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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2020, 05:56:00 PM »

Libertarian Party Reminds Americans They Can Actually Choose Lesser Of Three Evils

https://babylonbee.com/news/libertarians-remind-americans-they-can-actually-choose-lesser-of-three-evils/?utm_content=buffer25ccc&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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Many conservatives have reportedly taken the Libertarian Party's message to heart, choosing to vote for the least of three evils: Trump.
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« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2020, 10:29:23 AM »

Trump Agrees To FOUR HOUR Biden Debate Hosted By Joe Rogan
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/trump-agrees-to-four-hour-biden-debate-hosted-by-joe-rogan/

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Kennedy’s tweet read: “On my podcast with @joerogan he offered to moderate a debate between @JoeBiden and @realDonaldTrump It would be four hours with no live audience. Just the two candidates, cameras, and their vision of how to move this country forward. Who wants this? #debates #Election2020”

 Trump responded on twitter "I do!".  No response from the Biden campaign.
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« Reply #27 on: September 14, 2020, 01:43:26 PM »

The only yard signs I have seen have read "Jesus 2020." 
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« Reply #28 on: September 14, 2020, 05:21:54 PM »

The only yard signs I have seen have read "Jesus 2020." 
Does that mean they are for Christ or is it some form of expletive?
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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2020, 07:43:46 AM »

Ignoring some of the typical opinion slant in this piece, it does make some excellent points.
both sides need reminding of the lesson of 1884 — and a core tenet of the American electoral system: Not every defect in the voting process renders an election invalid. Now, perhaps more than ever — with all the uncertainty that the pandemic brings to the election this fall — we must draw a bright line between a flawed election and one that has truly failed. A flawed election is not ideal, but its results still should be accepted, unlike in a failed election, which does not represent the choice of the voters.

There are two key points to understand here in the context of the current election. First, disinformation, even by ill-willed foreign adversaries, does not, in itself, invalidate an election. Second, disenfranchisement, as abhorrent as it is, invalidates an election only when it exists on a scale large enough to affect the election’s outcome. What matters isn’t whether the process was perfect, but whether the democratic will of the people was served.

All elections have flaws. And in today’s environment of mistrust, it’s easy for politicians to exploit those flaws to cast doubt on the whole result. When problems inevitably arise this fall — and when the two sides inevitably raise objections — then the loser, the loser’s party and the American people need to be prepared to know whether there truly is cause for some kind of recount or “redo,” or whether to accept the electoral verdict and move on.

I guess the big question is how flawed can an election be and still be "valid". I also think way too much focus is on the presidential candidates/campaigns when all the action happens with your local municipal clerks and state elections officials. That's where the trust needs to be.
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2020, 07:54:28 AM »

Ignoring some of the typical opinion slant in this piece, it does make some excellent points.
I guess the big question is how flawed can an election be and still be "valid". I also think way too much focus is on the presidential candidates/campaigns when all the action happens with your local municipal clerks and state elections officials. That's where the trust needs to be.

A subset of that is how long do you give to decide if an election is flawed or not? A week? A month? A year? That will be especially relevant this year with "waiting for all the mail-in ballots".

I really wish they would make some kind of national deadline (for national elections) that mail-in/absentee ballots must all be postmarked by "X" time that is at least a week prior to Election Day. Also, no "bags of ballots in the trunk". Your ballot gets mailed to your county. So mail it yourself, don't hand it off to random groups that want to "get out the vote". Put it in the damn mailbox, and no more forgotten bags of ballots that only show up later, after the "wrong" guy loses on Election Day.
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2020, 08:21:41 AM »

A subset of that is how long do you give to decide if an election is flawed or not? A week? A month? A year? That will be especially relevant this year with "waiting for all the mail-in ballots".
There are deadlines for when the states need to certify their results and their electors meet.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/5
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/7

There are some battleground states with laws saying clerks can't do anything to begin processing mail/absentee ballots until election day. That makes sense for having poll watchers to keep an eye on things but it also means it could legitimately take a long time. That has traditionally been my small volunteer contribution on election day - opening ballot envelopes at the clerks office and I expect the only difference this year is that it will take much longer than a half day.  undecided
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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2020, 08:35:40 PM »

Gay men jumping on the Trump train.

45% of gay men who are both registered and will vote is probably a very small amount of votes but it's funny that another group the Dems thought they owned is deserting them.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2020, 09:50:11 PM »

True. Sending someone is easy. Getting them back, not so much.

And the Mas thing would have to have been set in motion before now. That's a long trip requiring a long prep time and I have not noticed such in the works.

Uhh no.  Both are actually quite hard.  And from a delta-V standpoint getting home is only a quarter as difficult.  grin
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« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2020, 02:14:51 PM »

The "Trump Road Rally 2.0" is scheduled to kick off this Sunday at 3:00 PM at LP Frans Stadium just over the hill about a half mile away from my house.  The road rally will follow a 61 mile course through four different counties, finishing up in Wilkes County at the U.S. Highway 412/Interstate 77 interchange.
This is the first local rally I've heard of, though I don't look at local news all that much.  The first road rally August supposedly attracted 600 vehicles.

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« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2020, 03:39:52 PM »

Gay men jumping on the Trump train.

45% of gay men who are both registered and will vote is probably a very small amount of votes but it's funny that another group the Dems thought they owned is deserting them.


Is anyone else reminded of the complaints that Buttij-g? Mayor Pete and his "husband" were so vanilla they didn't really even qualify as "gay"? Sounds like these guys are getting their gay cards revoked, too.
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« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2020, 04:02:31 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2020, 08:29:11 PM »

Biden voter attacks elderly Trump rally-goers.

With supporters like this how can Biden possibly lose?
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« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2020, 04:25:05 AM »

So even far left outlets like Politico let CNN have it for their democrat filled, softball Town Hall with Biden, which followed an "attack hall" by ABC with Trump. A few points from the CNN campaign rally:

Biden claims that Trump is responsible for every single covid death in the US. Which would infer that if Biden were President, there would not have been a single covid death. I guess the sheep might buy that.

Both Biden and Anderson Cooper made a big deal about social distancing (in fact it was a "drive-in" Town Hall). However, they were caught, when they thought they were on a commercial break, with Biden whispering in Cooper's ear. Some social distancing.

One of the questioner's told Biden that when she looked past her Biden yard sign, all she could see was a sea of Trump signs.  laugh


https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-town-hall-panned-for-softball-questions-for-biden
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« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2020, 04:44:59 AM »

He wasn't whisphering he was sniffing his hair.
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« Reply #40 on: September 18, 2020, 10:35:08 AM »

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« Reply #41 on: September 18, 2020, 12:49:04 PM »

Biden's unpopularity with hispanics is Trump's fault. 

Washington Post. Journalism dies in darkness.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/09/18/wapo-op-ed-lets-joe-biden-know-who-to-blame-for-his-weakness-among-hispanics-just-guess/
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« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2020, 01:28:27 PM »

https://amgreatness.com/2020/09/17/trump-hate-is-not-enough/

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I have railed in this and in other outlets many times in recent months against what I have described as a pantomime horse of the Democratic campaign conducted by a “decayed servitor, a waxworks dummy . . . following the science” by hiding in the catacombs of his Delaware home and giving minimum access to docile journalists and practically no authentic members of the public. It must be said that the Democratic Party elders who resuscitated the political corpses of the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris presidential nomination candidacies have performed a political miracle by keeping this ramshackle imposture in serious contention....

Perhaps the novel concept of “super-storms,” (which Biden’s election would banish like a halcyon before they arose) would replace the growing public concern about the urban guerrillas with whom the Democratic Party played footsie all summer. One of my very learned readers, a scientist in Mobile, Alabama who would be happy to adhere to the Biden counsel to “follow the science,” wrote to me on Monday night that he had to stock .38 caliber ammunition from a pawnshop because the normal emporia were sold out. He added that “the fact that the general public is opposed to being murdered by the friskier elements of the Democratic base seems to have eluded the nominee’s political consultants.”
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« Reply #43 on: September 21, 2020, 01:13:37 PM »

If this ruling stands then Wisconsin won't have a result until a week after election day.
Conley ruled that absentee ballots would be counted if they are postmarked by Nov. 3 — election day — and received by clerks by Nov. 9.
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2020, 04:15:33 PM »

Well, Bloomberg is doing his part:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote
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