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Trump and France
« on: September 04, 2020, 10:17:58 AM »
I distinctly remember when this was first covered that the visit to the cemetery in France was canceled due to weather. I also remember the outrage then was that Trump was disrespecting soldiers because he didn't want to get wet.

Now the story is that he called our dead soldiers losers and didn't want to visit a cemetery full of losers. Anonymous sources of course, refuted by multiple NAMED sources, including John Bolton, who is no pal of Trump's.

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/09/04/it-passes-every-smell-test-firefighters-trust-the-atlantics-jeffrey-goldberg-because-they-hate-trump-and-need-super-sketchy-story-to-be-true/

In retaliation, the left counters with more anonymous sources to prove their point. Even Brian Stetler is now saying they need to name names.

IMO, these anonymous sources have little to fear coming forward. If they are part of the Trump admin and get canned, my guess is that multiple left wing orgs (including the MSM) will offer them high paying jobs, whether they are liars or not.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2020, 10:43:26 AM »
I have to wonder (as in the state of being in awe, not as in I'm confused) at the amazing short-sightedness of the left.

The media is absolutely destroying its credibility. It had very little with the right, already, but the sheer brazenness of the lies and corruption is turning off people who formerly trusted them. All in an attempt to GET ORANGEMANBAD.

Even worse (for them), it's not working. The only thing they are doing is losing trust and turning people MORE towards Trump.

I really am amazed at how they can be this foolish.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2020, 10:47:24 AM »
Quote from: makattak on September 04, 2020, 10:43:26 AM
I have to wonder (as in the state of being in awe, not as in I'm confused) at the amazing short-sightedness of the left.

The media is absolutely destroying its credibility. It had very little with the right, already, but the sheer brazenness of the lies and corruption is turning off people who formerly trusted them. All in an attempt to GET ORANGEMANBAD.

Even worse (for them), it's not working. The only thing they are doing is losing trust and turning people MORE towards Trump.

I really am amazed at how they can be this foolish.

Because they only listen to their base, they're the only ones who has an opinion that matters, and their base laps this stuff up.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2020, 11:39:54 AM »
I guess their base is their fellow left wing journalists and commentators on their left wing websites. 
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2020, 11:50:33 AM »
Quote from: MechAg94 on September 04, 2020, 11:39:54 AM
I guess their base is their fellow left wing journalists and commentators on their left wing websites. 

I'm using the term base very broadly, so yes.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2020, 06:34:40 PM »
Even Fox News is using anonymous sources.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/09/04/fox-news-jennifer-griffin-confirms-parts-of-the-atlantic-story-on-president-trump-with-two-more-anonymous-sources/

Reading through the thread there, I can actually see Trump saying some of that stuff, like, "Why do people join the military?" Or, "Why do I have to go to two cemeteries?" That sounds very Trump-like. I still can't see the "dead soldiers are losers" thing though. Even unfiltered Trump has to know that is a self-inflicted political bullet to the foot.

My bet is that between these "anonymous sources" and the MSM, the "losers" comment is completely out of context. Like maybe he was disparaging the French, and someone decided to associate that with US soldiers buried at the cemetery.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2020, 08:53:31 PM »
Quote from: Ben on September 04, 2020, 06:34:40 PM
Even Fox News is using anonymous sources.

Fox News is no friend of the right/conservatives/republicans.  Maybe they were at one time, but not today.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2020, 09:24:17 PM »
Steve Jobs widower owns a majority share in The Atlantic and has donated millions to Democrat campaigns.

Ridiculous hit piece.

The story has been put out by losers and only suckers believe it  ;)
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2020, 10:57:06 PM »
I have to note something here. We have multiple outlets all confirming from "anonymous sources."

IF you keep them anonymous, for all we know (and I'm more than certain) every outlet simply asked the same lying weasel.

Which is, of course, why you don't use anonymous sources.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2020, 12:25:52 AM »
There were losers and suckers on both sides, part two, electoral boogaloo.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2020, 06:47:00 PM »
Bolton and Trump are not buddies.  Less than buddies actually.  Bolton said he was there and Trump said NO such thing.  That statement by itself crushes the BS story.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2020, 09:29:49 PM »
I was at the laundry mat and thus forced to overhear CNN.

It feels like the media knows they F'd things up by inciting riots and that the Russia crap backfired hugely on them and now they're grasping at straws.
And since They think people who join the military are stupid losers, especially the rank and file, this is their great plan to destroy one of Trump's larger voting base.

It's so transparent and stupid, it didn't even make me cranky. It just made me go "wow" in a very underwhelmed kind of way.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2020, 11:23:36 PM »
Next week maybe the CBS news anchor will break a story using forged documents from a dead man to turn the electorate against Trump . . .
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2020, 07:39:47 AM »
A story by losers only suckers believe.
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Re: Trump and France
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2020, 10:07:15 AM »
It isn't even October yet.
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