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« on: October 10, 2020, 05:29:29 PM »

This time in Denver.

I feel we are at a tipping point here.

I've been cautioning against using violence for years here and in other fora but if antifa/BLM keeps this up there will be no stopping the reprisal purge.

And after that is there any way to keep the country together?
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2020, 05:55:31 PM »

The going to street rallies mess just plays to what the other side wants. Kenosha, Trumpies in Portland, never happen. Why show up if the rules of engagement are stand there and bleed or become an international media pariah. If we were past the tipping point you don't waste time with street soldiers.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 06:04:05 PM »

Apparently the homicide victim had pepper sprayed the shooter.  Being Denver, I wonder if the antifa shooter will actually be prosecuted?  A self-defense plea might work in this case given the current favor shown toward rioters in liberal cities.

Edited with new information:  Fox News is calling the shooter a "private security guard" with no affiliation to antifa.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/one-person-killed-protests-denver
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 06:10:17 PM »

Update:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/update-patriot-denver-reportedly-defending-bear-spray-two-men-shot-face-killed/

The dead man was defending himself with his spray and was shot by a private security guard supposedly not affiliated with antifa.

We'll probably find out that he is antifa/BLM to some extent. But even if we don't this murder still goes on antifa.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 06:41:39 PM »

It will be interesting to see, if the shooter gets bailed out, where the bail money comes from.
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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2020, 06:47:46 PM »

Update:

The shooter is said to have been the bodyguard of a local TV news reporter.

Why the Hell did he shoot then?

Was anyone attacking the reporter?

Antifa was celebrating in the streets and throwing soup cans at the police so yes they are terrorists and yes they are responsible for this murder as it's their actions that set the whole chain of events off.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2020, 06:55:06 PM »

The going to street rallies mess just plays to what the other side wants. Kenosha, Trumpies in Portland, never happen. Why show up if the rules of engagement are stand there and bleed or become an international media pariah. If we were past the tipping point you don't waste time with street soldiers.

Nailed it.

This is political violence which has the approval and support of local politicians.
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2020, 07:30:35 PM »

https://twitter.com/rustyyyyy69/status/1315077057286533120

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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2020, 07:30:33 AM »

Was it the Black Guns Matter guy that died?  If so he was definitely itching for a fight.  Just seemed he wanted to rumble, not get in a gun fight.  Still, not the brightest move.
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 07:46:54 AM »

Was it the Black Guns Matter guy that died?  If so he was definitely itching for a fight.  Just seemed he wanted to rumble, not get in a gun fight.  Still, not the brightest move.

No, it was the guy in the sleeveless shirt and boonie hat.
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« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 08:47:55 AM »

Looks like the shooter IS a lefty.

That makes him antifa adjacent at the very least.

The headline of the article says "long history" but all they show is membership in a group. We'll have to wait for more of his bio to see how deeply he is involved in lefty causes.
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« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2020, 08:48:38 AM »

Was it the Black Guns Matter guy that died?  If so he was definitely itching for a fight.  Just seemed he wanted to rumble, not get in a gun fight.  Still, not the brightest move.

I've seen a couple of tweets where folks think they've seen the BGM guy in pictures and videos of riots in different states.  The supposition is that he is a professional agitator for BLM/Antifa.
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« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2020, 09:24:50 AM »

I missed that there was a video at the bottom of the update.

Turns out the shooter does have a long history of leftist activism as he was at the Occupy protests back in 2012.

He also "stands" with BLM.

So yeah, lefty terrorist.
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« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2020, 10:36:23 AM »

  I did armed security for quite some time, plenty of armed guards are idiot leftwingers.
 I made some bad decisions when I did security, thank God no serious repercussions.
 Pinkerton will throw this guy under the bus, guards don't get paid admin leave.

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« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2020, 10:44:42 AM »

Tim Pool is saying the killer isn't antifa, and there's a difference between BLM and antifa.

But is there really?

The guy is definitely a Trump hater though.
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2020, 10:47:45 AM »

the shooter was not in uniform!  not sure about CO law, but in CA that would be totally illegal.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2020, 11:27:08 AM »

shooting partially caught on tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSpchpAN82A
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2020, 11:31:01 AM »

PT News digs a bit into what happened

https://youtu.be/cgxdsaKuq9I?t=281
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« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2020, 02:53:45 PM »

shooting partially caught on tape
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSpchpAN82A

That video is 4 hours of ranting, angry men.  Got a better video?  Or a time hack?
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« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2020, 03:03:37 PM »

https://newspunch.com/busted-denver-shooter-matthew-dolloffs-left-wing-facebook-posts/
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2020, 03:06:42 PM »

That video is 4 hours of ranting, angry men.  Got a better video?  Or a time hack?

2:20 to 2:40
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« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2020, 03:14:04 PM »

If Trump supporters were the deranged, violent, murderous thugs the left makes them out to be there should be quite a few less of the far left lunatics.
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« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2020, 04:10:58 PM »

Shooter's name cannot be found in security guard database.

Maybe different search terms or maybe there's another database he might be in.

If not then what is a news organization doing hiring an unlicensed person to provide security for them?

Who's idea was this?

The news station has said they've been hiring bodyguards for awhile now. Were the other people they hired also unlicensed?

They also admitted that the shooter was a contractor for them. I imagine that they have left themselves open to a massive lawsuit at the very least and maybe even criminal charges. Though I'll need a lawyer to pop in with their thoughts on the latter.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2020, 04:32:24 PM »

Two bets here.
1. He will make bail Monday.
2. The local DA will not prosecute.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2020, 03:00:54 AM »

Reading the stories about this indicates to me they are trying to figure out how to spin it still.

There is very little good information and a lot of obfuscation.

The story will get memory holed soon.
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