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Question: What will win the presidency in 2020?
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« Reply #75 on: October 12, 2020, 12:48:16 PM »

That's an insult to Hell.

The denizens of the infernal reaches are not going to be happy with the comparison.
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« Reply #76 on: October 12, 2020, 01:26:12 PM »

People are disinfecting their ballots and ruining them. And the ballot cannot be counted.

https://www.kcra.com/article/election-officials-ask-voters-stop-disinfecting-mail-in-ballots/34336823

The thing is that election officials are sending new ballots out. I say no. You had your chance to vote and you messed it up. No do-overs.

Since most mail-in voters are Dems and Dems are overwhelmingly panicked by Covid we should encourage people to disinfect their ballots.

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« Reply #77 on: October 12, 2020, 02:18:35 PM »

Another reason Trump won't win the election:  It's 2020.  Nothing happens according to plan in 2020.
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« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2020, 02:38:34 PM »

Caucasians are pretty solidified


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« Reply #79 on: October 12, 2020, 08:34:17 PM »


And people think he can't be succinct.  grin
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« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2020, 05:50:11 AM »

Trump CAN win, whether or not he WILL win, remains up for debate.

Trump's grip on how he is perceived seems tenuous at best. There have been many "self owns" as the kids see.

We'll see. I'm trying not to be emotionally invested. It's just not worth it. Not this year.
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« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2020, 06:21:01 AM »

Another reason Trump won't win the election:  It's 2020.  Nothing happens according to plan in 2020.

I thought the plan was for Trump to lose though?   Huh?

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« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2020, 09:27:16 AM »

One of my really liberal friends just posted a Trump/Pence 2020 image on their facebook page. Other Democrats started to challenge it. She replied...

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« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2020, 09:39:25 AM »

One of my really liberal friends just posted a Trump/Pence 2020 image on their facebook page. Other Democrats started to challenge it. She replied...


She's about to get cancelled by her "friends".
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« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2020, 09:42:04 AM »

Guilty of Wrong Think.
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« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2020, 10:51:07 AM »

https://www.newsweek.com/more-voters-better-off-donald-trump-first-term-obama-bush-1537759
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The latest survey from Gallup found that a clear majority of registered voters (56 percent) believed they were better off now compared to four years ago.



https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/gallup-poll-better-off-donald-trump/index.html
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But here's the thing that both Trump and his campaign seem to miss: It is an incredibly damning indictment of Trump personally that, in a country where a majority of the people believe they are better off than they were four years ago, the incumbent President is currently losing badly in his bid for a second term.
That is a good question.  Inconsistent with past elections.
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« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2020, 11:10:15 AM »

She's about to get cancelled by her "friends".

probably a couple, most of them I know, they may be liberal but they also respect differing opinions.
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« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2020, 01:00:40 PM »

https://www.newsweek.com/more-voters-better-off-donald-trump-first-term-obama-bush-1537759


https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/politics/gallup-poll-better-off-donald-trump/index.html

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But here's the thing that both Trump and his campaign seem to miss: It is an incredibly damning indictment of Trump personally that, in a country where a majority of the people believe they are better off than they were four years ago, the incumbent President is currently losing badly in his bid for a second term.

That is a good question.  Inconsistent with past elections.


This guy points out that the poll methodology is flawed. The Rasmussen poll that has Biden up 12% nationally, for some reason, has Trump only winning 76% of Republican voters. When his approval rating amongst Rs is 87%.  (And remember he got 94% of R votes in the primary.)

https://www.theblaze.com/steve-deace/polls?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

As this fellow says, if you look at everything other than the polls you would assume the President is going to win easily. All the metrics are on his side. The only things that say he is going to lose is the polls themselves.
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« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2020, 01:04:46 PM »

The only things that say he is going to lose is the polls themselves.

Which the dems will use as one of their "facts" that proves election fraud if he wins
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« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2020, 01:16:21 PM »

That is a good question.  Inconsistent with past elections.



This guy points out that the poll methodology is flawed. The Rasmussen poll that has Biden up 12% nationally, for some reason, has Trump only winning 76% of Republican voters. When his approval rating amongst Rs is 87%.  (And remember he got 94% of R votes in the primary.)

https://www.theblaze.com/steve-deace/polls?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1

As this fellow says, if you look at everything other than the polls you would assume the President is going to win easily. All the metrics are on his side. The only things that say he is going to lose is the polls themselves.

I've read many articles where pollsters are expressing frustration that people are either refusing to answer questions or not being honest in their answers. 

At this point I don't feel that political polls can be relied upon with any margin of accuracy. 
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« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2020, 02:27:52 PM »

Pro-Trump flotilla of 40 boats sailing in ... San Francisco Bay???

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/10/13/watch-nearly-150-join-pro-trump-boat-parade-san-francisco-bay/
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« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2020, 09:23:44 AM »

Fivethirtyeight just did a poll of pollsters. It has some interesting bits about what adjustments they've made and some pretty confident pollsters.
plenty of pollsters, including Jensen and Gary Langer of Langer Research, the primary pollster for ABC News/Washington Post, also said that this year’s polling wasn’t really keeping them up at night. “I feel pretty good about the polling in 2020 largely because the polling was so accurate in 2018, and I believe we are still fundamentally in the same political climate that we were then,” Jensen said. “The low level of undecideds in the presidential race also greatly reduces the chances of a dramatic late shift in the numbers.”

Suffolk’s Paleologos pointed to the fact that national polls were actually quite accurate in 2016 and that the states with the biggest polling errors were not polled by high-quality pollsters in the final week of the campaign; if they had been, perhaps we’d have seen Trump’s win coming. By contrast, “there is more polling in battleground states this year, and that is especially true for some of the Upper Midwest states that proved decisive in 2016,” said Pew’s Kennedy. “There has also been an uptick in the volume of state polling done by major, reputable polling organizations that use more rigorous methods.”

I still think the numbers on election day will be much closer than polls currently show.
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« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2020, 01:11:55 PM »

Lubbock had record Day 1 early voting in the 2016 pres election (8248 votes). This year's Day 1 numbers bested that by more than 25% (10,473 votes).

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« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2020, 05:05:57 PM »

One of my really liberal friends just posted a Trump/Pence 2020 image on their facebook page. Other Democrats started to challenge it. She replied...


Good for her!
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« Reply #94 on: October 15, 2020, 01:25:00 PM »

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/10/15/they-cant-handle-the-truth-ice-cube-says-cnn-canceled-scheduled-interview-after-news-that-hes-been-working-with-trump/
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« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2020, 04:38:07 PM »

The way I've heard it is that folks voting for Pres Trump should do so early.  I believe that once a candidate has 51% of a state's registered voters he is declared the winner of that state ...
Let the counting go on forever ... 51% of the registered voters = winner ... no idea if this is accurate though it does make sense.
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« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2020, 05:05:30 PM »

Vote early, vote often.

Due to the anticipated heavy voter turnout voting has been extended to two days. Republicans vote on Tuesday, democrats vote on Wednesday.
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« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2020, 05:48:02 PM »

I've read many articles where pollsters are expressing frustration that people are either refusing to answer questions or not being honest in their answers. 

At this point I don't feel that political polls can be relied upon with any margin of accuracy. 

I've had three different political poll calls in the last ten days. I told them all that I never discuss politics, and then I hung up.
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