Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns

[MillCreek]

If Mr. Biden wins the election and is inaugurated in January 20, 2021, how long before the first executive order comes out regarding firearms?

[Jim147]

President Harris already has it written.

[charby]

  I'm more curious how We, the People, react than the states ....

I think you got to go deeper, we is easy to say. More like what would I do? I think one needs to ask themselves what would they personally do and is the risk worth the result.

To be honest I'm not going to give them bullets first if another AWB became law and I'm hoping others don't vote from the rooftop either. Probably lost more firearms/magazines in a tragic boating or smelting accident.

[dogmush]

Depends on the law that gets written, Charby.

An AWB that grandfathers existing weapons? Unconstitutional, but can probably be litigated in the courts.  There's enough small arms out there to sustain the spirit of the 2A while we try every peaceful remedy.

An AWB that doesn't grandfather and includes either confiscation or forced "buyback"?  That's time to start shooting folks who can't understand plain English.  Whether that is legislators, cops doing the confiscation, or both is a tactical consideration, not a moral one.

[Jim147]

Give it time in the courts first.

[Boomhauer]

He has already said he wants every semiauto NFA’d along with each high cap mag

[MillCreek]

^^^Can that be done solely via executive order, I wonder.

[RoadKingLarry]

^^^Can that be done solely via executive order, I wonder.

Apparently, all it takes is regulatory action by the ATF to reclassify existing legal weapons into NFA  weapons if we use very recent ATF actions as a guide.

[charby]

Apparently, all it takes is regulatory action by the ATF to reclassify existing legal weapons into NFA  weapons if we use very recent ATF actions as a guide.

That can be ordered via an executive order.

I think classifying any semi auto firearm to NFA status would get slapped down pretty quick by courts. Just think how many Remington 1100/1187 and Browning A-5 shotguns are out there, same with Ruger 10/22, etc. Most of the folks I bird hunt with all have a semi auto shotgun of some manufacturer.

[AZRedhawk44]

He has already said he wants every semiauto NFA’d along with each high cap mag

If a person's semiauto AR-15 is retroactively made into an NFA item, he might as well make it do all the neat things that NFA items do.

Penalty is the same for possession either way.  Making it fast and quiet now has no penalty for the owner.

[WLJ]

At this point I wouldn't put it pass them to state that since a semi-auto is capable of being converted to full then they're full. We talking about people who will tell you plumping has nothing to do with being a male or female here.

[charby]

If a person's semiauto AR-15 is retroactively made into an NFA item, he might as well make it do all the neat things that NFA items do.

Penalty is the same for possession either way.  Making it fast and quiet now has no penalty for the owner.

Hmmm, would that allow for new full auto firearms?

[French G.]

Depends on the law that gets written, Charby.

An AWB that grandfathers existing weapons? Unconstitutional, but can probably be litigated in the courts.  There's enough small arms out there to sustain the spirit of the 2A while we try every peaceful remedy.

An AWB that doesn't grandfather and includes either confiscation or forced "buyback"?  That's time to start shooting folks who can't understand plain English.  Whether that is legislators, cops doing the confiscation, or both is a tactical consideration, not a moral one.

Probably won’t be so easy and clear cut. Most of the guns will disappear but it will be generational gun banning. No talking about them, no rec shooting, no training youth. Some crazy old man who was always ranting about the government will die and his people will find a closer full of guns and an American flag. Boy, those old people sure were crazy...

[RocketMan]

Simple enough, all semi-autos will be banned.  Biden has alluded to such several times.

[Lennyjoe]

Simple enough, all semi-autos will be banned.  Biden has alluded to such several times.

Whew, glad I sold all of mine.....

[WLJ]

Coat Hook Loop Hope

Man Arrested for Selling Hundreds of 3D Printed Drop-In Auto Sear ‘Coat Hooks’
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/man-arrested-for-selling-hundreds-of-3d-printed-drop-in-auto-sear-coat-hooks/

[zxcvbob]

Hmmm, would that allow for new full auto firearms?

If everything is illegal, then nothing is.

[Jim147]

Remember a Ma Deuce didn't fall under the last AWB.

[T.O.M.]

Word is that there is a plan to try by legislation a new AWB.  This time, "assault weapon" will have a more encompassing definition.  The one I heard is a little frightening...a centerfire, semiautomatic firearm capable of holding 10 or more rounds.  And it would ban the manufacture, sale, and possession of assault weapons.  If true, the legislation would effectively ban all semiautomatic firearms which use a detachable magazine, because all detachable magazine firearms are capable of taking more than 10 rounds.  The other thing it would do is destroy a large portion of the small arms industry.  I don't imagine Glock and Beretta can survive on .gov contracts alone.

[Boomhauer]

Chris they learned from the last one on what not to do. They aren’t stupid.

[Angel Eyes]

Chris they learned from the last one on what not to do.

Maybe.

How many members of the 2021 Congress were in Congress when the 1994 AWB was passed?  Do they remember the political cost for the Democrats?

Certain members such as "the squad" are too young to remember, or don't care.

They aren’t stupid.

Some of them are not stupid.  Others ...

[charby]

Won't happen if GOP maintains Senate.

[Angel Eyes]

Won't happen if GOP maintains Senate.

True.  The Democrats introduce some flavor of AWB almost every year, and I expect 2021 will be no different.

[DittoHead]

Won't happen if GOP maintains Senate.

Yup. Without the senate, I don't think their attempts will go very far. The most I see happening is the ATF somehow coming down on 80%, 3D printing, "ghost gun" type stuff and even that will quickly end up in court. It also gets harder and harder to stop as technology progresses.

[Ben]

I tentatively disagree on the senate. It's going to be the slimmest of majorities this year - like 1 or 2. I can think of several Rs who would jump ship on the 2nd. They'll stand firm on stuff like taxes, but will gladly vote with Ds on "reasonable" gun control. Are there any Ds left who would support the 2nd? I'm thinking not.