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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #75 on: November 06, 2020, 01:30:41 PM »
Which countries in Europe are truly socialist and not just highly regulated and overtaxed.  Go ahead, count them up.  I'll wait.

Belarus?
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #76 on: November 06, 2020, 02:27:37 PM »
Which countries in Europe are truly socialist and not just highly regulated and overtaxed.  Go ahead, count them up.  I'll wait.
Meanwhile, have you not been listening to the Democrats?  They have made their intentions very clear.

Well, I disagree.  I think we will end up looking much more like the highly regulated and overtaxed European countries.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #77 on: November 06, 2020, 03:14:41 PM »
Well, I disagree.  I think we will end up looking much more like the highly regulated and overtaxed European countries.

I suppose it's possible that will be the case.  If it is though, it will only be a brief stopover on our way to a full authoritarian socialist government running this country.  My opinion, worth exactly what you paid for it.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #78 on: November 06, 2020, 10:12:41 PM »
Wish I had kept my Cap & Ball pistol now... :old:


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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #79 on: November 06, 2020, 11:28:07 PM »
. . . They'll start off like Canada or the Netherlands.  Venezuela won't happen for another 25 years when they spend the nation's credit away and have to start seizing property to appease creditors.
Depends on whether they will bide their time or get impatient and try to boil the frog immediately.

Note that even Rhodesia Zimbabwe didn't completely fall apart overnight when the barbarians took over. And even today, South Africa still has a semblance of civilization left.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #80 on: November 07, 2020, 12:38:02 PM »
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/how-liberal-gun-owners-see-2020-self-defense-is-self-care.html

Will the growing number of liberal gun owners moderate the new Administration? I wonder.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #81 on: November 07, 2020, 01:16:05 PM »
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/how-liberal-gun-owners-see-2020-self-defense-is-self-care.html

Will the growing number of liberal gun owners moderate the new Administration? I wonder.

Absolutely not. They have their guns now, and still strongly believe in "common sense gun control". We'll continue to hear the same old, "nobody is taking away your guns", and "The Second Amendment is not absolute and a living constitution allows for change."

No CA liberal who bought  a gun with a 10 round magazine is going to give a hoot about banning standard capacity magazines elsewhere.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #82 on: November 07, 2020, 01:16:23 PM »
The ammo shortage will now be permanent. Damn.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #83 on: November 07, 2020, 08:19:10 PM »
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/11/how-liberal-gun-owners-see-2020-self-defense-is-self-care.html

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Plenty of lefties liked guns before Trump became president, but the escalation of right-wing violence on top of a global pandemic has made things feel extra apocalyptic for a lot Americans in blue states.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #84 on: November 24, 2020, 06:06:31 PM »
I am most concerned right now with a ban on online sales of ammo.  I don't go through the amount of ammo and components that some here do, but I do online ammo sales for stuff that I simply cannot find locally.  It is not so much a matter of price as much as it is finding what I want on the shelves. Increasingly even before the current shortage, I cannot find it and go the online route.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #85 on: November 24, 2020, 07:18:28 PM »
My inside sources tell me that the stated intention is an AWB.  The unanswered question is how they will define "assault weapon."  Some rumors that it will be defined as a "semi-automatice firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds."  This makes me nervous.  First, if this is their definition, it may result in 9 round magazines, because a 10 round mag and a chambered round would be too much.  Second, I'm worried about the word "capable" that's being thrown around.  Any detachable magazine firearm is capable of holding any number of rounds, depending on the mag length.

Now, to flip this a bit, a lot of more centrist Dems have purchased guns in the last year.  So, I could imagine that coming into the discussion, so that a 10 round cap is brought back, and traditional handgun are excepted...for now.  After all Harris owns a handgun, right?
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #86 on: November 24, 2020, 07:44:49 PM »
My inside sources tell me that the stated intention is an AWB.  The unanswered question is how they will define "assault weapon."  Some rumors that it will be defined as a "semi-automatice firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds."  This makes me nervous.  First, if this is their definition, it may result in 9 round magazines, because a 10 round mag and a chambered round would be too much.  Second, I'm worried about the word "capable" that's being thrown around.  Any detachable magazine firearm is capable of holding any number of rounds, depending on the mag length.

Now, to flip this a bit, a lot of more centrist Dems have purchased guns in the last year.  So, I could imagine that coming into the discussion, so that a 10 round cap is brought back, and traditional handgun are excepted...for now.  After all Harris owns a handgun, right?


They want to ban all guns eventually.  Their language lacks specificy,  and gives rise to various interpretations.  This is deliberate.   
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #87 on: November 24, 2020, 08:02:26 PM »
My inside sources tell me that the stated intention is an AWB.  The unanswered question is how they will define "assault weapon."  Some rumors that it will be defined as a "semi-automatice firearm capable of holding more than 10 rounds."  This makes me nervous.  First, if this is their definition, it may result in 9 round magazines, because a 10 round mag and a chambered round would be too much.  Second, I'm worried about the word "capable" that's being thrown around.  Any detachable magazine firearm is capable of holding any number of rounds, depending on the mag length.

Now, to flip this a bit, a lot of more centrist Dems have purchased guns in the last year.  So, I could imagine that coming into the discussion, so that a 10 round cap is brought back, and traditional handgun are excepted...for now.  After all Harris owns a handgun, right?


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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #88 on: November 24, 2020, 08:08:32 PM »
They need a reminder of what happened the last time.
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« Reply #89 on: November 24, 2020, 08:30:14 PM »
They need a reminder of what happened the last time.

Of course that's a two to four year wait where, depending on state/local LE in a lot of places, you have to hide your gun if you don't want to pay for the stamp.

When  I bought my suppressors, the gun stores were adamant about making sure I keep a copy of the tax stamp with each can, always, for my own protection. Leads me to believe I wouldn't want to take a non-stamped rifle to the range in a lot of states if this passes.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #90 on: November 24, 2020, 08:52:28 PM »
I just did a little reading on Joes' plan for taxing firearms & magazines.  

There are more magazines headed my way.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #91 on: November 24, 2020, 08:59:47 PM »
Depends on whether they will bide their time or get impatient and try to boil the frog immediately.

Note that even Rhodesia Zimbabwe didn't completely fall apart overnight when the barbarians took over. And even today, South Africa still has a semblance of civilization left.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #92 on: November 24, 2020, 10:10:34 PM »
My prediction:  The Dems won't pass an AWB until after the SCOTUS has been packed.  And they have made it abundantly clear that they intend to pack the court.  I expect that to happen fairly early in 2021.
Once the SCOTUS has been packed, their new AWB will be safe from being overturned by the court.  More draconian gun control laws will follow shortly after the AWB.
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« Reply #93 on: November 24, 2020, 11:16:57 PM »
My prediction:  The Dems won't pass an AWB until after the SCOTUS has been packed.  And they have made it abundantly clear that they intend to pack the court.  I expect that to happen fairly early in 2021.
Once the SCOTUS has been packed, their new AWB will be safe from being overturned by the court.  More draconian gun control laws will follow shortly after the AWB.

All this depends on two Georgia races.  If the Repubs win,  resistance isn't futile.  If the Dems win,  resistance will be futile.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #94 on: November 25, 2020, 08:48:07 AM »
All this depends on two Georgia races.  If the Repubs win,  resistance isn't futile.  If the Dems win,  resistance will be futile.

The Democrats will win.  Georgia is using the same voting systems for the senatorial runoff election.
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #95 on: November 25, 2020, 09:33:41 AM »
The way I see it currently.

China doesn't like having an armed populace.

Our mass media/entertainment industry is either owned by or trying to curry China's favor.

A not insignificant amount of politicians have their financial destinies hooked up to China.

Leftists naturally don't want the populace armed, they are ideological allies with China even if not financially tied to them.

The treasonous Dems/Repubs already have a multi-step plan for disarming the US populace.

Probably in small steps at first.

Unfortunately it probably includes mass murder events to create fear and nudge the 2nd amendment fence sitters.

The restrictions will seem very reasonable to those who are younger than the tail end of the boomers.

I'm not sure exactly when, but they've stopped teaching that we have natural rights found in nature and endowed to us by natures God and instead inserted the "new and improved version" of "human" rights instead.

Natural rights are passé.



 
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #96 on: November 25, 2020, 10:05:20 AM »
Legislators don't enforce laws.

At some point we are going to need to make peace with the need to shoot cops who choose to enforce gun laws.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #97 on: November 25, 2020, 10:55:49 AM »
Legislators don't enforce laws.

At some point we are going to need to make peace with the need to shoot cops who choose to enforce gun laws.

Maybe we will have sanctuary states that refuse to restrict the 2nd amendment and refuse to partner with Federal depts tasked with enforcing fed restrictions.

The propagandists are so good I suspect our position will look really ridiculous to the masses. It's not outside the realm of possibility that we lose without an organized resistance ever getting off the ground.



 
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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #98 on: November 25, 2020, 02:26:08 PM »
It shouldn't be that hard to vilify police to most of the US.

Some dead kids in botched raids will suffice,  and I suspect be easy to come by.

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Re: Your predictions for a Biden presidency and guns
« Reply #99 on: November 25, 2020, 02:49:22 PM »
Maybe we will have sanctuary states that refuse to restrict the 2nd amendment and refuse to partner with Federal depts tasked with enforcing fed restrictions.

The propagandists are so good I suspect our position will look really ridiculous to the masses. It's not outside the realm of possibility that we lose without an organized resistance ever getting off the ground.


2A sanctuary states may not be as easy as one might think.

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