win. Especially with the illegal voting.

[Boomhauer]

Do you know why the riots continue in Portland and similar cities? Because the voters in those areas support wholeheartedly.

Zero chance of carrying 50 states. If the Dems are able to pull off their bullshit about mail in voting, then he will definitely lose too.

[WLJ]

And if he does win expect the media/libs/dems/protesters to turn the crazy dial way pass 11

[RoadKingLarry]

The odds of a 50 state sweep? less than zero.

I also don't think a Trump win is a sure bet. The election fraud we are going to see this year will make even the worst 3rd world banana republic sham election look downright saintly. I suspect we will not know the winner for weeks or months after the election and it will likely end up in the SCOTUS for resolution.

Either way it turns out this great experiment of the American Republic will be finished. If Trump wins the temper tantrum from the left will make the current social unrest look like a prayer circle. If the left take control the celebratory riots will not look all that different and the implementation of the democrat agenda will destroy what is left of this country.

Either way, keep your head on a swivel and keep your powder dry.

 

[Perd Hapley]

How can he possibly win? He's already lost the massive white nationalist voting block.

I plan to vote for Biden and a straight democratic ticket. It’s not based on “accelerationism” or anything like that; the liberals are clearly more competent people.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/08/24/the-perfect-match-richard-spencer-yes-that-guy-says-hes-team-biden-and-democrats-all-the-way-now-they-can-have-him/

[MechAg94]

I thought I heard Washington and Oregon have gone to all mail-in voting.  Do you think that vote will swing to Trump? 

[Ben]

I thought I heard Washington and Oregon have gone to all mail-in voting.  Do you think that vote will swing to Trump? 

Basically the whole West Coast plus Hawaii are lost, at least for the foreseeable future. The more I read, the more it seems OR and WA are actually going harder left than CA, despite their very conservative interiors.

[MechAg94]

As far as sweeping Democrat states?  I remember the shear number of votes that were counted in LA county and New York City during the 2016 election.  I think there will be something similar this time.  It would take a great deal of shift in voting patterns to change the state-wide vote in those cities.

Also, I think there are liberals and minorities who are upset with the Democrats embracing the riots, but I have no idea how many.  

[MechAg94]

Basically the whole West Coast plus Hawaii are lost, at least for the foreseeable future. The more I read, the more it seems OR and WA are actually going harder left than CA, despite their very conservative interiors.

Do you think events of the last 6 months have changed anyone's minds?  A lot of suburbanites in those West Coast cities have been scared rioting was coming out to their neighborhoods.  The local Democrat politicians weren't a lot of helps at least from my view. 

It may not matter since sometimes people are just stupid.  Also, the R alternative there might just suck worse. 

[TommyGunn]

I think Trump will be reelected,   but THERE IS NO WAY FOR HIM TO GO TO A SWEEPING VICTORY A LA REAGAN IN 1984.  It's also possible there will be a repeat of 2016 where the popular vote goes to Biden but Trump gets the electoral college majority.  
It's going to be close however it goes down.

[WLJ]

Do you think events of the last 6 months have changed anyone's minds?  A lot of suburbanites in those West Coast cities have been scared rioting was coming out to their neighborhoods.  The local Democrat politicians weren't a lot of helps at least from my view.  

It may not matter since sometimes people are just stupid.  Also, the R alternative there might just suck worse.  

Maybe some but I fear most have been conditioned by years of school and the media to think that there is only one solution to any problem and that is liberalism and if that fails more liberalism. Anything else would be crazy.

[K Frame]

The only two electoral college sweeps were George Washington's two terms.

James Monroe got 231 out of 232 in 1820; supposedly the one elector who dissented did so to preserve George Washington's unanimous election.

The closest to a sweep in my lifetime was in 1984 when Ronald Reagan took 523 of 531.

The 13 electoral votes Mondale got were in his home state of Minnesota, which he won by 0.18% of the total vote, and Washington, DC, where Mondale got almost 86% of the vote. Since then, it has NOT gotten any better for Republicans in DC.

If the Gipper couldn't pull off a sweep in 1984 against Mondale... well, you do the math.

[K Frame]

More than a few people I know think that no matter what happens, this election is going to be going to the courts.

It's funny as hell that there's a cartoon out right now where Trump is shown as a football coach outlining his strategy on a chalboard for his GOP team; one word on the board -- CHEAT.

Morons are passing that around whining like mad, thinking that the Democratic party somehow is pure as driven snow. The only reason the Dems started screeching about Republican "cheating" is because the Republicans finally started using some of the same tactics that the Dems have used for decades.

[HankB]

. . . The election fraud we are going to see this year will make even the worst 3rd world banana republic sham election look downright saintly . . .

QFT. 

[Ben]

Do you think events of the last 6 months have changed anyone's minds?  A lot of suburbanites in those West Coast cities have been scared rioting was coming out to their neighborhoods.  The local Democrat politicians weren't a lot of helps at least from my view. 

It may not matter since sometimes people are just stupid.  Also, the R alternative there might just suck worse. 

I can't speak to OR and WA, but after 58 years as a Californian, any changing of minds there will be to such a small degree that it won't matter. The entire coast there is brainwashed. There might be CA liberals buying guns for the first time right now because they are afraid of losing police, but they will still hate the police, whether they are antifa terrorists or six figure dual income Prius drivers who need to say the right things at the wine and cheese parties.

I have only to read the old hometown newspaper there to see how absolutely closed-minded they are. If their houses are burnded down by antifa, it will still be because of Trump.

[Perd Hapley]

I keep watching clips from "Rising," w/ Sagaar Enjetti and Krystal Ball (sp?), and they keep pushing the idea that progressives and leftists have been pushed out of the Dem party. Wall Street-friendly "Neo-Liberals" have taken over. They think Biden and Harris are centrists.