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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2020, 05:26:25 PM »
From what I heard the problem in GA is that they are recounting all the ballots without making sure they are valid.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2020, 05:58:59 PM »
From what I heard the problem in GA is that they are recounting all the ballots without making sure they are valid.
At this point there is no way to validate them.

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2020, 06:17:54 PM »
Trump is asking for signature matchs on absentee ballots. They could also make sure the people live in the state and were alive when they voted.

They are both old white narcissistic democrats so I don't worry too much about the outcome. But there are some serious questions about this election that need to be answered.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2020, 06:21:48 PM »
And yet AG Bill Barr came out just today with his opinion that there was no evidence of widespread fraud that would change the election results.

To quote Larry Correia from Book of Faces:
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Meanwhile, Bob Barr pronounces there's no evidence of fraud, which is kinda funny considering you can't find what you refuse to look for...

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2020, 07:41:28 PM »
And yet AG Bill Barr came out just today with his opinion that there was no evidence of widespread fraud that would change the election results.

This despite hundreds of people involved in the elections across the country signing sworn affidavits about the fraudulent activities they witnessed.
Yep, I absolutely believe Bill Barr.  Look at the good work he and his team did investigating documented Clinton and Democrat corruption in the 2016 election.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #30 on: December 01, 2020, 08:12:20 PM »
This despite hundreds of people involved in the elections across the country signing sworn affidavits about the fraudulent activities they witnessed.

Speaking of which ...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblowers-postal-service-threw-out-backdated-ballots-election-trump

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2020, 09:09:31 AM »
And yet AG Bill Barr came out just today with his opinion that there was no evidence of widespread fraud that would change the election results.

It should be noted how odd it really is that a CIA spook, deep state Bushy inside player like Barr ended up in such a prominent position in the "populist" Presidency of Trump.

My point is not to insinuate anything particular.

We just sort of absorbed, assimilated and accepted Trumps weird swamp creature picks and ignored the cognitive dissonance of such picks.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2020, 12:31:58 PM »
And yet AG Bill Barr came out just today with his opinion that there was no evidence of widespread fraud that would change the election results.

A remark the lame-stream press took out of context.    :facepalm:    And is  STILL doing despite knowing better.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2020, 03:42:58 PM »
What's the rumble on Trump preemptively pardoning his family members? What are they supposed to have done (or not done) that's criminal under federal law?
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2020, 04:03:32 PM »
What's the rumble on Trump preemptively pardoning his family members? What are they supposed to have done (or not done) that's criminal under federal law?

Since when has the left needed actual crimes to persecute prosecute someone on the right?

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2020, 05:20:52 PM »
What's the rumble on Trump preemptively pardoning his family members? What are they supposed to have done (or not done) that's criminal under federal law?

Lets say they did absolutely nothing. Normally I would be against this type of "blanket immunity for past, present, and future", but after the criminal activity I've seen done in the last four years, and not by anyone on team Trump, I 100% support him doing such a thing to protect innocent people from the whacko left and their vendettas.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2020, 06:02:32 PM »
Lets say they did absolutely nothing. Normally I would be against this type of "blanket immunity for past, present, and future", but after the criminal activity I've seen done in the last four years, and not by anyone on team Trump, I 100% support him doing such a thing to protect innocent people from the whacko left and their vendettas.

True. Sometime around 30 December or 2 January Trump should resign, Pence gets sworn in, and promptly pardons Trump.

The histrionics of the left would be spectacular.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2020, 06:04:18 PM »
Why would Trump resign?  He can pardon himself if he feels it necessary.

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2020, 07:01:45 PM »
Why would Trump resign?  He can pardon himself if he feels it necessary.

He can? How is that possible?
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #39 on: December 02, 2020, 09:16:31 PM »
Where does it say he can’t?  Pardon power is essentially unlimited, at least for federal crimes.

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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2020, 12:30:05 AM »
From what I've read, Constitutional scholars are divided on the subject.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2020, 11:22:44 AM »
When Nixon resigned, didn't Ford immediately pardon him?

It seems to me that could be regarded as a precedent.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2020, 11:37:30 AM »
When Nixon resigned, didn't Ford immediately pardon him?

It seems to me that could be regarded as a precedent.

Yes,  he did.  But given that Nixon had actually done naughty things,  I don't think it was a really good idea ......  :old:
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2020, 02:34:14 PM »
Yes,  he did.  But given that Nixon had actually done naughty things,  I don't think it was a really good idea ......  :old:

I agree. But ... the point is that Nixon didn't pardon himself. Ford pardoned him and, IIRC, the rationale was that the country had gone though enough and it was time to let the dust settle.
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Re: Trump pardons Michael Flynn
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2020, 02:49:52 PM »
From I remember reading Nixon’s resignation was partly predicated on Ford giving him a preemptive pardon (since criminal charges had not been filed by then).