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« on: October 08, 2020, 12:04:33 PM »

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921655143/militia-members-plotted-to-abduct-michigan-gov-whitmer-fbi-says

And target police officers and officials while you are at it.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 12:47:32 PM »

This guy tracked down a youtube channel of one of the arrested.

https://mobile.twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1314267058339819520
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2020, 01:00:59 PM »

Perhaps I am giving too much credit from seeing too many movies and reading too many books, but I would assume that these sort of plots are penetrated by the FBI or others.  But then again Tim McVeigh pulled it off so maybe I am giving too much credit.
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2020, 01:02:27 PM »

Perhaps I am giving too much credit from seeing too many movies and reading too many books, but I would assume that these sort of plots are penetrated by the FBI or others.  But then again Tim McVeigh pulled it off so maybe I am giving too much credit.

The difference is intelligence and opsec. They need to be smart enough to shut their pie hole.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2020, 01:10:06 PM »

The article I read indicated at least one paid informant and I think they had someone who penetrated the group.

I could be wrong, it may have been the same guy (the paid informant).
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2020, 01:41:21 PM »

One guy, Fox,  lives here in Grand Rapids.  The local media is breathlessly reporting that he, OMG, HAS 3 GUNS AND AMMO FOR THEM!!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2020, 03:31:53 PM »

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   I wonder where they got their motivation from. https://t.co/Sqw8k80SNY pic.twitter.com/mhdSMElz5F

     Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) October 8, 2020
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/10/08/reality-checks-trip-up-rep-rashida-tlaibs-attempt-to-tie-trump-to-thwarted-plot-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-whitmer/

Hmmm, I wonder who she has in mind
Lets see
https://twitter.com/RashidaTlaib/status/1314269356021424133?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2020, 03:48:26 PM »

One guy, Fox,  lives here in Grand Rapids.  The local media is breathlessly reporting that he, OMG, HAS 3 GUNS AND AMMO FOR THEM!!!!!!!


OMG!!!!

Ammu-NI-tion? That's just HORRIBLE!
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2020, 03:52:57 PM »

The difference is intelligence and opsec. They need to be smart enough to shut their pie hole.

Yea .... don't use 55 year old MAN FROM UNCLE SECRET DECODER RINGS to communicate.   Apparently facebook.... or twitter, one of the social innernetz sites,  reported them.     
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2020, 04:29:15 PM »

My guess is that the undercover FBI dudes that infiltrated the group were the ones that came up with the idea and the plans to implement it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2020, 04:30:22 PM »

OMG!!!!

Ammu-NI-tion? That's just HORRIBLE!

Sometimes I imagine what the media would have to say about my meager collection of arms and ammo  Evil
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2020, 04:35:20 PM »

Remember one story where they were in full panic mode over the guy's HUUUUGE ammo stash "Hundreds of Bullets!" Photo showed a brick of 22s.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2020, 05:01:36 PM »

To borrow a line from a friend...some people are taking this Ohio State v. Michigan thing entirely too far.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2020, 05:03:35 PM »

Biden and the Governor are blaming Trump.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2020, 05:39:58 PM »

Biden and the Governor are blaming Trump.

In other news, water may, in fact, be wet.
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2020, 06:23:26 PM »

In other news, water may, in fact, be wet.

How dare you assume it's state of matter?
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 06:52:06 PM »

These guys may more anarchists than anything else and thus anti govt in general, one of their videos had the anarchist flag in the background and the guy was very anti police.
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« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2020, 07:07:05 PM »

To borrow a line from a friend...some people are taking this Ohio State v. Michigan thing entirely too far.
In the old days they just went after mascots.  Going after Governors might be a bit much.
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« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 07:22:15 PM »

It's part of the playbook. The FLQ kidnapped and later killed a public official.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis


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« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2020, 10:27:25 PM »

My guess is that the undercover FBI dudes that infiltrated the group were the ones that came up with the idea and the plans to implement it.
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It would be consistent with their track record.
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« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 03:57:40 AM »

On the radio the straight news broadcast (on WLS) it was being framed as "militia", "white supremacists", "Trumps fault".

Fake news has to be the most brilliant and obvious meme ever.

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« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 06:42:49 AM »

These guys may more anarchists than anything else and thus anti govt in general, one of their videos had the anarchist flag in the background and the guy was very anti police.

I forgot tp provide a link to the video, sorry about that, but guess what popped up on Twitchy

Wow! This is big. Bombshell video proves 1 of the ringleaders arrested in plot to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is anti-Trump (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/10/09/wow-this-is-big-bombshell-video-proves-1-of-the-ringleaders-arrested-in-plot-to-kidnap-gov-gretchen-whitmer-is-anti-trump-watch/
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« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 08:05:28 AM »

I remember in the years immediately following the OKC bombing, someone suggested that all "militias" had essentially become government organizations since over half the members were government agents.
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« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 04:39:01 PM »

In the old days they just went after mascots.  Going after Governors might be a bit much.

If Michigan wants a reprisal shot at Dewine I'm fine with it.  Sort of like a penalty kick in soccer or something. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2020, 05:35:56 AM »

Instead of the booga loo we get the arrest of a "white supremacist militia" run by a an anti-fa type anarchist and paid government "informant".

   
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