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Title: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Jamie B on September 21, 2011, 02:31:21 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-20/-extravagant-spending-16-muffins-found-at-justice-conferences.html

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U.S. Justice Department agencies spent too much for food at conferences, in one case serving $16 muffins and in another dishing out beef Wellington appetizers that cost $7.32 per serving, an audit found.

In April 2008 the Justice Department issued policies and procedures designed to control conference spending.
The new report found that agencies were able to “circumvent meal and refreshment cost limits” when conferences were planned under cooperative agreements, a type of funding awarded by a Justice Department agency.

How nice that these douchebags are so inventive in circumventing the controls on their previously extravagant spending habits.
And you wonder why taxpayers do not trust any governmental agency who are overwhelmed with their own importance.....
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: 209 on September 21, 2011, 04:23:41 PM
I don't know about you, but I'd love to try a $16 muffin.  But I can't remember ever having a muffin I'd pay 16 dollars for.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on September 21, 2011, 04:33:28 PM
Having done a lot of public speaking at medical and legal meetings at fancy hotels and being part of planning committees that arrange these events, I have had some exposure to the cost of hotel catering and services.  It can be shocking to say the least.  $ 500 to rent a computer projector for half a day; $ 250 to set it up, $ 3 for a can of Sprite, $ 14 for a piece of cheesecake, etc.

Not to excuse the subject of the original post, but I can easily see paying $ 16 for a muffin at a conference.  In my experience, these prices would not be out of line in downtown NYC, Washington DC, San Francisco, Atlanta or other big cities and hotels catering to the business convention trade.
Title: Re: Unobtanium Muffins Found at Justice
Post by: TommyGunn on September 21, 2011, 05:18:33 PM
What were these muffins made of, unobtanium?   [popcorn] 
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 21, 2011, 05:32:22 PM
"I've gotta know what a fi-dollah shake tastes like."
Title: Re: Unobtanium Muffins Found at Justice
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 21, 2011, 05:33:43 PM
What were these muffins made of, unobtanium?   [popcorn] 


Pot muffins.

Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 21, 2011, 05:37:45 PM
in 1992 we got 125 dollars a gallon for coffee plus 18% gratuity at the mayflower.  buff wings were 1.25 a wing the small bottles of coke were 2 bucks
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Jamie B on September 21, 2011, 07:26:50 PM

Only way I am eating a $16 muffin is if it is personally delivered by Mila Kunis!

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Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 21, 2011, 07:29:21 PM
Only way I am eating a $16 muffin is if it is personally delivered by Mila Kunis!

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Werd.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on September 21, 2011, 07:56:36 PM
I am disappoint that no one has called for muffin delivery by Christina Hendricks.  I would take her over Ms. Kunis any day.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: RaspberrySurprise on September 21, 2011, 08:21:53 PM
I'd be happy with a muffin delivered by my wife. But then again I like her cooking and I know what kind of um "results" ill get later.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Jamie B on September 21, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
I think that I found one.

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Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Ned Hamford on September 21, 2011, 11:18:21 PM
I don't know about you, but I'd love to try a $16 muffin.  But I can't remember ever having a muffin I'd pay 16 dollars for.

They are delicious!

But what about a muffin you'd have someone else pay 16 dollars for?  :P
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: seeker_two on September 21, 2011, 11:20:32 PM
Only way I am eating a $16 muffin is if it is personally delivered by Mila Kunis!

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I see $32 worth in that pic alone.....  =D
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: French G. on September 22, 2011, 09:41:23 AM
Just read a bit in the ASJA mag, they have their annual conference in Manhattan because that's where the editors and publishers are that they want to bring to the writers. They figured the coffee service in the hall was costing $20/cup and the plated lunch at $80 a head, hotel glad to do a cold plate buffet instead as long as they still charged the $80.  Those deals are worse than the mob. Used to go to trade shows, whatever the convention extortion moving and facilities company made out similarly. Want an extension cord? $$$$ Move all your stuff? $$$$$ Set it up too? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  We self installed thank you very much.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 22, 2011, 09:57:39 AM
you self installed in nyc? the unions allowed that?
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: HankB on September 22, 2011, 10:21:26 AM
you self installed in nyc? the unions allowed that?
Several decades ago when my Dad was still working, he said they quit displaying at trade shows held at Chicago's McCormick Place - the facility insisted that you would have to hire the on-site union electricians for everything, even to change a light bulb in your display.

Even though they were on-site, you STILL were billed for round/trip travel time from wherever their home office was, mileage, two (2) electricians, fuel surcharge, etc. It could easily run $500.

To change an <expletive deleted> light bulb you could walk over to and change yourself in 30 seconds.

Exhibitors used to watch out for union "observers" and change their own bulbs . . . but then, overnight, bulbs started disappearing from displays.  Bleeping crooks.  [ar15]
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MechAg94 on September 22, 2011, 01:38:35 PM
I am disappoint that no one has called for muffin delivery by Christina Hendricks.  I would take her over Ms. Kunis any day.
That would be more than $16 each. 
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on September 22, 2011, 03:09:11 PM
you self installed in nyc? the unions allowed that?

I know!  I find this amazing that no one got their legs broken!
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 22, 2011, 03:17:17 PM
i was at a food show in new york . electrician was on a step ladder high up changing a bulb.  i put my foot on bottom rung and held ladder to steady it and some union puke came over ranting "you can't do that! you're not union!" i wanted to pop him one
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MechAg94 on September 22, 2011, 03:22:49 PM
i was at a food show in new york . electrician was on a step ladder high up changing a bulb.  i put my foot on bottom rung and held ladder to steady it and some union puke came over ranting "you can't do that! you're not union!" i wanted to pop him one
Then he can get his lazy butt over there and hold the ladder. 

Complaining that someone else is doing work that you are too lazy to do or won't do is ridiculous. 
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on September 22, 2011, 07:45:54 PM
Then he can get his lazy butt over there and hold the ladder. 

Complaining that someone else is doing work that you are too lazy to do or won't do is ridiculous. 

its deeper than that.  his job(the guy on the ladder) would require a helper to hold ladder etc so the union doubles its take from dues.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on September 23, 2011, 11:41:30 AM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/09/23/140735433/those-muffins-did-not-cost-16-each-hilton-says?ft=1&f=1001

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=140724272

There is apparently more to MuffinGate than meets the eye.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Regolith on September 23, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/09/23/140735433/those-muffins-did-not-cost-16-each-hilton-says?ft=1&f=1001

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=140724272

There is apparently more to MuffinGate than meets the eye.

"The muffins didn't really cost $16 because we gave them a bunch of comps" doesn't really cut it. The muffins were still listed seperately as $4200.  And as others have noticed, it appears that they broke federal regulations when they contracted the food along with the conference room. 
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on September 24, 2011, 04:57:29 PM
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I would like one blueberry and one lemon poppyseed delivered, please.
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Tallpine on September 25, 2011, 11:27:06 AM
Face it, the muffins were just really hot  =)
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 25, 2011, 12:27:40 PM
Muffin Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm7uJ74XFI&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcm7uJ74XFI&NR=1)

DD
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: seeker_two on September 25, 2011, 03:09:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzFJM1qZqsk&feature=player_detailpage#t=52s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzFJM1qZqsk&feature=player_detailpage#t=52s)

Wow......just......wow......
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: MillCreek on October 28, 2011, 05:30:44 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/28/141802661/watchdogs-take-back-claim-about-16-muffins?ft=1&f=1001

So maybe this whole muffin thing was just a big misunderstanding.......

"Now the watchdogs say they were wrong for calling out the department for spending too much on muffins. "We regret the error in our original report," auditors say (a copy of the revised report is posted below)."
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: Jamie B on October 28, 2011, 06:16:36 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/10/28/141802661/watchdogs-take-back-claim-about-16-muffins?ft=1&f=1001

So maybe this whole muffin thing was just a big misunderstanding.......

"Now the watchdogs say they were wrong for calling out the department for spending too much on muffins. "We regret the error in our original report," auditors say (a copy of the revised report is posted below)."
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Justice officials have said they were already taking action before the original report was released. Deputy Attorney General Jim Cole has said conference costs are way down this year.
Well, this just makes me giddy with joy!

Of course, I am sure that office copier costs are up by the same amount due to creative accounting!
Title: Re: $16 Muffins Found at Justice Department Meetings
Post by: longeyes on October 29, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
Several decades ago when my Dad was still working, he said they quit displaying at trade shows held at Chicago's McCormick Place - the facility insisted that you would have to hire the on-site union electricians for everything, even to change a light bulb in your display.

Even though they were on-site, you STILL were billed for round/trip travel time from wherever their home office was, mileage, two (2) electricians, fuel surcharge, etc. It could easily run $500.

To change an <expletive deleted> light bulb you could walk over to and change yourself in 30 seconds.

Exhibitors used to watch out for union "observers" and change their own bulbs . . . but then, overnight, bulbs started disappearing from displays.  Bleeping crooks.  [ar15]

I used to be involved in a publishing company that exhibited at least once a year at McCormick.  Amen to all you say here.  The place was a shameless cathedral of cold-blooded exploitation by the unions.  All rather ironic given that the trade show involved was focused on arguably the most competitive industry in the world.