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Title: 28th Amendment?
Post by: 280plus on April 27, 2011, 07:32:35 AM
Came from a reputable area shooter:

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified!  Why?  Simple!  The people demanded it.  That was in 1971...before computers, before e-mail, before cell phones, etc.
 
Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the land...all because of public pressure.
 
I'm asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.
 
In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message.  This is one idea that really should be passed around.
 
 Congressional Reform Act of 2011

 1. Term Limits. 12 years only, one of the possible options below..
 
  A. Two Six-year Senate terms
  B. Six Two-year House terms
  C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms

 
2.  No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

 
3.  Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
 
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately.  All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

 
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

 
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.  Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

 
6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

 
7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

 
8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 10-1-11

 
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen.  Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

  
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.  The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

  If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message.  Maybe it is time..

 THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!!!!! If you agree with the above, pass it on.   If not, just delete
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 27, 2011, 08:11:34 AM
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Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

This is too mechanical to be hard-coded into the Constitution.

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6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

This sounds like a back door endorsement of Obamacare.  I don't want anything amended to the Constitution that sounds like it endorses Obamacare.

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3.  Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
 
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately.  All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

I don't want anything amended to the Constitution that endorses or protects or ratifies/validates Social Security.

I think it needs more work.  As-is, I don't like it.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: T.O.M. on April 27, 2011, 08:41:18 AM
I don't care for term limits. As I see it, if an elected official is good, he or she should be able to continue to serve. If a waste, vote them out.  I should not be denied the opportunity to re-elect a good official just because some people are dumb enough to vote out the worthless.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: 280plus on April 27, 2011, 08:47:53 AM
All good points that I can agree with. I'm now thinking I should have posted this at Politico not RT :facepalm:

So if anyone wants to move it s'ok with me. 
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: makattak on April 27, 2011, 08:55:22 AM
I don't care for term limits. As I see it, if an elected official is good, he or she should be able to continue to serve. If a waste, vote them out.  I should not be denied the opportunity to re-elect a good official just because some people are dumb enough to vote out the worthless.

And that's how you get FDR The Destroyer for 4 terms. Thankfully, he died before he could screw everything up again after WWII.

I don't like the idea of term limits. Unfortunately we need them. It's one of those "lesser of two evils" choices.

Kind of like government in general.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: MechAg94 on April 27, 2011, 10:09:09 AM
How about simply no free health care or any other benefits beyond basic pay.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: Balog on April 27, 2011, 11:02:55 AM
I don't care for term limits. As I see it, if an elected official is good, he or she should be able to continue to serve. If a waste, vote them out.  I should not be denied the opportunity to re-elect a good official just because some people are dumb enough to vote out the worthless.

I've decided that being in DC is prima facie evidence that you are being corrupted. Think of it like a zombie outbreak. Even if a theoretical %1 of people bitten can resist turning, you still shoot them all in the head.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on April 27, 2011, 04:52:34 PM
I don't care for term limits. As I see it, if an elected official is good, he or she should be able to continue to serve. If a waste, vote them out.  I should not be denied the opportunity to re-elect a good official just because some people are dumb enough to vote out the worthless.
Teddy Kennedy, Robert Byrd, the defense rests its case.
Title: Re: 28th Amendment?
Post by: S. Williamson on April 28, 2011, 04:35:45 PM
The people whose vote actually counts for ratifying it would never vote in favor of ratifying it.