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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: K Frame on January 06, 2021, 02:53:53 PM
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Apparently protestors have breached Capitol security and are in the building to the point where they've deployed tear gas IN the rotunda of the US Capitol.
There are alleged pipe bombs in the Capitol.
The mayor of Washington has declared a 6 pm to 6 am curfew.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/live-updates-pence-has-power-to-block-certification-trump-says
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*expletive deleted*ck it, let it all burn.
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Yep, burn it to the ground.
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Battle of Athens, Part II? (Seems to be a LOT more peaceful than what happened then.)
The commentators are going on about how the protestors are undermining the Constitutional process - but I can't help but wonder about how many of them were equally upset about states that unconstitutionally changed their voting procedures without their legislatures doing it as provided for in the Constitution.
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Inside the capitol building:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os1WD6-DXK8
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(https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/2290b77986b2ea735e10b0f8002b5ee0)
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Apparently someone was just shot.
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I thought police didn't shoot rioters/protestors? Are these not the right kind of rioters/protestors?
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I guess it depends on if they're mostly peaceful rioters or not.
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We'll be getting new gun control legislation to the max now. The Dems will not hold back, they'll give it to us good and hard.
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Apparently protestors have breached Capitol security and are in the building to the point where they've deployed tear gas IN the rotunda of the US Capitol.
There are alleged pipe bombs in the Capitol.
The mayor of Washington has declared a 6 pm to 6 am curfew.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/live-updates-pence-has-power-to-block-certification-trump-says
It's surprising to me that anyone on the right thought these protests were really going to sway any of the legislators' opinions. I suspect it will change some squishy GOP opinions now, just not in the direction they were hoping for. Lots of GOP legislators think we proles just need to stay in our place and not disagree with our betters.
Regardless, the left is in complete control of Congress, and their opinions were already set hard. They are just going to dig their heels in even deeper now.
However, as others have said, they can burn it all down as far as I'm concerned. That would be a satisfying sight.
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And here comes the National Guard.
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Unconfirmed reports of pipe bomb found at RNC HQ, suspicious package at DNC HQ, both evacuated.
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We'll be getting new gun control legislation to the max now. The Dems will not hold back, they'll give it to us good and hard.
It's surprising to me that anyone on the right thought these protests were really going to sway any of the legislators' opinions. I suspect it will change some squishy GOP opinions now, just not in the direction they were hoping for. Lots of GOP legislators think we proles just need to stay in our place and not disagree with our betters.
Yup, after watching some of the videos from inside the building and reading comments by GOP reps, some kind of gun control is going to be put forward post haste, and GOP legislators will vote for it. Especially so if the gunshot that happened came from a protestor (I haven't yet heard if LE fired or a protestor did).
This violence was unexpected to me. I knew there were a lot of people as mad as I was about an obviously stolen election, but not this mad. I suspect that a majority of status quo "conservative" legislators saying, "Oh well, that's the way the ball bounces" contributed in a big way to this unexpected (to me) violence from the right.
ETA: [Big, humongous, tinfoil hat on my head] Are we sure the violence is really from the right, and not from antifa types that embedded themselves in the protest to impersonate "right wing militias"? It wouldn't take many of them to start something, and then get some on edge real right wing protestors to just lemming along. I might be reading too much Kurt Schlichter.
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(I haven't yet heard if LE fired or a protestor did).
Capitol police shot a female protester in the neck.
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Hmm...
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
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The whole point of protesting is to make ppl uncomfortable.
Activists take that discomfort w/ the status quo & advocate for concrete policy changes. Popular support often starts small & grows.
To folks who complain protest demands make others uncomfortable... that’s the point.
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"May you live in interesting times"
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Capitol police shot a female protester in the neck.
Police shot unarmed peaceful protester? We we know what comes next. Time to burn things and demand judgment against the jack booted thugs.
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Capitol police shot a female protester in the neck.
Through a door, possibly.
bob
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What little GOP congressional support existed to reverse the stolen election just evaporated. I expect nearly all the GOP critters will vote to accept the electoral college votes for Biden.
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Think I'm going to go shopping at Sam's and stock up on booze. It's going to be long year
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Left violently riots - everyone moves to the left.
Right violently riots - everyone moves to the left.
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Not seeing a lot of COVID-19 masks...
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Not seeing a lot of COVID-19 masks...
Protests/riots don't spread COVID. Wasn't that a 2020 lesson?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkTzdubV6J4
Donut Operator is live talking about it.
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ETA: [Big, humongous, tinfoil hat on my head] Are we sure the violence is really from the right, and not from antifa types that embedded themselves in the protest to impersonate "right wing militias"? It wouldn't take many of them to start something, and then get some on edge real right wing protestors to just lemming along. I might be reading too much Kurt Schlichter.
https://www.facebook.com/erika.lake/posts/10158931676933695
Some of the "Trump Supporters" have hammer/sickle tattoos on their hands and been social media tagged at antifa protests elsewhere.
EDIT: Evidently it's not a hammer/sickle. It's a tattoo called an Outsider's Mark from a video game called Dishonored.
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https://www.facebook.com/erika.lake/posts/10158931676933695
Some of the "Trump Supporters" have hammer/sickle tattoos on their hands and been social media tagged at antifa protests elsewhere.
That's almost exactly out of Schlichter's latest novel.
Not to completely buy into my own paranoia, but there seemed to be a much greater than normal number of Gadsden flags than at other protests I've seen.
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All that *expletive deleted*it they piled up won't really burn; they know that but don't seem to know what to do next. (helpful hint: you put an old tire doused with a little kerosene on top and burn *that*)
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Unconfirmed reports that the worst of the protestors are Antifa wolves in MAGA clothing.
Interesting...
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Half a year of cities burning under the guise of “peaceful protesting” and you get this.
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More livestream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cexjkBtdetU
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Major news networks seem to have no problem calling this a riot. Unbiased reporting indeed.
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They should has started chanting communist slogans while throwing molotov cocktails, the media would have gone home after reporting nothing to see here.
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This guy looks a little more antifa than trumper with the hippie hair and skinny jeans.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErE65taXEAU3dxw?format=jpg&name=large)
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The left just needs to chill. This is what insurance is for. Rioting is the language of the unheard
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Capitol police shot a female protester in the neck.
This has video. Who is the guy in the back with a weapon? Looks like glass on the floor. A few questions here and the truth will never come out.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2021/01/06/graphic-video-woman-shot-in-the-neck-inside-capitol-building/
bob
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DC police confirm that the woman has died.
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Unconfirmed reports of pipe bomb found at RNC HQ, suspicious package at DNC HQ, both evacuated.
The reports are confirmed:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/electoral-vote#an-explosive-device-is-found-at-the-rnc-and-the-dnc-is-evacuated
An explosive device was found at the headquarters of the Republican National Committee in Washington and the nearby headquarters of the Democratic National Committee was evacuated after the discovery of a suspicious package on Wednesday, according to three people briefed on the discoveries.
The device that was found at the R.N.C. was a pipe bomb that was successfully destroyed by a bomb squad, according to an official for the R.N.C.
The package at the D.N.C. has yet to be identified, according to a top Democrat briefed on the matter who was not authorized to speak publicly about it.
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The moment when things went sideways: https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346966514990149639
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https://twitter.com/MrElefantes/status/1346972137568030722
Twitter says Trump's account has been locked for 12 hours, and any future violations will result in permanent termination.
5:09 PM · Jan 6, 2021
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Rep. Ilhan Omar says she’s drawing up Articles of Impeachment as ‘a matter of preserving our Republic’
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/06/rep-ilhan-omar-says-shes-drawing-up-articles-of-impeachment-as-a-matter-of-preserving-our-republic/
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https://twitter.com/MrElefantes/status/1346972137568030722
Precisely why we need to stop relying so heavily on social media to "fact check" what we can and cannot see. Twitter needs to be destroyed, and not because they locked out Trump.
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DC police confirm that the woman has died.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/06/confirmed-woman-shot-in-capitol-has-died-speaker-nancy-pelosi-says-joint-session-will-reconvene-tonight/
One woman who was shot during the unrest in the Capitol has died, Washington's Metropolitan Police Department confirmed to HuffPost. The department could not confirm if she was shot by law enforcement.
Can't confirm, or won't confirm at this time? Were LE weapons fired? That's a good place to start.
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What we need now is a good, old fashioned alien invasion.
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Until this very moment, I did not know that the District of Columbia has a National Guard unit. I would have thought they were too small to staff a NG unit.
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This almost seems appropriate.
(https://i.imgur.com/PAHbDpe.jpg)
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https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/06/confirmed-woman-shot-in-capitol-has-died-speaker-nancy-pelosi-says-joint-session-will-reconvene-tonight/
Can't confirm, or won't confirm at this time? Were LE weapons fired? That's a good place to start.
They won't attribute the death to law enforcement until an autopsy is done and the bullet recovered (if it's even still in her).
Kinda wondering if the Right will lay off the cop fellatio when it's apparent that "just following orders" is the strategy, and the legal system will allow them to kill Righties with the same impunity as Lefties.
Pics make it appear that the cop shot through the glass, which would have been a blind shot since it is opaque. Though it is possible that the protesters had already broken the window prior to the gunshots, I admit that. Regardless, shooting someone through an intact and functioning barrier is not a legitimate claim for self defense IMO.
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Gotta say... I don't really get it. What did that accomplish? How did today advance the cause of the people briefly seized the capitol building?
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This almost seems appropriate.
(https://i.imgur.com/PAHbDpe.jpg)
Dude was a Democrat not long ago. And he's a New Yorker.
Honestly I don't think it's possible to be a conservative and live within 500 miles of the Atlantic Ocean. Those people over there have things so tossed up and over they might as well be extras in that South Park introretrogestion (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=introretrogestion) episode.
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Dude was a Democrat not long ago. And he's a New Yorker.
Honestly I don't think it's possible to be a conservative and live within 500 miles of the Atlantic Ocean. Those people over there have things so tossed up and over they might as well be extras in that South Park introretrogestion (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=introretrogestion) episode.
Yeah, but he just fanned the flames. Any self destruction they did to themselves. If he was faking it, just shows how weak the party really was. They were trying to anoint Jeb Bush of all people.
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Scott Adams weighs in: https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1346972109390548992
More sympathetic to the protestors than I expected.
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I just wish our patriotic brothers and sisters would of beat down the Antifa agitators as they seen them causing the damage.
https://twitter.com/ingrahamangle/status/1346979377150648320?s=21 (https://twitter.com/ingrahamangle/status/1346979377150648320?s=21)
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A minor point: do you think Congresswoman-elect Boebert will still be allowed to carry her pistol in the Capitol?
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A minor point: do you think Congresswoman-elect Boebert will still be allowed to carry her pistol in the Capitol?
That very question went through my head earlier
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CBS News claims that Trump's cabinet is considering invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/06/trumps-cabinet-considering-invoking-25th-amendment-cbs-news-reports-again/
For now, file it under rumor or wishful thinking.
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A minor point: do you think Congresswoman-elect Boebert will still be allowed to carry her pistol in the Capitol?
Or will a whole bunch of Congresspeople start carrying in the Capitol?
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CBS News claims that Trump's cabinet is considering invoking the 25th Amendment to remove him:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/06/trumps-cabinet-considering-invoking-25th-amendment-cbs-news-reports-again/
For now, file it under rumor or wishful thinking.
Oh yea, I mean, two weeks before he's out of office, all of a sudden, he needs to be removed via 25th amendment. :facepalm:
Clown World.
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The cabinet can consider all they want; they can't do anything w/o the vice-president signing-off on it.
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I would say that when a representative republic cannot hold elections without this level of distrust and uncertainty, and congress can't hold congressional proceedings without barricading doors and shooting people... well the system is failed and walking dead.
I think that we are witnessing "the day" the USA fell. The storming of Capitol Hill is for the US sort of what the tearing down of the Berlin wall was for the Soviets.
China! rising :police:
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I sooooo hope you're wrong, Blakenzy. Unfortunatly, for a number of years I've had the feeling that this country was getting closer to some type of ...... dystopic event that would cause a nasty schizm in America ...... :'(
I somehow doubt the current president-elect has the ability or wisdom to solve the problem and redirect our country's current path.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkTzdubV6J4
Donut Operator is live talking about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqbtarPfn8c
=D
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A minor point: do you think Congresswoman-elect Boebert will still be allowed to carry her pistol in the Capitol?
She has already been told that she cannot.
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I would say that when a representative republic cannot hold elections without this level of distrust and uncertainty, and congress can't hold congressional proceedings without barricading doors and shooting people... well the system is failed and walking dead.
I think that we are witnessing "the day" the USA fell. The storming of Capitol Hill is for the US sort of what the tearing down of the Berlin wall was for the Soviets.
Quoted for truth.
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Blue helmet wearing cop pushes a man off a ledge to his death.
https://files.catbox.moe/8p64t7.mp4 (https://files.catbox.moe/8p64t7.mp4)
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Blue helmet wearing cop pushes a man off a ledge to his death.
https://files.catbox.moe/8p64t7.mp4 (https://files.catbox.moe/8p64t7.mp4)
Looks like a 15-20 foot fall. Did the guy really die?
Nothing in the news about his death. The news says four people died: the one lady who was shot and three others who had personal medical emergencies.
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So....
These were riots.
I guess to have mostly peaceful protests you need more arson and looting.
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Ian Miles Cheong
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The riot organizers will likely be charged with the death of Ashli Babbitt.
It will be interesting to see if this is the case. I read confirmation that the police shot her.
It has been a bit disgusting for me to see the people who were excusing/supporting/cheering antifa now suddenly finding the need to punish rioters at all costs. The hypocricy makes me want to vomit.
Also all the conservative legislators that were rightly questioning all the fishy stuff during the election now doing a 180, I'm guessing to save their careers, though they may have misidentified their audience.
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And here we go, we need a moderate conservative for 2024. ;/
The swamp refills to capacity pretty quickly, it seems.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/06/romney-2024-mitt-romney-called-a-towering-figure-in-modern-american-history-after-floor-speech/
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"Pearl Harbor".
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/06/sen-chuck-schumer-compares-storming-of-the-capitol-to-pearl-harbor/
I'm starting to feel like this guy:
Pearl Harbor?! Seriously? I’m so done with absolutely every single politician
Part two of my three part plan for living through the death of America - laying low in the sticks and being an outlaw against progressive laws - sounds about right for me these days.
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So....
These were riots.
I guess to have mostly peaceful protests you need more arson and looting.
(https://irate4x4.com/filedata/fetch?id=261338)
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And the MSM has been telling people for years that the biggest threat to the country is right wing extremism, and (lately) "Christian nationalism", whatever that is. So, roll in the tanks.
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The woman killed was a 14 year AF veteran. Just to show how things can get twisted I've seen comments where people are foaming at the mouth that they shot a 14 year old.
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*Post removed by me due to it should have been in another thread
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The globalist Uni-Party is not happy.
It's good to see all the fake Republicans/conservatives out themselves.
Trump the court jester continues to trigger all the fakes and phonies on the "right" to unmask themselves as sycophants to the globalist Uni-Party.
Actually a very healthy development.
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This guy looks a little more antifa than trumper with the hippie hair and skinny jeans.
I've come to believe anything is possible, regardless of how tinfoil-hattish it might be. For example, these guys look like they got swept up in the moment while on their way to some gaming convention:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50810772102_1d6f7de6d0_m.jpg)
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I've seen a picture of the horn guy at an antifa riot. He was in a leadership role supposedly. One of those things that make you go, "Hmmm..."
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This has video. Who is the guy in the back with a weapon? Looks like glass on the floor. A few questions here and the truth will never come out.
https://www.breitbart.com/law-and-order/2021/01/06/graphic-video-woman-shot-in-the-neck-inside-capitol-building/
bob
The guy with the rifle almost looks like he's signaling to someone behind the door in this frame:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50810657896_13e41e705b_m.jpg)
It's a lousy image and hard to tell what exactly is going on, but like I said, the fact that it's tinfoil-hattery doesn't necessarily make it untrue. And as you said, we'll probably never really know, more's the pity.
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https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/07/facebook-posts/face-painted-man-horned-fur-cap-capitol-riot-suppo/
The guy in the horns supports both the President and QAnon.
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I've seen a picture of the horn guy at an antifa riot. He was in a leadership role supposedly. One of those things that make you go, "Hmmm..."
No, you've seen a picture of horn guy at a counter protest, the picture YOU saw had the Q "Trust the plan" sign photoshopped out.
Is it really hard to believe that these people could be responsible for their own actions, and be on the right?
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Some people did something
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Demonstrations and riots aren't how I roll, but I'm having a hard time getting exercised over what was a mostly peaceful show of support.
The fanatics do what fanatics do and I find what the Democrats and Republicans are doing to the USA far more insulting than the actions of a minority of overzealous Trump supporters acting out in defiance of the Uni-Party.
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My days of not taking humanity seriously are certainly coming to a middle.
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AP is saying 4 dead
https://www.wlky.com/article/trump-supporters-flood-dc-to-protest-election/35141408
Wednesday included a woman who was shot by the U.S. Capitol Police, as well as three others who died in “medical emergencies.”
"medical emergencies". The MSM sure do love to push the body count up when it's the right
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Is it really hard to believe that these people could be responsible for their own actions, and be on the right?
If they did it, which they did, they are indeed responsible for their own actions. My tinfoil question from earlier still stands though: Could there have been some antifa plants that actually started the herd moving? The people that stormed in are still responsible for doing so, but would they have done so if a few "leaders" didn't start the stampede and egg people on? This is just not what we have seen at any pro-Trump or pro-conservative rally in the past.
There are just a lot of images of people who, other than a Trump hat or Gadsden flag, look they they just walked out of a CHOP.
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Arthur Chu
@arthur_affect
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Ashley Babbitt feeding the worms is one of the few good things that happened as a result of the Capitol "protest" and if you feel the need to mourn her Nazi ass it'll be easier for both of us if you unfollow me now
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(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/200/368/147.jpg)
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If they did it, which they did, they are indeed responsible for their own actions. My tinfoil question from earlier still stands though: Could there have been some antifa plants that actually started the herd moving? The people that stormed in are still responsible for doing so, but would they have done so if a few "leaders" didn't start the stampede and egg people on? This is just not what we have seen at any pro-Trump or pro-conservative rally in the past.
There are just a lot of images of people who, other than a Trump hat or Gadsden flag, look they they just walked out of a CHOP.
The "leaders" were people like Nick Fuentes and such who livestreamed themselves urging people on
Is it realy that hard to believe that people who follow Q on 4chan and believe that a shadowy cabal of satanists control everything might look like CHOP types?
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50810657896_13e41e705b_m.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjUmULa0R-8
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The "leaders" were people like Nick Fuentes and such who livestreamed themselves urging people on
Is it realy that hard to believe that people who follow Q on 4chan and believe that a shadowy cabal of satanists control everything might look like CHOP types?
No, but I more expect the radical Trump people to look and act like (I can't find the video of him acting like an ass anymore) the guy who went to Pelosi's office to "scratch his balls". I also expect that people like him are the lemmings. He wouldn't have had the balls to do that if somebody hadn't "opened the gates" as it were.
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No, but I more expect the radical Trump people to look and act like (I can't find the video of him acting like an ass anymore) the guy who went to Pelosi's office to "scratch his balls". I also expect that people like him are the lemmings. He wouldn't have had the balls to do that if somebody hadn't "opened the gates" as it were.
Here's what happened. Anything else is cope and hope.
For a LONG time, people associated with trump, and trump himself, have been giving a platform to , for lack of a better term, maniacs. These folks have been pumping conspiracy theories about shadow government and the deep state, etc.
Normal people have been sharing it on social media, pumping it up and churning it into a frenzy.
A large chunk of those types of people went to the capitol yesterday
And after FOUR YEARS of this type of stuff ( DONT FORGET TO TRUST THE PLAN!!!!!111111oneoneoneeleventy) , they did something monumentally stupid
And now, people on the right who have been Larping about "1776!" "Tree of Liberty!" "WHY DONT ANYONE RESIST THIS TYRANNY" are like:
"Wait a minute... we didnt ACTUALLY want someone to do somethign! it must have been antifa!"
It's pathetic. Legions of trump supporters spent four years in LARP conspiracy theory land, while the democrats actually went out and pursued votes, instead of "Trusting the plan! Where we go 1, we go all!" nonsense.
And if the dems DID cheat, the Right LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT.
Then, someone DID go do something about it, and now yall are like "antifa! antifa!"
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Mark Zuckerberg just banned President Trump from using Facebook and Instagram for the remainder of his term
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/mark-zuckerberg-just-banned-president-trump-from-using-facebook-and-instagram-for-the-remainder-of-his-term/
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REPORT: President Trump has regained access to his Twitter account https://t.co/AIxGlMKFcG
— Twitchy Team (@TwitchyTeam) January 7, 2021
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In case I wasn't clear previously, I don't like mobs violently storming the Capital, whether they are doing so because they don't like a particular supreme court justice or the results of an election. I have been saying for months that the lesson being learned from the police responses to the BLM/Antifa riots was that if you have enough friends and are willing to be violent the police will back down. I have been concerned that this kind of thing would happen, and now that it has I'm completely unsurprised.
The people who were silent or supportive during the months of BLM/Antifa riots have no moral standing to speak out in any respect against the Capital insurrection. I will dismiss outright everyone who defended BLM/Antifa during their mayhem but are suddenly preaching law and order. In much the same way I dismiss outright the people who were on an anti-Trump intifada for the past four years claiming he stole the presidency and that he is an illegitimate president and a racist and a fascist dictator, and pushing Russia conspiracy theories who now are calling for unity under Biden and condemning any question about his election as mere conspiracy theories.
On the other hand, I do respect and will listen to those who have been consistently anti-mob-violence.
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The woman who was shot is Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran:
https://heavy.com/news/ashli-babbit/
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It is not a conspiracy that leftists are pretty much in control of every important institution.
Once the left had enough influence they installed gatekeepers to keep anyone not on the "team" out of positions of influence.
Trump was an entertaining firebreak that held off what appears to be the inevitable consolidation of power.
When the press/social media, nearly every large corporation and the entire Federal/State Government are ALL on the same page it should awaken you to the truth.
The rogue voter problem has finally been neutralized. We live in a totalitarian fascist state ie Fake Democracy.
How tight they turn the screws on the recalcitrant Trump voters remains to be seen.
Enjoy the reset.
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I've come to believe anything is possible, regardless of how tinfoil-hattish it might be. For example, these guys look like they got swept up in the moment while on their way to some gaming convention:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50810772102_1d6f7de6d0_m.jpg)
They sorta remind me of those silly space-creature "monsters" that were in that old 1960s tv sf show, LOST IN SPACE. [tinfoil] [popcorn]
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^^^ https://lostinspace.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Vegetable_Rebellion
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It is not a conspiracy that leftists are pretty much in control of every important institution.
Once the left had enough influence they installed gatekeepers to keep anyone not on the "team" out of positions of influence.
Trump was an entertaining firebreak that held off what appears to be the inevitable consolidation of power.
When the press/social media, nearly every large corporation and the entire Federal/State Government are ALL on the same page it should awaken you to the truth.
The rogue voter problem has finally been neutralized. We live in a totalitarian fascist state ie Fake Democracy.
How tight they turn the screws on the recalcitrant Trump voters remains to be seen.
Enjoy the reset.
QFT.
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Here's what happened. Anything else is cope and hope.
For a LONG time, people associated with trump, and trump himself, have been giving a platform to , for lack of a better term, maniacs. These folks have been pumping conspiracy theories about shadow government and the deep state, etc.
Normal people have been sharing it on social media, pumping it up and churning it into a frenzy.
A large chunk of those types of people went to the capitol yesterday
And after FOUR YEARS of this type of stuff ( DONT FORGET TO TRUST THE PLAN!!!!!111111oneoneoneeleventy) , they did something monumentally stupid
And now, people on the right who have been Larping about "1776!" "Tree of Liberty!" "WHY DONT ANYONE RESIST THIS TYRANNY" are like:
"Wait a minute... we didnt ACTUALLY want someone to do somethign! it must have been antifa!"
It's pathetic. Legions of trump supporters spent four years in LARP conspiracy theory land, while the democrats actually went out and pursued votes, instead of "Trusting the plan! Where we go 1, we go all!" nonsense.
And if the dems DID cheat, the Right LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT.
Then, someone DID go do something about it, and now yall are like "antifa! antifa!"
Nice story bro
The right has been furiously trying to vote us out of this mess for decades.
The Uni-Party gives us Dole, McCain and Romney to vote for and torpedoes anyone unapproved (Ron Paul) even getting close to making a show. Same thing plays out all the way down the ballot. Ask our resident judge how that works.
Even when "we" win, we lose. Reagan got shot. We get a Bush (3 times) and Trump.
I don't think Trump was "supposed" to win and that is part of the hatred of the deep state for him.
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^^^ https://lostinspace.fandom.com/wiki/The_Great_Vegetable_Rebellion
The show actually started out as serious ScFi and then start cranking out episodes like that.. :facepalm:
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Here's what happened. Anything else is cope and hope.
For a LONG time, people associated with trump, and trump himself, have been giving a platform to , for lack of a better term, maniacs. These folks have been pumping conspiracy theories about shadow government and the deep state, etc.
Normal people have been sharing it on social media, pumping it up and churning it into a frenzy.
A large chunk of those types of people went to the capitol yesterday
And after FOUR YEARS of this type of stuff ( DONT FORGET TO TRUST THE PLAN!!!!!111111oneoneoneeleventy) , they did something monumentally stupid
And now, people on the right who have been Larping about "1776!" "Tree of Liberty!" "WHY DONT ANYONE RESIST THIS TYRANNY" are like:
"Wait a minute... we didnt ACTUALLY want someone to do somethign! it must have been antifa!"
It's pathetic. Legions of trump supporters spent four years in LARP conspiracy theory land, while the democrats actually went out and pursued votes, instead of "Trusting the plan! Where we go 1, we go all!" nonsense.
And if the dems DID cheat, the Right LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT.
Then, someone DID go do something about it, and now yall are like "antifa! antifa!"
I don't think you should be blaming Trump and Trump people for that. Trump is a catalyst, but not the cause. What Trump did was cause the media to throw off whatever subtlety that remained and reveal just how much they were lying and making stuff up. That caused a lot of people to stop watching the MSM and start looking for other news/information sources. Not all those alternative information sources are going to be good and some people can't filter out the nonsense. IMO, what you are talking about was already happening before Trump and will continue to happen after he is gone.
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Nice story bro
The right has been furiously trying to vote us out of this mess for decades.
The Uni-Party gives us Dole, McCain and Romney to vote for and torpedoes anyone unapproved (Ron Paul) even getting close to making a show. Same thing plays out all the way down the ballot. Ask our resident judge how that works.
Even when "we" win, we lose. Reagan got shot. We get a Bush (3 times) and Trump.
I don't think Trump was "supposed" to win and that is part of the hatred of the deep state for him.
Ok, then if that's the case, it IS time for violent revolution.
and yet, we have people screaming "NO! WE DIDNT DO THIS! ANTIFA!"
The right is spineless and weak, and is earning its demise
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That caused a lot of people to stop watching the MSM and start looking for other news/information sources.
As has been suggested here before, I will not at all be surprised if a Trump News Network is created for the base.
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As has been suggested here before, I will not at all be surprised if a Trump News Network is created for the base.
... and a nice little political party with no influence as well.
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Semi-related: not a peep from the Democrats about "defund the police" any more.
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As has been suggested here before, I will not at all be surprised if a Trump News Network is created for the base.
Already done. It’s on the Pluto app for smart TVs. Don’t recall what it’s called it’s not TNN but something else.
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Ok, then if that's the case, it IS time for violent revolution.
and yet, we have people screaming "NO! WE DIDNT DO THIS! ANTIFA!"
The right is spineless and weak, and is earning its demise
I agree with you about spineless and weak, but this wasn't a violent revolution attempt. It looked more like useful idiots; (useful to whom?) mostly rightwingers with maybe some antifa provocateurs egging them on but maybe not. They stormed the capitol and got in easily (too easily, maybe it was a trap) and looked like they didn't have a plan for once they got inside. Maybe they didn't really expect to get in so they didn't plan for that possibility.
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No, you've seen a picture of horn guy at a counter protest, the picture YOU saw had the Q "Trust the plan" sign photoshopped out.
Is it really hard to believe that these people could be responsible for their own actions, and be on the right?
Thank you for telling me what I saw. You must have been looking over my shoulder. :facepalm:
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Was there any kind of counter-protest? The pro-trump rally was advertised in advance, there was certainly time to set one up, and as far as I know, it's common practice for antifa/blm. It's possible there was one, even one that was well attended but not reported on. A quick search doesn't show anything, but I haven't looked much, and the subsequent events would overshadow any opposition that might have been there.
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Here's what happened. Anything else is cope and hope.
For a LONG time, people associated with trump, and trump himself, have been giving a platform to , for lack of a better term, maniacs. These folks have been pumping conspiracy theories about shadow government and the deep state, etc.
Normal people have been sharing it on social media, pumping it up and churning it into a frenzy.
A large chunk of those types of people went to the capitol yesterday
And after FOUR YEARS of this type of stuff ( DONT FORGET TO TRUST THE PLAN!!!!!111111oneoneoneeleventy) , they did something monumentally stupid
And now, people on the right who have been Larping about "1776!" "Tree of Liberty!" "WHY DONT ANYONE RESIST THIS TYRANNY" are like:
"Wait a minute... we didnt ACTUALLY want someone to do somethign! it must have been antifa!"
It's pathetic. Legions of trump supporters spent four years in LARP conspiracy theory land, while the democrats actually went out and pursued votes, instead of "Trusting the plan! Where we go 1, we go all!" nonsense.
And if the dems DID cheat, the Right LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT.
Then, someone DID go do something about it, and now yall are like "antifa! antifa!"
"And if the dems DID cheat, the Republican Party leadership LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT."
I fixed the only reasonable statement in your rant for you. The rest of it with the Q-anon stuff was over the top. Labeling most Trump supporters and others on the right as Q conspiracy theorists is almost as nutty as the Q-anon stuff itself.
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Thank you for telling me what I saw. You must have been looking over my shoulder. :facepalm:
would you like to see the original picture? There are tons of pics of horn dude all over the place, with Q signs, and posing with Rudy Giuliani.
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"And if the dems DID cheat, the Republican Party leadership LET IT HAPPEN, because "Q SAID THE FRAUD WILL BE REVEALED" so they LAID DOWN AND DIDNT DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT."
I fixed the only reasonable statement in your rant for you. The rest of it with the Q-anon stuff was over the top. Labeling most Trump supporters and others on the right as Q conspiracy theorists is almost as nutty as the Q-anon stuff itself.
the conspiracy crap had support up and down the republican party, including current and former members of trumps own cabinet, his staff, and a big chunk of people carrying signs to that effect.
The right has gone full retard.
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There was a lot of Q-anon and Kraken and such belief by otherwise rational people.
Trump was definitely an outlier but to believe there would be any draining of the swamp was an unrealistic belief. To do that you have to have teamwork and the people that effect such actions were all part of the swamp. He had a lot of populist support and that was it.
The Stimulus bill was passed by 92 out of 100 senators. The only person in Washington disappointed by the election results was Trump himself.
Trumps main value was the absolute pants shitting stupidity that he triggered in the left but in the end they are still winning.
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I'm not buying the Qanon influence over more than a fringe of people. I live in Republican country and nobody here even knows what it is. I've only seen it mentioned on the twitchy and here at APS, and I'm pretty sure I had to ask here what the hell it was, and I'm pretty sure I still don't know.
I think there is a big disconnect between people getting riled up on either side on the twitter and the facebook, and people who get their news elsewhere, or just go on about their business.
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A little more on horn dude:
https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/q-shaman-us-capitol-antifa-matt-gaetz-15852663.php
(I was going to call him Buffalo Man but I guess the costume isn't quite right)
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
[libtard]Well, she was a Trump supporter so she got what she deserved[/libtard]
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[libtard]Well, she was a Trump supporter so she got what she deserved[/libtard]
That is exactly what they are saying:
http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=63661.msg1287725#msg1287725
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
I'd bet they will say the officer was in fear for their safety, and there will be no more explaining.
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Just to be fair, isn't that what a lot of people said about various people shot by the police on the "other side?"
"If he would have just stopped resisting" etc?
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Just to be fair, isn't that what a lot of people said about various people shot by the police on the "other side?"
"If he would have just stopped resisting" etc?
You mean like the "unarmed" guy with a knife that was charging the police?
Or the great big guy that was trying to take the cops gun from him in a scuffle?
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You mean like the "unarmed" guy with a knife that was charging the police?
Or the great big guy that was trying to take the cops gun from him in a scuffle?
What usually happens when people try to get into a government installation over barricades and through a broken window etc?
What happens when people charge the white house lawn?
what happens when people hop fences and charge into military installations?
All i'm saying is a LOT of the same rhetoric is spewed by the right...
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The right really needs to decide how it feels about things right now :lol: :lol:
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
So the guy with the rifle was police and was signaling to the person on the other side of the door. Looked like he was trying to communicate a "stand down, we got this" kind of message. It looked like the girl was climbing through the window maybe, when she was shot.
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What usually happens when people try to get into a government installation over barricades and through a broken window etc?
You mean if we look all the way back to the past year?
The mayor condemns federal agents arresting rioters as fascist, lets the mob have a chunk of the city, and looks the other way when murders occur.
;)
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You mean if we look all the way back to the past year?
The mayor condemns federal agents arresting rioters as fascist, lets the mob have a chunk of the city, and looks the other way when murders occur.
;)
so again, what's the right call? Many people said letting the rioters do their thing was wrong. Now, a rioter climbing into a busted window getting shot is wrong. I have seen simple property crimes have people advocating for police "putting them down". And if that's how you feel, so be it. I can't exactly say it's wrong, even. But some level of consistency should be applied.
Like so many things in politics, the answer SEEMS to be "depends if the person being a hooligan agrees with me or not"
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This guy was within feet of the woman who was shot:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/07/most-often-used-hashtags-include-blm-and-antifa-slc-journos-thread-on-utah-man-who-stormed-the-u-s-capitol-a-must-read/
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
As much as I dislike how the crowds were acting, there's no way to explain what I just saw other than cold-blooded murder. She had no weapon. She was not inside the door. There were no officials or government actors being directly menaced. There were no officials even within object-throwing range, for that matter, much less any in some type of imminent danger. Yes, it appears she was climbing on the door frame and probably trying to break a window, but there was no apparent threat involved beyond what the rest of the crowd was evidencing. I think it's even more evidence that it was unwarranted when the uniformed officer standing behind her went immediately to full-ready with weapon pointed in what seemed to be the direction of the shooter.
If the DOJ doesn't hand the agent/officer involved his ass, and quickly, this will only serve to foment distrust and stoke anger among an already-volatile group. At the very least, the shooter is going to have a world of anger an hate laser-focused on them. It will surprise me greatly if the shooter wasn't soon being referenced in the same tone as Lon Horiuchi and Richard Rogers. Rightfully so, too, IMHO.
Brad
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NM.
duplicate.
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https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/capitol-rioters-should-be-barred-from-flights-home-flight-attendant-union-says/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3II10htHhoUaUF31VlyFXfThlIyZ11V9zM1RtbdJnly6Qk508KFd1xvw8#Echobox=1609997549
You know you are in trouble when you get on the wrong side of the flight attendant's union.
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Now, a rioter climbing into a busted window getting shot is wrong.
We probably, if it exists, need more video on that. I can't tell if she was climbing up and hanging there on on her side, or had partially climbed through. It certainly didn't look like she had made it all the way through or to any point that looked like she was being a threat. Another angle might prove me wrong. The guy in the suit behind her appeared to be an Agent and he didn't do anything to her other than immediately help her after the shot (and good on him).
In other riots, when people do what she did, I generally just see the cops push them back or smack them, and that's at open barricades with lots of people pushing through at once, not a single individual. This looked to be a single small opening she had to wriggle through.
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https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/man-who-posed-at-pelosi-desk-said-in-facebook-post-that-he-is-prepared-for-violent-death/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=owned_echobox_f&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0ZYUubX4Zt67BGcsalWLo1WP9JweUzJJ3louiafogfQL_WEthzprGCsx8#Echobox=1610032587
Mr. Barnett, are you a member here?
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We probably, if it exists, need more video on that. I can't tell if she was climbing up and hanging there on on her side, or had partially climbed through. It certainly didn't look like she had made it all the way through or to any point that looked like she was being a threat. Another angle might prove me wrong. The guy in the suit behind her appeared to be an Agent and he didn't do anything to her other than immediately help her after the shot (and good on him).
In other riots, when people do what she did, I generally just see the cops push them back or smack them, and that's at open barricades with lots of people pushing through at once, not a single individual. This looked to be a single small opening she had to wriggle through.
That is what I was thinking. What we have seen in the last year is cops do everything they can to avoid using a gun to the point of taking a beating themselves. I don't know if he tried something else prior to this since the video is short. I am curious if the SWAT guys in riot gear that showed up right after could have been there sooner.
Also, what was behind this door that was so important?
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That is what I was thinking. What we have seen in the last year is cops do everything they can to avoid using a gun to the point of taking a beating themselves. I don't know if he tried something else prior to this since the video is short. I am curious if the SWAT guys in riot gear that showed up right after could have been there sooner.
Also, what was behind this door that was so important?
that was the speakers chamber IIRC. It's entirely possible that some high ranking bumblehead was still in there which would explain the immediate response.
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Also, what was behind this door that was so important?
Your betters, dummy. =D
ETA and not so funny, Chris Murphy is in an uproar because the military didn't respond to protect his worthless ass.
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so again, what's the right call? Many people said letting the rioters do their thing was wrong. Now, a rioter climbing into a busted window getting shot is wrong. I have seen simple property crimes have people advocating for police "putting them down". And if that's how you feel, so be it. I can't exactly say it's wrong, even. But some level of consistency should be applied.
Like so many things in politics, the answer SEEMS to be "depends if the person being a hooligan agrees with me or not"
You're not wrong in noting the wild discrepancy in reaction to the same kind of activity based on whose team someone appears to be on.
That said, I don't think there is any hypocrisy in saying that her actions certainly justified arrest and possibly prosecution but did not appear to have yet risen to the level of lethal force while simultaneously noting that repeated actions that certainly did rise to the level of lethal force (i.e., attempted arson of an occupied building) have been handled much more gently and the responses were still criticized as too harsh.
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Keep in mind that all of this was happening inside Pelosi's house. That might explain the harsh response.
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I'm starting to read speculation that the shot was an unintentional discharge by a nervous officer with his finger on the trigger. Looking at the videos...hard to say definitively if that was an intentional shot or not, IMHO.
As for now, I'm staying off social media, and any other discussions of this.
I'm reading lefties saying that the Cap Police are complicit in this invasion, and should have been firing on the crowd as soon as the first barricade was crossed.
I read one admitted communist spouting that every person there should be tried and convicted of treason, hung in gallows on the Mall, and their corpses left to rot. He advocated for the entire Capital police force to be tried as co-conspirators for "allowing this to happen" and hung alongside the protesters.
I'm reading a lot of "if they were black" comments, comparing the lack of violence by the police here to the violence during the summer BLM riots.
I'm reading some conservative acquaintances saying "maybe there is a need for police reform given this violent attack on peaceful protesters at the capital."
Nothing I could say to any of these people means a damned thing anyways...
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That is not Pelosi's it Our House. But everyone has forgotten it.
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Unity!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/07/unity-and-healing-joe-biden-does-his-part-to-turn-storming-of-u-s-capitol-into-a-racial-controversy/
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/facebook-ban-capitol-protest-content-trump-account
Facebook announced it would ban and remove photos and videos from the protest at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C. The social media platform claims that photos and videos from Wednesday's events violate Facebook's policy of "promotion of criminal activity."
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I'm starting to read speculation that the shot was an unintentional discharge by a nervous officer with his finger on the trigger. Looking at the videos...hard to say definitively if that was an intentional shot or not, IMHO.
The video that Ben posted above is pretty damning. The shooter takes a step from behind cover, aims, and the shot rings out. Hard to call that "unintentional discharge due to nervousness".
Brad
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/facebook-ban-capitol-protest-content-trump-account
https://www.theblaze.com/news/facebook-ban-capitol-protest-content-trump-account
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
NOW they dont want to encourage criminal activity?!?!?!?
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/facebook-ban-capitol-protest-content-trump-account
I am having the same issue with Imgur, either over capacity or their current events link is a 404 page. Is someone trying to supress images and what could be construed as sympathetic to the mostly peaceful protesters yesterday?
bob
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
NOW they dont want to encourage criminal activity?!?!?!?
It is stupid anyway. Banning it on their site doesn't make it go away.
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Different angle on the shooting. Seems like they'll have a lot of explaining to do regarding justification. Especially with cops being right near her on her side of the door from what I can tell.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
I have a video of the shooting on my hard drive, it was not provoked, it was not a "in fear of my life", it was not a nervous rookie. It was a deliberate act from several feet away. Once Imgur comes back up I will save and post.
bob
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From Babylon Bee:
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-7721-2.jpg)
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Unity!
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/07/unity-and-healing-joe-biden-does-his-part-to-turn-storming-of-u-s-capitol-into-a-racial-controversy/
Has he seen the last few BLM protests? I seemed to be mostly white people. At least those were the ones arrested for riot activities.
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I saw meme on Instagram. The officer wasn't going to shoot, but the woman asked him about his vehicle's extended warranty.
And another "We could have stormed Area 51 after all!" :rofl:
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That is not Pelosi's it Our House. But everyone has forgotten it.
Pretty much my point. The congresscritters think it belongs to them.
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Advancing Justice-LA
@AAAJ_LA
"You saw peaceful protests across the country over the summer after George Floyd's murder. And what do we see in response? We saw tear gas. We saw rubber bullets. We saw the vitriol. We saw the aggression of police in responding to that peaceful protest."
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(https://i.imgur.com/rV8JbeH.png)
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"Pearl Harbor".
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/06/sen-chuck-schumer-compares-storming-of-the-capitol-to-pearl-harbor/
I'm starting to feel like this guy:
Part two of my three part plan for living through the death of America - laying low in the sticks and being an outlaw against progressive laws - sounds about right for me these days.
I'm executing this plan in 6 months.
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I'm executing this plan in 6 months.
And much like Pearl Harbor, this will be an excuse to go to war
Our way of life is dying
And the right will allow it, with a whimper
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(https://i.imgur.com/rV8JbeH.png)
Michelle Obama just called for Trump and any conservatives who think like him to be banned for life from facebook and the twitters. They'll probably do what she tells them.
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Michelle Obama just called for Trump and any conservatives who think like him to be banned for life from facebook and the twitters. They'll probably do what she tells them.
Good for Parler.
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Why would anyone care what Michelle O says?
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Wasn’t T.O.M. a neighbor of the Obamas back before they got all famous? I think I remember him telling stories about the vitriol MO would spew about conservatives even back then.
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I am hoping this works. Here is the video of the woman being shot in the Capitol yesterday. Standard disclaimer, if violence bothers you just move along.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWEO4ENZ.mp4&hash=ab218a574a570a7b3b455a3f1170f20368ab4559)here (https://imgur.com/WEO4ENZ)
bob
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Link works, but no audio.
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The same video, with audio, can be seen via twitchy:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/07/new-graphic-video-shows-the-shooting-of-ashli-babbitt-from-a-different-angle/
(not trying to rain on BobR's parade)
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No rain, I was just now able to find it on twitter. https://twitter.com/thejaydenxander/status/1347056697899163648
Some sites are taking it down faster than it is going up. =|
bob
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Someone should post it on Parler. It's less likely to be removed there.
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I've been away from my PC, work has been too nuts to follow this train wreck.
On the murder of Ashli Babbitt. Suppose she'd succeeded in climbing through that window. It would be one unarmed woman in a hall, separated from the rest of the group.. Maybe arrest her?
Shooting her dead was reasonable, it's what you do when protesters go some place you don't want them. They've been gunning them down by the job lot on the west coast. Didn't you all see the the 10's of thousands of dead antifa/blm? [barf]
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And much like Pearl Harbor, this will be an excuse to go to war
Our way of life is dying being murdered like a bunch of unwanted Jews and Gypsies.
And the right will allow it, with a whimper
Fixt for Fitz
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I've been away from my PC, work has been too nuts to follow this train wreck.
On the murder of Ashli Babbitt. Suppose she'd succeeded in climbing through that window. It would be one unarmed woman in a hall, separated from the rest of the group.. Maybe arrest her?
Perhaps she was murdered by the Capitol Police so they could charge the other protesters with felony murder?
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Reports through my military connection: a recon corpsman was there, and as they were exiting the capitol building a woman 5 feet from him was shot in the head with a beanbag round, range from shooter to woman was about 10 feet, one of the dead from "medical emergency". He himself was shot in the back of the neck with a rubber bullet also upon exiting the capitol building.
And we've already got the video of a blue helmeted cop pushing someone off a ledge onto concrete, and the SS shooting the unarmed veteran in the throat at point blank.
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Wasn’t T.O.M. a neighbor of the Obamas back before they got all famous? I think I remember him telling stories about the vitriol MO would spew about conservatives even back then.
Not me. Sorry.
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And we've already got the video of a blue helmeted cop pushing someone off a ledge onto concrete, and the SS shooting the unarmed veteran in the throat at point blank.
Minor nitpick: Ms. Babbitt's killer is U.S. Capitol Police. The officer is on administrative leave.
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1347211904838737920
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Minor nitpick: Ms. Babbitt's killer is U.S. Capitol Police. The officer is on administrative leave.
https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/1347211904838737920
Ah, was going by his attire in this video. Well I'm sure he will enjoy his vacation before being cleared of any wrong doing.
https://imgur.com/WEO4ENZ (https://imgur.com/WEO4ENZ)
ETA: Forgot to say thank you for the info and correcting my mistake. So, thank you. =)
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Comply or Die :police:
That was getting a lot of support from 'servatives until recently. How shortsighted.
BTW Trump seem to have pulled a complete 180. I wonder what they offered him, something unrefuseable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFADopBnb_U
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Apparently one of the wounded was a capitol police officer who was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher, and he has died. That is as tragic as the woman being shot. I myself called for the bat wielding antifa to be shot on sight, and the same should go for whoever hit the cop in the head with the fire extinguisher. That's a deadly weapon.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/07/us-capitol-police-officer-dies-after-being-struck-with-a-fire-extinguisher/
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Apparently one of the wounded was a capitol police officer who was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher, and he has died. That is as tragic as the woman being shot. I myself called for the bat wielding antifa to be shot on sight, and the same should go for whoever hit the cop in the head with the fire extinguisher. That's a deadly weapon.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/07/us-capitol-police-officer-dies-after-being-struck-with-a-fire-extinguisher/
And what about the cop pushing a guy off a ledge to fall 20+ feet onto concrete?
The one with a 12 gauge shooting less lethal into people's heads at point blank is more or less straight forward; return fire.
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whoever hit the cop in the head with the fire extinguisher. That's a deadly weapon.
Depends
If the person swinging the fire extinguisher is conservative then it's a weapon of mass destruction.
If the person swinging the fire extinguisher is ANIFA, BLM, or similar then it's an innocent basket of goodies for grandma.
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Tucker weighs in and his comments are spot on.
https://rumble.com/vcirtt-everyone-needs-to-hear-what-tucker-carlson-said-about-yesterday.html (https://rumble.com/vcirtt-everyone-needs-to-hear-what-tucker-carlson-said-about-yesterday.html)
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It appears CNN jumped the gun on reporting the cop's death:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/07/us-capitol-police-officer-dies-after-being-struck-with-a-fire-extinguisher/
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(https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/401/094/original/1501c9bb92cba691.jpeg)
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On the broader subject of political violence:
https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1347154640039718912
Political violence is always wrong and should never be tolerated from anyone. Once "protesters" threaten lives and property, their grievances and ideology should become absolutely irrelevant to the situation.
That is, obviously, not the country we live in.
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When violence becomes acceptable from one party and its clients, one ideology, it becomes an instrument of authoritarianism. That's why authoritarian regimes frequently have violent vigilante groups roaming the streets in addition to their vast security and military forces.
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Either political violence is rejected in total - from everyone, for any reason, no matter who they are or what they believe - or it isn't. Once the tolerance level is no longer zero, we become locked in a vicious and endless struggle to control exactly what the level should be.
Much more at the link.
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derp
I blame using phones for anything but making calls.
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*sigh*
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At what point does political violence become a fight for freedom and liberty? Just asking for the Declaration of Independence.
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At what point does political violence become a fight for freedom and liberty? Just asking for the Declaration of Independence.
When people actually do more than steal hard drives and pose for pictures
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It appears CNN jumped the gun on reporting the cop's death:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/07/us-capitol-police-officer-dies-after-being-struck-with-a-fire-extinguisher/
Not dead, but on life support:
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/07/politics/capitol-police-officer-dead-after-riot/index.html
Also from CNN, so it might be wrong as well.
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When all is said and done, I'd like to see a damage accounting for this treasonous insurrection and violent riot and compare it with the damage left in the wake of the peaceful protests staged by BLM in Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, etc.
Somehow I don't think a few broken windows and such will equal the peaceful looting spree on Chicago's Magnificent Mile, peaceful torching of Wendy's, AutoZone, and other stores, peaceful looting of Target, peaceful CHOP/CHAZ establishment, peaceful torching of a police station, peaceful torching of police and other vehicles, etc.
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When all is said and done, I'd like to see a damage accounting for this treasonous insurrection and violent riot and compare it with the damage left in the wake of the peaceful protests staged by BLM in Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, etc.
Somehow I don't think a few broken windows and such will equal the peaceful looting spree on Chicago's Magnificent Mile, peaceful torching of Wendy's, AutoZone, and other stores, peaceful looting of Target, peaceful CHOP/CHAZ establishment, peaceful torching of a police station, peaceful torching of police and other vehicles, etc.
Americans have mastered the art of not seeing things and living in cognitive dissonance.
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Starting to see corporations issuing statements denouncing the events in the capital and besmirching the thousands in attendance.
This is in stark contrast to the lockstep support BLM/Antifa receive to this day from EVERY SINGLE CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENT mouthpiece.
What tiny percentage of the attendees were engaged in the vandalism?
Anybody else see the video of the capital police backing away and letting the vandals in?
What percentage of the attendees did nothing wrong and acted perfectly civil?
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It doesn't matter. We are at war and in war truth is the first casualty. Regrettably so.
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Starting to see corporations issuing statements denouncing the events in the capital and besmirching the thousands in attendance.
This is in stark contrast to the lockstep support BLM/Antifa receive to this day from EVERY SINGLE CORPORATE AND GOVERNMENT mouthpiece.
What tiny percentage of the attendees were engaged in the vandalism?
Anybody else see the video of the capital police backing away and letting the vandals in?
What percentage of the attendees did nothing wrong and acted perfectly civil?
While there was a little of this with some identified antifa rioters, this is ridiculous. These businesses are not just firing employees who were rioters, they are firing anyone who showed up to protest. I just read some 56 year old lady was fired, and all she did was show up in DC and sing the National Anthem.
I want to be fair about calling out this rioting the same as the antifa rioting, but I'm seeing 100X the outrage over this compared to any of the hundreds of antifa riots, and also nothing but "these people were treated with kid gloves because "RACISM!". If this were a BLM protest and a black woman were killed by police in the same way this white woman was killed, we would be seeing burning buildings in the usual big cities across the country.
Yes, this was a bad thing, but it didn't approach many of the antifa riots we have seen throughout the year. The over the top outrage is making it hard for me to to look at the incident and response in an unbiased manner. I just want all these loudmouthed SJW people in politics and the MSM to go to hell, I want twitter and facebook to die, and I want to lay low and be left alone. I'm becoming disgusted with my country.
ETA: I also notice "unbiased" news sources like NPR are calling this not a riot, but "insurrection against the United States". Far cry from "mostly peaceful".
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Also, here's a photo of the overall rally. What percentage of these people were "violent insurrectionists"? If you want to talk about "mostly peaceful", here's an example:
(https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2021/01/06/Washington-DC-rally-2-700x420.jpg)
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Yes, this was a bad thing, but it didn't approach many of the antifa riots we have seen throughout the year. The over the top outrage is making it hard for me to to look at the incident and response in an unbiased manner. I just want all these loudmouthed SJW people in politics and the MSM to go to hell, I want twitter and facebook to die, and I want to lay low and be left alone. I'm becoming disgusted with my country.
Well said.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/trump-self-pardon.html?searchResultPosition=1
It will be interesting to see if the President pardons himself before leaving office. Or an alternative method would be to resign on January 19th and have President Pence pardon him on the way out.
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It looks like the only shooting to have occurred during this demonstration was done by law enforcement.
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Yes, this was a bad thing, but it didn't approach many of the antifa riots we have seen throughout the year. The over the top outrage is making it hard for me to to look at the incident and response in an unbiased manner. I just want all these loudmouthed SJW people in politics and the MSM to go to hell, I want twitter and facebook to die, and I want to lay low and be left alone. I'm becoming disgusted with my country.
This articulates the feeling that I and many, many people have right now.
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Depends
If the person swinging the fire extinguisher is conservative then it's a weapon of mass destruction.
If the person swinging the fire extinguisher is ANIFA, BLM, or similar then it's an innocent basket of goodies for grandma.
Also depends on if the person who hit a cop with the extinguisher was protecting someone else. Might have been another cop throwing "less lethal" rounds at point blank or something like that.
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Also depends on if the person who hit a cop with the extinguisher was protecting someone else. Might have been another cop throwing "less lethal" rounds at point blank or something like that.
That won’t matter
When conservative activists occupied a state house the left was literally calling for their murder
The cop will be used as a martyr to end conservatism in the United States
The aftermath of this is the end of American liberty
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Yes, this was a bad thing, but it didn't approach many of the antifa riots we have seen throughout the year. The over the top outrage is making it hard for me to to look at the incident and response in an unbiased manner. I just want all these loudmouthed SJW people in politics and the MSM to go to hell, I want twitter and facebook to die, and I want to lay low and be left alone. I'm becoming disgusted with my country.
ETA: I also notice "unbiased" news sources like NPR are calling this not a riot, but "insurrection against the United States". Far cry from "mostly peaceful".
In a discussion about what the rulers are going to do next the smartest thing I've heard was the comment:
"Don’t worry about their agenda. Worry about your agenda."
The government/media complex is all "Strawberry Fields Forever". Nothing is as it seems.
We must insulate ourselves from the system as much as is possible.
https://genius.com/The-beatles-strawberry-fields-forever-lyrics
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In a discussion about what the rulers are going to do next the smartest thing I've heard was the comment:
"Don’t worry about their agenda. Worry about your agenda."
The government/media complex is all "Strawberry Fields Forever". Nothing is as it seems.
We must insulate ourselves from the system as much as is possible.
Possibly unpopular opinion:
Laying low and insulating yourself from a system that's becoming increasing tumultuous works for the early stages of the collapse. However, inevitably it will reorganize, and the reorganizers will need a scapegoat to blame the problems on and shift public anger away from themselves. For instance, look to the early stages of the USSR. Dropping out works for now, but consider in time, you may need to expatriate to avoid becoming a casualty of political violence. =( Plan accordingly.
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That won’t matter
When conservative activists occupied a state house the left was literally calling for their murder
The cop will be used as a martyr to end crimanilze conservatism in the United States
The aftermath of this is the end of American liberty
Fixed it for you . . . .
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Possibly unpopular opinion:
Laying low and insulating yourself from a system that's becoming increasing tumultuous works for the early stages of the collapse. However, inevitably it will reorganize, and the reorganizers will need a scapegoat to blame the problems on and shift public anger away from themselves. For instance, look to the early stages of the USSR. Dropping out works for now, but consider in time, you may need to expatriate to avoid becoming a casualty of political violence. =( Plan accordingly.
I don't think that's an unpopular opinion. Calling myself an outlaw sounds cool, but the only reason I can lay low is because I am a little, tiny, miniscule fish in a big pond. All the income that allows me to do that comes from electronic accounts. The gov could wipe me out with a few keystrokes on somebody's computer if they decided they need to teach me a lesson on who my master is.
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https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2021-01-07/capitol-police-chief-to-resign-next-week-reports
Sen. Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on Thursday that the police forces protecting the Capitol should have been much more forceful in their response.
"Warning shots should have been fired and lethal force should have been used," the South Carolina Republican and close ally of Trump's said, adding that backpacks the protesters were carrying could have contained bombs. "If this is not a wake-up call, I don't know what is."
That's a ration of horseshit, Graham. There's no precedent for explosives deployment in this political movement. I know there were reportedly IED's put in place at the Republican and Democrat party headquarters in DC during this, but I'm rather skeptical of the truth of that. No one was armed at this protest at the Capitol. I don't see bombs getting deployed if there was no gunfire exchange with Capitol police, given that firearms are so much simpler to obtain and deploy than explosives. Even those of you with kitchen improvisation knowledge, building the energetic component as well as a reliable remote/timed detonator is more complicated than obtaining a firearm and a little ammo. Graham is throwing a massive conjectured/hypothetical out there just to suit his desired outcome.
Pelosi is also calling for Sund to resign, and major prosecutions. Full on fed cases involving terrorism and the like.
My takeaway is that if you shoot an unarmed mob who are protesting at the Capitol, and throw terrorism charges and them, and they have a serious enough grievance to amass tens of thousands of people... and those people did little/minimal damage to the government building in question... then the next time that mob will not be unarmed. And you don't have enough police officers for that.
But I come from this having supported the BLM movement's attacks on government buildings and police precincts. They lost my support when they started attacking businesses and intimidating lay people. If they had pulled a modern day Huey Newton instead, I'd have been so supportive.
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President Trump says he will not attend Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20
https://www.wlky.com/article/president-trump-says-he-will-not-attend-bidens-inauguration-on-jan-20/35163314
It will be just the fourth time in history that an outgoing president has skipped the swearing-in ceremony of his successor. John Adams in 1801, John Quincy Adams in 1829 and Andrew Johnson in 1869 all refused to attend their successors' inaugurations, according to CNN.
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"Warning shots should have been fired and lethal force should have been used," the South Carolina Republican and close ally of Trump's said, adding that backpacks the protesters were carrying could have contained bombs. "If this is not a wake-up call, I don't know what is."
So we want cops to use lethal force on anyone carrying a backpack because it might have a bomb in it?
Now say that statement again, but reference antifa and BLM.
I think one of the more disgusting things to me is the "conservative" legislators that are screaming outrage louder than the left. I expect crap like this from Pelosi. Sounds to me like a lot of these conservatives suddenly jumping on the "domestic terrorists" bandwagon are doing so not just for political optics, but because somebody came to their place of business for a change instead burning down some regular Joe's store.
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And we're down to this, with asswipes like Jim Acosta lapping it up.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/08/nancy-pelosis-working-hard-to-convince-people-trumps-thinking-about-using-nukes-on-his-way-out-the-door/
Did I already mention I'm getting disgusted by my country? This is a simply abhorrent old hag.
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So we want cops to use lethal force on anyone carrying a backpack because it might have a bomb in it?
Now say that statement again, but reference antifa and BLM.
I think one of the more disgusting things to me is the "conservative" legislators that are screaming outrage louder than the left. I expect crap like this from Pelosi. Sounds to me like a lot of these conservatives suddenly jumping on the "domestic terrorists" bandwagon are doing so not just for political optics, but because somebody came to their place of business for a change instead burning down some regular Joe's store.
That's a good point. I think it's also very much because politicians have to be able to sense the way the wind blows. Dissent from the prevailing groupthink is going to be damaging to their career.
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Senator Graham should feel free to volunteer as a trigger puller and experience his recommendations first hand.
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And we're down to this, with asswipes like Jim Acosta lapping it up.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/08/nancy-pelosis-working-hard-to-convince-people-trumps-thinking-about-using-nukes-on-his-way-out-the-door/
Did I already mention I'm getting disgusted by my country? This is a simply abhorrent old hag.
And when nothing happens the MSM will proclaim Pelosis the savior of the world by taking the launch codes from a madman.
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Biden and/or Harris with the launch codes frightens me a lot more than Trump.
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Biden and/or Harris with the launch codes frightens me a lot more than Trump.
It will be a 93% peaceful launch
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It will be a 93% peaceful launch
Sure, but that 7% is a real bitch.
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And we're down to this, with asswipes like Jim Acosta lapping it up.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/08/nancy-pelosis-working-hard-to-convince-people-trumps-thinking-about-using-nukes-on-his-way-out-the-door/
Did I already mention I'm getting disgusted by my country? This is a simply abhorrent old hag.
Here is my take. They want to make Trump such a pariah that not only will he be unable to every think about running for President again but anyone remotely connected will be tainted. This is also a warning to others, don't come into our house and attempt to change the status quo we have taken decades to establish. We will get you in the end, if not sooner!
bob
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Possibly unpopular opinion:
Laying low and insulating yourself from a system that's becoming increasing tumultuous works for the early stages of the collapse. However, inevitably it will reorganize, and the reorganizers will need a scapegoat to blame the problems on and shift public anger away from themselves. For instance, look to the early stages of the USSR. Dropping out works for now, but consider in time, you may need to expatriate to avoid becoming a casualty of political violence. =( Plan accordingly.
Book: "You got a plan?"
Mal: "Hiding ain't a plan?"
Book: "It'll do you for a spell."
Nick makes some good points, but becoming an expatriate isn't any sort of solution.
At the risk of sounding jingoistic, the United States is the last bastion of liberty in the world. If it falls to socialism/authoritarianism/totalitarianism, if the light of liberty is extinguished here, then it is extinguished everywhere. If it comes to that, we have to stand and fight. This is our country, not theirs.
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Book: "You got a plan?"
Mal: "Hiding ain't a plan?"
Book: "It'll do you for a spell."
Nick makes some good points, but becoming an expatriate isn't any sort of solution.
At the risk of sounding jingoistic, the United States is the last bastion of liberty in the world. If it falls to socialism/authoritarianism/totalitarianism, if the light of liberty is extinguished here, then it is extinguished everywhere. If it comes to that, we have to stand and fight. This is our country, not theirs.
And yet the resistance took pics, smeared poo, got one lady shot, and now things are gonna get worse
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And yet the resistance took pics, smeared poo, got one lady shot, and now things are gonna get worse
That's because it was a group of right wing idiots, with the same outlook on political rallies as left wing idiots. They are social events, to be crowed about on social media, to meet up with fellow activists and have a good time and reaffirm one anothers' political views.
None of those people there had a tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to actually seize the House Floor. Much like the BLM activists had no tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to seize a police station or court building.
On a serious note, how likely does anyone think it is that we'll see any of the following State level actions in the next four years?:
-Mandatory paper ballots
-Mandatory release of source code for electronic voting systems
-Creation of distributed block chain voting systems
-Elimination or reduction of mail in ballots
-Creation of felony crimes and assignment of specific responsibilities of elections staff at precincts to enforce auditability of elections
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if vote tampering is demonstrated
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if the precinct political party leaders don't sign off on the count process
-Legislative audit and destruction of vote processes put in place by unauthorized parties, such as Secretaries of States or Governors
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And yet the resistance took pics, smeared poo ...
I missed the smeared poo.
... got one lady shot ...
May have killed a police officer, as well.
and now things are gonna get worse
I'm not condoning what happened at the Capitol, just to be clear.
Yes, things are going to get worse, perhaps a lot worse.
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That's because it was a group of right wing idiots, with the same outlook on political rallies as left wing idiots. They are social events, to be crowed about on social media, to meet up with fellow activists and have a good time and reaffirm one anothers' political views.
None of those people there had a tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to actually seize the House Floor. Much like the BLM activists had no tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to seize a police station or court building.
On a serious note, how likely does anything think it is that we'll see any of the following State level actions in the next four years?:
-Mandatory paper ballots
-Mandatory release of source code for electronic voting systems
-Creation of distributed block chain voting systems
-Elimination or reduction of mail in ballots
-Creation of felony crimes and assignment of specific responsibilities of elections staff at precincts to enforce auditability of elections
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if vote tampering is demonstrated
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if the precinct political party leaders don't sign off on the count process
-Legislative audit and destruction of vote processes put in place by unauthorized parties, such as Secretaries of States or Governors
There will be no improvements in election accountability or procedures
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Also, here's a photo of the overall rally. What percentage of these people were "violent insurrectionists"? If you want to talk about "mostly peaceful", here's an example:
(https://img.theepochtimes.com/assets/uploads/2021/01/06/Washington-DC-rally-2-700x420.jpg)
So about 50 to 75 people?
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93% peaceful
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That's because it was a group of right wing idiots, with the same outlook on political rallies as left wing idiots. They are social events, to be crowed about on social media, to meet up with fellow activists and have a good time and reaffirm one anothers' political views.
None of those people there had a tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to actually seize the House Floor. Much like the BLM activists had no tangible action plan to create the change they wanted if they happened to seize a police station or court building.
On a serious note, how likely does anyone think it is that we'll see any of the following State level actions in the next four years?:
-Mandatory paper ballots
-Mandatory release of source code for electronic voting systems
-Creation of distributed block chain voting systems
-Elimination or reduction of mail in ballots
-Creation of felony crimes and assignment of specific responsibilities of elections staff at precincts to enforce auditability of elections
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if vote tampering is demonstrated
-Nullification of a precinct's entire vote tally if the precinct political party leaders don't sign off on the count process
-Legislative audit and destruction of vote processes put in place by unauthorized parties, such as Secretaries of States or Governors
I will take bets on the opposite of all of those. I just heard this morning that Pelosi is seriously considering the "16 years old to vote" thing. Also making DC a state, so two more dem senators.
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I will take bets on the opposite of all of those. I just heard this morning that Pelosi is seriously considering the "16 years old to vote" thing. Also making DC a state, so two more dem senators.
All of these are State level action items.
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Not DC, but I think this is what we can start looking forward to, especially after Biden's announcement that they will be redefining "domestic terrorist". Every big corporation is going to panic react first, and maybe, if it doesn't get them in trouble with the people who lied about an incident in the first place, correct their mistake after the innocent victim has been social media shamed. I'm not counting on the latter.
I only thank God everyday that I'm no longer in any kind of position where people could cancel me like this.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/01/08/tariq-nasheed-just-got-a-violent-suspected-white-supremacist-fired-from-toyota-for-pulling-a-black-woman-out-of-harms-way-at-la-protest/
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There will be no improvements in election accountability or procedures
The states that would implement such measures aren’t the problem states.
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The states that would implement such measures aren’t the problem states.
What he said.
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You don't think there's enough sensible bipartisan support in Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Florida and the like to implement any of that?
Gotta keep in mind, there was a lot of Trump hate that crept into what are typically Red voters.
And this issue can be sold to the public in a populist manner quite easily.
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You don't think there's enough sensible bipartisan support in Wisconsin, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Florida and the like to implement any of that?
Sadly, no I don't. The only way you will get bipartisan support is if the dem ox is gored by what you want to fix. Right now, all that stuff is an advantage to them.
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Then BLM style riotous behavior is the only solution, short of real revolution. Make life so uncomfortable for them that they yield, much the same as the BLM tactic.
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Sadly, no I don't. The only way you will get bipartisan support is if the dem ox is gored by what you want to fix. Right now, all that stuff is an advantage to them.
Yep.
The democrats have to back the idea that the system works perfectly as is and doesn't need to be fixed. They can't open the door to improvements while simultaneously saying that anyone claiming that the election was less than perfectly conducted is a conspiracy theorist.
Republican controlled states may improve election security, but that is about it.
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Then BLM style riotous behavior is the only solution, short of real revolution. Make life so uncomfortable for them that they yield, much the same as the BLM tactic.
1. That sucked with BLM did it and it would suck if the right did it.
2. BLM was only able to continue because they had the backing of the metro areas they were doing it in, the media, and all the major tech platforms. The right does not have that.
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1. That sucked with BLM did it and it would suck if the right did it.
2. BLM was only able to continue because they had the backing of the metro areas they were doing it in, the media, and all the major tech platforms. The right does not have that.
Bundies came out high and dry both times. Well, except Lavoy Finicum.
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A way forward is perhaps to retreat into the States, counties, municipalities school boards and vote the poo out at the local level. Freedom loving people have got to get organized and active and rebuild from the ground up because the top is rotten beyond salvation.
The weakness of freedom loving individuals is that they just want to get by and no be involved.. the problem is that people who don't quite hve the same ideals will get YOU involved whether you like it or not, and most likely put you on the short end of the stick.
Now we have to define exactly what the poo is. The usual labels of "left", "liberal", "dems" just doesn't cover it.
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Video shows Capitol police opening the doors and letting protestors inside:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/01/08/wtf-is-going-on-here-video-shows-capitol-police-opening-the-doors-standing-aside-and-inviting-protesters-inside/
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It appears the dems may be able to impeach Trump before he leaves office which would, you know, totally heal and unify the country. ;/
At this point it's just spite. There are also Rs that will vote for this, and with the baseline being not 2/3s, but 2/3s present to vote, it only takes a bunch of spineless Rs that are afraid for their political careers to simply not show up to vote.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but if they go through with such a spiteful action, you'll never again here me say on this forum, "yeah, but there are some dems we can at least debate with". I'll then never give any dem the benefit of the doubt again. What they're doing is scorched Earth.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/will-democrats-impeach-trump-how-it-works
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It appears the dems may be able to impeach Trump before he leaves office which would, you know, totally heal and unify the country. ;/
At this point it's just spite. There are also Rs that will vote for this, and with the baseline being not 2/3s, but 2/3s present to vote, it only takes a bunch of spineless Rs that are afraid for their political careers to simply not show up to vote.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but if they go through with such a spiteful action, you'll never again here me say on this forum, "yeah, but there are some dems we can at least debate with". I'll then never give any dem the benefit of the doubt again. What they're doing is scorched Earth.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/will-democrats-impeach-trump-how-it-works
Good
We need a complete breakdown imo
It’s nearly time
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Good
We need a complete breakdown imo
It’s nearly time
I suspect you'll be getting your wish, soon.
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I've made the mistake before of voting for a Democrat because the NRA endorsed him. As soon as he got to Washington, he *expletive deleted*ed us over every chance he got on gun rights issues. Never again. That doesn't mean I will always vote for the Republican because they think I'm obligated to.
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That doesn't mean I will always vote for the Republican because they think I'm obligated to.
This too.
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1. That sucked with BLM did it and it would suck if the right did it.
2. BLM was only able to continue because they had the backing of the metro areas they were doing it in, the media, and all the major tech platforms. The right does not have that.
There were also groups of lawyers with funding providing legal support and protection.
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I'm happy that rioters stormed the capital building. Let that be a wakeup call to all politicians. Politicians can be reached, can be touched, can be affected by the policies they preach. Politicians are not a protected class or superhuman; they are just humans and humans can be easily hurt.
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I'm happy that rioters stormed the capital building. Let that be a wakeup call to all politicians. Politicians can be reached, can be touched, can be affected by the policies they preach. Politicians are not a protected class or superhuman; they are just humans and humans can be easily hurt.
As long as we understand their reaction is likely not to give us back our rights, but to go overboard on the authoritarian security and control.
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Good
We need a complete breakdown imo
It’s nearly time
A few years back, I was worried that we would see another civil war in my lifetime.
Now I'm worried we're not going to make it through the next 4 years before it kicks off.
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As long as we understand their reaction is likely not to give us back our rights, but to go overboard on the authoritarian security and control.
Your rights are not given to you by another person.
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https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-cyber/update-3-laptop-stolen-from-pelosis-office-during-storming-of-u-s-capitol-says-aide-idUSL1N2JJ1ZT
Whomever took it needs to get it public.
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As long as we understand their reaction is likely not to give us back our rights, but to go overboard on the authoritarian security and control.
They are already doing that, maybe some fear and Mayham iswhat they need
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Twitter has permabanned Trump. Not regarding anything he said since his account was unlocked, but because he MIGHT say something.
This is so dangerous I cannot say. Again, twitter must die. I haven't been one of the "civil war" people, but if it starts, twitter and facebook and google will be major reasons why. This is absolutely totalitarian, and it's not even being done by the actual government. This is serious *expletive deleted*it.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/08/siren-twitter-has-permanently-suspended-donald-trump/
The left is throwing the term "insurrection" around about others while they are actually practicing it.
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if it starts
It already has, just not the shooting part yet.
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The amazing thing is trump is just the distraction while the con moves the shell. Congress couldn’t decide if AOC should bring still or sparkling water to the chamber in 12 days. The impeachment is about sliding in Raskin’s 25th amendment change to let congress remove a president. That’s a coup.
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It appears the dems may be able to impeach Trump before he leaves office which would, you know, totally heal and unify the country. ;/
At this point it's just spite. There are also Rs that will vote for this, and with the baseline being not 2/3s, but 2/3s present to vote, it only takes a bunch of spineless Rs that are afraid for their political careers to simply not show up to vote.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but if they go through with such a spiteful action, you'll never again here me say on this forum, "yeah, but there are some dems we can at least debate with". I'll then never give any dem the benefit of the doubt again. What they're doing is scorched Earth.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/will-democrats-impeach-trump-how-it-works
I've been there for a while. There was one "downstate" (not Chicago) D. who was instrumental in getting IL it's carry law. And I still think Glen Poshard would have been a better gov. than nominal R. George <spit!> Ryan. But, now?
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Seems like this thread is a fitting place for this:
Now Apple will likely be removing Parler from the Apple store. So if it's not the actual social media site banning people, now the, basically service providers, are banning entire platforms if they don't toe the progressive line. Given the whole reason Parler was started, I doubt they will comply. Then if Google does the same thing to them, they are basically dead in the water.
I mean, I don't even need my tinfoil anymore. This is total communication control.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/08/did-aoc-do-this-apple-threatens-to-kick-parler-out-of-the-app-store/
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It already has, just not the shooting part yet.
There is very little conventional fighting in fourth generation warfare.
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Seems like this thread is a fitting place for this:
Now Apple will likely be removing Parler from the Apple store. So if it's not the actual social media site banning people, now the, basically service providers, are banning entire platforms if they don't toe the progressive line. Given the whole reason Parler was started, I doubt they will comply. Then if Google does the same thing to them, they are basically dead in the water.
I mean, I don't even need my tinfoil anymore. This is total communication control.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/08/did-aoc-do-this-apple-threatens-to-kick-parler-out-of-the-app-store/
Went to the Google store. Already gone.
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Does Parler have a downloadable APK file for "sideloading" the app? (bypassing Google Play) I couldn't find one.
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How is his not a monopoly/antitrust type of move?
Granted, our current legal system overlords wouldn't rule against it.
I'm starting to feel like this week is the watershed moment that will mark the beginning the end of he Republic as we knew it.
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Went to the Google store. Already gone.
Yup:
https://twitter.com/TheRalphRetort/status/1347706702976724999
Silence dissent.
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How is his not a monopoly/antitrust type of move?
Granted, our current legal system overlords wouldn't rule against it.
I'm starting to feel like this week is the watershed moment that will mark the beginning the end of he Republic as we knew it.
Agreed.
All the noise of "Trump crossing the Rubicon". He had a rally, riled up a bunch of useful idiots and left us holding the bag. And now the establishment would vote for full confiscation of all guns, "reparations", and re-education camps to avoid being painted with the same brush.
Trump might be pussed out ( and I never thought he wouldn't), but the die is most certainly cast for the rest of us.
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President-elect Clark and the Nightwatch aren't wasting any time.
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Does Parler have a downloadable APK file for "sideloading" the app? (bypassing Google Play) I couldn't find one.
Not exactly what you were asking, but ...
https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/1347707126161006599
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Agreed.
All the noise of "Trump crossing the Rubicon". He had a rally, riled up a bunch of useful idiots and left us holding the bag. And now the establishment would vote for full confiscation of all guns, "reparations", and re-education camps to avoid being painted with the same brush.
Trump might be pussed out ( and I never thought he wouldn't), but the die is most certainly cast for the rest of us.
They would do that anyway even without this.
Everyone in Washington cares only about power and money. Long as they can pass laws and bills with impunity to give themselves such they all will. Throwing us a bone on stuff like gun laws and such is just to buy our votes and they no longer have to worry about votes.
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Not exactly what you were asking, but ...
https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status/1347707126161006599
I did find an APK file for Parler, but not on Parler's website. They need to host it themselves -- although I wonder who their ISP is? (I suspect the ISP will jump on the bandwagon and shut them down.)
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Trump is saying he will make his own site.
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Trump is saying he will make his own site.
How many minutes until it is likewise blocked and banned?
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You can really start to feel the clench of tyranny now huh? And it's not coming from Government per se, in fact Government and Law is being bypassed to achieve that authoritarianism. We are headed into a neo feudal global society.
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There's now video of an identified progressive activist encouraging people to storm the Capitol. Snippet for those who can't read the article:
John Sullivan, videographer and founder of “a group for racial justice and police reform,” posted a video on YouTube on Jan. 7 that shows him entering the Capitol building in Washington with a group of Trump supporters and possibly others on the previous day. He’s heard on video encouraging others and convincing Capitol police to let the trespassers through at several impasses. The video also reveals further details about the situation that led to the death of Ashley Babbitt, an Air Force veteran shot inside the building by Capitol Police.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/self-proclaimed-revolutionary-eggs-on-capitol-intruders-as-he-records-them-publishes-video_3649617.html?utm_source=share-btn-copylink&st=CnwI1R6-XA1xQTT33qDdhrbbBO6mXk3E9otzUdrtj9iJjvwzgIGGuexprcYvh_J2N6oFBpupuwDu6j1w8uL0o5AuB4rKiuvEdvk
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Looks like there is a big push for action against Domestic Terrorism.
Shutting down or punishing Epoch Times, Newsmax, OAN and even Fox was mentioned in one article.
Is the word "*let's not go there*" still off limits? There are so many *let's not go there* on the so called right, spits, it would take a new thread to list them all. The submissive nature of the American "right" is disgusting. It's almost as if they enjoy the humiliation. They are fakes, not of the right at all.
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Companies firing people for participating in the "riot"
Rioters who stormed US Capitol now face backlash at work
https://www.wlky.com/article/rioters-who-stormed-us-capitol-now-face-backlash-at-work/35167272
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Looks like there is a big push for action against Domestic Terrorism.
Shutting down or punishing Epoch Times, Newsmax, OAN and even Fox was mentioned in one article.
Is the word "*let's not go there*" still off limits? There are so many *let's not go there* on the so called right, spits, it would take a new thread to list them all. The submissive nature of the American "right" is disgusting. It's almost as if they enjoy the humiliation. They are fakes, not of the right at all.
Anything they do that they claim is retaliation for the “insurrection” they were gonna do anyway. That’s the cold hard truth.
The legislation has been drawn up and sitting in a file waiting on complete control to implement.
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Never let a crisis go to waste.
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How many minutes until it is likewise blocked and banned?
What do dissidents do when they can't have DNS?
(Serious question, I suspect we'll run into that with general deplatforming.)
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Looks like there is a big push for action against Domestic Terrorism.
Which is of course, "raht wing terrorists", of the sort that couldn't fill an Arby's and are half fed infiltrators anyway.
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What do dissidents do when they can't have DNS?
(Serious question, I suspect we'll run into that with general deplatforming.)
This. Where do we go when the internet is off limits? Private oldschool BBS?
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This. Where do we go when the internet is off limits? Private oldschool BBS?
Break out the phone modems. If you live where landlines still exist.
I'm almost serious, because if what we're seeing are allowable and popular actions, then when do the ISPs get involved? And what happens when ISPs are blocked from their connections?
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landline speeds just suck. Oh, you'll still have IP addresses, just not tied to a DNS name. We're all going to end up on the dorkweb (sic) with the pedos and the druggies and the hackers and (you just watch) the Christians.
I'm also thinking, a lot of hand to hand on a USB stick.
Veracrypt (https://sourceforge.net/projects/veracrypt/), snag a copy.
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Would it be inappropriate to ask the Federal informers on this board for their opinion on secure comms?
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Knew I should have kept that old phone and modem
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Knew I should have kept that old phone and modem
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I'm the pack rat at work, but I threw away my Radio Shack 300 baud 30 years ago. <wail>
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They won't need to go jackboot on us, rounding us up.
They will just keep denying us access to things one by one.
Gun owners refusing to comply with voluntary buy backs will be denied bank accounts, credit and access to health care. They will freeze your retirement accounts. Non-compliant gun owners will be unemployable.
We will either submit to survive or be denied everything needed to live modern life.
They have plenty of time. No hurry.
Who you going to go out and shoot or go to war with?
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Knew I should have kept that old phone and modem
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I've got an old portable modem around here someplace. I used it back in my storm chasing days before wireless access became ubiquitous.
I even have a few ISA and PCI modem cards in a bin downstairs. I should check on drivers for them.
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They won't need to go jackboot on us, rounding us up.
They will just keep denying us access to things one by one.
Gun owners refusing to comply with voluntary buy backs will be denied bank accounts, credit and access to health care. They will freeze your retirement accounts. Non-compliant gun owners will be unemployable.
We will either submit to survive or be denied everything needed to live modern life.
They have plenty of time. No hurry.
Who you going to go out and shoot or go to war with?
I think you're right in that the government wouldn't need to go jackboot on us. However, going jackboot seems to be the default government response most times.
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Who you going to go out and shoot or go to war with?
It won't be a red vs blue war. It will be a guerilla war. Hit and run. Bombs. Sniping. Harassing. Burning down entire buildings to get one politician. Target every politician in every way possible. Some will get the message, eventually.
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What do dissidents do when they can't have DNS?
(Serious question, I suspect we'll run into that with general deplatforming.)
Namecoin.
It's a blockchain based DNS that government cannot bully.
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It won't be a red vs blue war. It will be a guerilla war. Hit and run. Bombs. Sniping. Harassing. Burning down entire buildings to get one politician. Target every politician in every way possible. Some will get the message, eventually.
Live life, be happy, go out on the town, go to your kid's PTA meetings. Every now and then something related to the feudal lords catches on fire. Strange, that.
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Anyways, this is no longer inciting violence:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/09/kathy-griffins-photo-to-encourage-trump-to-resign-apparently-doesnt-violate-any-inciting-violence-rules/
I'd like to see someone come out with some life-size Biden and Harris heads - on pikes. Then I'd like to see people display them in their yards, in their pickup beds, etc. That would be cool right? The same people that thought Trump's bloody head was funny will think the same of the heads on a pike, right? It would be equality and unity.
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I have a couple of USB Modems in my Computer Emergency Backpack. Used one a few times when we first moved back and were staying in a friend's storage area (It had a bedroom/office we slept in).
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Anyways, this is no longer inciting violence:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/09/kathy-griffins-photo-to-encourage-trump-to-resign-apparently-doesnt-violate-any-inciting-violence-rules/
I'd like to see someone come out with some life-size Biden and Harris heads - on pikes. Then I'd like to see people display them in their yards, in their pickup beds, etc. That would be cool right? The same people that thought Trump's bloody head was funny will think the same of the heads on a pike, right? It would be equality and unity.
The tweet's been taken down, for what it's worth.
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The tweet's been taken down, for what it's worth.
They say it's removed, the the picture is still there.
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It's always about race
And yet, as days pass after pro-Trump insurrectionists stormed into the U.S. Capitol, the NHL world has been largely silent and passive, retreating once again behind its apolitical shield.
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At its core, the storming of the Capitol represented a violent white supremacist insurrection, the actions of people worked into a frenzy against a multiracial democracy. When people, including NHL players, took to the streets to protest against police shootings and systemic racism, this is exactly the sick and debased ideology they were standing up against.
On Wednesday though, when the opportunity presented itself to specifically condemn these actions—that were so clearly against what players say they stand for—why were so many in the hockey community so utterly silent?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/09/usa-today-notes-the-telling-silence-of-nhl-players-since-the-storming-of-the-capitol-building-by-white-supremacists/
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It's always about race
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/09/usa-today-notes-the-telling-silence-of-nhl-players-since-the-storming-of-the-capitol-building-by-white-supremacists/
And there's some of what we're talking about in the other thread - removing language and definitions and replacing them to fit new narratives. Any time white people protest about anything, it means they're white supremacists and thus they should be dismissed or outright loathed.
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It's always about race
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/09/usa-today-notes-the-telling-silence-of-nhl-players-since-the-storming-of-the-capitol-building-by-white-supremacists/
From the comments:
"Has the US Curling Team made an official statement?"
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To heck with the US Curling Team. I want to know about the US Lawn Bowling Team! Have they denounced the white supremacists that stormed the capitol?
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:facepalm:
https://twitter.com/bigangrylaw/status/1348007294148227072
Please tell me that no one is this stupid.
Never mind, I already know the answer.
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:facepalm:
https://twitter.com/bigangrylaw/status/1348007294148227072
Please tell me that no one is this stupid.
Never mind, I already know the answer.
All I get is
This is not available to you
Edit: Never mind, came up on the 3rd try
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Anyway, on the while inciting thing...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1347703375270350851
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Funny how when there's a request for the same data on the left the data is lost for some reason.
Incoming-Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Mark Warner (D-VA) on Friday sent a letter to the CEOs of social media platforms and telecommunications companies about last week's riot at the United States Capitol. Warner instructed the companies to "preserve digital evidence" of the riot.
Warner wants the platforms to "immediately preserve any and all posts, communications, videos and other media, meta-data, cloud backups, and subscriber information, whether currently on your platform or in any backup or archived state." He made the instruction in anticipation of formal legal proceedings.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2021/01/09/incoming-senate-intel-committee-chair-issues-tech-directive-over-capitol-hill-rio-n2582872
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What do dissidents do when they can't have DNS?
(Serious question, I suspect we'll run into that with general deplatforming.)
Honestly, we'll probably all end up on a forum accessible on TOR, hosted on servers in a neutral country. I mucked with it in the past and found it fairy easy to do.
Also, we really should start creating pgp keypairs and distributing our public keys to people we communicate with.
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Who you going to go out and shoot or go to war with?
DW & I were discussing that earlier this evening. We decided it wouldn't make much sense to try to go after leftists/antifa/blm etc. - it'd be too hard to ID them. Government workers, easy enough to ID, but well protected.
There is the question of who would take over the governance of the country? And who would lead any efforts to replace the current .gov? A full-blown coup would require a military style setup for the insurrectionists, with a leader (or committee), generals, captains, lieutenants, sergeants etc.
Guerrilla warfare would be do-able. One would have to hope that the remaining leaders would get the (correct) message and start behaving as desired.
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If it comes down to regular murders and assassination as tools of political debate (to say nothing of reprisal killings and "collateral damage"), there would not be enough of a country left functioning to worry about governing. That's not a pathway I want to even consider at the moment.
I just finished an interview by Bret Weinstein of Jeremy Lee Quin, an independent reporter who was at the capitol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFJdjO0fD4E
Bret is a self described far-leftist, and Jeremy Lee Quin also identifies at left, but both have been deplatformed and are regularly attacked by "their side" for the unforgivable crime of being willing to talk with their political opponents in good faith. I certainly didn't agree with everything said in the interview, but felt that they addressed it in as well as could be expected and provided some good context and importantly an outsider viewpoint that is at least trying for objectivity.
One major takeaway was the diversity of the crowd, including the people who broke in. He mentioned interviewing someone who was favorable to white nationalism (notably the very first he has found so far while covering these kinds of events) but also running into "grandmas for Trump" inside the capitol building.
He also discusses the commonality of the tactics between the rioters at the capitol and the antifa affiliated groups.
Good interview, and worth the time to listen.
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:facepalm:
https://twitter.com/bigangrylaw/status/1348007294148227072
Please tell me that no one is this stupid.
Never mind, I already know the answer.
Surely you know a lefty that deserves to go on that list..
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JeffMAC
9 hours ago
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YT is getting ready to cut out the footage from inside of the capital for "music copyright". The audio in the video is a siren, noises from the crowd, and my legally owned beat playing. It's unbelievable 🤦♂️ if you would like to see for yourself before it's cut out, it's said to be the time frame of [1:53:13 - 1:54:26] in my video titled "LIVE: Save America March Part 2 | Freedom Rally | Washington DC | Protest for Freedom | USA |"
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgyLkuMP601JhI-PjTd4AaABCQ
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Isn't it odd that there's no branch or organization in our government standing up for the historic American ideals and principles supposedly protected by the constitution? Like freedom of speech, freedom of association, protection of the institution of free and fair elections etc? It's hard to believe it's all compromised through and through.
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The Latest: Pelosi Ties Rioters' Actions to 'Whiteness'
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is accusing the Trump supporters who rioted in the Capitol this week of choosing what she calls “their whiteness" over democracy.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-09/the-latest-senator-wants-crime-scene-evidence-preserved
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on the fallout of the storming of the Capitol by a mob of pro-Trump loyalists (all times local):
4:20 p.m.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is accusing the Trump supporters who rioted in the Capitol this week of choosing “their whiteness over democracy.”
The California Democrat used an online video meeting with her hometown San Francisco constituents to criticize the overwhelmingly white mob that attacked Congress on Wednesday as it met to formally finalize Joe Biden’s presidential victory.
“It has been an epiphany for the world to see that there are people in our country led by this president, for the moment, who have chosen their whiteness over democracy,” Pelosi said.
4:20 p.m. :lol: Clown world, honk honk
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[popcorn]
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Someone posted this in another forum [tinfoil]
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[tinfoil] [tinfoil] [tinfoil] [tinfoil]
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Tin foil hat stuff for sure. How do people come up with that weird crap?
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Tribunals? If the right actually held tribunals, they wouldn't be the right (or at least what they're supposed to stand for). That guy is ten donuts short of a dozen.
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Tin foil hat stuff for sure. How do people come up with that weird crap?
Copeium is a hell of a drug.
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Between Powel, Wood and the two Generals, Flynn and McInerney, the stories being told are incredible.
Top it all off with the Q Anon stuff and ...
In other areas of conspiracy world I've read stories of a break between the old guard and new guard of the behind the scenes rulers. This is what is going on behind the scenes and why things seem so crazy.
I'm pretty comfortable rejecting nearly everything our media tells us as lies, distortions, partial truths, sophisticated propaganda and psychological manipulation, particularly regarding politics.
What to actually believe regarding what is really going on in the political realm is much more difficult to suss out.
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One of SWMBO's more tinfoil-hat acquaintances just Messenger'd a video of sumdood claiming that Special Forces were embedded in the Capitol rioters, that they took laptops from key reps' offices, that the laptops contained smoking-gun-level info, and that Trump was acting on it in secret as we speak. He then spent ten minutes begging everyone to have at least two weeks of non-perishables on hand right now because crap's about to get real. The acqaintance was at levitation-level frothing that we need to go to the store RIGHT NOW!!
Thankfully the cute kittens video I was watching kept my head from exploding, though the mention of emergency rations did remind me we're only two months from severe weather season and I need to start checking supplies.
Brad
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They won't need to go jackboot on us, rounding us up.
They will just keep denying us access to things one by one.
Gun owners refusing to comply with voluntary buy backs will be denied bank accounts, credit and access to health care. They will freeze your retirement accounts. Non-compliant gun owners will be unemployable.
We will either submit to survive or be denied everything needed to live modern life.
They have plenty of time. No hurry.
Who you going to go out and shoot or go to war with?
I guess that is possible, but then you would have a bunch of gun owners (a portion of whom won't give up) who have nothing to lose and would be living outside the world of electronic tracking. Kind of sets up a dangerous situation.
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One of SWMBO's more tinfoil-hat acquaintances just Messenger'd a video of sumdood claiming that Special Forces were embedded in the Capitol rioters, that they took laptops from key reps' offices, that the laptops contained smoking-gun-level info, and that Trump was acting on it in secret as we speak. He then spent ten minutes begging everyone to have at least two weeks of non-perishables on hand right now because crap's about to get real. The acqaintance was at levitation-level frothing that we need to go to the store RIGHT NOW!!
Thankfully the cute kittens video I was watching kept my head from exploding, though the mention of emergency rations did remind me we're only two months from severe weather season and I need to start checking supplies.
Brad
My conspiracy theory aunt also shared the same bullshit. She’s been claiming “they are gonna do X to stop the Dems!” for months now. Jesus Christ...
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About to get even more sporty
Speaker Pelosi in letter to House Democrats tonight announced the House’s plans for tomorrow’s 11am pro forma session: “Majority Leader Hoyer will request Unanimous Consent to bring up the Raskin (25th Amendment) resolution.” https://t.co/k5ycIhkIEE
— Craig Caplan (@CraigCaplan) January 10, 2021
Nancy Pelosi to issue VP Pence an ultimatum before moving forward with the impeachment of President Trump
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/10/nancy-pelosi-to-issue-vp-pence-an-ultimatum-before-moving-forward-with-the-impeachment-of-president-trump/
Yes, it’s the 14th Amendment, and it’s why I’m introducing a resolution to investigate and expel the members who attempted to overturn the presidential election and incited a white supremacist coup attempt.
If you agree, call your representative and ask them to cosponsor it. https://t.co/bFSmV6M6i9
— Cori Bush (@CoriBush) January 10, 2021
Rep. Cori Bush looks to expel GOP members of Congress using the 14th Amendment
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/10/rep-cori-bush-looks-to-expel-gop-members-of-congress-using-the-14th-amendment/
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About to get even more sporty
Nancy Pelosi to issue VP Pence an ultimatum before moving forward with the impeachment of President Trump
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/10/nancy-pelosi-to-issue-vp-pence-an-ultimatum-before-moving-forward-with-the-impeachment-of-president-trump/
Rep. Cori Bush looks to expel GOP members of Congress using the 14th Amendment
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/10/rep-cori-bush-looks-to-expel-gop-members-of-congress-using-the-14th-amendment/
These aholes see "white supremes" everywhere.
Game on I guess.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/10/major-companies-begin-suspending-donations-to-republicans-involved-in-biden-certification-challenge/?sh=621efe05cf69
Hotel giant Marriott International, the health insurance network Blue Cross Blue Shield, bank holding company Commerce Bancshares and Citibank, all told Popular Information, a political newsletter run by ThinkProgress founder and editor Judd Legum, that they will stop donating to any member of Congress who objected to the certification of the Electoral College vote.
Popular Information surveyed 144 corporations that had, through their corporate PACs, donated to one or more of the eight senators who opposed the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s win.
In addition to the vows to indefinitely suspend donations, Bank of America, Ford Motor Co. and AT&T all said they will take recent events into consideration before making future donations, while CVS Health Corp., Exxon Mobil, FexEx and Target said they are reviewing their political giving.
Marriott’s PAC donated $1,000 to the campaign of Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) during the 2020 cycle and another $1,000 to Hawley’s leadership PAC, but the company told Forbes it will “pause” donations to those who voted against certification, including House members.
Blue Cross Blue Shield’s PAC, known as BLUEPAC, donated nearly $12,000 in total to Tommy Tuberville (R-AL), Roger Marshall (R-KS) and Hawley in the 2020 cycle, but told Popular Information it is suspending support to all 147 Republicans who voted "to subvert the results of November’s election by challenging Electoral College results."
Commerce Bancshares donated $2,500 to Marshall during the 2020 cycle, but told Popular Information it has "suspended all support for officials who have impeded the peaceful transfer of power."
Citibank’s PAC donated $1,000 to Hawley during the 2020 cycle, but said in an internal memo obtained by several news outlets on Sunday that it will “not support candidates who do not respect the rule of law” and will “pause contributions" from its PAC for the rest of the quarter.
A spokesperson for JP Morgan Chase & Co told Forbes it plans to suspend donations to both parties from its political action committee – which gave $1,000 to Marshall – for six months, with executive Peter Scher arguing in a statement “the focus of business leaders... should be on governing,” and adding, “There will be plenty of time for campaigning later.”
JP Morgan Chase may have the right idea. As for the rest, seems to be virtue signaling. The amounts previously donated are all pretty small.
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Seems like a full-on double sided coup. All bets are off. Crikey :O
[popcorn]
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Even Parler's attorney has dropped them:
https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1348372956246732800
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Even Parler's attorney has dropped them:
https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1348372956246732800
Again for the cheap seats, why are they intent on Parler's destruction?
(other than the obvious shameful attempt at suppression of anything right of Lenin)
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Again for the cheap seats, why are they intent on Parler's destruction?
(other than the obvious shameful attempt at suppression of anything right of Lenin)
The Right Freedom must be destroyed! Everything, everyone! [ar15] [ar15] [ar15]
No matter what form it takes.
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Even Parler's attorney has dropped them:
https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1348372956246732800
Gotta wonder what skeletons he had in his closet that the tech mafia threatened to expose.
Or, are they up to threatening his family?
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(https://i.imgur.com/L5EN3v2.jpg)
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Again for the cheap seats, why are they intent on Parler's destruction?
(other than the obvious shameful attempt at suppression of anything right of Lenin)
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NzvFNLAnYNw/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Arnold totally c-ucked.
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Stuff like this doesn't help:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-close-to-half-house-nearly-dying-riots
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The gaslighting is epic.
We are watching a color revolution taking place before our eyes.
Everything in the media was pretty fake before all of this so I'm certainly not believing anything being reported now that the leftists have assumed and asserted control of everything.
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Stuff like this doesn't help:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-close-to-half-house-nearly-dying-riots
Cue the cries of PTSD
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Even Parler's attorney has dropped them:
https://twitter.com/MatthewKeysLive/status/1348372956246732800
Probably a leftist to start with. He took the gig because it paid well, stuck with it until pressure from family, friends and peers overcame his natural greed.
Or, he's virtue signaling. Or both.
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Probably a leftist to start with. He took the gig because it paid well, stuck with it until pressure from family, friends and peers overcame his natural greed.
Or, he's virtue signaling. Or both.
Or death threats from the 93% peaceful left
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/10/major-companies-begin-suspending-donations-to-republicans-involved-in-biden-certification-challenge/?sh=621efe05cf69
JP Morgan Chase may have the right idea. As for the rest, seems to be virtue signaling. The amounts previously donated are all pretty small.
You almost think they assume R's will never regain power in D.C. for some reason.
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You almost think they assume R's will never regain power in D.C. for some reason.
They assume that even if the R's do regain power there won't be any organized retribution. They are almost certainly correct.
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D's and R's are riding the same fascist wave. Now is the time to pick sides, lick boots and prove your loyalty to the new overlords.
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(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/2d0de1761d0e0cac666ae8ccb72d86b8.jpg)
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From just perusing news articles, there are dozens of them regarding the arrest of such and such individuals identified in the crowd in the capitol. It's already looking like they have arrested more people for this than for all the antifa riots all year.
Kind of also shows how big brother isn't the gov, but social media, since it's there that info to track all these people down given by all kinds of individuals on social media is how the arrests are happening. Who needs cameras on every street corner and drones when you have a liberal neighbor with a friendface account?
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Basically we went from December 2020 to January 1984.
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From just perusing news articles, there are dozens of them regarding the arrest of such and such individuals identified in the crowd in the capitol. It's already looking like they have arrested more people for this than for all the antifa riots all year.
Doesn't help that the Trump rioters by and large didn't wear masks and didn't all go dressed alike.
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Doesn't help that the Trump rioters by and large didn't wear masks and didn't all go dressed alike.
I wonder if some of the identification is being done via facial recognition over security cameras? If so, there must be a database somewhere containing a ton of average, ordinary folks facial ID without their knowledge.
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I wonder if some of the identification is being done via facial recognition over security cameras? If so, there must be a database somewhere containing a ton of average, ordinary folks facial ID without their knowledge.
All the photos loaded up into facebook etc have to be good for something right?
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All the photos loaded up into facebook etc have to be good for something right?
This is true.
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I wonder if some of the identification is being done via facial recognition over security cameras? If so, there must be a database somewhere containing a ton of average, ordinary folks facial ID without their knowledge.
what the hell do you think all those apps to "turn your selfie into a painting/retouch your selfie/pixar-ify yourself" are?
What do you think the crap on facebook is?
Americans have been forking over ALL their identifying info, data, and biometrics to these tech companies for years.
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what the hell do you think all those apps to "turn your selfie into a painting/retouch your selfie/pixar-ify yourself" are?
What do you think the crap on facebook is?
Americans have been forking over ALL their identifying info, data, and biometrics to these tech companies for years.
I don't mess with any of that crap, so my awareness of it is somewhat limited.
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They probably don't even have to use facial recognition. It should be easy to nab everyone just based on their phone location data or the metadata of the photos they themselves took or otherwise provided. It's possible they were smart enough to turn off their phones but if they weren't smart enough to wear a disguise, or if they deliberately wanted to ve identifiable then I doubt it.
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They probably don't even have to use facial recognition. It should be easy to nab everyone just based on their phone location data or the metadata of the photos they themselves took or otherwise provided. It's possible they were smart enough to turn off their phones but if they weren't smart enough to wear a disguise, or if they deliberately wanted to ve identifiable then I doubt it.
Refer to many of the morons that were smiling for the camera as their pics were taken and uploaded to the social medias.
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To be fair to the morons, they had no reason to think they would be prosecuted.
Was anyone prosecuted from the Kavanagh hearing storming? I know there were some arrests, but I thought it was catch and release.
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To be fair to the morons, they had no reason to think they would be prosecuted.
Was anyone prosecuted from the Kavanagh hearing storming? I know there were some arrests, but I thought it was catch and release.
This is accurate. We just went through literal MONTHS of politicians making excuses for ACTUAL rioting and burning of businesses, police stations, federal buildings.
Nobody thought they'd be prosecuted for sitting in a chair cheesing for a picture.
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It's being called an act of sedition, treason and insurrection.
I sat through a bit of a Phone Townhall with my congressman. He was so enraged he splattered me with spittle through the phone :P
The Democrats not only are looking at trying to get Trump supporting congressman thrown out of congress but looking at legal actions!
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It's being called an act of sedition, treason and insurrection.
I sat through a bit of a Phone Townhall with my congressman. He was so enraged he splattered me with spittle through the phone :P
The Democrats not only are looking at trying to get Trump supporting congressman thrown out of congress but looking at legal actions!
I suspect they are searching for a legal excuse to summarily execute them.
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AR15.com got booted off GoDaddy. Backup site at https://www.ar15-backup.com
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https://babylonbee.com/news/to-avoid-tech-censorship-the-babylon-bee-releases-innovative-new-print-edition
To Avoid Tech Censorship, The Babylon Bee Announces Innovative New Print Edition
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-7743-1.jpg)
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AR15.com got booted off GoDaddy. Backup site at https://www.ar15-backup.com
I'm not the most web-savvy person, but ar15.com seems to be working fine for me (as of this writing).
(ETA: never mind. Typing "ar15.com" takes one to ar15-backup.com. :facepalm:)
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To be fair to the morons, they had no reason to think they would be prosecuted.
Was anyone prosecuted from the Kavanagh hearing storming? I know there were some arrests, but I thought it was catch and release.
Point taken. Some of the charges I'm seeing for High School antics are frightening.
That's not to take away from people facing charges for things like beating that one cop half to death. However treason and sedition charges for posing for pictures kinda take away from the more serious crime.
In the meantime most of the antifas that were charged came under misdemeanor mischief type charges, and most of those were dropped IIRC. Not to mention the vice president elect posting bail for them.
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Mother of horned invader who stormed Capitol says he hasn’t eaten because jail doesn’t serve all-organic food
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/11/mother-of-horned-invader-who-stormed-capitol-says-he-hasnt-eaten-because-jail-doesnt-serve-all-organic-food/
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The horned guy, big leader of the insurrection ;/
https://heavy.com/news/jacob-chansley-jake-angeli/
I spoke with Jake Angeli, the QAnon guy who got inside the Senate chamber. He said police eventually gave up trying to stop him and other Trump supporters, and let them in. After a while, he said police politely asked him to leave and let him go without arrest — Adrian Morrow (@AdrianMorrow) January 6, 2021
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I wonder if some of the identification is being done via facial recognition over security cameras? If so, there must be a database somewhere containing a ton of average, ordinary folks facial ID without their knowledge.
Where do you think your drivers license photo ends up? Notice how they have you stand a certain way, hold you head at a certain angle?
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Ho ho ho! To The Book of Faces it goes, because I know someone who will be triggereddddd!
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The D.C. National Guard plans to have at minimum 10,000 troops in D.C. by Saturday in order to boost security before the inauguration.
Trump approves DC emergency declaration ahead of Biden inauguration
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/533746-trump-makes-emergency-declaration-ahead-of-biden-inauguration
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Trump approves DC emergency declaration ahead of Biden inauguration
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/533746-trump-makes-emergency-declaration-ahead-of-biden-inauguration
And yet he hasn't said anything on gab since Friday.
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And yet he hasn't said anything on gab since Friday.
He's too busy playing 4D chess.
Or crying into his beer.
Take your pick.
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He's too busy playing 4D chess.
Or crying into his beer.
Take your pick.
No! PELOSI IS KISSING AND TRUMP IS CONFERRING WITH HIS ELITE GENERALS?!!!
TRUST THE PLAN!
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The Q folks are still trusting the plan.
Trump and Pompeo aren't acting like they are going anywhere.
The Democrats are acting pretty odd themselves, their hyperbole and stated plans are overtly totalitarian, normies aren't noticing.
The social media/internet giants are so over the top you would think normies would notice that, where they do they agree with it!
The rinos are running to the left so hard they are tripping over each other.
Crazy times indeed.
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The Q folks are still trusting the plan.
Trump and Pompeo aren't acting like they are going anywhere.
The Democrats are acting pretty odd themselves, their hyperbole and stated plans are overtly totalitarian, normies aren't noticing.
The social media/internet giants are so over the top you would think normies would notice that, where they do they agree with it!
The rinos are running to the left so hard they are tripping over each other.
Crazy times indeed.
I think more people are noticing than is apparent. Hard to tell for certain. What would you expect to see?
Things are a bit weird. The rhetoric from the leftist congressional leadership is even more extreme than it was given all the calls to remove President Trump from office prior to inauguration.
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And yet he hasn't said anything on gab since Friday.
To be fair, Gab is a hot mess lately.
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Sorry Nancy
Vice President Pence tells Speaker Nancy Pelosi he won’t invoke the 25th Amendment or play ‘political games’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/12/vice-president-pence-tells-speaker-nancy-pelosi-he-wont-invoke-the-25th-amendment-or-play-political-games/
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Sorry Nancy
Vice President Pence tells Speaker Nancy Pelosi he won’t invoke the 25th Amendment or play ‘political games’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/12/vice-president-pence-tells-speaker-nancy-pelosi-he-wont-invoke-the-25th-amendment-or-play-political-games/
Except he has already. (Played political games.)
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I guess his hypocrisy does have limits.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8yyY2oFwVI&lc=Ugz54H7Rqb1VwGhDFB14AaABAg.9IR-S0e8DaB9IRNdKpfLhu
Is it normal for politicians to be concerned about retaining (or not retaining) control over the military? =|
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I guess his hypocrisy does have limits.
Is he their huckleberry? :P
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Is he their huckleberry? :P
I see I'm not the only one who thought of that.
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Good grief! He'll be gone in a week!
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Good grief! He'll be gone in a week!
They don't want him back in 2024.
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They don't want him back in 2024.
He'd be almost 80 years old, is that a serious concern? He looks good for his age now and he's still sharp (mostly) but really? I don't see him running again even if he can. I see him backing somebody like Sarah Palin (*not* Sarah Palin, I mean someone like her when she was still governor of Alaska and not on many ppl's radar)
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They don't want him back in 2024.
Expect the democratic rope trick to be preform soon to take care of that [tinfoil]
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They don't want him back in 2024.
Hence the heavy-handed attempts to make him a non-person.
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Hence the heavy-handed attempts to make him a non-person.
As well as the heavy handed rhetoric being used to demonize Trump's supporters, people that just voted for him and conservatives in general.
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He'd be almost 80 years old, is that a serious concern? He looks good for his age now and he's still sharp (mostly) but really? I don't see him running again even if he can.
I guess it depends on what happens after he leaves office. Four years is a long time, his companies are likely going to be the focus of concerted investigations and partisan boycotts. I certainly doubt he is going to be the kind of guy to lay low like some past presidents.
I could see him maintaining some of the political spotlight and could definitely see him running even if it is a bad idea.
Then again, I thought it was a terrible idea for him to run initially, and a terrible idea for him to be elected, but ultimately I'm glad he did and was.
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As well as the heavy handed rhetoric being used to demonize Trump's supporters, people that just voted for him and conservatives in general.
The old guy I hunt with visited me yesterday. This is a Marine Vietnam combat vet, who since I met him has been ridiculously pro-Trump to the point of flying a Trump flag on his flagpole and supporting Trump in what even I thought was almost a radical way. Trump lost because of election fraud.
Yesterday he had a 180 degree opinion. He now hates Trump, says that all the protestors in DC (not just the violent rioters) committed treason and insurrection and should be in jail, and even though he knows I have some, EBRs should be banned immediately. The election was free and fair and Trump lost and how dare he and his supporters attack the United States?
I couldn't believe it. The only reason I can think of is that he only gets his news from the MSM, included the liberal local papers. He had no idea about what Facebook and Twitter did (in fact he doesn't really even know what they are). When I tried to explain that he was getting censored news, he just replied that I was full of bullshit and interwebz places aren't anything but a fad. He just believes that Trump actually tried to lead a violent revolution against the government and that he is now a criminal.
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He just believes that Trump actually tried to lead a violent revolution against the government and that he is now a criminal.
Trump said some dumb things. No doubt about that, but we've had years of Trump saying dumb things.
How that leads to EBRs being banned I cannot fathom.
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I was informed by a "non political" friend of mine (active in shooting sports as well as hunting) that Biden isn't going to do anything against gun rights and that he hopes that Biden brings back the Clinton economy.
Bidens words and website haven't done anything to dissuade his opinion.
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Trump said some dumb things. No doubt about that, but we've had years of Trump saying dumb things.
How that leads to EBRs being banned I cannot fathom.
I think it had to do with the FBI going apeshit about "armed protests at all state capitols."
There's going to be one in Boise and of course the Idaho Statesman (which he subscribes to) managed to make it sound like it will be an armed attack, versus the peaceful event it has been the last 1000 times they did it.
Honestly, if I only listened to CNN, NPR, etc., and only read local papers owned and managed by news corporations in Chicago and NYC, I might also think we have had something akin to Pearl Harbor (as some of them have reported).
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It was like Pearl Harbor, Ben. Thousands of people across the country were scared for a little while.
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Thornton Melon: The football team at my high school, they were tough. After they sacked the quarterback, they went after his family.
Rep. Hakeem Jeffries claims ‘Donald Trump Jr. is now under criminal investigation’ in D.C.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/13/rep-hakeem-jeffries-claims-donald-trump-jr-is-now-under-criminal-investigation-in-d-c/
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Watch the video...https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/13/watch-new-video-surfaces-from-inside-the-capitol-that-suggests-the-takeover-was-coordinated-and-planned/ (https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/01/13/watch-new-video-surfaces-from-inside-the-capitol-that-suggests-the-takeover-was-coordinated-and-planned/)
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He'd be almost 80 years old, is that a serious concern? He looks good for his age now and he's still sharp (mostly) but really? I don't see him running again even if he can. I see him backing somebody like Sarah Palin (*not* Sarah Palin, I mean someone like her when she was still governor of Alaska and not on many ppl's radar)
My friends grandfather was still running marathons at 95.
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The Q folks are still trusting the plan.
Trump and Pompeo aren't acting like they are going anywhere.
The Democrats are acting pretty odd themselves, their hyperbole and stated plans are overtly totalitarian, normies aren't noticing.
The social media/internet giants are so over the top you would think normies would notice that, where they do they agree with it!
Are "the normies" even aware of this? I have no idea what they see, if they get their news from CNN. (Alex Jones, CNN. pick one.)
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Are the normies even aware of this? I have no idea what they see, if they get their news from CNN. (Alex Jones, CNN. pick one.)
Right wing boomer idiots boycotted “mainstream media” and ran to dipshit groups on Facebook that spread w nonsense and are ran by LARPing idiots
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Scary shades of the Reichstag fire
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Scary shades of the Reichstag fire
This.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4JQ7-WWTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f4JQ7-WWTw) What is up with the initial video of the police line in the background and the police letting the rioters in.
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What's up with all the capitol raiders looking like they just came from a "larping" event in the park?
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:facepalm:
THERE it is! Andrew McCabe explains why Trump’s video calling for peace was actually a call for violence
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/14/there-it-is-andrew-mccabe-explains-why-trumps-video-calling-for-peace-was-actually-a-call-for-violence/
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:facepalm:
THERE it is! Andrew McCabe explains why Trump’s video calling for peace was actually a call for violence
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/14/there-it-is-andrew-mccabe-explains-why-trumps-video-calling-for-peace-was-actually-a-call-for-violence/
I saw some comments on Disqus that the raid on the capitol started 20 minutes before Trump finished speaking, then it would take an hour to get from the Eclipse (what is that?) to the Capitol. So the rioters could not have heard the speech that supposedly incited them to violence. Let's see if I can find it again...
Christie is full of beans -- or what beans become after a few hours in the digestive system. One America News pointed out a glaring problem in the impeachment charges yesterday. How can someone be guilty of inciting a riot when the rioters have not heard heard his speech? The trouble began to erupt at the Capitol twenty minutes before Trump finished speaking, and nearly an hour before anyone at the Ellipse could have gotten to the Capitol. I have several eyewitness reports from friends or relatives at or near the Ellipse who reported that the noise of the flash bangs, which they feared might be gunshots, was audible as they were a block or two from the Capitol. That was a signal to them to steer clear, which they did. It is highly improbable that the group that blew up at the Capitol could have heard Trump's speech via cellphone, since streaming was just about impossible because of the traffic overload from all the users in the city. So the Democrats, in their vendetta and their hate-driven lust to destroy Trump, have impeached him for an alleged misdeed which is almost impossible to have done. Another of many good reasons why the Democrat logo is a donkey, although the other word is more fitting.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/13/did-trump-commit-a-crime-by-exhorting-the-crowds-o/
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I saw some comments on Disqus that the raid on the capitol started 20 minutes before Trump finished speaking, then it would take an hour to get from the Eclipse (what is that?) to the Capitol. So the rioters could not have heard the speech that supposedly incited them to violence. Let's see if I can find it again...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jan/13/did-trump-commit-a-crime-by-exhorting-the-crowds-o/
https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9 (https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9)
And according to the Google Maps it would take 34 minutes to walk from The Ellipse to Capital Hill.
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Yes it stared during his speech and the FBI and NYPD both warned them in advance but the capital police said no to extra security.
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https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9 (https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9)
And according to the Google Maps it would take 34 minutes to walk from The Ellipse to Capital Hill.
It didn't look like an hour on the map. But 34 minutes is still significant.
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https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9 (https://goo.gl/maps/hkKwAXWgAbBTo6NT9)
And according to the Google Maps it would take 34 minutes to walk from The Ellipse to Capital Hill.
It also means that anyone who heard the speech was about an hour away when the "assault" on the capitol happened.
20+34 = 54 = about an hour.
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The Washington Times is considered a propaganda rag by the left, and the sheep that watch stuff like the View are easily convinced of the same. This will not get any traction in the MSM and Twitter et al will simply censor it.
In fact, to counteract their story, I suspect you'll soon be hearing about how the rioters staged operatives with secure comms at Trump's speech while the shock troops were already positioned at the Capitol. Trump will have said a super duper secret coded phrase embedded in his speech that was communicated to the KKK warriors at the Capitol who then executed the insurrection.
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Here you go. Even the "conservative mouthpiece" Fox News is reporting that there will be increased "domestic terrorism" in 2021, alluding it will pretty much be from "the militias".
https://www.foxnews.com/us/law-enforcement-bulletin-feds-violent-extremism-terror-threat
Biden/Harris will turn this up to 11, antifa will continue to burn down cities and at worst be charged with misdemeanors, and guys with 3% T-shirts will be arrested by anti-terrorism task forces and charged with felonies for being out in public and inciting violence with their shirts.
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It didn't look like an hour on the map. But 34 minutes is still significant.
Might take longer with the area so crowded too.
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I've lost my "Dog Whistle" decoder sheet, can someone shoot me a copy please?
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Here you go. Even the "conservative mouthpiece" Fox News is reporting that there will be increased "domestic terrorism" in 2021, alluding it will pretty much be from "the militias".
https://www.foxnews.com/us/law-enforcement-bulletin-feds-violent-extremism-terror-threat
Biden/Harris will turn this up to 11, antifa will continue to burn down cities and at worst be charged with misdemeanors, and guys with 3% T-shirts will be arrested by anti-terrorism task forces and charged with felonies for being out in public and inciting violence with their shirts.
I’m going to stop carrying a gun and start carrying zip ties since that constitutes being “armed”
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I've lost my "Dog Whistle" decoder sheet, can someone shoot me a copy please?
Well, for one: Remember when we discussed how the traditional "OK" sign has now been linked to white supremacy? Well, poor Kyle Rittenhouse decided to let his supporters know that he was OK after his arraignment.
Oops.
https://www.newser.com/story/301299/prosecutors-link-rittenhouse-to-proud-boys-white-power.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_crime
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Well, for one: Remember when we discussed how the traditional "OK" sign has now been linked to white supremacy? Well, poor Kyle Rittenhouse decided to let his supporters know that he was OK after his arraignment.
Oops.
https://www.newser.com/story/301299/prosecutors-link-rittenhouse-to-proud-boys-white-power.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_crime
Freedom-wise, there is zero wrong with what he did. But geez, I thought some top dog lawyers are defending him. Didn't they brief him on optics? He doesn't have to stay locked up at home, but he needs to be careful about where he goes and how that appears to his worst detractors (which include the MSM, who will happily set him up).
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So there is now also a "sedition task force". Of course just for the "right wing", not antifa or anything.
Are they pretty much just ripping off President Clark's regime from Babylon 5 at this point? AOC wants a ministry of truth now as well.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/14/catherine-herridge-small-unit-tactics-witnessed-both-inside-and-outside-the-capitol-building/
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And now they have arrested the antifa guy that claimed he was a reporter. If some reports are true he broke out the window the women got shot in. Hope they add murder if that is true.
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And now they have arrested the antifa guy that claimed he was a reporter. If some reports are true he broke out the window the women got shot in. Hope they add murder if that is true.
Has Kamala paid his bail yet?
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Has Kamala paid his bail yet?
Don't worry she probably will, it will just be delayed because of things.
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Are they pretty much just ripping off President Clark's regime from Babylon 5 at this point?
Who gets to be the Nightwatch?
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Sigh
Rep. Ayanna Pressley says GOP members of Congress not wearing masks during Capitol siege engaged in ‘chemical warfare’
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/15/rep-ayanna-pressley-says-gop-members-of-congress-not-wearing-masks-during-capitol-siege-engaged-in-chemical-warfare/
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Sigh
Rep. Ayanna Pressley says GOP members of Congress not wearing masks during Capitol siege engaged in ‘chemical warfare’
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/15/rep-ayanna-pressley-says-gop-members-of-congress-not-wearing-masks-during-capitol-siege-engaged-in-chemical-warfare/
LOL
In the mean time they seem to have forgotten all about social distancing because it is convenient for them do do so suddenly. Any one see the piles of troops sleeping inside the Capitol building?
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BREAKING BOMBSHELL: CNN Was In On It! Reporter Disguised Herself As Trump Supporter And Plotted With BLM Member
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-bombshell-cnn-was-in-on-it-reporter-disguised-herself-as-trump-supporter-and-plotted-with-blm-member/
Not sure how much this has been vetted, but interesting.
On Thursday night, damning new footage showed CNN’s Jade Sacker inside of the Capitol with John Sullivan, the BLM member who was charged by federal prosecutors for inciting chaos on January 6th.
Sacker co-conspired with the liberal activist in order to cause chaos and make Trump supporters look bad.
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BREAKING BOMBSHELL: CNN Was In On It! Reporter Disguised Herself As Trump Supporter And Plotted With BLM Member
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-bombshell-cnn-was-in-on-it-reporter-disguised-herself-as-trump-supporter-and-plotted-with-blm-member/
Not sure how much this has been vetted, but interesting.
The progressive militant arm working directly with the progressive propaganda arm? That's unpossible!
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BREAKING BOMBSHELL: CNN Was In On It! Reporter Disguised Herself As Trump Supporter And Plotted With BLM Member
https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-bombshell-cnn-was-in-on-it-reporter-disguised-herself-as-trump-supporter-and-plotted-with-blm-member/
Not sure how much this has been vetted, but interesting.
I want this to be true, I really do. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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He recorded himself and put it online. But of course it keeps getting scrubbed. He has been charged with inciting a riot and she should be too. They got that lady killed.
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He recorded himself and put it online. But of course it keeps getting scrubbed. He has been charged with inciting a riot and she should be too. They got that lady killed.
In a just world Google would be hit with criminal destruction of evidence.
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He recorded himself and put it online. But of course it keeps getting scrubbed. He has been charged with inciting a riot and she should be too. They got that lady killed.
That lady had full responsibility for her actions.
As did the capitol police officer who shot her.
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He recorded himself and put it online. But of course it keeps getting scrubbed. He has been charged with inciting a riot and she should be too. They got that lady killed.
I must have missed the part where a few agitators out guns to the heads of these people and made them do it
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Who gets to be the Nightwatch?
One thing I thought was interesting in the B5 story was the arc that we see of Nightwatch. We start with the kindly old man from the Ministry of Peace, Then Jon Vickery playing Mr. Wells, the B5 station Nightwatch organizer & occasionally visiting manager. A little more steel in him. The bitch political officer, even more steel. Then we see organized, uniformed NW, who finally get arrested and replaced by Narns as local security. In the end (https://hill-kleerup.org/blog/2014/07/27/b5-rewatch-3x11-ceremonies-of-light-and-dark.html), after the break with Earth, what's left is a couple thugs and a crazy psycho below decks, plotting an assassination.
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Don't put words in my mouth. I never said anything about the lady being shot not having respondsability. I said if the guy breaks out the window and tells her to jump in he is respondsible for her death as she is. Add in the CNN lady and it becomes a mess.
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He recorded himself and put it online. But of course it keeps getting scrubbed. He has been charged with inciting a riot and she should be too. They got that lady killed.
Noting would surprise me anymore.
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The officer or agent who shot the woman should be doxxed, his family endlessly harrassed, endure a show trial put on by a vengeful prosecutor, and life completely ruined.
Oh wait, the woman he shot wasn’t a lifelong criminal piece of *expletive deleted*it trying to assault him or fight with a weapon? Scratch those plans.
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The officer or agent who shot the woman should be doxxed, his family endlessly harrassed, endure a show trial put on by a vengeful prosecutor, and life completely ruined.
Oh wait, the woman he shot wasn’t a lifelong criminal piece of *expletive deleted*it trying to assault him or fight with a weapon? Scratch those plans.
No balls, you didn't mention the only point that matters ( to the left)
She was white, and therefore irrelevant.
Black lives matter!!!!
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Yeah. But that's "good" racism.
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12ft wall going up at the capital. Remember folks, walls don't work. https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/01/16/walls-dont-work-update-8-foot-non-scalable-fence-around-u-s-capitol-replaced-by-12-footer/
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Here's your stupid for the day
Vox
@voxdotcom
White women have always been part of white supremacy in America.
If we ignore the role of women in enabling the US Capitol riots, argues @annanorthtweets, we can’t understand white supremacy in the US — let alone dismantle it.
Vox says we have to look at the role of white women in supporting white supremacy and ‘enabling’ the Capitol riots
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/16/vox-says-we-have-to-look-at-the-role-of-white-women-in-supporting-white-supremacy-and-enabling-the-capitol-riots/
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What's the official troop count number in DC up to now?
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What's the official troop count number in DC up to now?
25,000 last I heard.
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More US troops in DC than Afghanistan.
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More US troops in DC than Afghanistan.
To be fair, the Taliban isn't as a big of a threat to America as is Biden.
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My wife and I were discussing this, watching the NG troops on the network news: are they being issued ammo, or are the M4s just for show?
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Just the sight of a firearm will make a lefty piss his/her pants..... add in a little transference....
Why would they need ammo?
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I’m strongly guessing the latter.
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To be fair, the Taliban isn't as a big of a threat to America as is Biden.
I wish I could laugh at that. It was witty. But I just can't. :'(
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My wife and I were discussing this, watching the NG troops on the network news: are they being issued ammo, or are the M4s just for show?
If I was being called up, I'd make darned sure to bring some of my own ammo.
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Just the sight of a firearm will make a lefty piss his/her pants..... add in a little transference....
Why would they need ammo?
They aren’t there to stop the lefties.
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They aren’t there to stop the lefties.
Also not necessarily to stop the righties. This is a staggering number of troops. They could have done adequate security with a tenth this number. This is a statement.
I recall that all of the left that are applauding the optics of this were screaming about ~100 feds sent to Portland to stop actual violence in progress.
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Also not necessarily to stop the righties. This is a staggering number of troops. They could have done adequate security with a tenth this number. This is a statement.
I recall that all of the left that are applauding the optics of this were screaming about ~100 feds sent to Portland to stop actual violence in progress.
Quoted for truth. The feds are telling the proles they had better stay in line. There is a world of hurt awaiting those that don't. And not just in DC, and not just for the virtual inauguration.
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Also not necessarily to stop the righties. This is a staggering number of troops. They could have done adequate security with a tenth this number. This is a statement.
I recall that all of the left that are applauding the optics of this were screaming about ~100 feds sent to Portland to stop actual violence in progress.
Maybe not to stop the righties, but the statement was made only in direct response to the first riot on the right in recent memory. Seems like a pointed statement.
I had a very anti-Trump client comparing the Feds going to Portland with Kent State. I wonder what he thinks about this.
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Probably among the largest troop deployments in the last decade? Well it makes it very clear who Washington is at War with currently. Let that sink in.
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Maybe not to stop the righties, but the statement was made only in direct response to the first riot on the right in recent memory.
I agree with this, and it's what I didn't make clear in my post.
If this were the Trump inauguration, we'd be hearing about despots, police states, and totalitarianism.
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Beeler was subsequently transported to USCP Headquarters and charged with Carrying a Pistol without a License; Possession of Unregistered Firearm, and Possession of Unregistered Ammunition.
"Unregistered ammunition".
https://www.theepochtimes.com/virginia-man-arrested-at-dc-checkpoint-with-unregistered-firearm-says-it-was-honest-mistake_3659637.html
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If I was being called up, I'd make darned sure to bring some of my own ammo.
And you’d probably be in deep kimchi....for violating orders
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Dems & the MSM 2016-17: Questioning election results is patriotic and must be encouraged to help protect our democracy
Dems & the MSM 2020-21: Questioning election results is sedition which must be prosecuted to help protect our democracy
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I’ve heard a Twitter rumor, accompanied by a photo of a NG member with no mag in his rifle with the caption of “Biden’s transition team ordered mags and ammo to be confiscated because fears one of the NG soldiers will assassinate him”. More likely they never issued ammo or mags in the first place. Or if they do have ammo probably ordered not to lock and load to prevent Snuffy ND or AD.
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I've seen the empty mag wells in all the pictures but speaking with a friend of mine this afternoon, with over twenty years in the guard after acctive service, said they had about 500 rounds for each one of them.
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That's kinda SOP. Even if you have loaded mags you aren't going to go amber (mags inserted) or red (round chambered) unless there is some kind of activity that makes you think you'll be using the weapon. And yes, that's to prevent clearing ND's.
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Another "unregistered ammunition" arrest:
D.C. police on Sunday arrested 22-year-old Guy Berry of Gordonsville, Va. for allegedly carrying a pistol without a license, possession of a large capacity ammunition feeding device, and unregistered ammunition, Fox News has learned.
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Now they are "vetting" the NG troops in DC for the election. So, be cardboard cutouts, but no ammo for you. More and more I am adding the tinfoil that Biden's great service to the democratic party is to die in a loud and glorious manner on inauguration day. Then we have a free hand to round up all those radicals. [tinfoil]
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Now they are "vetting" the NG troops in DC for the election. So, be cardboard cutouts, but no ammo for you. More and more I am adding the tinfoil that Biden's great service to the democratic party is to die in a loud and glorious manner on inauguration day. Then we have a free hand to round up all those radicals. [tinfoil]
I was just coming here to post that. On the bright side, maybe it's a message to the TDS people that the military might not just robotically follow unconstitutional orders (e.g., gun confiscation).
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The FBI claims that the woman who stole a laptop from Pelosi's office planned to sell it to Russian intelligence. This seem rather far-fetched to me. Why would one of these ultra conservative " 'Merica!" rioters sell information on the US to Russia?
I wonder if the same people in the FBI who spearheaded "Russia, Russia, Russia!" against Trump are in charge of this investigation?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-probing-allegation-that-woman-stole-laptop-from-pelosis-office-to-sell-it-to-russia_3660762.html
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All options are on the table. For some reason things are being pushed VERY fast regarding implementation of globalist totalitarian policies. The masks are already off, I would definitely count on "an event" that would justify taking off the gloves before the frogs start jumping out of the pot. Biden is just another old white patriarch, and Kamala is the unimpeachable authoritarian high SJW scoring stooge.
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The FBI claims that the woman who stole a laptop from Pelosi's office planned to sell it to Russian intelligence. This seem rather far-fetched to me. Why would one of these ultra conservative " 'Merica!" rioters sell information on the US to Russia?
I wonder if the same people in the FBI who spearheaded "Russia, Russia, Russia!" against Trump are in charge of this investigation?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-probing-allegation-that-woman-stole-laptop-from-pelosis-office-to-sell-it-to-russia_3660762.html
The Chinese were charging too much for the info off the laptop so the Russians had to try and get it by other means
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75% of National Guard are compromised Trump voters!!!
Unity!
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/01/18/dem-rep-steve-cohen-suggests-that-at-least-75-of-national-guard-might-be-compromised-because-they-voted-for-donald-trump-video/
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Once again, I am forced to ask myself "If the left wanted to incite a violent response from the right what would they do differently?"
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https://www.thebeltwayreport.com/2021/01/antifa-punk-confesses-capitol-riot-staged-posed-as-maga-instigated-riot-at-capitol-broke-window-at-us-capitol-building-during-riots/?utm_source=BS-Mailer-BW&utm_medium=email&utm_content=subscriber_id:23091054&utm_campaign=1/15am%20Biden%20Small%20Business
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Once again, I am forced to ask myself "If the left wanted to incite a violent response from the right what would they do differently?"
Well, how about this?
Banning gun safe ads? And how does doing any of this affect tomorrow? Are they thinking people are somehow going to do same day shipping of armor or a holster so they are ready to take over the country tomorrow?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/facebook-bans-weapon-accessories-protective-gear-ads-in-us_n_60037217c5b697df1a0624f8
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75% of National Guard are compromised Trump voters!!!
Unity!
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/01/18/dem-rep-steve-cohen-suggests-that-at-least-75-of-national-guard-might-be-compromised-because-they-voted-for-donald-trump-video/
Anyone who voted for Trump is considered an enemy of the state
BTW: How the heck does he know how they voted?
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Anyone who voted for Trump is considered an enemy of the state
BTW: How the heck does he know how they voted?
I was wondering that too. I think if the FBI or someone in command asked a guardsman who he/she voted for, the proper response is something like "Respectfully, go *expletive deleted*ck yourself" (go *expletive deleted*ck yourself sir if it's someone in command.)
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Well, how about this?
Banning gun safe ads? And how does doing any of this affect tomorrow? Are they thinking people are somehow going to do same day shipping of armor or a holster so they are ready to take over the country tomorrow?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/facebook-bans-weapon-accessories-protective-gear-ads-in-us_n_60037217c5b697df1a0624f8
Someone could drop a safe on Biden. Didn't you see Roger Rabbit?
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BTW: How the heck does he know how they voted?
Probably using Facebook data and algorithms.
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Did someone ask if this can get any dumber?
Enter Hillary
Hillary Clinton will never be president, but she does have her own podcast, so that’s something, and she even managed to wrangle on Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a special guest. Proving that she’ll never let up on the Russian collusion theme, Clinton called for an investigative body to finally determine President Trump’s ties to Vladimir Putin (maybe she could get Robert Mueller to head it).
She also said she’d like to see Trump’s phone records from Jan. 6, the day the Capitol was stormed, to see if Trump called Putin … for instructions or moral support or something.
We apologize that this tweet includes the sound of Clinton’s voice:
Hillary Clinton wants to see President Trump’s phone records to see if he called Putin on the day of the Capitol attack
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/18/hillary-clinton-wants-to-see-president-trumps-phone-records-to-see-if-he-called-putin-on-the-day-of-the-capitol-attack/
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During the local news they played a clip of an someone standing in front of an FBI background who, while talking about Jan 6, said
"Tipsters have turned in family, friends & neighbors who've become increasingly radicalized by inflammatory rhetoric "
Even a short, intense media campaign like this has been would have the same people reporting on firearm owners. Wouldn't take much, wouldn't take long.
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Is it possible that people in this country might become so stupid that the country becomes unsustainable? ? ? ?
[popcorn]
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Not all people, but enough - Yes.
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Is it possible that people in this country might become so stupid evil & corrupt that the country becomes unsustainable? ? ? ?
[popcorn]
Fixed it by myself ...... :'(
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Is it possible that people in this country might become so stupid that the country becomes unsustainable? ? ? ?
[popcorn]
I think we reached that point a while back. It just takes time for all of the "bags of wet cement" to hit the ground
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During the local news they played a clip of an someone standing in front of an FBI background who, while talking about Jan 6, said
"Tipsters have turned in family, friends & neighbors who've become increasingly radicalized by inflammatory rhetoric "
Even a short, intense media campaign like this has been would have the same people reporting on firearm owners. Wouldn't take much, wouldn't take long.
Oh My Mao! He voted for Trump! Hello FBI Cheka......
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During the local news they played a clip of an someone standing in front of an FBI background who, while talking about Jan 6, said
"Tipsters have turned in family, friends & neighbors who've become increasingly radicalized by inflammatory rhetoric "
Even a short, intense media campaign like this has been would have the same people reporting on firearm owners. Wouldn't take much, wouldn't take long.
Can we FOIA that list of tipsters so we can properly......thank them for their civic responsibility?
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Re: "Vetting" the National Guard, I think this quest for loyalty to the party is close to violating the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978.
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Re: "Vetting" the National Guard, I think this quest for loyalty to the party is close to violating the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978.
Plus just generally pissing off the military by directly implying that their vetting, training, and internal oversight are insufficient or that those in charge of it are incompetent.
Brad
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Plus just generally pissing off the military by directly implying that their vetting, training, and internal oversight are insufficient or that those in charge of it are incompetent.
Brad
Totally unrelated fun fact: the US military experiences only one quarter the per capita rate of criminality compared to the general population of the United States. As far as I'm aware this is the lowest for any discernable demographic.
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Totally unrelated fun fact: the US military experiences only one quarter the per capita rate of criminality compared to the general population of the United States. As far as I'm aware this is the lowest for any discernable demographic.
Concealed carry holders are pretty low. Probably don't have national data on that I guess.
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Totally unrelated fun fact: the US military experiences only one quarter the per capita rate of criminality compared to the general population of the United States. As far as I'm aware this is the lowest for any discernable demographic.
Infants. Checkmate. =D
(To be fair, much of what infants do should be considered criminal ...)
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Infants. Checkmate. =D
(To be fair, much of what infants do should be considered criminal ...)
Are you sure you are not talking about Politicians?
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Anyone else think it's both ominous and suggestive that the incoming administration thinks it needs to surround itself with a LOT of military force to protect itself from the general population?
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Anyone else think it's both ominous and suggestive that the incoming administration thinks it needs to surround itself with a LOT of military force to protect itself from the general population?
And is purging infidels from said military.
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Anyone else think it's both ominous and suggestive that the incoming administration thinks it needs to surround itself with a LOT of military force to protect itself from the general population?
It would be laughably idiotic if it weren't so serious.
They had a riot with *maybe* 7 or 8 hundred people acting out, and they have convinced themselves that there are 74 million folks ready to kill them.
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It would be laughably idiotic if it weren't so serious.
They had a riot with *maybe* 7 or 8 hundred people acting out, and they have convinced themselves that there are 74 million folks ready to kill them.
I have no way of getting accurate numbers, and likely no one does thanks to the MSM, but I'll hazard to guess it was considerably lower than that - maybe half that "acting out". It seems a lot of people that made it into the capitol did nothing but walk around. I might argue that many of those folks even thought it was okay to be there. Caveat of "ignorance of the law" of course, but that segment of the "rioters" have no business being convicted of sedition and other serious felonies.
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I have no way of getting accurate numbers, and likely no one does thanks to the MSM, but I'll hazard to guess it was considerably lower than that - maybe half that "acting out". It seems a lot of people that made it into the capitol did nothing but walk around. I might argue that many of those folks even thought it was okay to be there. Caveat of "ignorance of the law" of course, but that segment of the "rioters" have no business being convicted of sedition and other serious felonies.
They will be convicted solely because they are conservatives, Trump supporters, and possibly Republicans. Membership in any of those categories is now a crime itself according to the Left.
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A dozen NG have been pulled from DC (so far) and are heading for the reeducation camps. Claims are "inappropriate comments". Some were snitched on via some kind of tip line.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/12-national-guard-troops-pulled-from-duty-in-washington-ahead-of-inauguration_3663114.html
I'm betting innocuous comments, it was all the jackboots could find, and they had to pinch somebody for something to make the new regime happy. Likely these will be innocent guardsmen whose careers are now ruined.
Resist 46.
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I hope they keep it up. Every NG they pull is another Sargeant, Colonel, General, State Governor, or military-friendly political figure with that much more animosity for the current administration's bullshittery. If they do try to pull something as abysmally stupid as calling up the NG against general citizenry for some utopically-twisted leftist propagandic misanthropy, I want all the pissed off Guardsmen (Guardpersons?) and politicritters I can find on my side.
Brad
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Those NG members that don't want to be there have an easy out.
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FBI raided a house about 30 minutes from me. The local news *expletive deleted*ck standing in front of the camera made sure to point out “they have a Trump flag!” (Like 75% of the houses in this state).
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Anyone else think it's both ominous and suggestive that the incoming administration thinks it needs to surround itself with a LOT of military force to protect itself from the general population?
Yes.
One of the local radio personalities is calling this "political theater" - I agree that it is. I am afraid of what the 3rd act is going to entail. They're building up to one hell of a conclusion.
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Job #1 wanted a delivery driver tonight to run something up to the federal district. That’s a hard no from me.
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Job #1 wanted a delivery driver tonight to run something up to the federal district. That’s a hard no from me.
Think of the overtime!
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Those NG members that don't want to be there have an easy out.
... and it will only cost them their careers.
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A dozen NG have been pulled from DC (so far) and are heading for the reeducation camps. Claims are "inappropriate comments". Some were snitched on via some kind of tip line.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/12-national-guard-troops-pulled-from-duty-in-washington-ahead-of-inauguration_3663114.html
I'm betting innocuous comments, it was all the jackboots could find, and they had to pinch somebody for something to make the new regime happy. Likely these will be innocent guardsmen whose careers are now ruined.
It got me thinking about having political officers embedded in each military unit. [tinfoil]
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Infants. Checkmate. =D
(To be fair, much of what infants do should be considered criminal ...)
they are a politically protected group and always get a pass on disturbing the peace. ;)
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It got me thinking about having political officers embedded in each military unit. [tinfoil]
Well they did say this (quoted in the article):
“We’re not taking any chances. Anything flags, there’s any reason that somebody’s name is brought to the attention of the command? They’re being removed from the line. We’ll ask questions later,” Pentagon press secretary Jonathan Hoffman said.
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Yeah, we'll *expletive deleted*ck up somebody's career 'cause an ahole decided to get revenge.
Same ol', same ol'.
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It's all gonna be okay. Unbiased CNN says so.
CNN's David Chalian says that the side lights on the National Mall's reflecting pool are like "extensions of Joe Biden's arms embracing America."
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It got me thinking about having political officers embedded in each military unit. [tinfoil]
A redundant term; the officers are already politicized.
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:facepalm:
In case you missed it, a bunch of people on internet message board Reddit artificially blew up the stock price of GameStop, the brick-and-mortar store that sells and trades physical copies of videogames in an age where digital downloads are the new normal. You don’t have to know the details of the story to appreciate CNN’s Chris Cillizza’s hot take, which was that “Trumpism” was the explanation for the GameStop surge.
Here’s an even hotter take, though, from Mother Jones’ Ali Breland, who’s been scanning the messaging app Telegram and finding that “the Nazis appear to be trading GameStop and AMC as well.”
Hot take: What’s the overlap between the Nazis trading GameStop stocks and the ones who stormed the Capitol?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/01/27/hot-take-whats-the-overlap-between-the-nazis-trading-gamestop-stocks-and-the-ones-who-stormed-the-capitol/
Space Age ---> Infomation Age ----> Stupid Age
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^^^ I'm sure our robot overlords are rolling their eyes at the shenanigans of the biological life forms.
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^^^ I'm sure our robot overlords are rolling their eyes at the shenanigans of the biological life forms.
I wish I had a robot overlord. Probably be far more rational than my sociopath governor.
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A Second Police Officer Who Responded to Capitol Riots Has Died by Suicide
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/second-police-officer-responded-capitol-162405666.html
This headline caught my eye. Not sure what is normal for Capitol Police. The below article was linked.
https://people.com/politics/off-duty-capitol-officer-responded-riot-dies/
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Two cops suicide after a riot that wasn't really much of a riot. Something about this makes me suspicious. Along the lines of someone associated with the Clintons who committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head.
It just doesn't smell right.
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Cop suicide rates are high. Not sure it had anything to do with the mostly peaceful protest.
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Cop suicide rates are high. Not sure it had anything to do with the mostly peaceful protest violent, white supremist insurrection.
Gott keep on narrative....
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Two cops suicide after a riot that wasn't really much of a riot. Something about this makes me suspicious. Along the lines of someone associated with the Clintons who committed suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head.
It just doesn't smell right.
Naw, they do that ALL the time.. :tinfoil:
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Public Service Announcement: Don’t Be the ‘Zip Tie Guy’
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/public-service-announcement-dont-be-the-zip-tie-guy/
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Come on baby lets do the twist
On Jan. 6, that same threat descended on the Capitol. Domestic terrorists attacked the seat of American democracy, intending to violently subvert the will of the people.
These insurrectionists came armed with zip ties, pepper spray, pipe bombs, smoke devices and other weapons. They wanted not only to disrupt the proceedings that ratified Joe Biden as the next president of the United States but also to inflict harm on our legislators and on Vice President Mike Pence.
We may have D.C.’s gun laws to thank for averting such disaster.
WaPo Op-Ed: Washington D.C.’s Strict Gun Control Laws Saved Democracy!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wapo-op-ed-washington-d-c-s-gun-control-laws-saved-democracy/
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Come on baby lets do the twist
WaPo Op-Ed: Washington D.C.’s Strict Gun Control Laws Saved Democracy!
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/wapo-op-ed-washington-d-c-s-gun-control-laws-saved-democracy/
:facepalm:
Really? ? ? The STOOOOPIDZ is monumental.
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Has anyone seen any recent stories regarding the cop who shot the girl, and any investigations? I haven't seen anything since the first week of JAN, when they reported him on administrative leave.
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The ACAB crowd is celebrating him as a Hero of the Soviet Union
But you know, a cop shots a felon with a mile long rap sheet with a gun in his hand and the world ends
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Regarding one of the Capitol Police officers that died:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/02/05/vexed-cnn-reports-investigators-are-having-trouble-building-a-federal-murder-case-regarding-the-death-of-uscp-officer-brian-sicknick/
“Medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.”
Again, he never should have had to die, but it sure seems like there's more and more evidence (often ignored/deflected by the MSM) that things are turning out not as initially reported about the whole day. All the reports I read said he was absolutely struck by a fire extinguisher. I read it enough times from a variety of sources to believe it. Now the medical examiners are saying "no blunt force trauma."
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You mean it was fake news?
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News has gone rabid. It isn't news anymore and needs to be put down. Hell let's just call it what it is, propaganda. It's a narrative that drives a certain desired response. That's all.
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Regarding one of the Capitol Police officers that died:
I have not followed this in detail, but surely an autopsy was done. Have the results been released, or even with an autopsy they cannot determine a cause of death?
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I have not followed this in detail, but surely an autopsy was done. Have the results been released, or even with an autopsy they cannot determine a cause of death?
The results are scheduled to be released on a Friday, probably when a big world or national story is breaking. It will not be reported he was the officer allegedly who died from the fire extinguisher.
The cop who got hit in the head with a fire extinguisher during the insurrection then died will live on in the collective memory for decades.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html
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Now it's Antifa's turn:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-antifa-march-through-dc-chant-burn-it-down_3688149.html
I'm sure the .gov response will be very different.
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Now it's Antifa's turn:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/black-lives-matter-antifa-march-through-dc-chant-burn-it-down_3688149.html
I'm sure the .gov response will be very different.
Is there a link to this story that doesn't require me to register with the suite before I'm allowed to read the content?
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Is there a link to this story that doesn't require me to register with the suite before I'm allowed to read the content?
Look on the conservative sites I haven't seen this on MSM today.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-york-times-retracts-sicknick-story
Looks like it is official, the New Yawk Times has quietly retracted their story LIES.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-york-times-retracts-sicknick-story
Looks like it is official, the New Yawk Times has quietly retracted their story LIES.
Too late to make a difference of course. Just like on twitter when the fake story gets distributed 1,000,000,000 times but the retraction gets retweeted 147 times.
Also, this:
UPDATE: New information has emerged regarding the death of the Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick that questions the initial cause of his death provided by officials close to the Capitol Police.
So the source was Pelosi, who was standing next to a capitol police officer?
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Apparently the flex cuff (AKA zip tie) narrative has changed as well. It appears that while at least one person was photographed walking around with some, they didn't bring them along in some pre-planned plot to take politicians hostage. They were laying on a table in the building and one or more people grabbed them.
That was a dumb thing to do, but it was more like, "Hey look! Free stuff!" versus a long planned plot, which was part of the prosecution's argument in impeachment #2. One might ask what they were doing laying on a table out in the open in the Capitol building.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/02/16/the-narrative-that-rioters-brought-flex-cuffs-to-the-capitol-has-been-debunked-but-lives-on/
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Apparently the flex cuff (AKA zip tie) narrative has changed as well. It appears that while at least one person was photographed walking around with some, they didn't bring them along in some pre-planned plot to take politicians hostage. They were laying on a table in the building and one or more people grabbed them.
That was a dumb thing to do, but it was more like, "Hey look! Free stuff!" versus a long planned plot, which was part of the prosecution's argument in impeachment #2. One might ask what they were doing laying on a table out in the open in the Capitol building.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/02/16/the-narrative-that-rioters-brought-flex-cuffs-to-the-capitol-has-been-debunked-but-lives-on/
The narrative is settled
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Merrick Garland's statement:
"If confirmed, I will supervise the prosecution of white supremacists and others who stormed the Capitol on January 6 -- a heinous attack that sought to disrupt a cornerstone of our democracy: the peaceful transfer of power to a newly elected government," Garland's opening statement reads. "That critical work is but a part of the broad scope of the Department's responsibilities."
Biden introduced Garland as his nominee for the role of attorney general on Jan. 7, one day after pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol as lawmakers met to confirm the president’s election victory. In a press conference at the time, Biden presented Garland’s nomination as an essential step to restore the rule of law.
Garland will also discuss his "urgent" mission to uphold all Americans' civil rights after a summer of racial justice protests in the wake of the death of George Floyd.
"That mission remains urgent because we do not yet have equal justice," Garland's opening statement reads. 'Communities of color and other minorities still face discrimination in housing, education, employment, and the criminal justice system; and bear the brunt of the harm caused by pandemic, pollution, and climate change."
Doesn't seem like an unbiased, fair AG to me.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/garland-attorney-general-capitol-civil-rights
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Doesn't sound that much different than Republicans in power :laugh:
It's just a matter of how fast you want the handbasket to reach the agreed upon destination.
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Doesn't sound that much different than Republicans in power :laugh:
It's just a matter of how fast you want the handbasket to reach the agreed upon destination.
this
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Capitol Police say they have intelligence showing a “possible plot” by a militia group to breach the U.S. Capitol on Thursday, nearly two months after a mob of supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the iconic building to try to stop Congress from certifying now-President Joe Biden's victory.
The threat appears to be connected to a far-right conspiracy theory, mainly promoted by supporters of QAnon, that Trump will rise again to power on March 4. That was the original presidential inauguration day until 1933, when it was moved to Jan. 20.
The revelation was detailed in a statement from the Capitol Police. It comes at the same time the acting police chief is testifying before a House subcommittee.
Police uncover ‘possible plot’ by militia to breach Capitol
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/police-uncover-possible-plot-by-militia-to-breach-capitol/article_e55d7f5d-658d-5ad0-8c89-843cb58a2f03.html
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Uh-huh. Sure. Totally believable.
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Just in time to help the push for some gun control bills
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Police uncover ‘possible plot’ by militia to breach Capitol
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/police-uncover-possible-plot-by-militia-to-breach-capitol/article_e55d7f5d-658d-5ad0-8c89-843cb58a2f03.html
Oh, I see President Clark has put his people in ISN.
https://youtu.be/mAi_fQgD7-M
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They are still calling it an "armed insurrection".
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/03/to-my-knowledge-none-sen-ron-johnson-asks-fbi-official-how-many-firearms-were-confiscated-at-capitol-on-january-6/
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Kind off hard to hold an armed insurrection without, ummm, arms.
My PD support group is mostly liberals. Including a reporter from DC. Unsurprisingly the topic has come up in our weekly zoom meetings. They were talking about how they weren’t very good insurrectionists because as they “stormed” the capitol they were staying between the rope stanchions and were mostly pretty orderly. Ummm, guys, do you think maybe that means they weren’t “insurrectionists” in the first place?
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I see that the lead story on the NBC evening news tonight is the Capitol is preparing for something to happen tomorrow, since this is apparently the Inauguration Day for Mr. Trump's return to power.
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I see that the lead story on the NBC evening news tonight is the Capitol is preparing for something to happen tomorrow, since this is apparently the Inauguration Day for Mr. Trump's return to power.
On the conspiracy theory side, I have read two:
1) Talk about "an attack" is a great way for the gov and media to continue to sow the seeds of "white supremacy", keep the concertina wire up at the capitol, and keep pushing the "domestic terrorist" (right wing only) response stuff. Even if the planned attack was two drunk armchair warriors on the Internet.
2) Those qanon guys got talk of this rolling to troll the people in charge and get them to overreact to fake news of a "militia attack".
I don't like either one, especially with the guy pelosi put in charge of the 06JAN (I refuse to call it an insurrection) investigation. He seems like somebody who would love a police state, as long as it leaned left.
Certainly conspiracy or non-conspiracy, I hope nothing happens. No good would come of it.
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House to wrap early, cancels Thursday session amid threat of violence at the Capitol by a militia grouphttps://t.co/EEqNqiwN1m
— The Virginian-Pilot (@virginianpilot) March 4, 2021
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/03/house-wraps-up-early-cancels-thursdays-session-after-threat-of-violence-from-militia-group/
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And when only antifa shows up they will call them white supremacists.
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Kind off hard to hold an armed insurrection without, ummm, arms.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.6xNQBavXZ5cKrriyaNVwaQHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
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https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/03/house-wraps-up-early-cancels-thursdays-session-after-threat-of-violence-from-militia-group/
So.......I am not advocating anything, but if someone were to make threats for the next year or two, could we get the House to cancel sessions for a while longer? ...like a couple years?
House wraps up early, cancels Thursday’s session after threat of violence from militia group
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Well, now I'm leaning towards gaslighting and agenda pushing. I read this morning that they claim the "threat" came from the Three Percenters ("but we can't go into more detail because of security"), so fake news. That's not what the Three Percenters do.
If they wanted to make it sound more credible, they should have picked some wacko group, but I guess that thanks to the MSM, Three Percenters are more well known as a "militia".
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3 percent types are no first use of force in their bylaws. Zero details, sources, or arrests. If they actually had something there would be a Roger Stone arrest and show trial.
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3 percent types are no first use of force in their bylaws. Zero details, sources, or arrests. If they actually had something there would be a Roger Stone arrest and show trial.
In the meantime:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/03/04/infuriating-reporter-finds-us-doj-has-dismissed-dozens-of-felony-and-misdemeanor-charges-from-last-years-portland-rioting/
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Anyway, the deadly rebellion was "a mirage".
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/03/04/wapo-reports-march-4-threat-from-militant-trump-supporters-at-us-capitol-turned-out-to-be-a-mirage/
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Anyway, the deadly rebellion was "a mirage".
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/03/04/wapo-reports-march-4-threat-from-militant-trump-supporters-at-us-capitol-turned-out-to-be-a-mirage/
Of course it was. Everybody knew this ... except the MSM.
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Of course it was. Everybody knew this ... except the MSM.
No, they knew it as well. They were lying, just as the rest of the Democrats were and are.
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Will have zero effect on the narrative that our brave troops prevented an attack by the enemy
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…but there was talk of armed 'quick reaction force' waiting in Virginia to help Oath Keepers topple government if things got nasty. 2/5 https://t.co/P5dOrg3dX8
— Byron York (@ByronYork) March 4, 2021
Wait for it
Now, attorneys for one Oath Keepers defendant say 'quick reaction force' was indeed one person — 'in his late 60s, obese, and has cardio-pulmonary issues, a bad back, a bum knee, and is in need of a hip replacement.' 4/5 pic.twitter.com/oxt0P6ElvA
— Byron York (@ByronYork) March 4, 2021
:rofl:
Attorneys for Oath Keepers defendant say group’s ‘Quick Reaction Force’ in Virginia was one obese man in his late 60s
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/04/attorneys-for-oath-keepers-defendant-say-groups-quick-reaction-force-in-virginia-was-one-obese-man-in-his-late-60s/
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Yet we all know this will still be used to push a continued militarized DC.
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Funny how this little dance works. The MSM finds a new date for a new insurrection, and the gov wants the National Guard presence extended. They of course don't say that one is related to the other, but kind of a coinkidink that they keep happening, one followed by the other.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/03/05/its-march-20-yeah-thats-it-qanon-theorists-get-it-so-wrong-on-march-4-insurrection-claim-its-still-happening-and-lol/
https://www.theepochtimes.com/capitol-police-asks-for-national-guard-troop-extension-to-march-12_3721450.html
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:facepalm: I'm getting to the point where I'm wishing for a REAL insurrection ...... [ar15] :O =(
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:facepalm: I'm getting to the point where I'm wishing for a REAL insurrection ...... [ar15] :O =(
Don't worry, they are instigating as fast as they can.
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Holy hell, at least 100 more arrests on the way. At the same time that at least triple that number have had their cases dismissed with prejudice over the antifa and blm riots.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-100-more-expected-to-be-charged-in-capitol-breach-investigation-doj_3731136.html
“While most of the cases have been brought against individual defendants, the government is also investigating conspiratorial activity that occurred prior to and on January 6, 2021,” the court documents said. “Some of the conspiratorial activity being investigated, such as the activity under investigation in this matter, involves a large number of participants.”
"Conspiratorial activity" sounds like a dangerous and undefined catch-all.
ETA: Also this:
They noted that more than 15,000 hours of surveillance and body-camera footage is being reviewed, 1,600 devices have been confiscated, “hundreds of searches of electronic communication providers” have been carried out by law enforcement, and more than 200,000 tips have been received so far.
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Holy hell, at least 100 more arrests on the way. At the same time that at least triple that number have had their cases dismissed with prejudice over the antifa and blm riots.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/at-least-100-more-expected-to-be-charged-in-capitol-breach-investigation-doj_3731136.html
"Conspiratorial activity" sounds like a dangerous and undefined catch-all.
ETA: Also this:
Doesn't matter if the charges are getting dismissed, the message is still being delivered.
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Doesn't matter if the charges are getting dismissed, the message is still being delivered.
You may have misread. Those are antifa/blm riot charges that are being dismissed.
The message is loud and clear.
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You may have misread. Those are antifa/blm riot charges that are being dismissed.
The message is loud and clear.
Yes the Trump supporters are being held without bail until trial.
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Yes the Trump supporters are being held without bail until trial.
I was unaware of that. These are the same people pushing elimination of bail and letting (certain) people loose on their own recognizance, no?
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You may have misread. Those are antifa/blm riot charges that are being dismissed.
The message is loud and clear.
Yup, I misread, but we seem to be pointing to the same thing so no worries.
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a court filing on Friday by the U.S. asks for “a 60-day continuance” and for the court “to exclude the time within which the trial must commence under the Speedy Trial Act.”
Might as well ship them off to Gitmo.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/03/13/prosecutors-request-delay-in-cases-related-to-capitol-riot-likely-the-most-complex-investigation-ever-prosecuted-by-the-doj/
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Two men have been charged with assaulting fallen U.S. Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick on Jan. 6 after prosecutors say video evidence shows them dousing Sicknick and other law enforcement officers with a chemical spray outside the building.
He faces several felonies, including assault with a dangerous weapon, conspiracy to injure a law enforcement officer and obstruction of a federal proceeding. He faces up to 60 years in prison.
Up to 60 years in prison for using what appears to be bear spray, which antifa uses every night on anyone they don't like, in every city where they protest. I see video after video of them spraying people, yet none are arrested and certainly not charged with assault or carrying a dangerous weapon, and especially not faced with 60 years in the slammer.
The capitol riots were wrong, but the extremely uneven application of the legal system is even more wrong.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-arrests-two-charged-assault-chemical-spray
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Up to 60 years in prison for using what appears to be bear spray, which antifa uses every night on anyone they don't like, in every city where they protest. I see video after video of them spraying people, yet none are arrested and certainly not charged with assault or carrying a dangerous weapon, and especially not faced with 60 years in the slammer.
The capitol riots were wrong, but the extremely uneven application of the legal system is even more wrong.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-arrests-two-charged-assault-chemical-spray
I try hard to see both sides of an issue. Things wouldn't be "an issue" if there weren't multiple perspectives.
I have a hard time seeing any balance with how the capitol hill riots are being treated vs the routine riots that have gripped major US cities for the past year.
It's quite clear that legal force being applied much more heavily to protesters/rioters of one particular political ideology vs another.
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I try hard to see both sides of an issue. Things wouldn't be "an issue" if there weren't multiple perspectives.
I have a hard time seeing any balance with how the capitol hill riots are being treated vs the routine riots that have gripped major US cities for the past year.
It's quite clear that legal force being applied much more heavily to protesters/rioters of one particular political ideology vs another.
Message received, 5x5.
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On a related note someone asked me what was going on in Taiwan, something about some riots.
What does this have to do with Jan 6th you ask
Typed in "Taiwan riots 2021" in DuckDuckGo and stories about some protests over pork imports into Taiwan came up
Typed in "Taiwan riots 2021" in Google and after three pages of results that only had to do with the Jan 6 "insurrection" I found one on something going on in Taiwan from 2014.
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The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.
If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.
https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/
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The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.
If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.
https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/
Police use "chemical spray" all the time. If they try to make the case that it is deadly, what does that say about them?
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I wish the left would make up it's mind, one moment all police are the racist enforcers of white supremacy and the next they're heroes of the empire.
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The two men charged in the Officer Sicknick death appear to be getting railroaded by the FBI.
If they don't have any other evidence other than what this article claims, then the two guys are innocent and should walk.
https://www.revolver.news/2021/03/new-york-times-sicknick-video-creates-big-problems-for-capitol-riot-prosecutors/
Wow. The was a good read. Especially the details they got into on the imagery. This is looking like two guys who should have been issued a ticket for disturbing the peace are getting basically life in prison. Again, while all of antifa walks free.
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Police use "chemical spray" all the time. If they try to make the case that it is deadly, what does that say about them?
I was thinking the same thing. It even looks like a can of spray in Officer Sicknick's hand in the view from his body cam. That doesn't at all mean it was OK to spray him, but I've heard many officers say that when you use OC that it goes everywhere and it's common to get some yourself. So it brings into question why he would have a tool that might be fatal to himself if that's what killed him.
Why is the second guy, the one who didn't spray the officer, being charged with murder?
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I was thinking the same thing. It even looks like a can of spray in Officer Sicknick's hand in the view from his body cam. That doesn't at all mean it was OK to spray him, but I've heard many officers say that when you use OC that it goes everywhere and it's common to get some yourself. So it brings into question why he would have a tool that might be fatal to himself if that's what killed him.
Why is the second guy, the one who didn't spray the officer, being charged with murder?
Because reasons.
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While my sympathies still go to his family, Brian Sicknick appears to have died of natural causes:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/04/19/officer-brian-sicknick-found-to-have-died-of-natural-causes-after-the-storming-of-the-capitol-building-no-indications-of-injuries/
The MSM already did their damage though, and I bet a lot of people will still be going to prison because their phone's location feature put them in the wrong place at the wrong time.
EDIT: Before it's mentioned, yes, I'm sure the stress of the situation contributed, even greatly, to the strokes. However, individuals didn't kill him.
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Doesn't matter, the narrative has been written
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I wish the left would make up it's mind, one moment all police are the racist enforcers of white supremacy and the next they're heroes of the empire.
Same. Remember how evil it was to criticize the good people investigating President Trump's ties to Russia?
Also, just for fun, remember the bloodbath that ensued when all the white supremacists got together about a week ago?
https://www.businessinsider.com/multiple-cities-preparing-for-white-pride-rallies-over-the-weekend-2021-4?op=1
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Police use "chemical spray" all the time. If they try to make the case that it is deadly, what does that say about them?
The argument has already been made that when police use a taser, it's non lethal force - but use a taser ON a cop, and that's assault with a deadly weapon. So I expect the same argument from the same people when it comes to pepper spray.
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The argument has already been made that when police use a taser, it's non lethal force - but use a taser ON a cop, and that's assault with a deadly weapon. So I expect the same argument from the same people when it comes to pepper spray.
The argument I usually see is that is an attempt to get their gun which is a deadly weapon
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Tasers do kill people on rare occasions.
Overall they reduce deaths by making it less likely a cop will need to resort to a gun.
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They sure seem to be going all out to track down that Pelosi laptop "with nothing on it".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/search-for-pelosis-laptop-leads-feds-to-alaska-and-wrong-home-woman-claims
There was a comment in the comments section about the guy who sat behind Pelosi's desk still being held. Obviously only hearsay, but I'd like to verify that. He was a dummy for doing it, but it didn't deserve being held without bail all this time. Especially, again, when compared to how antifa has been treated in the legal system.
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They are still holding a bunch of people with no bail. After all it was the worst attack on democracy since the civil war. :facepalm:
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They sure seem to be going all out to track down that Pelosi laptop "with nothing on it".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/search-for-pelosis-laptop-leads-feds-to-alaska-and-wrong-home-woman-claims
I'd gift wrap that thing and mail it to Uncle Vlad, and then make some popcorn.
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Dollars to donuts it wasn't a goofy MAGA guy who grabbed it or has it currently.
The whole "insurrection" is sketchy, the narrative surrounding it makes no sense.
I believe nothing about it at all, one way or the other, because the only information available is from government and media sources.
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I'd gift wrap that thing and mail it to Uncle Vlad, and then make some popcorn.
Putin? There wouldn't be any point in doing that. Russia already knows what they want to know. Besides, Putin and Clinton are probably friends.
edit: I wrote Clinton, but meant to write Pelosi. Same thing really.
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Putin? There wouldn't be any point in doing that. Russia already knows what they want to know. Besides, Putin and Clinton are probably friends.
Who really knows? Anything that makes Pelosi twist is fine by me.
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Who really knows? Anything that makes Pelosi twist is fine by me.
Why would that hurt Pelosi? Give Russia leverage over her maybe, but they wouldn’t be likely to publicize anything unless kicking her to the curb served their needs. Say to advance an even more extreme candidate.
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So gov is claiming $1.5 million in damage to the capitol building. This seems a bit inflated. I could see a few hundred thousand, but $1.5 million? They are using that figure to charge all the arrested people for reimbursement.
Which, "Hey, they have insurance!" ( I know they don't - gov is self-insured). The point is that I don't see Portland and other rioters being forced to pay businesses to rebuild. "That's what insurance is for".
More and more, fed.gov is going way too far with 06JAN. They might have gotten away with more subtle retribution, but continuing to hold people without bail, shooting for misdemeanor trespassers to get 60+ year prison sentences, overinflating damages to force restitution, all while lefty protestors are walking around with "get out of jail free" cards. Not to mention Ashli Babbitt.
Maybe it's good they are being so blatant about this stuff.
The breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 led to nearly $1.5 million in damage to the building, prosecutors said in one filing, as they said in a separate case they expect to ultimately charge over 550 people in the incident.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Mona Sedky disclosed the damage estimate in a plea agreement this week in the case of Paul Hodgkins, who has agreed to plead guilty to one count of obstructing an official proceeding.
“Your client acknowledges that the riot that occurred on January 6,2021, caused as of May 17, 2021, approximately $1,495,326.55 damage to the United States Capitol,” Sedky wrote.
Hodgkins agreed to pay $2,000 in restitution to the Department of Treasury.
The Architect of the Capitol, Sedky, and the Department of Justice (DOJ) did not return requests for comment on the damage estimate.
A spokeswoman for the architect told the Washington Post that the architect’s office gave assessments of the damage to the DOJ, which used the information to calculate how much each defendant should pay.
Another prosecutor, meanwhile, disclosed that government officials expect that over 550 people will ultimately be charged for participating in the breach.
“The investigation and prosecution of these crimes will likely be one of the largest in American history, both in terms of the number of defendants prosecuted and the nature and volume of the evidence. Over 450 individuals have been charged. The investigation continues and the government expects that at least one hundred additional individuals will be charged,” Amanda Jawad, an assistant U.S. attorney, wrote in a court filing.
More at:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/capitol-breach-caused-nearly-1-5-million-in-damage-prosecutors_3845707.html
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How much of the damage cost is due to the clean up from all the democrats shitting all over themselves in fear?
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I agree the number is inflated, without a doubt. These types of deals always claim as much damage as possible. But 1.5 million is a tiny number. I wouldn't even have a hard time believing there was 1.5million in actual damages. But if the claimed number is only 1.5 million, it means they found practically no damage.
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I agree the number is inflated, without a doubt. These types of deals always claim as much damage as possible. But 1.5 million is a tiny number. I wouldn't even have a hard time believing there was 1.5million in actual damages. But if the claimed number is only 1.5 million, it means they found practically no damage.
If there were real damage, I would have assumed the usual MSM suspects would have had wall to wall video of it. Other than a few broken windows and doors and stuff, I saw nothing that was major damage. I wasn't checking all the news everywhere, but as I said, they were making this into the worst thing in the history of the Earth, so if they had visuals, I'm certain they would have used them heavily.
It also seems to me that most of the people there were looking for someone to yell at, and weren't there to destroy the building they wanted their preferred politicians to occupy. Nor, given their political backgrounds, would the "rioters" (that weren't inserted lefties) want their tax dollars to go to building reconstruction. That property destruction stuff is generally the purview of the left.
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If there were real damage, I would have assumed the usual MSM suspects would have had wall to wall video of it. Other than a few broken windows and doors and stuff, I saw nothing that was major damage.
Remember, these are the same people that pay $400 for hammers.
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Remember, these are the same people that pay $400 for hammers.
That's what I coming here to say.
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Let's say that tonight a gangster heroin dealer named Abdi Banikwee (born here, and his parents thought that was cool because someone told them it was from some country without sanitation) starts waving an AK around in a local stop'n'rob's parking lot. He announces that he's gonna go inside and kill everyone. If a local metro cop cancels his ticket, that metro cop will have his name, picture and address in the paper the next day, but on TV faster.
Most of midtown would be behind plywood again. Some of the stores near me still haven't taken it down - they got tired of jacking around with it. Some stuff would be on fire. There would be people from suburbia lost, and asking for directions.
We still don't know the name of the cufflink-wearing "officer" who executed Babbitt.
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Here's the first person sentenced from the 06JAN "insurrection". She sure looks like she was doing at least 10X the destruction that the antifa rioters in Portland did. ;/
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1407030961196482568/e647fWbM?format=jpg&name=small)
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/23/first-capitol-riot-sentencing-grandmother-pleads-guilty-to-parading-in-a-capitol-building-is-fined-500/
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It appears the above grandma, and several others with court-appointed attorneys are going through a little CHICOM style deprogramming. Wondering if being waterboarded will get them extra credit?
Note that this is not a right wing news source exaggerating things - this is a left wing news source saying it's a good thing. I also have to wonder how this particular attorney was assigned. Kind of a coincidence that a radically white apologist who thinks America sucks is "defending" these people.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/capitol-attack-defendants-history-lessons_n_60cba79be4b0a48ee253908e
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I couldn't read the entire article. Blood pressure was going up, dinner trying to come up - had to leave that page.
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I also have to wonder how this particular attorney was assigned. Kind of a coincidence that a radically white apologist who thinks America sucks is "defending" these people.
Apparently a LOT of DC attorneys are simply refusing to take on anyone arrested for the “insurrection”.
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Apparently a LOT of DC attorneys are simply refusing to take on anyone arrested for the “insurrection”.
Because they don't want to become entangled in political persecutions and become targets themselves, or they are onboard with the current narrative.
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Apparently a LOT of DC attorneys are simply refusing to take on anyone arrested for the “insurrection”.
Though in the linked article, they are talking about whatever version of public defender the fed.gov uses in DC. I know nothing about it, but always assumed public defenders were just assigned cases as they became available. It sounds like this lawyer got a very high proportion of 06JAN cases assigned to her, which if my previous assumption is correct, would be kinda fishy, given her politics.
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Though in the linked article, they are talking about whatever version of public defender the fed.gov uses in DC. I know nothing about it, but always assumed public defenders were just assigned cases as they became available. It sounds like this lawyer got a very high proportion of 06JAN cases assigned to her, which if my previous assumption is correct, would be kinda fishy, given her politics.
Gee, kinda fishy? These people are political prisoners in America. The whole damn thing is corrupt and despotic. Kinda fishy.
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The whole damn thing is corrupt and despotic. Kinda fishy.
What in DC isn't?
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FBI out there arresting people for standing in a hallway.
Way to go, guys.
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What in DC isn't?
I got nothin'.
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Further info on the grandma. She has apparently also lost her second amendment rights due to the misdemeanor "parading" charge. She had to sign a document admitting her "white guilt".
https://www.foxnews.com/media/indiana-grandmother-first-convicted-capitol-riot-ingraham
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I got nothin'.
I was about to mention some guy named K Frame, but thought better of it.
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You know that guy who sat at Nancy Pelosi's desk? Turns out a news reporter talked him into sitting there for a photo. Now, it might not have been smart of him to take the reporter up on that, but it didn't warrant having him sit in jail with no bail for four months. This is what the government said about him and his actions to get a judge to keep him locked up:
At first glance, Barnett is charged with what sound like serious felonies. The government describes him as a “Tier One domestic terrorist” and “a ticking time bomb.”
His lawyer got him out of the pokey, and from the sound of things in the article, the constitutional reasoning to get him sprung should work for most of the others being illegally held without bail.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/attorney-for-man-made-infamous-by-january-6-photo-accuses-feds-of-multiple-constitutional-violations_3879683.html
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At first glance, Barnett is charged with what sound like serious felonies. The government describes him as a “Tier One domestic terrorist” and “a ticking time bomb
He was probably some well meaning dipshit, rightfully angry over the stolen election just blowing off steam. I rather doubt months of unlawful confinement have improved his opinion of the .gov.
Self fulfilling prophesy .
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"You cannot legally buy a modern rifle."
"Okay I'm gonna go watch that Tom Selleck movie about Australia again..."
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Wow, just wow
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
Replying to @tomselliott
McCaskill: "We’re going to start a new family tradition in my family; on the Fourth of July and every Fourth of July going forward, we’re going to watch" video of the Capitol riot
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/07/02/claire-mccaskill-says-her-family-will-celebrate-every-july-4-by-watching-footage-of-capitol-riots-which-were-ackshually-worse-than-benghazi-video/
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5 out of 5 facepalms
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
The Daily Beast
@thedailybeast
FBI: Investigators found fully assembled U.S. Capitol Lego toy at Jan. 6 riot leader’s home
According to court documents obtained by Smoking Gun, FBI investigators seized an array of firearms from his home—as well as what the court filings described as a “fully constructed U.S. Capitol Lego set.”
‘He had blueprints!!!!’: FBI says they discovered a ‘fully assembled U.S. Capitol Lego set’ at the home of alleged Jan. 6 rioter
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/07/07/he-had-blueprints-fbi-says-they-discovered-a-fully-assembled-u-s-capitol-lego-set-at-the-home-of-alleged-jan-6-rioter/
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Hans Gruber had a Lego Nakatomi Tower ...
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oh boy
FBI infiltrates group that wanted to test bombs, surveil Capitol, secede from US, court records show
https://www.wlky.com/article/fbi-infiltrates-group-that-wanted-to-test-bombs-surveil-capitol-secede-from-us-court-records-show/36948912
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It appears that there may finally be concrete evidence regarding the shooter that day:
Now a new name has surfaced in the Babbitt imbroglio—Lt. Michael L. Byrd—and while USCP Communications Director Eva Malecki won’t confirm he is the shooter, in this case she isn’t denying it.
In a little-noticed exchange, Byrd was cited by the acting House sergeant at arms during a brief discussion of the officer who shot Babbitt at a Feb. 25 House hearing. Both C-SPAN and CNN removed his name from transcripts, but CQ Transcripts—which, according to its website, provides “the complete word from Capitol Hill; exactly as it was spoken”—recorded the Capitol official, Timothy Blodgett, referring to the cop as “Officer Byrd.” His name is clearly audible in the videotape of the hearing (see video embed further below).
Byrd appears to match the description of the shooter, who video footage shows is an African American dressed that day in a business suit. Jewelry, including a beaded bracelet and lapel pin, also match up with photos of Byrd.
In addition, Byrd’s resume lines up with what is known about the experience and position of the officer involved in the shooting—a veteran USCP officer who holds the rank of lieutenant and is the commander of the House Chamber Section of the Capitol Police.
Following the shooting, Byrd’s Internet footprint was scrubbed, including his social media and personal photos.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/naming-the-capitol-police-officer-who-killed-unarmed-jan-6-rioter-ashli-babbitt_3892747.html
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Update. It was still in the box I don't know whether to laugh or cry sometimes.
Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
Update on man with legos. "In original detention memoranda, the undersigned stated that law enforcement found a 'fully constructed U.S. Capitol Lego set.' That statement appears to be inaccurate. The Lego set was in a box and not fully constructed at the time of the search." 🙄
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/07/11/womp-womp-evil-lego-man-with-evil-fully-constructed-u-s-capitol-lego-set-story-already-falling-apart-because-duh/
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Other than being a lie, I don’t know why that matters. In a box, fully assembled. Who cares?
I guess if it is assembled then he was using that highly accurate tool for training.
If it was disassembled it showed the ruin he wanted to make out of the capital.
Or something.
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The biggest thing to me with all this is the judge appears to be acting as a rubber stamp for the prosecutor. No impartiality at all.
Not unexpected, but something to note.
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(https://i1.wp.com/www.winterwatch.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/d3d56032f029f9d9.jpeg?w=828&ssl=1)
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Entire family arrested. Note how they were caught:
Five members of a family were arrested on Tuesday for allegedly breaching the Capitol building through a broken window on Jan. 6 when the joint session of Congress was certifying the presidential election results.
Joshua Munn, 24, was arrested in Melrose, Wisconsin. He was released after an initial federal court appearance in Madison, Wisconsin.
His father, Tom Munn, 54, his mother, Dawn Munn, 55, and his sisters Kristi Munn, 29, and Kayli Munn, 18, were arrested in Borger, Texas. All were booked into the Randall County Jail pending their initial court appearances Wednesday, and jail records show no attorneys for them, Houston Chronicle reported.
Epoch Times Photo
A photo of the Munn family was posted on Facebook. A minor is blacked out and not charged in the case. (Screenshot of FBI criminal complaint via The Epoch Times)
On Jan. 9, the FBI received information from a tipster, a relative of Kristi Munn’s fiancé, that Kristi Munn entered the Capitol on Jan. 6. The FBI then investigated the case.
In the criminal complaint (pdf), the FBI claimed the five members of the Munn family “were unlawfully inside the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021.”
The complaint showed photos and remarks the family members posted on Facebook and Snapchat, along with screenshots from the security footage. Some remarks were private messages obtained through federal search warrants.
More at:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/five-family-members-arrested-for-jan-6-capitol-breach_3901208.html
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the FBI received information from a tipster, a relative of Kristi Munn’s fiancé,
That should make for some interesting holiday dinner conversation.
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Some remarks were private messages obtained through federal search warrants.
I'd be willing to bet they had the messages before the warrants.
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I'd be willing to bet they had the messages before the warrants.
Parallel construction is SOP now.
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Parallel construction is SOP now.
I had never heard the term before. In case anyone is interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction)
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I had never heard the term before. In case anyone is interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction)
Thank you, I probably should have done that. :P
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Hey, so given the new definition of insurrection, shouldn't this congresswoman, and everyone with her, be charged with a felony instead of a misdemeanor, and also be locked up without bail until whenever?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-capitol-police-arrest-representative-beatty-during-protest-in-hart-senate-office-building
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Hey, so given the new definition of insurrection, shouldn't this congresswoman, and everyone with her, be charged with a felony instead of a misdemeanor, and also be locked up without bail until whenever?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-capitol-police-arrest-representative-beatty-during-protest-in-hart-senate-office-building
Silly Ben.
When the Right does it, it's insurrection.
When the Left does it, it's mostly peaceful protest.
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A Florida man who breached the U.S. Senate chamber carrying a Trump campaign flag was sentenced Monday to eight months behind bars, the first resolution for a felony case in the Capitol insurrection.
Paul Allard Hodgkins apologized and said he was ashamed of his actions on Jan 6. Speaking calmly from a prepared text, he described being caught up in the euphoria as he walked down Washington's most famous avenue, then followed a crowd of hundreds into the Capitol.
“If I had any idea that the protest ... would escalate (the way) it did ... I would never have ventured farther than the sidewalk of Pennsylvania Avenue,” Hodgkins told the judge. He added: “This was a foolish decision on my part.”
Capitol rioter who breached Senate gets 8 months for felony
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/capitol-rioter-who-breached-senate-gets-8-months-for-felony/article_2f35db85-00c7-5461-86c4-bd667ed65424.html
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Frankly, the way they're reacting about a few thousand folks carrying flags, one has to wonder just how they'll act for a real insurrection.
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The more I see about the people punished, their pre-trial treatment, the ridiculous stuff they are being charged with, and the ridiculous sentences they are getting, the more I'm thinking maybe 06JAN should have been a real and actual insurrection.
Paul Allard Hodgkins apologized and said he was ashamed of his actions on Jan 6. Speaking calmly from a prepared text,
This reads like one of those POW videos from Vietnam.
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Frankly, the way they're reacting about a few thousand folks carrying flags, one has to wonder just how they'll act for a real insurrection.
They've pretty well tipped their hand on that issue. They've actually threatened using nukes so nothing would surprise me. Drone strikes on "insurgent strongholds" are not beyond the possible with these aholes.
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Frankly, the way they're reacting about a few thousand folks carrying flags, one has to wonder just how they'll act for a real insurrection.
They're obviously throwing the book at the people that were the most successful in breaching their defenses in an attempt to discourage others from trying the same.
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They're obviously throwing the book at the people that were the most successful in breaching their defenses in an attempt to discourage others from trying the same.
Which means that next time it won’t be play acting.
If what that guy did is a felony, well, remember kids, after the first felony the rest are free.
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I wonder - did they ever get all the bullet holes in the capitol walls patched? What about the wing that was burned down, and the holes in the roof from the mortar rounds? Are the hostage congresscritters still alive?
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What about when it got bombed? Oh wait those weren't Trump supporters. And iirc Clinton pardoned one of them.
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Main damage was Pelosi soiled her depends, which were probably already full anyway, and AOC wet her diapers
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According to the judge in the Hodgkins case holding a Trump flag undermines democracy because it “shows loyalty to a single individual over the nation”
The statements by the judge are outright terrifying IMHO.
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The biggest thing to me with all this is the judge appears to be acting as a rubber stamp for the prosecutor. No impartiality at all.
Not unexpected, but something to note.
He is definitely on the side of the prosecution. Disgusting.
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According to the judge in the Hodgkins case holding a Trump flag undermines democracy because it “shows loyalty to a single individual over the nation”
The statements by the judge are outright terrifying IMHO.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.etsystatic.com%2F23529370%2Fr%2Fil%2F878683%2F2513707809%2Fil_794xN.2513707809_bte2.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
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The jackass judge:
One of the "worst episodes in American history"...
Well, this probably was the "worst episode in the Republican Party history"...
This is the only time in my life that I have ever seen Republicans start a riot.
Now, if we were talking about the worst episode in the history of the Democratic Party, it would be hard to choose between slavery, the Trail of Tears, the Civil War, the Japanese Internment, the Tulsa Race Massacre, the Rosewood Massacre.... etc etc.
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Do any of you remember when the building got bombed? I think it was twice. Not by Trump supporters. IIRC Clinton pardoned one.
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Do any of you remember when the building got bombed? I think it was twice. Not by Trump supporters. IIRC Clinton pardoned one.
1983 ...... ? ???
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Do any of you remember when the building got bombed? I think it was twice. Not by Trump supporters. IIRC Clinton pardoned one.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/07/bomb-explodes-in-us-capitol-nov-7-1983-244578 (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/07/bomb-explodes-in-us-capitol-nov-7-1983-244578)
The article ascribes "retaliation for the recent U.S. military actions in Grenada and Lebanon" as the motive.
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You can't make this stuff up but they seem to have no problem in doing so
Thread shows that Black Lives Matter protests weren’t superspreader events, but the Capitol riot was
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/26/thread-shows-that-black-lives-matter-protests-werent-superspreader-events-but-the-capitol-riot-was/
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I'm sure Representative Scalise still has nightmares about 1/6. Until then, he'd always felt perfectly safe...
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Well, the 06JAN "committee" is going about as I'd expect considering who is on it:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-commission-hearing-cops-trump-republicans-capitol-attack
I saw one of the committee "republicans" cried during testimony.
In the meantime, contrary to Pelosi's statement, a few things worse than 06JAN:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/07/27/the-violent-domestic-attack-of-january-6-was-not-the-worst-assault-on-the-capitol-since-the-war-of-1812/
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Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?
Florida Democratic official suspends concealed carry permits for 22 people tied to Capitol riot
Florida Agriculture Commissioner Nikki Fried moved on Tuesday to suspend the concealed carry licenses of 22 people charged in connection to the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol.
“The deeply disturbing events that occurred at our nation’s Capitol on January 6th were sedition, treason, and domestic terrorism – and those individuals involved in the insurrection must be held accountable for attempting to subvert our democratic process,” Fried said in a statement.
Fried’s office did not specify which individuals would have their concealed carry licenses suspended, but so far, dozens of Floridians have been arrested in connection with the riot.
Florida’s Nikki Fried Unilaterally Suspends 22 Florida CCW Licenses Over January 6th Protest
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/floridas-nikki-fried-unilaterally-suspends-22-florida-ccw-licenses-over-january-6th-protest/
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Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?
Florida’s Nikki Fried Unilaterally Suspends 22 Florida CCW Licenses Over January 6th Protest
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/floridas-nikki-fried-unilaterally-suspends-22-florida-ccw-licenses-over-january-6th-protest/
Charged, not convicted, so the old, "guilty until proven innocent" thing again. Even if guilty, I guess it would depend on Florida law, but can you lose your permit over a trespassing misdemeanor?
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Well, the 06JAN "committee" is going about as I'd expect considering who is on it:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-commission-hearing-cops-trump-republicans-capitol-attack
I saw one of the committee "republicans" cried during testimony.
I wonder if it's an accident that TWO photos of one of the cops labels him a sergeant in the captions, while buried in the article he is identified (TWICE) as a Private First Class.
Poor Private Dunn. Such unbridled violence!
U.S. Capitol Police (USCP) Private First Class Harry Dunn talked about how the attackers hurled the N-word at him.
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Can the Agriculture Commissioner do this?
I wondered the same thing. Due process aside, I would have assumed that revocation would be the bailiwick of the issuing authority.
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I wondered the same thing. Due process aside, I would have assumed that revocation would be the bailiwick of the issuing authority.
I don't have a FL non-resident anymore, but IIRC, carry permits are processed through the ag department there.
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I don't have a FL non-resident anymore, but IIRC, carry permits are processed through the ag department there.
They are. Mrs. Fried is the issuing authority for FL CCW permits, so without doing a bunch of digging, I suspect she can suspend them pretty easily given the criminal charges. If they hold fast, don't plead, and are acquitted, they would likely see their licenses reinstated.
I confess I'm getting pretty sick of folks acting like a riot is the worst thing ever just because they disagree with it. Not only is it infuriating on soundbites and the internet, the over the top rhetoric breeds the attitude that the next riot might as well actually be an insurrection. there's nothing to lose.
Gods know what these narcissists would label something like the Whiskey Rebellion or the Bonus Army these days.
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Ok, thanks for the info. Kind of silly of me thinking the way the government laid out the system would be logical, I should have known better.
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It's because FL treats a CCW like a hunting or fishing license.
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A couple of stories:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/capitol-insurrection-guns-stockpile-fired-cop/index.html
Okay, this guy was a knucklehead and should have been laying low (and when will people learn to stay off the social media?). But... "guns bought over the internet", plus all sorts of other stuff that likely isn't true. I'm unsure how much of that is reporting vs authorities manipulating things. Like I see what are very likely dummy grenades in the photo, and am wondering if "bomb making material" is Tannerite or something. Again, guy is a knucklehead, but this illustrates how media manipulation could turn anyone into a terrorist.
https://techcrunch.com/2021/07/26/court-orders-us-capitol-rioter-to-unlock-his-laptop-with-his-face/
They sort of explain why technically it's not self incrimination, but this sure sounds like forced self-incrimination to me.
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There is that question on the 4473 asking if you are under indictment. I guess they are choosing to go after him on that when they won't for others. Reminds me that I think failure to prosecute others under the same law should be a defense to prosecution.
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A couple of stories:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/capitol-insurrection-guns-stockpile-fired-cop/index.html
Okay, this guy was a knucklehead and should have been laying low (and when will people learn to stay off the social media?). But... "guns bought over the internet", plus all sorts of other stuff that likely isn't true. I'm unsure how much of that is reporting vs authorities manipulating things. Like I see what are very likely dummy grenades in the photo, and am wondering if "bomb making material" is Tannerite or something. Again, guy is a knucklehead, but this illustrates how media manipulation could turn anyone into a terrorist.
It's really hard to tell what's going on with this guy. He may well be a bozo. However, given CNN's proclivity for piss poor reporting and just making things up rather than writing accurate news stories, I don't put much stock in their "journalism" about this issue.
edited for clarification
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https://babylonbee.com/news/i-thought-i-was-going-to-die-says-capitol-police-officer-who-held-door-open-for-protestors-on-jan-6
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Two months in the klink for "unlawful parading", which I guess is some sub-category of "insurrection"? Unlawful parading sounds like something you should get a $50 ticket for. People are going to prison for walking.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/08/06/justice-department-wants-a-2-month-prison-sentence-for-misdemeanor-unlawful-parading/
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AOC now claiming she feared being raped on 06JAN.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/10/aoc-now-claims-that-she-feared-she-would-be-raped-on-january-6-when-rioters-breached-the-building-she-wasnt-actually-in/
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AOC now claiming she feared being raped on 06JAN.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/10/aoc-now-claims-that-she-feared-she-would-be-raped-on-january-6-when-rioters-breached-the-building-she-wasnt-actually-in/
She wasn't even in the building
Maybe she should change her last name to Hogg
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AOC now claiming she feared being raped on 06JAN.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/08/10/aoc-now-claims-that-she-feared-she-would-be-raped-on-january-6-when-rioters-breached-the-building-she-wasnt-actually-in/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIGYQ7KNHc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZIGYQ7KNHc)
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Hmmm
Police probing report of explosive in truck near Capitol
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/police-probing-report-of-explosive-in-truck-near-capitol/article_6ef77bd7-4c89-5312-b3d7-bf5b51a5be9c.html
Capitol Police investigating suspicious vehicle near Library of Congress
Police investigating reports of possible explosive inside a truck
https://www.foxnews.com/us/washington-capitol-lockdown-evaucation-suspicious-vehicle
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AOC will be along shortly to tell us the driver wearing a MAGA hat tried to rape her.
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The Associated Press reports police are investigating the report of a possible explosive in a pickup truck and that the area was being evacuated. The AP, citing two unnamed law enforcement sources, said a man is in the truck and they are trying to determine whether he is holding a detonator. Police are sending snipers to the scene.
https://wtop.com/dc/2021/08/us-capitol-police-investigating-suspicious-vehicle-near-library-of-congress/
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Washington DC is MAGA country.
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Maybe it's Corn Pop
Or an Amazon guy talking on the phone.
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He surrendered. Haven't seen anything yet on whether or not he actually had a bomb...or raped AOC.
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Just in: Domestic violent extremist who was threatening to detonate a bomb at the US Capitol appears to have surrendered himself to law enforcement and FBI — crawling out of his pickup truck on all fours.
— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) August 19, 2021
‘It’s on you, Joe’: This appears to be a livestream from the man sitting in his pickup truck near the U.S. Capitol (watch); UPDATED
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/08/19/its-on-you-joe-this-appears-to-be-a-livestream-from-the-man-sitting-in-his-pickup-truck-near-the-u-s-capitol-watch/
philip lewis
@Phil_Lewis_
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This appears to be the livestream of the man who is sitting in the pickup truck near the US Capitol
https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/1428392832377708549?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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A bit more on the guy in the pickup truck:
https://heavy.com/news/ray-roseberry/
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[tinfoil]
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While driving thru Iowa yesterday I caught bits of a new story that a local man who had been arrested after the Jan 6 riot and released was going back to jail because he was caught listening to an anti-vax and anti-government podcast in his garage. That's all the details I got. WTF? I have trouble imagining a more blatant 1st Amendment violation. And how did he get caught?
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I have trouble imagining a more blatant 1st Amendment violation.
Why in the world would that matter? :mad:
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While driving thru Iowa yesterday I caught bits of a new story that a local man who had been arrested after the Jan 6 riot and released was going back to jail because he was caught listening to an anti-vax and anti-government podcast in his garage. That's all the details I got. WTF? I have trouble imagining a more blatant 1st Amendment violation. And how did he get caught?
I read that one of the “defense” attorneys assigned to those folks was having them watch/read all kinds of leftist propaganda while they awaited trial or plea negotiations. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the judges are imposing (probably with “defense” counsel approval/suggestion) that terms of release include not listening/viewing/reading anything that contradicts the official narrative.
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I read that one of the “defense” attorneys assigned to those folks was having them watch/read all kinds of leftist propaganda while they awaited trial or plea negotiations. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if the judges are imposing (probably with “defense” counsel approval/suggestion) that terms of release include not listening/viewing/reading anything that contradicts the official narrative.
Yup. I posted a couple of articles about that some pages back. The defense attorney is basically having them sign "woke confessions", POW style. I would not be surprised if there is some punishment stipulation for violating their confession.
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Yup. I posted a couple of articles about that some pages back. The defense attorney is basically having them sign "woke confessions", POW style. I would not be surprised if there is some punishment stipulation for violating their confession.
I'm not sure you can waive fundamental rights; if not those stipulations should not be enforceable.
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I'm not sure you can waive fundamental rights; if not those stipulations should not be enforceable.
And certainly not when it is coerced with threats of legal persecution (not a misspelling).
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I'm not sure you can waive fundamental rights; if not those stipulations should not be enforceable.
That assumes they have the means to hire a lawyer that will actually represent their best interests and protect their rights.
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That assumes they have the means to hire a lawyer that will actually represent their best interests and protect their rights.
If not the means, then the ability. Seems strange that many were able to find no one to defend them but that one guy.
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The cop who shot Ashli is doing an interview with Lester Holt tomorrow night.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/25/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-to-reveal-his-identity-in-interview-with-lester-holt/
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The cop who shot Ashli is doing an interview with Lester Holt tomorrow night.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/25/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-to-reveal-his-identity-in-interview-with-lester-holt/
The cop who shot Ashli is doing an interview with Lester Holt tomorrow night.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/25/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-to-reveal-his-identity-in-interview-with-lester-holt/
It’s funny how this Hero of the Soviet Union who actually did shoot an unarmed, innocent woman doesn’t have to worry about his house getting mobbed, jail time, career ruination, and losing everything.
I’m sure he will be all tearful about the terrible situation the insurrection was just like the other Capitol police officers were and how much PTSD they have from a spicy walking tour.
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While there are bigger things in the news today, he gave his interview. He said he saved countless lives.
An interesting side note is that he claimed he heard reports over the radio about stuff like a cop's fingers being blown off. Not to excuse him, but I wonder how much stuff was exaggerated over the police frequencies that maybe gave him the itchy trigger finger?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/08/26/officer-who-shot-and-killed-ashli-babbitt-tells-lester-holt-he-saved-countless-lives/
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I would feel like a hero too if I shot an unarmed person in an indefensible position.
I'm not excusing her actions but they could have yanked her out of the window and cuffed her.
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I would feel like a hero too if I shot an unarmed person in an indefensible position.
I'm not excusing her actions but they could have yanked her out of the window and cuffed her.
Who? The cops in full battle rattle right behind her? How could they possibly have assessed how much a threat she really was?
/s
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I still find it both fascinating and disturbing that they, dems & MSM, still run with narrative that if a bunch of yahoos had taken over the capital building, a building!, that would somehow cause the downfall of the government.
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I figure it's now okay if I shoot some sumbitch with a molotov... I'll save countless lives...
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I figure it's now okay if I shoot some sumbitch with a molotov... I'll save countless lives...
But then you would be depriving urban youts (who were just starting to turn their lives around) of their lives and their right to peacefully speak out as rioting, arson, looting, and murder are the only voices they have.
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The country is so far gone that they can go on TV and spout incoherent, illogical nonsense and nobody calls them on their BS.
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Additionally, I read this:
"At that point is when I realized they’re here. The chants got louder. I couldn’t make out what they were saying, but it sounded like hundreds of people outside of that door," he said.
Footage later depicted Byrd firing his weapon at Babbitt after she broke through a glass window. Byrd stated that he repeatedly yelled orders to step back that went ignored by the crowds. He further emphasized that the shot was a "last resort."
So what I read is that it was too loud for him to hear things, but he assumed his shouted orders would be heard. Also I see he had to say "racism".
And I still would like to hear something from the geared up cops on the other side of the glass that all seemed pretty calm, not even pointing their weapons at people or worrying much about being overrun.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/officer-ashli-babbitt-nbc-news-interview
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Have you seen the people that the kangaroo commission has subpoenaed?
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Additionally, I read this:
So what I read is that it was too loud for him to hear things, but he assumed his shouted orders would be heard. Also I see he had to say "racism".
And I still would like to hear something from the geared up cops on the other side of the glass that all seemed pretty calm, not even pointing their weapons at people or worrying much about being overrun.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/officer-ashli-babbitt-nbc-news-interview
How was it a "last resort"? She hadn't even made it through the door.
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So what I read is that it was too loud for him to hear things, but he assumed his shouted orders would be heard.
I can't imagine what difference it would have made if his orders were heard.
The police lines outside didn't stop them, the pepper spray & flashbangs didn't stop them, the locked & barricaded doors didn't stop them.
Someone simply telling them to stop was clearly not going to stop them at that point.
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You left out the guy holding the door open for them didn't stop them
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I can't imagine what difference it would have made if his orders were heard.
The police lines outside didn't stop them, the pepper spray & flashbangs didn't stop them, the locked & barricaded doors didn't stop them.
Someone simply telling them to stop was clearly not going to stop them at that point.
Hard to say. There are orders and there are orders. Sometimes extra punctuation helps.
https://youtu.be/sd2TrIQzp5g?t=32
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This situation exposes the hypocrisy of the left quite well. When some black dude with a gun gets shot by the cops, he's a total innocent kid just turning his life around. An unarmed white woman gets shot by a black cop, give him a medal, he's a hero!
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I can't imagine what difference it would have made if his orders were heard.
The police lines outside didn't stop them, the pepper spray & flashbangs didn't stop them, the locked & barricaded doors didn't stop them.
Someone simply telling them to stop was clearly not going to stop them at that point.
My issue is that the cops behind her, who were specifically geared up for response, unlike the shooter, didn't seem to find a need to react in that fashion, and they were completely surrounded. He shot her while she was still standing in the window frame.
This is why I would really like to hear what that tac team has to say about things. Maybe it will be something that favors the shooter and his response, but their actions in the various videos seem to counter his response.
Also, perhaps if she had clearly heard him say he was going to shoot her, she would have stepped back off the window frame. Though to me, a justified shooting wouldn't have occurred until someone completely breached the window frame and was approaching him on his side. He had the Thermopylae advantage.
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Also, perhaps if she had clearly heard him say he was going to shoot her, she would have stepped back off the window frame. Though to me, a justified shooting wouldn't have occurred until someone completely breached the window frame and was approaching him on his side. He had the Thermopylae advantage.
Perhaps not the best analogy for an argument that he wasn't in danger and shouldn't have attacked...
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perhaps if she had clearly heard him say he was going to shoot her, she would have stepped back off the window frame.
~10 seconds before she goes through the window the officer's gun is visible & ready and there is even a guy on Ashli's side of the doors yelling "gun!".
The signals were there, she just wasn't listening.
(https://i.imgur.com/xrAZMhC.png)
Though to me, a justified shooting wouldn't have occurred until someone completely breached the window frame and was approaching him on his side.
Would you honestly wait until they've broken all the way through the barricade and are coming at you?
If it was my office, I certainly wouldn't wait that long. (Thank goodness for castle doctrine)
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~10 seconds before she goes through the window the officer's gun is visible & ready and there is even a guy on Ashli's side of the doors yelling "gun!".
The signals were there, she just wasn't listening.
[img]https://i.imgur.com/xrAZMhC.png[Would you honestly wait until they've broken all the way through the barricade and are coming at you?
If it was my office, I certainly wouldn't wait that long. (Thank goodness for castle doctrine)
If the cop is claiming it was too loud for him to hear on his side of the window, why should she be able to hear? And again, there were a bunch of cops right there on her side of the window.
Depending on where you live, castle doctrine might not be your get out of jail free card if you shoot an unarmed woman, who had both hands visible.
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I suppose this can be considered related
Woke Army Sergeant Has No Qualms About Shooting Her Fellow Americans
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/woke-army-sergeant-has-no-qualms-about-shooting-her-fellow-americans-if-ordered-to/
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I suppose this can be considered related
Woke Army Sergeant Has No Qualms About Shooting Her Fellow Americans
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/woke-army-sergeant-has-no-qualms-about-shooting-her-fellow-americans-if-ordered-to/
Seems like that should be problematic for her, doing it in uniform and all. I might give her some benefit of the doubt as it looks like the video was clipped. If that's the entire video and it's in context though, I don't like her.
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If the cop is claiming it was too loud for him to hear on his side of the window, why should she be able to hear? And again, there were a bunch of cops right there on her side of the window.
Why would she need to hear anything to know she shouldn't be doing that? There was no one holding that last door open for them - they smashed out the glass and she started to climb through. Other people may have a valid defense of simply coming in later through an open door and staying within the ropes, but not her. Stupid games = stupid prizes.
Depending on where you live, castle doctrine might not be your get out of jail free card if you shoot an unarmed woman, who had both hands visible.
An unarmed woman at the front of a mob who just hopped the fence, entered a locked building, smashed the glass out of my office door and was crawling through to where I am hiding as a last resort? I think a decent lawyer could work with that.
You never answered how long would you wait to shoot, really not until they're all the way past the last barricade?
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You never answered how long would you wait to shoot, really not until they're all the way past the last barricade?
They? You mean her. Yes, when she was through the opening, maybe, if she was a threat. She's pretty small though. I might have expected one of the tac guys standing 10' behind her to stop her.
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But if she made it through the door she might have crowned herself queen and ended our constitutional republic!
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It’s one thing for a regular person to shoot someone trying to break into their home. It’s another for a cop to do the same thing. They’re trained on how to take down hostile individuals and to use a continuum of force. I get an automatic assumption that it’s reasonable to assume ready intent on the part of a home invader. A cop does not get that automatic assumption in the line of duty.
Me Babbitt was out of control, and deserved to cool her jets in jail for a good long time. Given how many cops were on HER side of the glass, if she was worthy of shooting why didn’t any of them even try to get into a good position to do so?
The capitol police goon murdered that woman. Had she been armed, made it through the window, especially with others, etc that’s different. He should go down, at least as hard as Chauvin. But because his victim was a Trumper, and white, he won’t.
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Untrained bureaucrat. I bet he was appointed to that position.
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Back to prison for accessing the Internet:
An Iowa man accused of participating in the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was jailed again after getting caught using the internet.
There was “clear and convincing evidence” that Douglas Jensen accessed the internet on a cell phone on Aug. 13 and watched video of a cyber symposium related to the 2020 presidential election on a phone days before that, U.S. District Judge Timothy Kelly wrote in a Sept. 2 order.
Kelly in July let Jensen go free from jail, pending trial, but with certain conditions. Because accessing the internet violated one of those conditions, Jensen is headed back to prison.
According to prosecutors, Jensen was found by an officer alone, in his garage, using an iPhone to stream news from Rumble, a video platform, 30 days after his release.
From the photo of him talking to cops, he sure looks like a violent offender to me. ;/
Have any antifa people been sent to jail for watching internet videos of the squad? Just curious.
More at:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/accused-capitol-breacher-ordered-back-to-jail-after-getting-caught-using-the-internet_3979883.html
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Back to prison for accessing the Internet:
From the photo of him talking to cops, he sure looks like a violent offender to me. ;/
Have any antifa people been sent to jail for watching internet videos of the squad? Just curious.
More at:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/accused-capitol-breacher-ordered-back-to-jail-after-getting-caught-using-the-internet_3979883.html
Jensen’s lawyer told the court in a motion for his release that the man had been “a victim of numerous conspiracy theories that were being fed to him over the internet by a number of very clever people” and that he had not intended to, nor did he, commit violence on Jan. 6.
Jensen did become caught up in the QAnon movement, which revolves around a number of theories, but recognized while sitting in a jail cell in Washington that “he bought into a pack of lies,” according to the motion. Jensen had a “wakeup call” in jail and was prepared to comply with conditions set by the court to go home, be with his family, and work, the lawyer added
Well gee that doesn’t sound like being held as a political prisoner at all
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Well gee that doesn’t sound like being held as a political prisoner at all
That is exactly what it is. Made to recant his politics in order to be released from imprisonment
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A judge has ordered the feds to release footage of the "riots" that they were holding back with the claim that it would compromise Capitol security.
I can see why they were concerned. You wouldn't want these wild animals rampaging through your building. They all need to be locked up for 50 years:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1440776133675388931
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/22/judge-orders-federal-prosecutors-to-release-new-collection-of-capitol-surveillance-videos-from-january-6/
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Another recently released video:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441195580735164418
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/09/23/tucker-carlson-has-questions-the-dems-1-6-committee-might-not-care-to-find-answers-for-based-on-newly-released-video/
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FBI had at least one informant among the Jan. 6 protesters:
https://conservativebrief.com/jan-6-51811/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD
Gosh, good thing I was sitting down when I read that.
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FBI had at least one informant among the Jan. 6 protesters:
https://conservativebrief.com/jan-6-51811/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD
Gosh, good thing I was sitting down when I read that.
Well, a couple of hundred qualifies as "at least one."
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FBI had at least one informant among the Jan. 6 protesters:
https://conservativebrief.com/jan-6-51811/?utm_source=CB&utm_medium=DJD
Gosh, good thing I was sitting down when I read that.
Thanks for the warning. This is my shocked face ->
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It’s one thing for a regular person to shoot someone trying to break into their home. It’s another for a cop to do the same thing. They’re trained on how to take down hostile individuals and to use a continuum of force. I get an automatic assumption that it’s reasonable to assume ready intent on the part of a home invader. A cop does not get that automatic assumption in the line of duty.
Me Babbitt was out of control, and deserved to cool her jets in jail for a good long time. Given how many cops were on HER side of the glass, if she was worthy of shooting why didn’t any of them even try to get into a good position to do so?
The capitol police goon murdered that woman. Had she been armed, made it through the window, especially with others, etc that’s different. He should go down, at least as hard as Chauvin. But because his victim was a Trumper, and white, he won’t.
Most every case I have head of where someone fired through a door (civilians), the person on the other side was making credible threats of bodily harm or death. Could this cop hear something like that from her? Was he alone and likely to be overpowered like a lot of those civilian cases? More than likely "no".
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Nothing bias about the wording at all
A House committee investigating the violent Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection has subpoenaed 11 officials who helped plan rallies in support of former President Donald Trump ahead of the attack, including the massive event on the day of the siege at which the president told his supporters to “fight like hell.”
The subpoenas also mention other events the group planned in the weeks between Trump’s November election defeat and the January attack
The House committee of nine lawmakers — seven Democrats and two Republicans — has ramped up its investigation in recent weeks as it attempts to dissect the origins of the insurrection by Trump’s supporters and find ways to prevent it from ever happening again. The Trump loyalists beat and injured police as they battled their way inside the building, destroyed property and sent lawmakers running for their lives. Repeating Trump’s lies about widespread election fraud, they interrupted the certification of President Joe Biden’s victory and left those in the U.S. Capitol deeply shaken.
AP = DNC
House panel subpoenas organizers of Jan. 6 Trump rally
https://www.wave3.com/2021/09/29/house-panel-subpoenas-organizers-jan-6-trump-rally/
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Federal judge states the obvious.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/01/politics/capitol-riot-mcfadden/index.html
(CNN)A federal judge said Friday that he believes the Justice Department hasn't been "even-handed" with President Donald Trump supporters who stormed the US Capitol on January 6, suggesting that they've been treated more harshly than the rioters in last year's racial unrest.
"The US Attorney's Office would have more credibility if it was even-handed in its concern about riots and mobs in the city," District Judge Trevor McFadden said at a sentencing hearing for one of the Capitol rioters, citing year-old complaints from DC Mayor Muriel Bowser that the Justice Department was reluctant to charge rioters in the city after George Floyd's murder.
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Furthering what Angel Eyes posted above:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-demands-doj-civil-rights-probe-jan-6-detainees-dc-jail
I don't know that anything will come of it, but it at least gives me hope that someone is doing at least a little something over what are blatantly unconstitutional actions by the DC Dept of Corrections. Though they really need to be investigating the Federal prosecutors as well.
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Some more info coming out on the Ashli Babbitt shooting. A couple of other cops testified that they saw no weapons in her hands and also that they heard no verbal commands directed at her before she was shot.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/documents-ashli-babbitt-death-foia-capitol-police
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Some more info coming out on the Ashli Babbitt shooting. A couple of other cops testified that they saw no weapons in her hands and also that they heard no verbal commands directed at her before she was shot.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/documents-ashli-babbitt-death-foia-capitol-police
No no no, the ahole that shot her was clearly saving lives. He's said as much. And he's black, so don't even think about criticizing his heroic defense of that office.
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First I post about investigations into unconstitutional treatment of accused persons, now I have to post about a judge that is passing sentences more severe than prosecutors asked for:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/13/people-cheer-on-federal-judge-sentencing-january-6-defendants-to-more-time-than-prosecutors-sought/
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First I post about investigations into unconstitutional treatment of accused persons, now I have to post about a judge that is passing sentences more severe than prosecutors asked for:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/13/people-cheer-on-federal-judge-sentencing-january-6-defendants-to-more-time-than-prosecutors-sought/
Assuming we can ever get a Republican POTUS again, (s)he better issue a blanket pardon to all non-violent protesters convicted over Jan 6.
I’m fine letting buffalo horn dude, and the people breaking glass or stealing stuff retain their convictions.
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Nikki Fried, who is running for governor in FL is revoking CCW licenses of 06JAN participants, who she calls "traitors". No mention is made on if these people were arrested, convicted, convicted of a misdemeanor or felony, or were just identified.
I don't know the details on FL CCW, but "guilty until proven innocent", using the kind of language she is using to describe them, might not work out for her. Either legally in her present position or in getting votes in the election.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/10/19/terrifying-nikki-fried-bragging-about-denying-rights-of-floridians-she-deems-domestic-terrorists-and-traitors-backfires-in-a-big-way/
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Assuming we can ever get a Republican POTUS again, (s)he better issue a blanket pardon to all non-violent protesters convicted over Jan 6.
I’m fine letting buffalo horn dude, and the people breaking glass or stealing stuff retain their convictions.
I might agree with the second, but commuting the sentences would be appropriate at the least. Nothing happened that day (done by protestors) that was worse than all the Antifa people who have been released with no charges all over the country. I generally believe the lack of prosecution of some people should be a defense to prosecution of others.
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Nikki Fried, who is running for governor in FL is revoking CCW licenses of 06JAN participants, who she calls "traitors". No mention is made on if these people were arrested, convicted, convicted of a misdemeanor or felony, or were just identified.
I don't know the details on FL CCW, but "guilty until proven innocent", using the kind of language she is using to describe them, might not work out for her. Either legally in her present position or in getting votes in the election.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/10/19/terrifying-nikki-fried-bragging-about-denying-rights-of-floridians-she-deems-domestic-terrorists-and-traitors-backfires-in-a-big-way/
I feel we discussed this earlier in the thread. She is suspending CCW's of people that have been charged with a felony, something that is specifically required under FL law. If they are acquitted she has to restore the permits.
Either way this is not her discretion, or something she can take credit for. Section 790 uses the word "shall" in describing both the suspension and theoretical reinstatement.
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I feel we discussed this earlier in the thread. She is suspending CCW's of people that have been charged with a felony, something that is specifically required under FL law. If they are acquitted she has to restore the permits.
Either way this is not her discretion, or something she can take credit for. Section 790 uses the word "shall" in describing both the suspension and theoretical reinstatement.
That's fine if that's the law, but given her position, she might not want to be throwing around "traitor" and other such labels for someone that might be proven innocent. It could come back to bite the FL taxpayers.
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She still has to win to say crap about anything.
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She still has to win to say crap about anything.
She is the current FL Agriculture Commissioner. Her department oversees all FL CCWs.
That's fine if that's the law, but given her position, she might not want to be throwing around "traitor" and other such labels for someone that might be proven innocent. It could come back to bite the FL taxpayers.
True dat. When she was running for Ag Commissioner she was a lot more middle of the road and not prone to hyperbolic outbursts. She was clearly not a Trump fan, but not stupid crazy either. The COVID craziness and her [apparent] burning hatred for DeSantis and the FL Dems pushing her as a candidate for higher office have caused some pretty dumb things to be uttered.
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U.S. Marshals investigating whether those arrested for the Jan. 6 protests are being mistreated:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/10/20/us-marshals-were-looking-to-see-if-the-january-6-defendants-are-being-deliberat-n2597629
Mistreated? Gee, ya think?
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The day the FBI created an "insurrection".
https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/
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The day the FBI created an "insurrection".
https://www.revolver.news/2021/10/meet-ray-epps-the-fed-protected-provocateur-who-appears-to-have-led-the-very-first-1-6-attack-on-the-u-s-capitol/
I was reading about him elsewhere, but this article is very eye-opening. Entire families have been arrested and locked up for just standing around, and this guy is off the hook via FBI redactions. Don't tell me that's not fishy.
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Now it's almost 10 dead :facepalm: ;/
‘WTF does that mean?’ AOC reminds us that January 6 riots at the Capitol left ‘almost 10 dead,’ and people have questions
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/10/25/wtf-does-that-mean-aoc-reminds-us-that-january-6-riots-at-the-capitol-left-almost-10-dead-and-people-have-questions/
Bet it will be almost 20 by next week ;/
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Certainly a number of people who were there have since died, and just like with Covid you can claim that their death is connected to 6Jan in some way.
That would be a much larger number. She should go with that if she's going to round up.
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Eventually, all of them will be dead. Huge conspiracy.
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The re-education has been successful.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/jailed-jan-6-defendant-released-after-denouncing-trump-now-says-us-must-build-back-better/
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Another arrest
Another Union Co. woman arrested in connection to Capitol riot
https://www.wave3.com/2022/02/16/another-union-co-woman-arrested-connection-capitol-riot/
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And another one:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/15/politics/mcalanis-capitol-riot/index.html
"sentenced for the attack"
According to prosecutors, McAlanis spent four hours on Capitol grounds before entering the building itself and remaining inside for about 15 minutes, during which he posed for a picture in front of a statue of Abraham Lincoln, as well as at other locations. These photographs were later provided to law enforcement by some of McAlanis' friends who tipped off authorities on his involvement in the riot.
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....later provided to law enforcement by some of McAlanis' friends who tipped off authorities ....
He needs new friends.
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A few good comments here including the Cheney family happily using this guy in the Gulf War, then imprisoning him for "seditious conspiracy".
Also the one about the Spanish Inquisition and people pleading guilty. Which is really apropos, IMO. I have read way to many reports now of people who have pleaded guilty with included statements of "how they see now how wrong their previous beliefs were".
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/03/heartless-ghoul-julie-kelly-drops-liz-cheney-for-all-but-bragging-about-oathkeeper-pleading-guilty-to-seditious-conspiracy-for-jan-6/
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(Bloomberg) -- An Alabama man was ordered to spend 46 months behind bars for bringing loaded guns, hundreds of rounds of ammunition and ingredients for Molotov cocktails to Washington on the day of the Jan. 6 insurrection.
Lonnie Coffman, 72, was sentenced Friday by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly. Coffman, a supporter of former President Donald Trump, pleaded guilty in November to federal and local firearms offenses.
The weapons were found in Coffman’s pickup truck, which he parked a half-mile from the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, to attend a rally at the National Mall, the Justice Department said. His truck also was stocked with large-capacity ammunition-feeding devices, a crossbow, machetes, camouflage smoke devices and a stun gun, the government said.
“Coffman also carried a loaded handgun and a loaded revolver as he walked around the area that day,” the DOJ said in a statement.
Guns, Machete and Ammo Get Jan. 6 Protester a 4-Year Prison Term
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/guns-machete-and-ammo-get-jan-6-protester-a-4-year-prison-term/ar-AAVLv5z?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=dc86caf47047467bad75d57c8b86cc78
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Guns, Machete and Ammo Get Jan. 6 Protester a 4-Year Prison Term
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/guns-machete-and-ammo-get-jan-6-protester-a-4-year-prison-term/ar-AAVLv5z?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=dc86caf47047467bad75d57c8b86cc78
Speaking as a supporter of the vast majority of the people who attended the 06JAN protest, unless there's more to the story, this sounds like a guy who gets to pay for being stupid.
I don't know if four years is fair or not, but you have to be an imbecile not to know the consequences of bringing that stuff to the belly of the beast. Park your freakin' truck in Virginia, and take the Metro to the Capitol, sans the gats.
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Or the federal government could respect the Constitution and not imprison people for peacefully carrying a pistol in DC.
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Or the federal government could respect the Constitution and not imprison people for peacefully carrying a pistol in DC.
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If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak. In the meantime, situational awareness and a brain would generally guide a person to not strap on a blaster in DC, just like it is ill advised to show up at an antifa protest with a red ball cap.
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If wishes were horses, we'd all be eating steak. In the meantime, situational awareness and a brain would generally guide a person to not strap on a blaster in DC, just like it is ill advised to show up at an antifa protest with a red ball cap.
I thought that saying was If wishes was fishes we would all be eating lobster.
How anyone thinks it is OK to roam around DC with a gun is amazing, have they been living under a rock for the last 40 years?
bob
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I thought that saying was If wishes was fishes we would all be eating lobster.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefly/comments/46nfwh/if_wishes_were_horses_wed_all_be_eating_steak/
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One of only a couple of "not guilty" verdicts that I've heard of. Looks like the judge decided it on the fact that the cops let this guy into the building. He appears to be one of the "tourist insurrectionists" who was only walking around, even though the gov charged him with a half dozen crimes.
From the article, the FBI has arrested 775 people for 06JAN. How many antifa were arrested across the US in an entire Summer of rioting?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/06/judge-apparently-agreed-with-man-facing-jan-6-charges-that-capitol-police-let-him-in-the-building/
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One of only a couple of "not guilty" verdicts that I've heard of. Looks like the judge decided it on the fact that the cops let this guy into the building. He appears to be one of the "tourist insurrectionists" who was only walking around, even though the gov charged him with a half dozen crimes.
From the article, the FBI has arrested 775 people for 06JAN. How many antifa were arrested across the US in an entire Summer of rioting?
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/04/06/judge-apparently-agreed-with-man-facing-jan-6-charges-that-capitol-police-let-him-in-the-building/
I was about to post about this case:
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/06/judge-issues-first-outright-acquittal-of-jan-6-riot-defendant-00023493
However, the verdict could be viewed as a message from McFadden to prosecutors that pursuing criminal charges against nearly every demonstrator who entered the Capitol on Jan. 6 was unwise and that resources should have been trained more intensely on those accused of violence or of conspiring to block the electoral vote count.
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Are there any of those charged with misdemeanors still locked up awaiting trial?
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Are there any of those charged with misdemeanors still locked up awaiting trial?
As far as I know, most of them are. One would think if they were mostly being granted bail we’d have heard about it from Daily Wire or Steven Crowder or something.
ETA: how much y’all want to bet they try billing the defendants for room and board after acquittal or dismissal of charges? I know they’ve done that to some people exonerated after years/decades in prison after a wrongful conviction.
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So they are planning on holding 06JAN hearings televised in prime time and have hired a Hollywood guy to produce it. Should be a really big show.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/06/january-6-committee-hires-a-network-news-vet-to-make-its-prime-time-hearings-a-blockbuster-event/
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With the mid-terms coming up they're pulling out all the stops.
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That just might be the GOTV effort the Rs need, and typically fail to achieve.
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Bloomberg laments that GOP politicians are not being "punished" by the voters over the Jan. 6 protest/riot/insurrection/whatever:
https://twitter.com/i/events/1533814628714782720
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Rep. Jamie Raskin says the January 6 committee has found more evidence on Donald Trump than just ‘incitement’
]https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/06/rep-jamie-raskin-says-the-january-6-committee-has-found-more-evidence-on-donald-trump-than-just-incitement/
That's great considering you never even found incitement
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More:
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/07/nyt-gives-away-the-january-6-committees-real-game-and-even-some-libs-are-disgusted/
They are setting up "watch parties" just like a Hollywood or sporting event.
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Worth reading the whole thing:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/07/we-are-no-longer-free-steve-deace-shares-heartbreaking-letter-from-january-6thr-who-took-a-plea-deal-in-eye-opening-thread/
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Worth reading the whole thing
I assume they don't identify themselves because that would violate conditions of their plea deal. :police:
Without knowing the context - what they were charged with and especially the evidence against them to support those charges, why should I trust this anonymous source?
Plenty of guilty people make similar claims of persecution/innocence but what matters is the evidence (or lack thereof).
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I assume they don't identify themselves because that would violate conditions of their plea deal. :police:
Without knowing the context - what they were charged with and especially the evidence against them to support those charges, why should I trust this anonymous source?
Plenty of guilty people make similar claims of persecution/innocence but what matters is the evidence (or lack thereof).
That comports with Brendon Straka’s account among others. So I find it totally believable. Some evidence would be good of course.
Honestly if I was that guy it would be hard to say whether I’d just sink into a pit of depression or if I’d go Marvin Heemeyer on everyone I could.
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:rofl:
Media strategists praised JAN6NN's rebrand as the most brilliant corporate news decision since the announcement of CNN+, and predicted JAN6NN would quickly double viewerships to 348 viewers.
CNN Rebrands To JAN6NN
https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-rebrands-to-jan6nn
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After just one minute in, Jan 6th committee Democrat Rep. Bennie Thomson compares Jan 6th defenders to people defending "slavery, ku klux klan, and lynching” .
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) June 10, 2022
Wonder if anyone caught the irony in that he's comparing them to democrats
January 6 committee chair Bennie Thompson kicks off remarks with slavery, the Ku Klux Klan, and lynching
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/09/january-6-committee-chair-bennie-thompson-kicks-off-remarks-with-slavery-the-ku-klux-klan-and-lynching/
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She's not admitting anything, she just realized how stupid the dems are going to look when they produce another nothing burger and is trying to distance herself from it
Hell freeze over? Rachel Maddow actually ADMITS Trump and his rally had nothing to do with Jan. 6 Capitol breach (no seriously, WATCH)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/10/hell-freeze-over-rachel-maddow-actually-admits-trump-and-his-rally-had-nothing-to-do-with-jan-6-capitol-breach-no-seriously-watch/
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Here's the Bee again
Dems To Hold June 9th Hearings To Get To The Bottom Of Why No One Watched Jan. 6th Hearings
https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-to-hold-june-9th-hearings-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-why-no-one-watched-jan-6th-hearings
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FBI Raids Home Of Michigan GOP Gubernatorial Candidate And Whitmer Challenger, Takes Him Into Custody
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fbi-raids-home-of-michigan-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-and-whitmer-challenger-takes-him-into-custody-report
Bridge News reporter Jonathan Oosting provided an update to the reported raid and arrest, writing, “Ryan Kelley is facing multiple charges related to January 6, 2021. He has admitted he was at the riots but claims he did not go inside the U.S. Capitol.”
Don't worry, the FBI is on the case.
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FBI Raids Home Of Michigan GOP Gubernatorial Candidate And Whitmer Challenger, Takes Him Into Custody
https://www.dailywire.com/news/fbi-raids-home-of-michigan-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-and-whitmer-challenger-takes-him-into-custody-report
Don't worry, the FBI is on the case.
So 1.5 years later, they are arresting people for parading? This is pure police state. I guess it helps Whitmer and the committee to create Prime Time Hollywood produced, selectively edited, democratic campaign events.
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Have they arrested Hogg yet for Parkland? He was "there"
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Or for that matter Pelosi, and Chucky. They were there.
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So 1.5 years later, they are arresting people for parading? This is pure police state. I guess it helps Whitmer and the committee to create Prime Time Hollywood produced, selectively edited, democratic campaign events.
The FBI raided this guy over alleged 1.5 year old misdemeanors! This is straight up political. The DOJ is now fully weaponized to the benefit of Democrats.
Has the FBI raided any of the BLM rioters? /rhetorical question
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Larry Correia expresses himself ... in his usual understated style:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/10/now-they-know-how-it-feels-to-be-afraid-thread-on-the-ugly-truth-about-what-regular-americans-really-think-about-january-6-is-straight-fire/
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Wrong think will be punished
Washington Redskins Commanders coach voices a non-narrative opinion on Jan 6th and gets fined $100k by the organization.
Statement from the team
https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1535323474406920193
DUMPSTER fire organization –> Commanders’ Ron Rivera fining Coach Del Rio $100k for simply voicing his Jan 6th opinion goes SOOO very wrong (statement)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/10/dumpster-fire-organization-commanders-ron-rivera-fining-coach-del-rio-100k-for-simply-voicing-his-jan-6th-opinion-goes-sooo-very-wrong-statement/
What got him in hot water
The Recount
@therecount
· Jun 8
Washington Commanders Defensive Coordinator Jack Del Rio says there are “two standards” between Black Lives Matter protests and January 6th:
“We have a dust-up at the Capitol, nothing burned down, and we’re gonna make that a major deal.”
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Wrong think will be punished
Washington Redskins Commanders coach voices a non-narrative opinion on Jan 6th and gets fined $100k by the organization.
Statement from the team
https://twitter.com/Commanders/status/1535323474406920193
DUMPSTER fire organization –> Commanders’ Ron Rivera fining Coach Del Rio $100k for simply voicing his Jan 6th opinion goes SOOO very wrong (statement)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/10/dumpster-fire-organization-commanders-ron-rivera-fining-coach-del-rio-100k-for-simply-voicing-his-jan-6th-opinion-goes-sooo-very-wrong-statement/
What got him in hot water
This is one of those, "never apologize" cases. He apologized (even though he had nothing to apologize for) to appease them, and they still did this to him.
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Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈
@MrAndyNgo
Flashback: In May 2020, mobs of fat-left rioters tried to storm the White House. They were repelled by police, who were assaulted and hit with projectiles. Democrats and leftists condemned law enforcement at the time for stopping the rioters. #CapitolRiot
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1479245177248174081
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That one resulted in over 50 secret service and police injuries.
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That one resulted in over 50 secret service and police injuries.
93% peaceful
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That one resulted in over 50 secret service and police injuries.
Yet no one got shot?
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Ratings for the Dems' prime-time dog-and-pony show fell flat:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/06/10/despite-massive-media-promotion-and-every-outlet-pushing-j6-prime-time-hearings-fall-flat-with-less-than-half-regular-audience/
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/48c64c586585d25c899d46fa82a3ceff/c16f726d98b1b6b6-9c/s1280x1920/312ecc565685b8b784d5ba5ffa0e63778ac95e96.jpg)
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^^^
So on target. From the "event snark" to the song title.
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Apparently they canceled Wednesday's hearings
Gosh, that’s a SHAME: January 6 Committee cancels Wednesday hearing out of the BLUE and people have (brutally hilarious) thoughts
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/14/gosh-thats-a-shame-january-6-committee-cancels-wednesday-hearing-out-of-the-blue-and-people-have-brutally-hilarious-thoughts/
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^^^
So on target. From the "event snark" to the song title.
Considering what Christina Aguilera did at the "family friendly" pride festival, that seems consistent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-CYsZHGsks
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"Once again we are seeing the tragic human cost of the evil MAGA insurrection on January 6th," said Adam Schiff as several attendees fell out of their chairs and passed away, unable to watch one more second of the tiresome hearings. "Trump must be held responsible for these untimely deaths."
"OH, THE HUMANITY!"
Death Toll From Jan. 6 Skyrockets As Hearing Viewers Die Of Boredom
https://babylonbee.com/news/death-toll-from-jan-6-skyrockets-as-hearing-viewers-die-of-boredom
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A republican lead a tour of the capital building the day before AND they took photos!
*GASP*!
Except he wasn't in the capital building
BREAKING NEWS: Capitol Police Confirms Loudermilk Gave Large Capitol Complex Tour on Insurrection Eve in Buildings Trumpist Insurrectionists Aimed to Occupy
I hope you’ll RETWEET this—as it proves that today’s breaking news isn’t what anyone thought. https://t.co/oJJc2jmDzn
— Seth Abramson (@SethAbramson) June 14, 2022
Chief of Capitol Police YESTERDAY: “No evidence” Loudermilk entered Capitol on 1/5 with tour group. "We train our officers on being alert for people conducting surveillance or reconnaissance, and we do not consider any of the activities we observed as suspicious." pic.twitter.com/mzhPCOaDVO
— Steve Krakauer (@SteveKrak) June 15, 2022
The Capitol police are covering for insurrectionists now :rofl:
January 6 committee doesn’t let a little thing like Capitol Police Chief contradicting their Barry Loudermilk narrative get in their way
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/06/15/january-6-committee-doesnt-let-a-little-thing-like-capitol-police-chief-contradicting-their-barry-loudermilk-narrative-get-in-their-way/
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Insurrection Eve
It's like a holiday with these *expletive deleted*ing aholes. GMAFB.
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It's like a holiday with these *expletive deleted*ing aholes. GMAFB.
When can we buy cards at Hallmark?
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When can we buy cards at Hallmark?
My friend retired several years ago or I could have made that happen for a small run.
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Remember, remember the
5th of November 6th of January.
[ar15]
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NEVER FORGET: Antifa-BLM Leader Who Was Filmed Inside US Capitol on Jan. 6, Broke a Window, and Organized Antifa Rally Near Capitol That Day – ONLY SPENT ONE DAY IN JAIL
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/never-forget-antifa-operative-filmed-inside-us-capitol-jan-6-broke-window-organized-antifa-rally-near-capitol-day-spent-one-day-jail/
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Sean Hannity Proposed Hunter Biden Pardon to Trump Spox Following January 6 Capitol Protest
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/sean-hannity-proposed-hunter-biden-pardon-trump-spox-january-6-capitol-protest/
This one is new to me.
Hannity suggested to Kayleigh McEnany that Trump pardon Hunter Biden before exiting the White House in 2021 according to text messages obtained by the January 6 panel.
The idea to pardon Hunter was not Hannity’s idea, but he pitched the plan to McEnany, according to the Beast.
January 6 Committee Leaks Sean Hannity’s Text Messages to CNN
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/january-6-committee-leaks-sean-hannitys-text-messages-cnn/
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I heard it said that the Jan 6th Committee is no longer seriously interested in Jan 6th. They are just using the committee as cover to dig up dirt on political rivals. I hadn't considered that, but it makes perfect sense. Along the lines of "never let a tragedy go to waist.".
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I heard it said that the Jan 6th Committee is no longer seriously interested in Jan 6th. They are just using the committee as cover to dig up dirt on political rivals. I hadn't considered that, but it makes perfect sense. Along the lines of "never let a tragedy go to waist.".
Here's some proof:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/16/we-now-know-what-the-man-in-the-january-6-committee-video-filmed-in-the-stairwell-why-should-we-trust-anything-dems-journos-say-going-forward/
This is right on the lines of criminal. In a sane world, the committee would be immediately dissolved, and those on it would be forced to resign from Congress.
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Here's some proof:
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/16/we-now-know-what-the-man-in-the-january-6-committee-video-filmed-in-the-stairwell-why-should-we-trust-anything-dems-journos-say-going-forward/
This is right on the lines of criminal. In a sane world, the committee would be immediately dissolved, and those on it would be forced to resign from Congress.
I remember after 9/11 people on the news breathlessly recalling how they had seen Arab looking people taking pictures of the buildings.
Well yeah, it was a big freaking tourist attraction. Tourist do those sort of things, Duh!
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INSURRECTION: Colbert Producers Caught by Police Invading US Capitol After Work Hours — Aided by Adam Schiff — Stalk and Harass US Lawmakers
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/insurrection-colbert-producers-caught-police-invading-us-capitol-work-hours-aided-adam-schiff-stalk-harass-us-lawmakers/
On Thursday night several CBS employees who work for Colbert’s late-night show were arrested in the US Capitol, trespassing after hours, and HARASSING GOP lawmakers.
The US Capitol was closed at the time.
Shouldn't they be thrown in jail in solitary confinement? Maybe given a court hearing in a few months?
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Rep. Adam Schiff tells Dana Bash that he "has evidence" of Trump's involvement on January 6th, but he can't reveal it because he doesn't "want to get ahead of the hearing." pic.twitter.com/mAcVL6LW5R
— Virginia Kruta (@VAKruta) June 19, 2022
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2022/06/20/schiff-lying-on-cnn-n2608983
How many times is Schiff going to say he has evidence of X on Trump but never produces any it?
(https://i.imgflip.com/5jb3gk.jpg)
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BB is on a roll
:rofl:
Frustrated Capitol Gift Shop Lady Finally Puts Up Sign Saying ‘NO WE DO NOT SELL BUFFALO HAT SOUVENIRS’
https://babylonbee.com/news/frustrated-capitol-gift-shop-lady-finally-puts-up-big-sign-no-we-do-not-sell-buffalo-hat-souvenirs
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Nothing suspicious here at all
I haven't kept up with this "Fake Elector" business but I assume it's Jan 6 related
#BREAKING: FBI agents have served a search warrant on Nevada’s top GOP official as part of the investigation into the fake elector scheme, sources tell the @8NewsNow I-Team’s @gknapp. https://t.co/5I3gJr1Kxj
— David Charns (@davidcharns) June 23, 2022
‘Nothing Third World about what’s going on’: FBI serves search warrants on top GOP officials in Nevada
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/23/nothing-third-world-about-whats-going-on-fbi-serves-search-warrants-on-top-gop-officials-in-nevada/
Article from Jan
I-Team: Nevada Republicans sent National Archives fake electoral certificates saying Trump won election
https://www.8newsnow.com/i-team/i-team-nevada-republicans-sent-national-archives-fake-electoral-certificates-saying-trump-won-election/
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Cheney is begging Wyoming dems to switch parties and vote for her. ;/
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/06/23/nyt-report-on-what-rep-liz-cheneys-campaign-is-mailing-to-wy-dems-reeks-of-desperation/
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"Surprise hearing! You need to tune in for all the juicy details!"
It's not hard to tell the hearings are being run by a Hollywood producer.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/28/dan-rather-calls-the-suspense-behind-todays-surprise-january-6-witness-a-who-shot-j-r-moment/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0
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"Surprise hearing! You need to tune in for all the juicy details!"
It's not hard to tell the hearings are being run by a Hollywood producer.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/28/dan-rather-calls-the-suspense-behind-todays-surprise-january-6-witness-a-who-shot-j-r-moment/
I remember the anticipation over “Who shot J.R.?” It’s like tomorrow’s surprise witness at the January 6 hearings: “Who sabotaged American democracy?” (I mean we already know, but still, get the popcorn ready!) — Dan Rather (@DanRather) June 28, 2022
Democracy's saboteur was the CBS news anchor who used forged documents from a dead man to try and influence a national election.
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Apparently a witness isn't happy with what they said he said.
‘This is BIG’: Jan 6th Committee accused of withholding and misrepresenting testimony and critical evidence by KEY witness
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/28/this-is-big-jan-6th-committee-accused-of-withholding-and-misrepresenting-testimony-and-critical-evidence-by-key-witness/
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Michael Stenger, Senate security chief on Jan. 6, dies before hearing
https://nypost.com/2022/06/28/former-senate-sergeant-at-arms-michael-stenger-dies/
Michael Stenger, who resigned a day after pro-Trump rioters easily stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, died Monday morning, Politico reported.
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Cassidy Hutchinson testifies that she was told that as then-President Donald Trump was being driven back to the White House after the Jan. 6 rally that he demanded to be taken to the Capitol and tried to grab the steering wheel from a Secret Service agent.
"She was told that..."
If this is such an A-Team committee, why did they call her to the stand instead of the person who "told" her? We have government agents arresting grannies from all over the country for walking through the capitol, but they can't track down the fed.gov employee who "told her" so they could get first hand testimony?
And this is "historic" news?!?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/28/cbs-news-robert-costa-says-what-we-watched-at-todays-january-6-testimony-wasnt-a-bombshell-but-history/
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Michael Stenger, Senate security chief on Jan. 6, dies before hearing
https://nypost.com/2022/06/28/former-senate-sergeant-at-arms-michael-stenger-dies/
Damned convenient that.
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Perjury for sure. Show me exactly how any president in the last thirty years has had access to anything remotely close to the steering wheel.
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"She was told that..."
If this is such an A-Team committee, why did they call her to the stand instead of the person who "told" her? We have government agents arresting grannies from all over the country for walking through the capitol, but they can't track down the fed.gov employee who "told her" so they could get first hand testimony?
And this is "historic" news?!?
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/28/cbs-news-robert-costa-says-what-we-watched-at-todays-january-6-testimony-wasnt-a-bombshell-but-history/
First clue it's BS
CNN feels the need to puff it up
Cassidy Hutchinson's words pulsed with the power and electricity of history and truth. Talk about speaking truth to power. Shame on all those who were also there on Jan. 6 and have refused to share what they saw and heard with the committee and American people.
— David Zurawik (@davidzurawik) June 28, 2022
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/28/cnn-media-analyst-says-cassidy-hutchinsons-words-pulsed-with-the-power-and-electricity-of-truth/
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I'm not sure how hearsay testimony equals a bombshell revelation. Can someone explain how that works?
Oh, wait. Did Rep. Schiff bring this witness forward?
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How hearsay is being reported
Donald Trump knew supporters had weapons when he urged them to storm the Capitol to overturn the 2020 election, a former White House aide has said.
January 6 hearings: Trump urged armed supporters to storm Capitol - aide
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61971428
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How hearsay is being reported
January 6 hearings: Trump urged armed supporters to storm Capitol - aide
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61971428
And how many guns were confiscated on 06JAN? And where did the only shot fired on 06JAN come from?
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Strikes me as pretty damned incompetent, and that means that the best minds, the very best minds, were not consulted, as to how to run a coup attempt...
No takeover of the media (sigh...).
And... Where were the tanks and crew-served weapons?
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It appears that the secret service agent is prepared to testify, if the committee calls on him, that Trump never laid hands on him. Interesting that the guy that was there wants to testify, but the committee went with the dizzy broad who heard it second hand.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/06/28/source-tells-peter-alexander-that-secret-service-agent-suv-driver-prepared-to-testify-about-trumps-lunge/
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Real bummer about that agents untimely passing.
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Perjury for sure. Show me exactly how any president in the last thirty years has had access to anything remotely close to the steering wheel.
https://jalopnik.com/trump-tried-to-commandeer-his-own-presidential-limo-to-1849119732. Jalopnik reports it was an armored Suburban rather than the Beast, and the Suburban has no partition between passengers and the driver.
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https://jalopnik.com/trump-tried-to-commandeer-his-own-presidential-limo-to-1849119732. Jalopnik reports it was an armored Suburban rather than the Beast, and the Suburban has no partition between passengers and the driver.
I don’t care which vehicle it is (armored or regular). Nobody is going to easily wrest control of a vehicle from any driver, let alone a secret service agent, from the backseat. Or even from the front passenger seat. I mean, all the driver has to do is stomp on the brake. Short of killing said driver or forcing him out the door there’s not a lot a passenger can do to make the vehicle go somewhere very specifically against the driver’s will.
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More evidence coming out that this is another Christine Blasey Ford, via more people that were actually present. It seems that most everything she is testifying about is hearsay.
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/29/theres-another-major-discrepancy-with-cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-this-one-confirmed-by-eric-herschmann/
You can see her eyes scanning the remembered scene before she speaks
I'm pretty sure that's "shifty eyes", which we usually ascribe to liars.
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Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
JOURNALISTS, all day yesterday: Trump assaulted his Secret Service agents and grabbed the wheel of the presidential limo!!! Headline news. Smoking gun!!!!
SECRET SERVICE AGENTS: That never happened.
JOURNALISTS: That was never an important part of the testimony.
This sounds like what I suspect actually happened:
Peter Alexander
@PeterAlexander
A source close to the Secret Service says both men dispute Trump grabbed the steering wheel or assaulted an agent. They do not deny that Trump was irate and demanded they drive to the Capitol. (2/2)
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2022/06/29/secret-service-spox-says-agents-available-to-testify-under-oath-to-respond-to-cassidy-hutchinson-allegations/
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More possible holes in the Swiss cheese
BREAKING: Multiple sources including one who was at the WH on Jan 6 tell me Cipollone was not there in the am when Hutchinson testified she spoke with him. J6 Cmtes is aware of this discrepancy & are ignoring media inquiries about it. Seems she made up the entire conversation
— Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) June 30, 2022
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/30/ruh-roh-looks-like-another-part-of-cassidy-hutchinsons-testimony-may-have-been-totally-made-up-per-wh-sources-there-on-jan-6/
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
The film's producers have been tight-lipped about the plot but did confirm that Trump would grab the wheel from his limo driver and attempt to ram into the Capitol building. Reports also indicate there will be a scene where Trump hijacks a bus and tells the driver he has to drive over 50 miles per hour or it will explode.
Donald Trump To Star In 'Fast And Furious 10: Capitol Riot'
https://babylonbee.com/news/universal-pictures-announces-donald-trump-to-star-in-fast-and-furious-10-capitol-riot
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/62bccd635f03a62bccd635f03b.jpg)
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They got Trump now!
Star Witness Amber Heard To Testify In Next Jan. 6 Committee Hearing
https://babylonbee.com/news/star-witness-amber-heard-to-testify-in-next-jan-6-committee-hearing
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Sounds about right:
https://youtu.be/_YW41t13gUE
:rofl:
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Somebody just couldn't keep his mouth shut and he didn't like the response
Alec Baldwin threatens to find Twitter rando who thinks he did worse than choke a Secret Service agent
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/02/alec-baldwin-threatens-to-find-twitter-rando-who-thinks-he-did-worse-than-choke-a-secret-service-agent/
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Somebody just couldn't keep his mouth shut and he didn't like the response
Alec Baldwin threatens to find Twitter rando who thinks he did worse than choke a Secret Service agent
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/02/alec-baldwin-threatens-to-find-twitter-rando-who-thinks-he-did-worse-than-choke-a-secret-service-agent/
Ha ha - his lawyers must be loving him right now. :rofl:
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He didn't try to choke the driver he grabbed him by the.............
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Ha ha - his lawyers must be loving him right now. :rofl:
More billable hours.
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Well isn't this awkward
The January 6 committee’s key witness, Cassidy Hutchinson, called the committee “bs” in a text message obtained exclusively by the Daily Caller.
On Feb 1. Hutchinson sent a text to a conservative activist with connections to the First Amendment Fund, which is a group started by the American Conservative Union that helps Trump officials cover costs for Jan. 6 lawyers. Matt Schlapp said Hutchinson approached CPAC for help through the First Amendment Fund. Schlapp said he is happy they did not end up assisting her because she was relaying White House “hallway gossip as fact.”
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/07/04/awkward-cassidy-hutchinsons-leaked-text-messages-show-what-she-really-thought-of-the-january-6th-committee/
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"Out of touch" comes to mind:
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.' https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-22-rep-liz-cheney-secretary-alejandro/story?id=86127088
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"Out of touch" comes to mind:
No, it's Gas Lighting and propaganda. Stop ascribing to stupidity that which has been shown to be malevolence.
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An update from Ray Epps himself:
After months of watching from the shadows as public figures he once respected — Mr. Trump among them — tarred his name and destroyed his reputation, Mr. Epps decided that he wanted to answer that question for himself.
“I am at the center of this thing, and it’s the biggest farce that’s ever been,” he said. “It’s just not right. The American people are being led down a path. I think it should be criminal.”
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While he wants to clear his name, he is under no illusion that he will ever manage to divorce it fully from the lies.
“They’ll always be associated,” Mr. Epps said. “You can’t convince some people. There are extremists out there that you’ll never convince them that they’re wrong.”
He's right, and I don't think this interview will convince people either.
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No, it's Gas Lighting and propaganda. Stop ascribing to stupidity that which has been shown to be malevolence.
Either should get a politician voted out of office.
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Either should get a politician voted out of office.
Universal Voting makes that impossible because a majority of the people will believe whatever lie they're told and vote how they're trained, and then you still have the election fraud to contend with.
Our system is permanently broken/corrupted and there is no fixing it from the inside.
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Schiff for brains saying he's got Trump aaagain!
In other news the Coyote says his latest plan to catch the Roadrunner will definitely work this time.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/13/rep-adam-schiff-says-the-doj-has-more-than-enough-evidence-to-investigate-donald-trump/
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Universal Voting makes that impossible because a majority of the people will believe whatever lie they're told and vote how they're trained, and then you still have the election fraud to contend with.
Our system is permanently broken/corrupted and there is no fixing it from the inside.
Restricting voting to land owning male citizens sometimes doesn’t seem sooooo bad. Maybe making it net federal tax paying citizens instead would be reasonable. Keep the leeches from voting more money to themselves.
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Schiff for brains saying he's got Trump aaagain!
In other news the Coyote says his latest plan to catch the Roadrunner will definitely work this time.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/13/rep-adam-schiff-says-the-doj-has-more-than-enough-evidence-to-investigate-donald-trump/
Since when does the DOJ need evidence to investigate Trump?
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An update from Ray Epps himself:He's right, and I don't think this interview will convince people either.
Revolver responds to the NYT article on Epps (and points out several facts the Times conveniently glossed over)
https://www.revolver.news/2022/07/the-hidden-agenda-behind-new-york-times-desperate-ray-epps-puff-piece/
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This has a familiar stench to it
The Secret Service deleted text messages from Jan. 5 and Jan 6, 2021, that were requested by officials investigating the breach of the U.S. Capitol, the Department of Homeland Security inspector general's office said in a report this week.
Inspector General Joseph Cuffari said in a letter to the Congressional committees investigating the Jan. 6 riot that "many" messages were "erased as part of a device-replacement program" after his office had requested electronic communications from the Secret Service during their "evaluation of events at the Capitol on Jan. 6."
Jan. 6: Secret Service deleted texts requested by investigators, watchdog report says
The Secret Service denied the claim that it deleted text messages, saying some records had been lost during a device migration
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-secret-service-deleted-texts-requested-investigtors-watchdog-report
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The Colbert Nine have had all charges dropped. In the meantime, grandmas are still going to jail for walking through an open door.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/stephen-colbert-late-show-staffers-lied-credentials-arrest-house
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It's another insurrection!
Yikes. Just saw this gang walking around the Capitol and had a wave of #Jan6 anxiety.
https://twitter.com/ReutersZengerle/status/1549766621333524482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1549779504935145475%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fdougp-3137%2F2022%2F07%2F20%2Fthis-scene-at-the-us-capitol-made-a-congressional-reporter-feel-a-wave-of-jan6-anxiety%2F
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It's another insurrection!
There's nothing scarier to me than a white female octogenarian walking down the sidewalk with a smile and holding an American Flag. Why was she not taken down by SWAT? How can we let this stand?
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There's nothing scarier to me than a white female octogenarian walking down the sidewalk with a smile and holding an American Flag. Why was she not taken down by SWAT? How can we let this stand?
AOC is reporting she is hiding under her desk because the octogenarian tried to date her.
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The boy who cried Trump
Jonathan Turley: Adam Schiff promises that what ‘you will see on Thursday will be significant’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/20/jonathan-turley-adam-schiff-promises-that-what-you-will-see-on-thursday-will-be-significant/
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They'll be back
The House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol plans to hold more public hearings in September, the panel's chairman, Rep. Bennie Thompson, says during tonight's opening remarks.
"We continue to receive new information every day." pic.twitter.com/Or77YeZwu4
— CBS News (@CBSNews) July 22, 2022
Season 2: Chairman Bennie Thompson says there will be more January 6 committee hearings in September
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/21/season-2-chairman-bennie-thompson-says-there-will-be-more-january-6-committee-hearings-in-september/
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Yeah, they're going there
During an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) confirmed the January 6 Committee’s next target: Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s wife.
'I Hope It Doesn't Get To That': Cheney Confirms Who The J6 Committee May Subpoena Next
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/07/25/j6-committee-going-after-ginni-thomas-n2610746
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During an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) confirmed the January 6 Committee’s next target: Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas’s wife.
Wow, talk about poking the bear.
Brad
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Someone has been sucking on Hunter's crack pipe
Andrea Mitchell
@mitchellreports
.@POTUS says Trump watched in the comfort of his private dining room "while brave law enforcement officers were subjected to the medieval hell for 3 hours dripping in blood surrounded by carnage face to face with crazed mob that believed the lies of the defeated President"
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/25/lives-were-lost-president-biden-says-trump-did-nothing-while-police-were-subjected-to-medieval-hell-dripping-in-blood-surrounded-by-carnage/
Yeah.....
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This just in
AOC releases footage of herself while handcuffed bravely defending the capital building from the medieval MAGA horde saving countless millions of women of color.
https://youtu.be/8TESlQaSW7I?t=238
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This just in
AOC releases footage of herself bravely defending the capital building from the medieval MAGA horde saving countless millions, while handcuffed
https://youtu.be/8TESlQaSW7I?t=238
Sadly, that horse's ass Joss Whedon would approve of AOC=River.
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FBI Agent Who Covered For Hunter Biden is Russia Collusion Hoaxer – Per Sen. Grassley – The DOJ and FBI Are “Institutionally Corrupted to Their Very Core”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/07/fbi-agent-covered-hunter-biden-russia-collusion-hoaxer-per-sen-grassley-doj-fbi-institutionally-corrupted-core/
This is just completely unbelievable. Auten, the *same* crooked FBI analyst who:
-"vetted" the Carter Page warrant
-drafted the phony ICA
-concealed that Danchenko disavowed Steele
-was involved in framing Gen Flynn
also assessed that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation.
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yep
Scott Adams sums up all of the January 6 committee hearings to date in five steps
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/07/26/scott-adams-sums-up-all-of-the-january-6-committee-hearings-to-date-in-five-steps/
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Since the Jan 6 show trial isn't producing the desired results lets start a criminal investigation under the DOJ.
Article is more of the same Trump did this Trump did that because someone told someone who told someone who overheard someone we've been seeing in the Schiff Show.
My guess is they'll keep dragging this out for at least a couple of years to the pres election because correct me if I'm wrong someone can't run if they're under criminal investigation right?
Carol Leonnig
@CarolLeonnig
BREAKING Tonight - DOJ is investigating Donald J. Trump's actions and role in an effort to overturn the 2020 election results. w greats @DevlinBarrett
@jdawsey1
@hsu_spencer
https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/1552068856465719296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1552068856465719296%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fgregp-3534%2F2022%2F07%2F27%2Fwapo-reports-trump-under-doj-criminal-investigation-over-2020-election%2F
Justice Dept. investigating Trump’s actions in Jan. 6 criminal probe
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/07/26/trump-justice-investigation-january-6/
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Think they'll somehow figure out a way drag DeSantis into this?
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Think they'll somehow figure out a way drag DeSantis into this?
Of course.
They will try to implicate everyone who they see as a future threat.
The scary part is these people would be in charge with little opposition if Trump had not been elected. 3 more looney leftist judges instead of the ones we got that would back them up. Scary thought.
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I don’t think there’s any legal prohibition on someone under indictment running for POTUS. Under normal circumstances that would be a political disqualification but we are not in normal circumstances. The way things are it might actually fire up Trump’s base even more.
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I don’t think there’s any legal prohibition on someone under indictment running for POTUS. Under normal circumstances that would be a political disqualification but we are not in normal circumstances. The way things are it might actually fire up Trump’s base even more.
I am not Trump's base. I was at my two jobs on Jan 6. They keep up with the FA part of political prisoners and show trials they are going to get to the FO part of a real insurrection. I will attend that one.
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Unsurprisingly, outside of the Jackson Hole area, Liz Cheney doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of reelection, predominately because of her 06JAN witch hunt role.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/07/31/rep-liz-cheneys-reelection-campaign-will-not-be-encouraged-by-cnns-interviews-with-wyoming-voters/
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She’s probably already got her lobbying/consulting gig lined up. She’ll get plenty rich.
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MSNBC
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Heh, now she has her dad doing ads for her. I get the "father helping daughter" thing, but it's funny to hear Dick Cheney claim that nobody is a greater threat to America than Trump, given that I'm old enough to remember when people said that nobody was a greater threat to America than Dick Cheney.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/08/04/liz-cheneys-campaign-brings-in-dick-cheney-for-an-ad-warning-about-grave-threat-to-the-republic-donald-trump/
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Mostly the same people at that.
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Thanks for the Iraq war, Cheney.
I remember when the left thought you were Satan. ;/
Are you mad because Trump managed to go through his whole term of office without starting a new pointless war?
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Thanks for the Iraq war, Cheney.
I remember when the left thought you were Satan. ;/
Are you mad because Trump managed to go through his whole term of office without starting a new pointless war?
And actually mediated a peace treaty between jews and muslims in the middle east. That's only been a presidential talking point since the Suez Crisis.
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Trump hasn’t shot anyone yet.
The Bush/Cheney administration was responsible for a lot of government overreach and actual threats to the Republic. Dept of Homeland Security and Patriot Act just to name two. The same Patriot Act that was used to violate the rights of many in the Trump administration and help cause the false narratives against Trump.
Why do all of these Republicans forget how the Media treated them. McCain, Romney, Bush, Cheney, Reagan, etc. were all accused of the same crap the Media painted Trump with. You would think they would say to themselves if the Media falsely accused me of this stuff then maybe I should take a step back on believing the stuff they accused Trump of.
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Why do all of these Republicans forget how the Media treated them. McCain, Romney, Bush, Cheney, Reagan, etc. were all accused of the same crap the Media painted Trump with. You would think they would say to themselves if the Media falsely accused me of this stuff then maybe I should take a step back on believing the stuff they accused Trump of.
I can't find it now, but I read a really interesting article the other day related to this, talking about the "political dynasties" - both R and D - that have caused some Rs to hate Trump as much as Ds do. Jeb Bush was supposed to be President. Or Hillary Clinton. Either would have been okay with the "dynasty people".
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Maybe Hunter will run next.
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Maybe Hunter will run next.
Has less baggage than many of them.
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An FBI whistleblower is coming forward regarding the full on raids at the homes of misdemeanor "trespassers".
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/09/23/raids-for-misdemeanors-julie-kellys-thread-on-fbi-whistleblower-exposing-rot-and-corruption-at-fbi-around-j6ers-a-must-read/
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This isn't fishy at all:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/10/14/not-normal-nancy-pelosi-just-happened-to-be-micd-up-with-a-camera-crew-on-jan-6-and-wtf-is-that-ray-epps-watch/
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Pelosi having a CNN camera crew following her around as CNN’s candidate was certified isn’t surprising.
Still not sure what to think about Epps.
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Still not sure what to think about Epps.
(https://www.revolver.news/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2021.12.04-06.13-revolvernews-61abafd27c90b.jpg)
His Lawyer worked for the FBI. To the D's, he's the third rail in the J6 hearings.
Glowie.
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Glowie.
Either that, or he is turning evidence against other people.
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Cheney and Kinziger were rising stars "purged" by Trump. ;/
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/17/daily-beast-donald-trump-destroyed-an-entire-generation-of-conservative-rising-stars-like-liz-cheney/
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"9/11 is nothing compared to January 6th"
-Peter Strzok
https://twitter.com/i/status/1582108540332019712
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"9/11 is nothing compared to January 6th"
-Peter Strzok
https://twitter.com/i/status/1582108540332019712
They're trying so hard to have their version of the Reichstag fire
On February 27, 1933, the German parliament (Reichstag) building burned down. The Nazi leadership and its coalition partners used the fire to claim that Communists were planning a violent uprising. They claimed that emergency legislation was needed to prevent this. The resulting act, commonly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, abolished a number of constitutional protections and paved the way for Nazi dictatorship.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-reichstag-fire
The parallels in rhetoric should alarm you
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They've subpoenaed Trump. When he doesn't show up, will they send two dozen guys in battle rattle to his house to arrest him? If they did arrest him (it would be the first time a former president was arrested AFAIK), I can't help but think that it might be what flips the switch. Again, not because it's Trump, but because Trump has become the Everyman that "they" push around.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/21/another-midterm-hail-mary-january-6th-commission-subpoenas-donald-trump/
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They've subpoenaed Trump. When he doesn't show up, will they send two dozen guys in battle rattle to his house to arrest him? If they did arrest him (it would be the first time a former president was arrested AFAIK), I can't help but think that it might be what flips the switch. Again, not because it's Trump, but because Trump has become the Everyman that "they" push around.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/10/21/another-midterm-hail-mary-january-6th-commission-subpoenas-donald-trump/
He has until 4 days before election to produce documents and after election to appear. Two of those four days are weekend. Me as Trump would tell them to pound sand. Unprecedented is the right word because we need some lines on how much sway one branch can hold over another. They might raid him because post election they have no cover for their executive branch.
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I think he should demand it be a televised hearing.
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I think he should demand it be a televised hearing.
They put on a time delay and every time he starts making a point they'll cut to one of their talking heads who will tell you what Trump is "actually" saying.
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Nancy Pelosi, Hero of the Republic
Speaker Pelosi protected the lives of EVERY one in the Capitol on Jan. 6, Republican & Dem, up to & including the VP
Then her good judgment that day saved our Republic
The ongoing hate & sneering disrespect from people she PROTECTED that day is sickening.
As is today’s attack. https://t.co/gwlpPmDxJC
— David Pepper (@DavidPepper) October 28, 2022
Author claims Nancy Pelosi’s good judgment on January 6 saved our republic
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/10/29/author-claims-nancy-pelosis-good-judgment-on-january-6-saved-our-republic/
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/11/10/bombshell-about-those-fbi-informants-concerning-jan-6-n657255
Turns out that one of the top people in the Oathkeepers — their vice president — was an FBI informant, according to the NY Times.
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/11/10/bombshell-about-those-fbi-informants-concerning-jan-6-n657255
I guess this kinda sums it up:
So to recap, the intel community knew extremists planned to attack on J6, FBI had embeds with their plans, Trump wanted more security, Pelosi did nothing to up it, D.C. mayor fought it, CP opened doors for them & Trump supporters got framed as 'insurrectionists.' Any questions?
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/15/chris-wray-refuses-to-answer-if-fbi-agents-were-dressed-as-trump-supporters-inside-capitol-on-j6/
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Turkey Denied Presidential Pardon After Photos Emerge Of It Attending January 6
https://babylonbee.com/news/turkey-denied-presidential-pardon-after-photos-emerge-of-it-attending-jan-6-riot
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So the geofence warrants used for 06JAN were the largest data request the FBI ever did (and google hopped right on that). Data on nearly 6000 devices was handed to the FBI. They sound disappointed that "only" 900 arrests have been made so far. It's nearly 2023, for those keeping track.
The filing suggests that dozens of phones that were in airplane mode during the riot, or otherwise out of cell service, were caught up in the trawl. Nor could users erase their digital trails later. In fact, 37 people who attempted to delete their location data following the attacks were singled out by the FBI for greater scrutiny.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/28/fbi-demanded-location-data-for-close-to-6000-phones-around-capitol-on-january-6-and-google-said-sure/
Again, I'm really hoping for ElonPhones to be a thing. All he needs to do is provide me a mapping/nav app on par with google without the big brother, and I'm there. Everything else on my google account is already done equally well or better elsewhere.
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If the Trump admin had requested that data Google would have flipped them off, the MSM would be screaming bloody murder, and the dems would be calling for an investigation and impeachment.
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So the geofence warrants used for 06JAN were the largest data request the FBI ever did (and google hopped right on that). Data on nearly 6000 devices was handed to the FBI. They sound disappointed that "only" 900 arrests have been made so far. It's nearly 2023, for those keeping track.
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2022/11/28/fbi-demanded-location-data-for-close-to-6000-phones-around-capitol-on-january-6-and-google-said-sure/
Again, I'm really hoping for ElonPhones to be a thing. All he needs to do is provide me a mapping/nav app on par with google without the big brother, and I'm there. Everything else on my google account is already done equally well or better elsewhere.
I'm almost certain he will at this point. A Starlink sat phone that keeps its datalink in house (phone-sat-sat-phone) would allow you to completely bypass all the legacy internet protocol hardware and their built in data surveillance for the NSA, FBI etc.
It will be several significant steps back towards true privacy in personal communications.
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Honestly, if you can’t disable the GPS tracking on your phone, you have to be a fool to even take it with you to any right wing political event.
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Honestly, if you can’t disable the GPS tracking on your phone, you have to be a fool to even take it with you to any right wing political event.
Without a removable battery or a GOOD (as in, you tested it) faraday cage, you're not turning off location tracking on your phone. Not anymore.
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Wow. If this is all factual, pretty damning, and extra shame on the 06JAN committee for refusing to hear him and examine his video footage:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/01/06/journo-shares-eye-opening-thread-about-what-he-witnessed-firsthand-on-j6-with-ashli-babbitt-footage/
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Wow. If this is all factual, pretty damning, and extra shame on the 06JAN committee for refusing to hear him and examine his video footage:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/01/06/journo-shares-eye-opening-thread-about-what-he-witnessed-firsthand-on-j6-with-ashli-babbitt-footage/
Not that I want to paraphrase a certain despicable individual, but at this point, what difference does it make? Even if everything this journalist says is factual, nothing will be done to bring justice to those that deserve it.
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Not that I want to paraphrase a certain despicable individual, but at this point, what difference does it make? Even if everything this journalist says is factual, nothing will be done to bring justice to those that deserve it.
I can't argue that. Just like with covid, the truth came out, but apparently too late for anyone to care or for any consequences. I'm still an extremist, and Ashli Babbitt is still dead.
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It was an "accident"
When the House Jan. 6 committee released hundreds of documents from its investigation online at the end of the year, it inadvertently made public nearly 2,000 Social Security numbers belonging to high profile individuals who visited the White House in December 2020, according to a report.
While many Social Security numbers in the logs were redacted, the Post reported that around 1,900 of them were not. The Government Publishing Office (GPO), which was responsible for publishing the file, does not appear to have notified any of the individuals whose private information was released, the report said.
Jan. 6 committee releases Social Security numbers of Trump officials and allies: report
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-committee-releases-social-security-numbers-trump-officials-allies-report
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I was unaware of this until today. One of the protestors was a doctor, and he attempted to treat Ashli Babbitt after she was shot. The cops pulled him away and wouldn't let him treat her. Today, two years later, he was arrested for protesting on 06JAN.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/01/31/julie-kelly-calls-vengeful-inhumane-doj-out-for-arresting-doctor-who-tried-to-treat-ashli-babbitt/
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I was unaware of this until today. One of the protestors was a doctor, and he attempted to treat Ashli Babbitt after she was shot. The cops pulled him away and wouldn't let him treat her. Today, two years later, he was arrested for protesting on 06JAN.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/01/31/julie-kelly-calls-vengeful-inhumane-doj-out-for-arresting-doctor-who-tried-to-treat-ashli-babbitt/
Democracy is saved.
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This should be fun:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/02/20/dems-will-not-be-thrilled-that-kevin-mccarthy-gave-tucker-carlson-over-40000-hours-of-j6-footage/
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[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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This should be fun:
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/02/20/dems-will-not-be-thrilled-that-kevin-mccarthy-gave-tucker-carlson-over-40000-hours-of-j6-footage/
Better late than never, I suppose. Though I doubt it will do any good for those folks still languishing in DC jails without charges at this point.
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Better late than never, I suppose. Though I doubt it will do any good for those folks still languishing in DC jails without charges at this point.
Or those serving years-long sentences for conviction on a first-offense misdemeanor charge.
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[popcorn]
During January 6 Hearing, Schiff Doctored Text Messages Between Mark Meadows And Rep. Jim Jordan https://t.co/uSKVmSph81
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 21, 2023
From The Federalist:
Oops, he did it again. After leaking fake Donald Trump, Jr. emails, fabricating the transcript of a 2019 phone call between former President Donald Trump and Ukraine’s president, and lying about his interactions with the so-called whistleblower behind House Democrats’ first impeachment of Trump, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is now running the same con against a fellow lawmaker. During a hearing Monday night on the riot at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Adam Schiff claimed to have proof that a member of Congress texted former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to instruct former Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.
Not only did Schiff misrepresent the substance of the text message and its source, he even doctored original text messages, which were obtained and reviewed by The Federalist in their entirety.
Doctored texts?! No WONDER Adam Schiff is nervous about J6 footage (he SHOULD BE)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/02/21/doctored-texts-no-wonder-adam-schiff-is-nervous-about-j6-footage-he-should-be/
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At what point do such actions qualify as criminal? Fraud seems appropriate. It’s more civil than criminal but defamation/slander/libel for sure would be easy, even with needing to prove “actual malice” when a public figure is the target.
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At what point do such actions qualify as criminal? Fraud seems appropriate. It’s more civil than criminal but defamation/slander/libel for sure would be easy, even with needing to prove “actual malice” when a public figure is the target.
He's a democrat so......never?
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He's a democrat so......never?
We need that meteor…
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51949329859_29b5b2cc6f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n9zTT2)
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(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51949329859_29b5b2cc6f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2n9zTT2)
These were probably too small.
Wow! Asteroid Sar2667's Earth impact seen over France and Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MgZvc1s6kY
Watch: Asteroid explodes above England after entering Earth's atmosphere
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk2g9pRwOBU
Asteroid explodes over English Channel after rare early detection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eJq6DcIEzM
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Anything interesting in the new footage?
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Anything interesting in the new footage?
Must be something in it they don't want us to see
Journalist Dana @Milbank: Americans shouldn’t be able to see 1/6 footage at all
"This doesn't belong in the public domain" pic.twitter.com/BfuwOwjVNQ
— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) February 26, 2023
WaPo’s Dana Milbank sure seems worried about Tucker Carlson getting J6 footage
https://twitchy.com/mikel-313136/2023/02/27/wapos-dana-milbank-sure-seems-worried-about-tucker-carlson-getting-j6-footage/
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I see they got started early on the "deceptively edited" narrative.
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I see they got started early on the "deceptively edited" narrative.
I'm hoping that they release the raw footage to anyone, so that editing can be checked regardless of who is doing the editing.
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I wonder if that video they released early last year will be included. The one that showed that one officer leading masked "protestors" up stairs and such.
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Buffalo man calmly hanging out with friendly cops in the capitol building:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1632913206141386752
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Tucker Carlson had another segment of videos on his show this eve. Even got Schumer and McConnell all spun up on releasing the videos…..lmao
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At this point I firmly believe that ALL J6 protesters that weren’t violent should get a full and complete pardon, and even the violent ones should get commutations of their sentences.
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The left is absolutely going bonkers over this release video business. [popcorn]
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The left is absolutely going bonkers over this release video business. [popcorn]
I'm cracking up (though I should be angry) that they're gaslighting the footage. Claims that raw, unedited footage is "manipulating" the video evidence. Because you know, with our betters not editing the videos to what they feel is appropriate for us to see is manipulation. Stupid public who think they can make up their own mind based on untouched footage. The nerve of us.
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The ever brilliant Whoopi is comparing it to 1984
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It is like 1984, but not in the way they think.
The truth is a lie. Lies are the truth. Unedited video is a lie. Selectively edited videos are the truth.
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At this point I firmly believe that ALL J6 protesters that weren’t violent should get a full and complete pardon, and even the violent ones should get commutations of their sentences.
Yeah. And the police who started the violence by firing tear gas into peaceful crowds should be charged.
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Yeah. And the police who started the violence by firing tear gas into peaceful crowds should be charged.
We should probably also look at the police beating videos that are coming out now. Whole cities rioted when those types of beatings took place elsewhere against a different demographic.
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Listen to the whole thing, but it gets VERY interesting at 0:50. The J6 committee's researchers left bookmarks throughout the video footage of what they watched, which included information refuting the edited footage that the committee released to the public.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1633538552524050432
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2023/03/08/tucker-carlson-tells-glenn-beck-how-he-discovered-j6-committee-members-were-being-dishonest/
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I recall that in a libel/slander trial during pre-Revolution times in the American Colonies, truth was no defense - in fact telling the truth about bad actions of Crown officials was worse than lying, since truthfully pointing out their bad acts would diminish them in the eyes of the public.
Seems like history is repeating itself - I keep picturing Schumer in a powdered wig and speaking with a British accent whilst wearing a red coat . . .
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At this point I firmly believe that ALL J6 protesters that weren’t violent should get a full and complete pardon, and even the violent ones should get commutations of their sentences.
Not to mention massive pay-outs for the pre-trial detentions.
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Not to mention massive pay-outs for the ongoing and bail-denied pre-trial detentions.
Fixed it for you.
Brad
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The committee "never had access to the video". ;/ ;/ ;/
Sounds like they'll likely be throwing interns under the bus. I actually wouldn't be surprised if their 20-something interns and aides did manipulate the video. As long as the manipulation fit the J6 committee narrative, I'm sure the members didn't question any info they were given.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/09/let-the-backpedaling-begin-j6-committee-chair-thompson-says-they-never-had-access-to-j6-video/
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White House Claims Jan 6 Tapes Are Russian Disinformation
https://babylonbee.com/news/intelligence-community-claims-january-6th-tapes-are-russian-misinformation
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White House Claims Jan 6 Tapes Are Russian Disinformation
https://babylonbee.com/news/intelligence-community-claims-january-6th-tapes-are-russian-misinformation
It’s bad when you have to check the link because you want it to be satire but can’t be certain it isn’t real.
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McCarthy is releasing all 06JAN video to the public. The committee might be getting a little nervous right now.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mccarthy-agrees-to-full-public-release-of-jan-6-tapes_5112104.html
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It’s bad when you have to check the link because you want it to be satire but can’t be certain it isn’t real.
Especially when stuff like this actually comes out of the WH
Biden:
"MAGA Republicans are calling for defunding the police departments." pic.twitter.com/GRXiLuufzM
— Citizen Free Press (@CitizenFreePres) March 9, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/03/10/dood-wat-biden-dragged-for-latest-lie-about-maga-republicans-thats-a-humdinger-even-for-him/
They really are making it hard to tell sometimes
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I'm glad Carlson got the tapes first, and I hope McCarthy makes them available to the defense attorneys before he actually releases them to the public at large. Vichy got to control the narrative for 2 years. It's only fair that the Americans get a chance to return the favor for a while.
Once Big Media gets the tapes, they'll just use them to spread more lies.
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I'm glad Carlson got the tapes first, and I hope McCarthy makes them available to the defense attorneys before he actually releases them to the public at large. Vichy got to control the narrative for 2 years. It's only fair that the Americans get a chance to return the favor for a while.
Once Big Media gets the tapes, they'll just use them to spread more lies.
I just saw another story that the FBI had the tapes Carlson showed of the Shaman calmly walking around with cops, and they didn't turn them over to the defense during his trial. That should be interesting.
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I just saw another story that the FBI had the tapes Carlson showed of the Shaman calmly walking around with cops, and they didn't turn them over to the defense during his trial. That should be interesting.
If true that should result in immediate vacating of the conviction and dismissal of all charges with prejudice. It won’t, but that’s because rule of law is dead.
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If true that should result in immediate vacating of the conviction and dismissal of all charges with prejudice. It won’t, but that’s because rule of law is dead.
And now there's a follow up story that the FBI altered evidence in the Proud Boys trial.
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Backhoe to dig a big trench is needed for the DOJ.
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Backhoe to dig a big trench is needed for the DOJ.
I would be happy if they just had to go through the same bullshit of no-bail detention for months to more than a year, a criminal record, and jail time for the equivalent of jaywalking. There were some protestors that damaged stuff, and they should pay for that. But as we see more and more, the vast, vast majority were people that should have nothing happen to them, or at most receive like a $100 trespassing citation. And that's if you want to accept the argument that the building does not belong to the people.
I only hope there are a lot of big lawsuits.
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The way THE LEGACY MEDIA is having the vapors about ACTUAL INFORMATION BEING MADE PUBLIC should be very eye-opening to the general population - when was the last time you remember reporters and anchors actually saying information should be kept from the public?
I think they see their narrative and what shreds remain of their credibility evaporating.
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I just saw another story that the FBI had the tapes Carlson showed of the Shaman calmly walking around with cops, and they didn't turn them over to the defense during his trial. That should be interesting.
Well, somebody had it. I don't think it was ever a secret that surveillance video existed.
The kind of thing that could have been a national news story in 2021, if Big Media cared about that kind of thing. Ya know, that thing they talk about when a Republican's in the White House. I think they call it, "speaking truth to power."
The whole idea that the tapes could expose sensitive info about Congressional security - this is way too important for that to be a good excuse. They can go ahead and reconfigure all their secret safe rooms (on their dime) if they want to. There are much bigger issues at stake right now.
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Anyone that thinks positive actions will be taken by this Republican congress as a result of their investigations is very sadly naive. Congress is where good investigations go to die.
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Anyone that thinks positive actions will be taken by this Republican congress as a result of their investigations is very sadly naive. Congress is where good investigations go to die.
Are you saying the current majority has done nothing positive at all, to date? Because that's not what we've seen.
I know the constant betrayal by our leaders has been a traumatic experience, but you really shouldn't let it get inside your head like that. Open yourself up to accepting what little good that comes along.
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Are you saying the current majority has done nothing positive at all, to date? Because that's not what we've seen.
I know the constant betrayal by our leaders has been a traumatic experience, but you really shouldn't let it get inside your head like that. Open yourself up to accepting what little good that comes along.
I'm talking about people being criminally referred to the DoJ by the Republican controlled Congress at the end of any of their current or announced future investigations. It hasn't happened in living memory, and it will not happen during the next two years that the Republicans control the House.
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I'm talking about people being criminally referred to the DoJ by the Republican controlled Congress at the end of any of their current or announced future investigations. It hasn't happened in living memory, and it will not happen during the next two years that the Republicans control the House.
Donald Trump is still a free man, but that doesn't mean the constant lawfare had no positive results for the Democratic Party.
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Tucker Proves That The January 6th Kerfuffle Was Merely A Ruckus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbgrh38xfGM
Andrew Klavan has a way with words. An entertaining 4 minutes if you can spare them.
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I heard this was trending a bit.
Jan 6 Prison choir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhXDz_ZTMfQ
J6 Political Prisoners Praying and Singing National Anthem inside DC Jail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrPfkE0ou6c
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All this new info is not stopping them from continuing to arrest people
Indiana couple arrested for alleged role in Capitol riot
https://www.wdrb.com/news/indiana-couple-arrested-for-alleged-role-in-capitol-riot/article_9d78b006-c3e4-11ed-85f4-f794504a7009.html
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All this new info is not stopping them from continuing to arrest people
Indiana couple arrested for alleged role in Capitol riot
https://www.wdrb.com/news/indiana-couple-arrested-for-alleged-role-in-capitol-riot/article_9d78b006-c3e4-11ed-85f4-f794504a7009.html
Is there a statute of limitations for trespassing or parading or whatever the *expletive deleted*ck they’re charging people with?
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Is there a statute of limitations for trespassing or parading or whatever the *expletive deleted*ck they’re charging people with?
The Indiana couple in that article got felony rioting charges. The Fed Statute of limitations for felonies is generally 5 years.
https://www.goldmanwetzel.com/federal-crimes-florida/#:~:text=Most%20federal%20crimes%20have%20a,years%20to%20prosecute%20the%20case.
I thought some folks were catching DC charges. There it's 6 years for felonies or 3 years for misdemeanors unless they go for one of the named felonies. https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/sections/23-113
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Babylon Bee
Hillary Clinton Posts Condolences For Tucker Carlson's Suicide This Coming Tuesday
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-clinton-posts-condolences-for-tucker-carlsons-suicide-this-coming-tuesday
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They really did release him but that doesn't stop the Babylon Bee from having a little fun with the story.
Buffalo Guy Tagged And Released Back Into Wild
https://babylonbee.com/news/buffalo-guy-tagged-and-released-back-into-wild
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Be funnier if it read, Tagged, Neutered, and Released Back to the Wild.
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After spending 11 bail denied months in solitary before he was even sentenced, and then another 16 months based on false and incomplete evidence, I hope the shaman makes a bundle on his lawsuit.
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Proud Boys found guilty
https://apnews.com/article/jan-6-enrique-tarrio-seditious-conspiracy-trial-f8738f17552cda21eef6d89504da2a0e
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Bank of America gave a list to the FBI of anyone who used BofA credit/debit cards in the DC area between Jan 5-7th, 2021 – regardless of whether they participated in the events of Jan. 6th. pic.twitter.com/C0zBA1AGmy
— Rep. Dan Bishop (@RepDanBishop) May 18, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/05/18/bank-of-america-gave-a-list-to-the-fbi-of-people-who-used-their-cards-in-dc-around-january-6/
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Watched the DC FBI whistleblower hearing today. The Democratic lady that spoke after Jordan was a total a*sshat.
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Watched the DC FBI whistleblower hearing today. The Democratic lady that spoke after Jordan was a total a*sshat.
Was that purple haired Sanchez from California. I like how she got called out on using the wrong Twitter account as evidence but went ahead like it was the FBI guy's account anyway.
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No some dimwit from NH or something like that. I did see the purple haired people eater question the guy and he kept saying it wasn’t him.
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852
18 years... enjoy it jackass
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852
18 years... enjoy it jackass
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I'm rooting for him to win big in the lawsuit.
Rhodes took the stand in his case, saying at trial that the other members of the Oath Keepers were "stupid" to storm the Capitol and that he disagreed with those who went inside; Rhodes did not enter the building. “I had no idea that any Oath Keeper was even thinking about going inside or would go inside,” Rhodes said.
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Still making arrests
Another Louisville man is facing federal charges more than two years after the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.
The U.S. Department of Justice announced on Thursday the arrest of 47-year-old Daniel Edwin Wilson.
Court document contain screenshots from surveillance footage that investigators said show Wilson outside and inside the Capitol.
https://www.wlky.com/article/louisville-daniel-wilson-january-6-capitol-attack-arrest/44007513
And they found firearms in his house! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/oath-keepers-founder-sentenced-18-years-jan-6-seditious-conspiracy-cas-rcna85852
18 years... enjoy it jackass
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Always good to know who is supporting the current pogrom, thanks.
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Probably worth pointing out here that Jefferson Davis was not charged with Sedition despite leading a whole ass rebellion. The idea that these rioters were actually conspring to overthrow the government is retarded.
Treating it as so in the courts while playing favorites with rioters on your own side, rioters that actually set government buildings on fire, is opening a very raw and nasty wound between the more extreme tribes of this country.
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opening a very raw and nasty wound between the more extreme tribes of this country.
I suspect that such a result is a desired reaction.
I also believe that it will tend to draw more right wing types closer to the fringe.
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I suspect that such a result is a desired reaction.
I also believe that it will tend to draw more right wing types closer to the fringe.
As my favorite YouTube pastor says, “don’t take the bait.” Make them fire on Ft Sumter.
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Treating it as so in the courts while playing favorites with rioters on your own side, rioters that actually set government buildings on fire, is opening a very raw and nasty wound between the more extreme tribes of this country.
Dead on.
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Always good to know who is supporting the current pogrom, thanks.
Just because I don't support a fringe cause/group/nutjob, doesn't mean I support the other side.
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Just because I don't support a fringe cause/group/nutjob, doesn't mean I support the other side.
If you're happy about somebody getting 18 years in prison for what you consider unpopular or offensive language, then you kinda do support the other side.
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If you're happy about somebody getting 18 years in prison for what you consider unpopular or offensive language, then you kinda do support the other side.
No "kinda" about it.
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If you're happy about somebody getting 18 years in prison for what you consider unpopular or offensive language, then you kinda do support the other side.
It was a jury trial, if was just an unpopular opinion, at least one juror could of been persuaded by Rhodes legal representation.
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It was a jury trial, if was just an unpopular opinion, at least one juror could of been persuaded by Rhodes legal representation.
A jury in Washington, D.C., convicted Stewart Rhodes
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It was a jury trial, if was just an unpopular opinion, at least one juror could of been persuaded by Rhodes legal representation.
juries can be idiots bro, 18 yrs in prison is longer than many get for murder.
come on man
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Any juror in DC knows damn well that not voting to convict any Proud Boy, Oath Keeper, or any J6 defendant will result in total social parish status. And likely unemployment.
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Any juror in DC knows damn well that not voting to convict any Proud Boy, Oath Keeper, or any J6 defendant will result in total social parish status. And likely unemployment.
Quoted for truth.
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Okay, so what did Rhodes actually do?
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Okay, so what did Rhodes actually do?
Seditious conspiracy is the main charge he was found guilty of. He was also found guilty of obstruction of an official proceeding and tampering with documents and proceedings.
Other members/leaders of the Oath Keepers also found guilty of various charges. I think there is still a trial for a few more.
This will also allow for future charges against other groups too, such as ANTIFA and other leftist terrorist groups too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seditious_conspiracy
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This will also allow for future charges against other groups too, such as ANTIFA and other leftist terrorist groups too.
:rofl:
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Okay, so what did Rhodes actually do?
Hard to say. Doing a Google search just now, I got four pages of MSM, Daily Beast, Vox, Salon, et al. The closest right leaning link I found was a NOV22 article from Cato Institute stating what his conviction was (sedition).
Wiki has this to say:
Stewart Rhodes. Elmer Stewart Rhodes III (born 1966) is a disbarred American lawyer, convicted felon, domestic terrorist, [3] and the founder of Oath Keepers, [4] an American far-right and alt-right anti-government militia.
The best I can see, trying to sift through the biased sources, is that he organized one of the protest groups, bought a bunch of guns beforehand, which was widely mentioned in articles, but brought none of the to the protest (not mentioned in articles). He was on Capitol grounds, but never in the building. He "obstructed official proceedings". After the protest, he was apparently recorded saying that he regretted not having people show up armed, and something about hanging Nancy Pelosi from a lamp post.
The most I could see out of this would be 18 months, not 18 years. Apparently because a judge declared him a terrorist, harsher punishments were made available for what otherwise would be misdemeanor trespassing (there are hundreds of incidents yearly involving protestors "obstructing official proceedings" in state capitols all over the country). Nobody got 18 years for it. He didn't even destroy any property from what I read, so they couldn't even get him for destruction of government property.
If talking about hanging Nancy Pelosi is a crime, there are hundreds of thousands of people that need to be arrested for saying the same about pretty much every notable politician ever.
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This will also allow for future charges against other groups too, such as ANTIFA and other leftist terrorist groups too.
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If talking about hanging Nancy Pelosi is a crime, there are hundreds of thousands of people that need to be arrested for saying the same about pretty much every notable politician ever.
How many years did she get?
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Also, no fundraising allowed:
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-fundraisers-fines-clawback-justice-department-3490da93a6bea505e76bd249eeab72ba
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:rofl:
If the people that you elect won't do that, vote for the other guy in your party's primary.
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If the people that you elect won't do that, vote for the other guy in your party's primary.
Personally I’m not sure I like the idea of seditious conspiracy being used even against ANTIFA, although it would be a significantly more appropriate use than on the Proud Keepers or whatever right wing fringe group you are particularly enraged by. Out of curiosity and since you claimed it was a likely outcome, do you think that the people you vote for are likely to apply seditious conspiracy to ANTIFA?
I think there are plenty of more direct and obvious charges that were bypassed for ANTIFA types.
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If the people that you elect won't do that, vote for the other guy in your party's primary.
:rofl:
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Okay, so what did Rhodes actually do?
From what I've seen he had the temerity to loudly and publicly vocally oppose the democrat agenda.
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The best I can see, trying to sift through the biased sources, is that he organized one of the protest groups, bought a bunch of guns beforehand, which was widely mentioned in articles, but brought none of the to the protest (not mentioned in articles). He was on Capitol grounds, but never in the building. He "obstructed official proceedings". After the protest, he was apparently recorded saying that he regretted not having people show up armed, and something about hanging Nancy Pelosi from a lamp post.
People say that on arfcom every day. It is still not clear to me yet what he did that was illegal.
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If the people that you elect won't do that, vote for the other guy in your party's primary.
Charby, you're just wrong.
It's obvious, don't dig your hole deeper bro.
:old:
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Personally I’m not sure I like the idea of seditious conspiracy being used even against ANTIFA, although it would be a significantly more appropriate use than on the Proud Keepers or whatever right wing fringe group you are particularly enraged by. Out of curiosity and since you claimed it was a likely outcome, do you think that the people you vote for are likely to apply seditious conspiracy to ANTIFA?
I think there are plenty of more direct and obvious charges that were bypassed for ANTIFA types.
In the last primary election, I could see the folks I voted for going after any group, left or right that interrupted official events or committed seditious conspiracy. I tend to vote against an incumbent if I'm not liking the current situation or they are not behaving like they promised in the initial campaign. I have no problem with a protest vote in November either. It's great not being aligned with any major party, no loyalty, and they are all self serving a-holes.
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What your Congresscritter thinks is irrelevant. The federal prosecutors won't pursue cases agaist lefties.
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Ashli Babbitt's mother arrested
The mother of the woman shot and killed by Capitol Police on during the January 6 riot was arrested on Tuesday night following a violent confrontation with a protester outside the Washington DC prison where the rioters are being held.
Witthoeft, from Spring Valley, California, can be seen marching close to Brianne Chapman, who goes by the name Anarchy Princess and live-streamed the event.
Chapman had previously, in October, live-streamed herself stamping on flowers outside the Capitol which were placed to mark Babbitt's birthday.
On Monday, Chapman yelled: 'F*** Ashli Babbitt!'
As the group marched through DC, Chapman shouted with a megaphone: 'Terrorists coming through your neighborhood!'
She continued: 'Ashli Babbitt's mom, domestic terrorist! Nazis incoming! Insurrectionist losers!'
Then Witthoeft broke Chapman's megaphone
She was then charged with with assault and destruction of property and later released.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12142367/Ashli-Babbitts-mother-Micki-Witthoeft-58-charged-assault-destruction-property.html
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Also, no fundraising allowed:
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-riot-fundraisers-fines-clawback-justice-department-3490da93a6bea505e76bd249eeab72ba
Hmmm ...
Their fundraising success suggests that many people in the United States still view Jan. 6 rioters as patriots and cling to the baseless belief that Democrats stole the 2020 presidential election from Donald Trump.
The AP never misses an opportunity to push the agenda that any and all suggestions the election was flawed fixed are "baseless." I haven't noticed the AP covering the story of the videos from Maricopa County, Arizona, showing election staffers meddling with the voting machines AFTER they had supposedly been certified and sealed. Of course they won't mention that -- it doesn't support the agenda.
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and yes Virgina, ANTIFA people do get arrested and charged with domestic terrorism. Granted it is the state of Georgia, but it does happen.
March of this year.
https://www.atlantapd.org/Home/Components/News/News/3927/17
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and yes Virgina, ANTIFA people do get arrested and charged with domestic terrorism. Granted it is the state of Georgia, but it does happen.
March of this year.
https://www.atlantapd.org/Home/Components/News/News/3927/17
What's the over/under on any of those folks getting two decades in jail?
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What's the over/under on any of those folks getting two decades in jail?
Who knows, I am unfamiliar with Georgia courts, but they still execute people there.
Google says 5 to 35 years for Domestic Terrorism charge in GA.
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and yes Virgina, ANTIFA people do get arrested and charged with domestic terrorism. Granted it is the state of Georgia, but it does happen.
March of this year.
https://www.atlantapd.org/Home/Components/News/News/3927/17
Are those state or federal charges? Good for Georgia, but the Feds are still operating with an extreme anti-right bias.
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Are those state or federal charges? Good for Georgia, but the Feds are still operating with an extreme anti-right bias.
State charges in Georgia
I did google federal charges against ANTIFA members and this link came up, granted it is 3 years ago, but the courts move slow in some areas
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-300-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-nationwide-demonstrations
I think groups like Oath Keepers and Proud Boy get more media attention because there is a known leadership structure, where as groups like ANTIFA really don't have a known leadership. The lefty groups more than likely learned their lesson in the 1960-1970s when the feds went after them and don't show a clear organized leadership.
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Could be more ANTIFA members being charged out there but the MSM could be burying the stories like my cat buries a turd.
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Could be more ANTIFA members being charged out there but the MSM could be burying the stories like my cat buries a turd.
I don't disagree, radical right wing groups being sporty sells news.
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I don't disagree, radical right wing groups being sporty sells news fits the narrative.
FTFY
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Robert E. Lee was indicted but never arrested or tried - much less convicted - of any crime, though he did lose his voting rights and the Union seized his farm, which later became Arlington National Cemetary. And as commander of Confederate forces, he made actual war against the Union for years.
Jefferson Davis was arrested and spent two years in prison awaiting a trial - which never took place - before being released. As President of the secessionist Confederate States of America, he was the one who authorized shelling Fort Sumter, touching off the "hot" part of the Civil War.
What the January 6 people did was so very much more serious they NEEDED to be punished far more severely - if only because the Proud Boys are so much more of a threat than the Confederacy ever was.
<I saw this elsewhere, but it fits the discussion, so . . . >
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Robert E. Lee was indicted but never arrested or tried - much less convicted - of any crime, though he did lose his voting rights and the Union seized his farm, which later became Arlington National Cemetary. And as commander of Confederate forces, he made actual war against the Union for years.
Jefferson Davis was arrested and spent two years in prison awaiting a trial - which never took place - before being released. As President of the secessionist Confederate States of America, he was the one who authorized shelling Fort Sumter, touching off the "hot" part of the Civil War.
What the January 6 people did was so very much more serious they NEEDED to be punished far more severely - if only because the Proud Boys are so much more of a threat than the Confederacy ever was.
<I saw this elsewhere, but it fits the discussion, so . . . >
They probably got spared due to Salmon Chase being tired from the involvement in the impeachment of Andrew Johnson and the nation was "healing" from the Civil War.
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... and the nation was "healing" from the Civil War.
I think that was the big factor. The intent seems to have been to bring the nation back together so the winners were willing to forgive the losers in the interest of not fanning the embers of conflict back into flame.
Healing and unity are not the goals of today.
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Healing and unity are not the goals of today.
Of either side. The players today want the division amongst the unwashed masses.
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Of either side. The players today want the division amongst the unwashed masses.
Indeed, but even being aware of that hasn't stopped either of us from stooping to it.
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They probably got spared due to Salmon Chase being tired from the involvement in the impeachment of Andrew Johnson and the nation was "healing" from the Civil War.
Lee was spared because of Gen. Grant's parole of all the surrendering Confederates (at Appomattox Court House)... when Grant heard about plans to arrest Lee, he threatened to resign from the army, believing it would violate the terms of the surrender agreement. President Johnson backed down.
A very classy move by Gen. Grant.
Of course, Lee was never a traitor anyway, as he was a citizen of the CSA during the war. To open another can of worms.
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According to an article at Britannica, Jefferson Davis wasn't tried because they were afraid that at trial it might come out that states actually had a right to secede under the original Constitution. Nobody wanted to risk that.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jefferson-Davis/Capture-and-imprisonment
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New Information on Jan 6 Bomber: Former FBI DC FBI Field Office Chief Says Data Used to Identify ‘Bomber’ Was Conveniently Corrupted – Blames Service Provider
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/new-information-jan-6-bomber-former-fbi-dc/
I hadn't realized they had release any information on the "bomber". This does nothing to quiet the conspiracy theories. =)
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‘NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE’… Emergency Medicine Specialists Expose Cops’ FAILED Attempt To Revive Roseanne Boyland On January 6: ‘The Way This Code Was Run This Patient Had No Chance To Survive’… ‘I’ve Never Seen Anybody Do That’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/negligent-homicide-emergency-medicine-specialists-expose-cops-failed/
I doubt this will amount to anything, but I thought all cops got basic first aid training. I would assume it included CPR and using a defibrillator.
I get that training for work. Emergency defibrillators I have seen are idiot proof almost idiot proof. You stick the pads on their skin and hit a button. There are pictograms that show it. I am surprised cops wouldn't at least be able to do that. It makes me wonder who these guys were that were playing Cops that day.
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Update
Daniel Rodriguez, the man who attacked then-Washington, DC, police officer Michael Fanone with an electroshock weapon in the neck during the US Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, was sentenced Wednesday to 12 and a half years in prison.
Rodriguez, 40, had pleaded guilty to four counts in February, including conspiracy, assault with a dangerous weapon and obstruction of an official proceeding.
Jackson, who called Rodriguez’s attack on Fanone a “horrific assault,” noted that while Rodriguez was trying to stop the peaceful transfer of power, Fanone “was protecting the very foundation of democracy.”
“He was protecting America,” she said.
Before the judge handed down her sentence, Rodriguez blamed his actions on his difficult upbringing, disparities between socioeconomic classes in American society, and the violent protests in the summer of 2020 in a rambling, half-hour speech.
Man who used stun gun to attack Michael Fanone on January 6 sentenced to over 12 years in prison
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/politics/michael-fanone-daniel-rodriguez-january-6-sentenced/index.html
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I wonder what the average sentance for assault someone gets for employing bear spray or a taser in a Antifa riot is......
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So this guy gets 12 years for physically assaulting someone, and the other guy got 18 years for having a big mouth and being with a group the government doesn't like.
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Still making arrests
An Elizabethtown man was charged June 28 for allegedly pushing against police and helping other rioters physically fight officers while trying to break into the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021, according to an FBI report.
William Stover has been charged with civil disorder, unlawful entry of a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds and impeding passage through Capitol grounds.
Stover, 46, was arrested Monday, and his felony and misdemeanor charges were then unsealed in federal court.
FBI arrests Elizabethtown man in connection to US Capitol riot for fighting with police
https://www.wdrb.com/in-depth/fbi-arrests-elizabethtown-man-in-connection-to-us-capitol-riot-for-fighting-with-police/article_5ac6b5c6-20c0-11ee-9c6d-57e5fc08a116.html
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Is Trump next?
They will do whatever they can to keep him out of the 2024 race
Former President Donald Trump says he received a letter from Special Counsel Jack Smith stating that he is the target of a Jan. 6 grand jury investigation on Tuesday.
Trump said he initially received the letter on Sunday and said he expects to face both an arrest and indictment.
A government source with direct knowledge of the situation also told Fox News that Smith’s office sent Trump a target letter.
Trump says he is DOJ Jan. 6 grand jury investigation target
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-doj-jan-6-grand-jury-investigation-target
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Saw some libtard talking head claiming Trump would be offered a plea deal for no jail time if he also withdrew from politics. Not just the POTUS race, but all politics.
The theory being that if he runs and loses he then is subject to years in jail and massive fines (even from billionaire perspective). The plea offer therefore would be an inducement to simply retire and enjoy playing golf or whatever for his last decade or so of life.
I can’t really imagine Trump accepting a plea deal like that. He’s in it to win it, and if necessary he’d pardon himself before accepting any plea deal. And I don’t think he’d pardon himself. That alone would require admitting he was beaten on that matter.
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The most entertaining outcome is the most likely
If Elon's correct, I'm beginning to think Trump will get locked up, win the election from jail, then Pardon himself after Robert's swears him in through the bars on a jail cell.
Then style himself a Nelson Mandela for the new century.
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If Elon's correct, I'm beginning to think Trump will get locked up, win the election from jail, then Pardon himself after Robert's swears him in through the bars on a jail cell.
Then style himself a Nelson Mandela for the new century.
Wow. There's a thought.
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Is Trump next?
They will do whatever they can to keep him out of the 2024 race
Trump says he is DOJ Jan. 6 grand jury investigation target
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-says-he-doj-jan-6-grand-jury-investigation-target
This crap is only going to make him more popular with primary voters. Which, I think is the point.
The media and the Democrats are doing whatever they can to get him the nomination (by baseless legal persecution)... so he can crash and burn in the election again. Trump polls terribly with Independents and in a general election matchup with Biden.
DeSantis was actually competitive in the polls until Trump got in legal trouble a couple of months ago... and that got Trump a lot more support from GOP voters. :facepalm:
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Saw some libtard talking head claiming Trump would be offered a plea deal for no jail time if he also withdrew from politics. Not just the POTUS race, but all politics.
Nope, the left wants Trump as the GOP candidate. Because he is a massive loser with everybody except about 1/2 the GOP primary voters.
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The media and the Democrats are doing whatever they can to get him the nomination (by baseless legal persecution)... so he can crash and burn in the election again. Trump polls terribly with Independents and in a general election matchup with Biden.
I agree that is their plan. I feel like I should point out that they are only batting .500 on that plan.
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I agree that is their plan. I feel like I should point out that they are only batting .500 on that plan.
And judging by some of the talking heads, the GOP may engage in some of the shenanigans the dems were pulling last time (vote harvesting, unrequested mail ballots, extra-early voting, etc.) so the same shady stuff the dems pulled may not work again.
But then again, it IS The Stupid PartyTM we're talking about, which apart from preemptive political surrender has a remarkable ability to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
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The D’s that are state AG’s, SOS, etc will prosecute any R vote fraud with a vengeance too.
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And in other 06JAN news, an FBI whistleblower is testifying that 11,000 of video is being withheld by the FBI because it would identify undercover agents committing the same crimes they've arrested protestors for.
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/07/18/fbi-whistleblower-jan-6-footage-n2385509
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17 years
A leader of the far-right Proud Boys has been sentenced to 17 years in prison, one of the longest sentences yet handed out over the US Capitol riot.
Prosecutors said US Army veteran Joe Biggs, 38, was an "instigator" of the storming of Congress on 6 January 2021.
The former Infowars correspondent was convicted of seditious conspiracy and other charges in May.
In court, Biggs pleaded for leniency and expressed remorse for his actions.
The sentence, handed down by US District Judge Timothy Kelly, is below both federal sentencing guidelines and the 33 years sought by prosecutors.
Biggs was convicted of a slew of charges in May, including seditious conspiracy, conspiracy to use, intimidation or threats to prevent officials from discharging their duties and interference with law enforcement during civil disorder.
In a sentencing memo, prosecutors said that Biggs - a veteran of the war in Iraq and former correspondent for conspiracy website Infowars - "employed his military experience to direct and control large groups of men under his command" to lead a "revolt against the government".
Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sentenced to 17 years for Capitol riot
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66676581
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22 years
BREAKING: Ex Proud Boy and former FBI informant Enrique Tarrio, who was not in DC on January 6 after being arrested for burning a BLM banner, has been sentenced to 22 years in jail for January 6, the longest of any defendent
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) September 5, 2023
More time than any pedophile, rapist, or child trafficker. Let that sink in.
— Lost (@djdubmasterflex) September 5, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/09/05/ex-proud-boy-sentenced-to-22-years-in-prison-for-seditious-conspiracy-n2386883
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Not that I really expect to see a Republican president again, but if we do I hope it’s one with the stones to pardon those guys (or at least commute sentences).
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What did Enrique Tarrio do (if anything)?
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Wrongthink, and got popular.
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Not that I really expect to see a Republican president again, but if we do I hope it’s one with the stones to pardon those guys (or at least commute sentences).
Forget it.
I've been whining that "The Fix is in" for quite a number of years. The Fix is no longer necessary, since we are now in a one-party political system from which there can be no recovery.
Virtually all aspects of changing, exercising, or controlling power are in the hands of one party now.
Terry, 230RN
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DOJ Convicts Proud Boys Of Rioting For The Wrong Side
https://babylonbee.com/news/doj-convicts-proud-boys-of-rioting-for-the-wrong-side
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Something to keep in mind is that there is no denying there were knuckleheads there that day who broke stuff and who you could say "rioted" to some extent or another. From what I have seen, they have, for the most part, been getting hefty fines and/or sentences in the 1-5 year range. There may be some who have gotten more, but this is what I've seen.
The two decade sentences are going to people that never entered the building or were not anywhere near the Capitol at all. Because of, as Dogmush alluded to, wrongthink.
I too, hope an R with balls gets in to commute or pardon most of these sentences. Or at least looks at fair retrials. Even better, additionally investigate the prosecutors and judges for their bias and for the jury trials all taking place in DC, with juries NOT of the defendants' peers. It'll never happen, but one can hope.
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In contrast
When the DOJ is on your side
BLM protester with a long criminal history set fire to a pawn shop after looting it killing a father of 5. The DOJ pretty much defended the guy.
Here's what the government's sentencing memo to the judge stated.
Mr. Lee credibly states that he was in the streets to protest unlawful police violence against black men, and there is no basis to disbelieve this statement. Mr. Lee, appropriately, acknowledges that he "could have demonstrated in a different way," but that he was "caught up in the fury of the mob after living as a black man watching his peers suffer at the hands of police." As anyone watching the news world-wide knows, many other people in Minnesota were similarly caught up. There appear to have been many people in those days looking only to exploit the chaos and disorder in the interest of personal gain or random violence. There appear also to have been many people who felt angry, frustrated, and disenfranchised, and who were attempting, in many cases in an unacceptably reckless and dangerous manner, to give voice to those feelings. Mr. Lee appears to be squarely in this latter category. And even the great American advocate for non-violence and social justice, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., stated in an interview with CBS's Mike Wallace in 1966 that "we've got to see that a riot is the language of the unheard."
The Reason the DOJ Asked for Leniency for a BLM Protester Who Killed a Man Is Simply Unbelievable
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/09/07/the-reason-the-doj-asked-for-leniency-for-a-blm-protester-who-killed-a-man-is-simply-unbelievable-n2163510
He got 10 years and I have no doubt will probably be released early
'A riot is the language of the unheard'
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-riot-is-the-language-of-the-unheard
That was then. Now, of course, we are watching the same DOJ seek maximum sentences against defendants who took part in the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Do prosecutors routinely seek reduced sentences by telling judges that the Jan. 6 rioters felt "frustrated" and "disenfranchised"? Do prosecutors concede that the rioters got out of hand but excuse their behavior by arguing they were just "caught up in the fury of the mob"? And do they quote King to justify the rioters' acts by contending that they really believed they were engaging in "the language of the unheard"?
The answer to every question, of course, is no. And that is the problem Cotton was getting at when he wrote to Garland. Cotton never mentioned Jan. 6, but he had one fundamental question: "Does the attorney general believe participation in a riot is a basis for leniency in sentencing individuals for violent crimes?"
It has been a year and a half since Cotton asked that question. Garland has not responded.
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Comparing and contrasting prison sentences, I just saw on the news that the guy who, with pre-meditation, ran over and killed a kid for the crime of being "A Republican extremist" has just been handed his sentence. Five years.
Here's a liberal story on it:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/a-north-dakota-man-was-sentenced-to-5-years-in-18356012.php
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Know some people who made Pelosi poop her depends - 22 years
Murder a kid because you don't like his politics - 5 years
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Think they'll get 22 years?
BREAKING: Activists are occupying @SpeakerMcCarthy’s office demanding a full 5 year reauthorization of PEPFAR, which some Rs are opposing. Background: https://t.co/nQVnCxPDE0 pic.twitter.com/wCZx4Z6wzu
— Alice Miranda Ollstein (@AliceOllstein) September 11, 2023
Activists 'occupy' House Speaker's office ('is this an insurrection?')
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/09/11/is-this-an-insurrection-protesters-occupy-house-speakers-office-n2387078
HIV protesters occupy House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's office: Seven arrested as activists get on their knees and chant
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12505407/HIV-protesters-House-Speaker-Kevin-McCarthy-office-Six-arrested-activists.html
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Oh, and in case you forgot J6 was much worse than 9/11
Twenty-two years ago this morning, a foreign terrorist murdered nearly 3,000 Americans. But he could not come close to ending or even hurting our democracy.
That attack arrived 19 years, three months and 26 days later, at the hands of an ersatz American.
— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) September 11, 2023
Osama bin Biden, after all, had never taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and the United States.
Our 45th president had.
Ironically, the locus of his assault was the same building that was saved by the bravery of the passengers on United 93.
— S.V. Dáte (@svdate) September 11, 2023
Note the slip there in the name
WORST 9/11 take of the day goes to HuffPo Sr WH journo for self-owning Freudian slip in hate-filled tweet
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/09/11/date-huffpo-n2387074
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22 years
BREAKING: Ex Proud Boy and former FBI informant Enrique Tarrio, who was not in DC on January 6 after being arrested for burning a BLM banner, has been sentenced to 22 years in jail for January 6, the longest of any defendent
— Greg Price (@greg_price11) September 5, 2023
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/09/05/ex-proud-boy-sentenced-to-22-years-in-prison-for-seditious-conspiracy-n2386883
Meanwhile
Under federal sentencing guidelines, Ray Epps will face between zero and six months in prison after pleading guilty to one count of disorderly conduct. https://t.co/3b8zWF8O9b
— CBS News (@CBSNews) September 20, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/09/21/ray-epps-sentencing-n2387534
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This is where we see if he is a fed asset or not. So far, most of the sentencing has been MORE than the prosecution has called for. A lot more. So if he is one of the 06JAN "insurrectionists", he should be getting at least five years in prison. If he's not a fed asset.
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This is where we see if he is a fed asset or not. So far, most of the sentencing has been MORE than the prosecution has called for. A lot more. So if he is one of the 06JAN "insurrectionists", he should be getting at least five years in prison. If he's not a fed asset.
I would have said that question has been more than answered by the misdemeanor Disorderly Conduct charge, as opposed to the parade of felonies everyone else in the zip code got.
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It's not that uncommon for the people who didn't enter the building, assault anyone or break anything just plead out on a disorderly charge and get probation. Brandon Straka is a good example and pretty comparable to Epps. I guess Straka could be a fed too... [tinfoil]
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It's not that uncommon for the people who didn't enter the building, assault anyone or break anything just plead out on a disorderly charge and get probation. Brandon Straka is a good example and pretty comparable to Epps. I guess Straka could be a fed too... [tinfoil]
Enrique Tarrio wasn't even in DC and he got sentenced to 22 years.
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Enrique Tarrio wasn't even in DC and he got sentenced to 22 years.
That is true. Do you think Epps should be charged like Tarrio and not Straka?
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That is true. Do you think Epps should be charged like Tarrio and not Straka?
Do you think Tarrio should be charged like Tarrio and not Straka?
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Do you think Tarrio should be charged like Tarrio and not Straka?
No but I do think charging Epps like Straka makes sense and I think Straka's charges were appropriate.
Although - Tarrio actually was an informant so maybe charging Epps the same would prove he is a fed! :rofl:
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That is true. Do you think Epps should be charged like Tarrio and not Straka?
No, absolutely not. No one involved should have been charged like Tarrio. I would be interested in more transparency on how the justice department decided who got reasonable charges for attending a riot, and who got reamed in the ass.
Ray Epps' charge is actually probably reasonable for a guy on camera urging people to escalate their criminal behavior. It'll be interesting to see what he gets compared to Owen Shroyer as well. I believe Shroyer caught a Felony for standing outside egging people on.
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No, absolutely not. No one involved should have been charged like Tarrio. I would be interested in more transparency on how the justice department decided who got reasonable charges for attending a riot, and who got reamed in the ass.
I agree
It'll be interesting to see what he gets compared to Owen Shroyer as well. I believe Shroyer caught a Felony for standing outside egging people on.
Shoyer is also a repeat offender and broke the conditions of a previous deal by even being there - so I would expect a slightly harsher sentence for him.
In December 2019, Shroyer was arrested in Washington after he disrupted a House Judiciary Committee hearing for then-President Trump’s impeachment proceedings. He later agreed to stay away from Capitol grounds, a condition of a deal resolving that case.
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Shoyer is also a repeat offender and broke the conditions of a previous deal by even being there - so I would expect a slightly harsher sentence for him.
Repeat offender only if you agree that standing outside the building and bitching about government is an "offense" which I'm not sure I'm willing to stipulate yet. But you are correct he has been run through this disorderly conduct dance once before.
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Comparing and contrasting prison sentences, I just saw on the news that the guy who, with pre-meditation, ran over and killed a kid for the crime of being "A Republican extremist" has just been handed his sentence. Five years.
Here's a liberal story on it:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/a-north-dakota-man-was-sentenced-to-5-years-in-18356012.php
I'm appalled at the disparity between sentences handed down when a vehicle is the tool of mayhem versus some other implement or none at all.
Murder is bad (life in jail), unless you do it in a car. Then it's something we suggest not doing again (5 years). And if you were drunk, maybe 8 years.
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+1000 what's newsworthy here is apparently they are going to be held somewhat accountable. Only because of the video of course.
It's amazing how safety-paranoid and litigious our society is, and how brash and indifferent it is whenever there is a car involved. Like two completely different reality maps are applied as soon as a car enters the discussion. Cars are truly the real religion of America. Years ago I would have said it's money. But considering how willing Americans are to destroy wealth on the altar of car worship, it's definitely car culture. There's no other product that's consistently killing 50k+/ year including thousands of children, disabling 2+million people per year, every year, costing the country 300+ billion dollars per year every single year, just in terms of wealth destroyed in crashes, with basically no opposition at all. Or even any standing understanding that anything should be done at all. As the main religion, it's a substrate that is simply not to be questioned.
If you pay attention to headlines it becomes even more obviously pathological. When someone gets run over around here, first of all it doesn't even make the local news it's so common. They just clean it up and unless you were there or saw it on social media you won't even know. But if it's particularly bad so that there's a headline, it will say something like "pedestrian struck by car hospitalized" or "an SUV collided with a motorcycle". There is never any agency. It's always a cosmic inevitability that we can do nothing about. Imagine if they said things like "man struck by bullet..." or "a gun shot a torso yesterday...". A couple weeks ago a guy in a challenger straight ran over a kid on a scooter IN A CROSSWALK. He just said "I didn't see them" and got a traffic citation.
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They sent an army after this guy.
World News Tonight
@ABCWorldNews
An urgent manhunt is underway in the New Jersey town of Helmetta for a suspect in connection to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack. Gregory Yetman evaded arrest and fled into the woods near his home. @sramosABC
has the latest from the scene. https://trib.al/Ejs7BVd
Video at https://twitter.com/ABCWorldNews/status/1722453959422419167?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
FBI offering $10,000 reward in search for man wanted in connection with Jan. 6 attack
https://abcnews.go.com/US/new-jersey-search-man-jan-6-attack/story?id=104731302
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They sent an army after this guy.
Holy hell. And they even talk in the video about how the guy had been interviewed by the MSM earlier this year. So he's been living his life, and now over two years later, they send a gajillion guys after him for "assault on a Federal officer", for which there doesn't seem to be any video. There's tons of video of antifa attacking cops. I haven't seen any videos of entire LE battalions being sent to arrest any of them (or the few that were in fact arrested).
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I just spoke with Todd Yetman, brother of Gregory, the man hunted down by FBI for J6 related offenses.
The conversation was sad, infuriating, and in some instances, funny.
First, he said the FBI staked out their home for THREE MONTHS prior to the raid on Wednesday am.
(Todd,… pic.twitter.com/T8te0QJUtX
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) November 10, 2023
More of that conversation at https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/11/11/police-state-julie-kelly-has-inside-story-from-fbis-massive-urgent-manhunt-for-a-j6-suspect-n2389675
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The FBI is scum.
Does saying that violate the rules of a polite society?
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Yes, I think that is true. Not sure if they are worse scum than the politicians giving them orders, but I am thinking worse. I figure if they had ethics, they would not have abandoned these cases to do political investigations.
The FBI Halted Probe Of Pedophile To Focus On January 6. Now He’s Accused Of Abusing A 10-Year-Old Boy.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-fbi-dropped-probe-of-pedophile-to-focus-on-january-6-now-hes-accused-of-abusing-10-year-old-boy
On January 6, 2021, the FBI explicitly chose to abandon a sting on a child pornographer in Virginia who was messaging with an undercover agent about having sex with a nine-year-old boy, opting instead to focus on prosecuting Donald Trump’s supporters who stormed the U.S. Capitol. Less than three years later, the FBI discovered the same man living in Alaska where he appears to have been performing sex acts on a 10-year-old boy, according to court documents.
The man was only arrested, and the court documents only filed, because Welsh moved to Alaska and crossed the Anchorage FBI’s radar in an unrelated perversion investigation.
“Cases that check the boxes, the concern is only those will get appropriate attention,” he told The Daily Wire. “When you use politics to guide your law enforcement priorities, it necessarily means that public safety takes a back seat.”
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Mike Johnson has released all the 06JAN video to the public. Here is the link:
https://cha.house.gov/cha-subcommittee-reading-room-fe781e74-d577-4f64-93cc-fc3a8dd8df18
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See a few videos like this pop up. They need to let all these people go and shut down this witch hunt.
NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage of January 6th shows it was more of a guided tour than an "INSURRECTION"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4FHj33lpwQ
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Lies, lies, and damned lies.
No honor among thieves, no honesty among reporters.
Toe the line or no byline.
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If, somehow, Trump or another R manages to beat the margin of fraud, they should have the AG drop all remaining pending charges/investigations, pardon all non-violent convictions and commute any sentences for even violent offenses.
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If, somehow, Trump or another R manages to beat the margin of fraud, they should have the AG drop all remaining pending charges/investigations, pardon all non-violent convictions and commute any sentences for even violent offenses.
And declassify everything related to the event which is something to President can also do without anyone else' approval. I am sure there are a lot of things that someone has classified for CYA.
What "violent" crimes happens on J6? (other than the cop who shot the woman)
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What "violent" crimes happens on J6? (other than the cop who shot the woman)
There were rioters who were fighting cops and pepper spraying them. Not most of them, to be sure, but there were some.
I’m content for people with legitimate violent or property crimes to serve their terms.
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There were rioters who were fighting cops and pepper spraying them. Not most of them, to be sure, but there were some.
Yes, that's true.
And in some cases, the police attacked first apparently.
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There were rioters who were fighting cops and pepper spraying them. Not most of them, to be sure, but there were some.
I’m content for people with legitimate violent or property crimes to serve their terms.
I agree there was absolutely some documented violence by, what I think we will find once all the unedited video is reviewed by the public, a small percentage of the protestors. They should face some legal repercussions.
I won't even say that they should get the same "tsk tsk, run along now and just don't do it again" that antifa got. They should face a just punishment if found guilty. Instead, they are getting sentences in excess of even what the prosecution is asking. Every single person prosecuted so far should get a new trial, at least 1000 miles away from DC.
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FBI lost count of how many paid informants were at Capitol on Jan. 6, and later performed audit to figure out exact number: ex-official
https://nypost.com/2023/09/19/fbi-lost-count-of-number-of-informants-at-capitol-on-jan-6-ex-official/
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Prepare to be shocked. This release will reveal the insidious truth that the left and the corrupt officials at FBI/DOJ do NOT want Americans to see.
No less than 5-10 key Democrats will announce they’re retiring from Congress. Don’t doubt me.
Rep Clay Higgins regarding the release of the J6 tapes.
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False flag, psychological operation, government run and funded propaganda event to deceive the public.
Government provocateurs providing a pretense to lock up innocent Trump supporters and sully MAGA.
USA, the northern banana republic.
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Yep, meltdown pretty much describes it.
Adam Kinzinger Melts DOWN Like a Frothy-Mouthed Harpy After Mike Lee Calls for J6 Committee Investigation
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/19/adam-kinzinger-continues-melting-down-over-j6-footage-n2389970
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Add Liz to the meltdown bucket
YIKES: Liz Cheney Only Makes Things WORSE for Herself Trying to Clap Back at Mike Lee Over NEW J6 Footage
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/19/liz-cheney-tries-dunking-on-mike-lee-n2389967
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While I want justice for those falsely, illegally, and/or over-prosecuted, watching those two melt down realtime is almost higher on the list. They are legit traitors.
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Yep, meltdown pretty much describes it.
Adam Kinzinger Melts DOWN Like a Frothy-Mouthed Harpy After Mike Lee Calls for J6 Committee Investigation
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/19/adam-kinzinger-continues-melting-down-over-j6-footage-n2389970
Zombies. For an ugly orange fatso no less
Did a 14-year-old girl hack his account?
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Did a 14-year-old girl hack his account?
Nope, that's Kinzinger being Kinzinger.
He's been a whiny ass adolescent since day one
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Nope, that's Kinzinger being Kinzinger.
He doesn't know about "body positivity," I guess.
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I doubt it, but if we are extremely lucky, releasing the raw footage will result in the punishment of government officials.
Perna was present at the protest on January 6 and he did walk into the Capitol. There was never any evidence that he did anything violent, not even from the witch-hunting J6 Committee. But he was still arrested (actually, he turned himself in). He was charged with four misdemeanor counts related to entering the building illegally and obstructing the official business of the government. Like many J6 defendants, he was urged to plead guilty, with the promise of a light sentence. That was a lie. After his plea, prosecutors told his attorney that they were adding a domestic terrorism enhancement to his charges. Those misdemeanors were now felonies and he was facing nine years in prison (though the maximum sentence could have gone up to 20 years in prison and a $250,000 fine).
The actual sentence was never issued because, on February 25, 2022, Matthew Perna took his own life.
Now, nearly two years later, this newly released footage shows what a farce his prosecution was and the tragedy of his suicide.
https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2023/11/19/matthew-perna-new-footage-n2389968
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There were rioters who were fighting cops and pepper spraying them. Not most of them, to be sure, but there were some.
I’m content for people with legitimate violent or property crimes to serve their terms.
Has anyone been named that actually did that violence? I won't claim to know all the people charged, but I hadn't heard any individual was identified.
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Has anyone been named that actually did that violence? I won't claim to know all the people charged, but I hadn't heard any individual was identified.
I don’t know. I’ve seen video of the fights, but I’m not the type of guy who sat down with a box of tissues and lotion to watch the trials.
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What's bothersome is this is probably what's called a limited hang out, which means it's probably much much worse than what's being revealed.
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Gateway Pundit has links to police bodycam footage from J6:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/11/exclusive-j6-police-body-cam-footage-is-uncovered/
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I don’t know. I’ve seen video of the fights, but I’m not the type of guy who sat down with a box of tissues and lotion to watch the trials.
Not trying to accuse anyone here of anything, but I haven't noticed anyone actually accused of violence. It sort of makes me wonder who the specific people were that were involved in the "violence".
Also, today I am hearing that capitol police start shooting non-lethal weapons into the crowd before stuff kicking off.
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06JAN committee deposition videos used as evidence in the hearings are gone. The committee chair said he didn't feel they needed to preserve them.
https://twitchy.com/artistangie/2023/12/01/robert-w-malone-md-missing-jan-6-evidence-n2390395
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06JAN committee deposition videos used as evidence in the hearings are gone. The committee chair said he didn't feel they needed to preserve them.
https://twitchy.com/artistangie/2023/12/01/robert-w-malone-md-missing-jan-6-evidence-n2390395
If that is 100% true and not another extreme stretch of the truth conspiracy story, then all cases started by the Jan 6 committee needs to be dropped and the committee investigated. Prosecution of any member destroying evidence.
If it is false then the good doctor needs to STFU.
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If that is 100% true and not another extreme stretch of the truth conspiracy story, then all cases started by the Jan 6 committee needs to be dropped and the committee investigated. Prosecution of any member destroying evidence.
If it is false then the good doctor needs to STFU.
https://thepoliticsbrief.com/house-republican-confirms-that-certain-j6-committee-videos-have-vanished/
“We found out about this early in the investigation when I received a call from someone who was looking for some information off one of the videotapes, and we started searching, and we had none,” Loudermilk indicated. “I wrote a letter to Bennie Thompson asking for them. And he confirmed that they did not preserve those types. He didn’t feel that they had to.”
“But according to House rules, you have to preserve any data and information and documents that are used in an official proceeding, which they did. They actually aired portions of these tapes on their televised hearings, which means they had to keep those. But yet he chose not to,” Loudermilk added. “I believe they exist somewhere. We’ve just got to find where all these videos are.”
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I guess we wait.
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BLM arsonists given $500 fine. Sounds fair, man.
Note lower on the page, somebody else got 15 years for burning an LGBDFGHZ flag.
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2023/12/04/two-defendants-who-burned-down-a-wendys-for-blm-will-pay-500-fine-n2390486
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How about this one?
They figure 2 1/2 years on home incarceration (already served) is punishment enough for murdering someone
DJ accused of killing bartender at Louisville nightclub will not serve jail time after taking plea deal
https://www.wave3.com/2023/12/05/dj-accused-killing-bartender-louisville-nightclub-will-not-serve-jail-time-after-taking-plea-deal/
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Preferential treatment SUX. [barf]
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Keeping You Safe: Here Are 10 More Dangerous Jan 6 Criminals The FBI Just Arrested
https://babylonbee.com/news/keeping-you-safe-here-are-10-more-dangerous-jan-6-criminals-the-fbi-just-arrested
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The Babylon Bee but not satire
Says ANTIFA people he recognized was in the MAGA crowd urging the crowd on to do something
The Babylon Bee sits down with Siaka Massaquoi to talk about how the FBI recently separated him from his pregnant wife at the airport and arrested him over charges related to January 6th. What really happened on January 6th and what was Siaka doing at the Capitol Building?
FBI Arrests Babylon Bee Actor Siaka Massaquoi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWQ4sBHFR4
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The Babylon Bee July 2022
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDIu4CLXcAAmMeX?format=jpg&name=large)
Joe Biden Jan 2023
President Biden
@POTUS
You can’t be pro-insurrection and pro-America.
https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1743425668514271662
AMAZING! Biden's J6 Speech Was 'Another Babylon Bee Prophecy Fulfilled'
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/01/06/bidens-j6-speech-was-another-babylon-bee-prophecy-fulfilled-n2391441
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Dude was bragging about sending protestors and trespassers away for a combined 840 years. Also this is apparently now by far the largest FBI effort in the history of the FBI. If true, that would mean they dedicated more resources to this than to 9/11. That's disgusting.
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Dude was bragging about sending protestors and trespassers away for a combined 840 years. Also this is apparently now by far the largest FBI effort in the history of the FBI. If true, that would mean they dedicated more resources to this than to 9/11. That's disgusting.
9/11 - some people did something.
J6 -
BIDEN: "We nearly lost America" on January 6th. pic.twitter.com/OLuHFybdeJ
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) January 5, 2024
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Speaking of J6
The family of a 35-year-old California woman who was fatally shot by a Capitol Police officer during the Jan. 6 insurrection has filed a $30 million wrongful death lawsuit against the U.S. government.
Ashli Babbitt was shot and killed Jan. 6, 2021, while she tried to climb through a broken door into the Speaker's Lobby outside the House Chamber, as a mob of dozens of supporters of then-President Donald Trump stormed the Capitol while lawmakers were preparing to certify the results of the 2020 election. The shooting was captured on cell phone video. Babbitt later died at a hospital.
Ashli Babbitt's family files $30 million lawsuit over Jan. 6 shooting death
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ashli-babbitt-january-6-capitol-shooting-wrongful-death-lawsuit/
There's a bunch of other news articles but if you're have blood pressure issues stay out of the comments because the TDS reading is off the scale in many.
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Gives me the chills just reading it especally when his Ranger training skills kicked in, anyway.........
Attn. Community Notes! Dem Rep Shares Harrowing Tale of Survival at the Capitol on Jan. 6
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/01/06/attn-community-notes-dem-rep-shares-harrowing-tale-of-survival-at-the-capitol-on-jan-6-n2391445
Put me in mind somewhat of the old Gecko45 Mall Ninja postings
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Gives me the chills just reading it especally when his Ranger training skills kicked in, anyway.........
Attn. Community Notes! Dem Rep Shares Harrowing Tale of Survival at the Capitol on Jan. 6
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/01/06/attn-community-notes-dem-rep-shares-harrowing-tale-of-survival-at-the-capitol-on-jan-6-n2391445
Actually it reminds me somewhat of the old Gecko45 Mall Ninja postings
I like how he's hunkered down in "incoming" mode while others are sitting around with crossed legs and surfing their phones like they're in the dentist's waiting room.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDK7TYvXkAAgjEy?format=jpg&name=small)
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Brave Sir Robin
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MSNBC "news":
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/msnbc-host-fights-back-tears-jan-6-segment-im-going-to-try-to-get-this
Also:
The segment came just one day after the D.C. Court of Appeals ruled on Friday that defendants illicitly present in the Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot can be convicted even if they were passively observing the events inside.
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MSNBC "news":
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/msnbc-host-fights-back-tears-jan-6-segment-im-going-to-try-to-get-this
https://youtu.be/KtSYZi7zd7A
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Not to be out done by the above here's AOC
https://twitter.com/Shaughn_A2/status/1743843705545539924
"saw this white man!" I can only imagine the trauma that caused
I had brain cells jump ship watching that :facepalm:
She Wasn't THERE: AOC's Weepy J6 Retelling Does NOT FAIL to Entertain and Annoy TF Out of Twitter (Watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/07/aoc-j6-n2391472
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Also, from that court ruling:
"First, it is well-established that whether conduct qualifies as disorderly depends on the surrounding circumstances," the court wrote. "Courts consistently observe that ‘whether a given act provokes a breach of the peace depends upon the accompanying circumstances,’ making it ‘essential that the setting be considered.’"
"Second, it is equally clear from caselaw that even passive, quiet and nonviolent conduct can be disorderly," the ruling continued.
That's pretty Great Britian-ey, where you can stand in front of an abortion clinic and scream obscenities and use "violent language" as long as it's pro-abortion. If you stand in the same spot and pray in your head for the children aborted there, you are committing a crime.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDNt42WWwAAbu7O?format=jpg&name=medium)
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What a steaming pile of _____
I don't know what's worse the video or the comments
https://twitter.com/libradunn/status/1743234238290198748
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What a steaming pile of _____
I don't know what's worse the video or the comments
https://twitter.com/libradunn/status/1743234238290198748
I am often quite pleased that with twitter's current interface, non-twitter people are unable to see comments or anything else below the linked post.
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I am often quite pleased that with twitter's current interface, non-twitter people are unable to see comments or anything else below the linked post.
But you can see the video right?
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But you can see the video right?
Sadly, yes.
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Sadly, yes.
Well the comments are mostly people praising him for his bravery and thanking him for saving our democracy that day with only a few calling him for his BS
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What a steaming pile of _____
I don't know what's worse the video or the comments
https://twitter.com/libradunn/status/1743234238290198748
The funny part is I don't see any violence in that fake video. Just people throwing stuff on the floor and dumping trash cans.
That said, from a campaign point of view, it is a good video for drumming up controversy and making sure a whole lot more people are aware of his campaign. Stirring the pot can work especially in the politics of today.
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3 years ago today, I was there in the U.S. Capitol. We were minutes away from being violently attacked. I saw what happened, I felt what happened. And so did you.
Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States of America. Don’t ever forget it. pic.twitter.com/NhBYq1GIM3
— Steve Cohen (@RepCohen) January 6, 2024
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/08/cohen-j6-tweet-n2391467
Not sure he could see much out of that thing
https://twitter.com/RepCohen/status/1743654606662447195
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDK0nkWXUAAZJeT?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Why would he have been wearing a 5 minute escape pack? (or at least that is what it looks like) Was the FBI planning to gas the Capitol building?
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Ray Epps Sentenced, Evades Jail Time
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-epps-sentenced-evades-jail-time
That was quick. Plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge.
Ray Epps, a mysterious January 6 figure some theorized to be a federal informant, has been sentenced to a year of probation for his participation in the January 6, 2021, Capitol breach, evading the year sentence suggested by prosecutors.
Epps, 62, was ordered to pay $500 in restitution and serve 100 hours of community service in addition to probation.
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Ray Epps Sentenced, Evades Jail Time
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-epps-sentenced-evades-jail-time
That was quick. Please guilty to a misdemeanor charge.
Unbelievable. But then, kinda believable.
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So it wasn't an insurrection after all:
POLITICO
@politico
Ray Epps, pro-Trump rioter smeared by conspiracy theories, gets probation for role in Capitol riot
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A Sailor who transmitted secrets to Chinese intelligence just got 27 months (not 18 years).
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-navy-service-member-pleads-guilty-transmitting-sensitive-us-military-information-chinese
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Why would he have been wearing a 5 minute escape pack? (or at least that is what it looks like) Was the FBI planning to gas the Capitol building?
I figured that was his COVID outfit
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A Sailor who transmitted secrets to Chinese intelligence just got 27 months (not 18 years).
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-navy-service-member-pleads-guilty-transmitting-sensitive-us-military-information-chinese
Well, he's a Democrat, so...
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Ray Epps Sentenced, Evades Jail Time
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ray-epps-sentenced-evades-jail-time
That was quick. Plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge.
A 70 year old grandmother got 6 months jail.
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A 70 year old grandmother got 6 months jail.
Apparently she wasn't a card carrying member.
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Apparently some recently released radio recordings have the capitol cop that shot Ashli Babbitt claiming he was taking fire just before he shot her. Also he got promoted to Captain.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/exclusive-after-shooting-ashli-babbitt-capitol-police-lt-made-false-radio-report-lawsuit-5558897
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The more we learn the more it stinks
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It does get pretty crazy the more you get into it. J6 was without a doubt a "soft" coup that was well planned out by (treasonous) US security forces along with the (corrupt n' rotten) political establishment. Does anyone think that Pelosi jumping to the very specific word "insurrection" even before the smoke cleared at the Capitol and all media outlets parroting it was just happenstance? Using the events of J6 to invoke the 14th amendment was not an afterthought. I don't think it worked out as smoothly as they planned even though Liz Cheney tried real hard LOL
It's concerning to see that the gloves are off. The entities that are currently controlling the government and it's agencies will stop at nothing to cling onto power. Their desperation reeks. I'm just bracing for whatever their move will be for 2024. One thing is certain though, tyranny always comes into power through "an emergency" and the fear filled people usually accept it.
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Apparently some recently released radio recordings have the capitol cop that shot Ashli Babbitt claiming he was taking fire just before he shot her. Also he got promoted to Captain.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/exclusive-after-shooting-ashli-babbitt-capitol-police-lt-made-false-radio-report-lawsuit-5558897
Be interesting to see what comes out on that in the lawsuit and then no doubt gets buried by the media.
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Be interesting to see what comes out on that in the lawsuit and then no doubt gets buried by the media.
Yeah, and apparently some other cops started it down on the ground floor, supposedly mistaking breaking glass for gunshots and calling out "shots fired" before he did.
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Yeah, and apparently some other cops started it down on the ground floor, supposedly mistaking breaking glass for gunshots and calling out "shots fired" before he did.
You would think they would know what a gunshot sounds like but maybe with everybody yelling etc...
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You would think they would know what a gunshot sounds like but maybe with everybody yelling etc...
They've probably never heard one without ear-pro.
Not trying to make excuses for the cops, but I know that recognizing gunshots (either incoming fire, or people shooting at other people nearby) can sometimes be difficult. I've seen folks in a combat zone look at each other for a couple shots thinking "is that gunfire?".
I bet those cops were also primed by their higher to expect that evil racist MAGA crowd to be armed to the teeth, so they were expecting gunfire and that's what they interpreted loud sounds to be.
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Pelosi's chief of security lied under oath. We only know this because Mike Johnson has released the raw video. The Oathkeepers who stood between capitol cop Harry Dunn (who also lied under oath, and who was also the agitated one, threatening to "take a bunch of people with me") and some agitated protestors were sent to prison because of this lie.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1746974003317579834
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/16/lazarus-j6-lie-oath-keepers-n2391798
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What I fear is that there is little (bordering on no) chance of pulling this country back to something even vaguely resembling a proper constitutional republic without a Pinochet style coup and much bloodshed.
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Pelosi's chief of security lied under oath. We only know this because Mike Johnson has released the raw video. The Oathkeepers who stood between capitol cop Harry Dunn (who also lied under oath, and who was also the agitated one, threatening to "take a bunch of people with me") and some agitated protestors were sent to prison because of this lie.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1746974003317579834
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/01/16/lazarus-j6-lie-oath-keepers-n2391798
It's not a lie if it supports the narrative
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What I fear is that there is little (bordering on no) chance of pulling this country back to something even vaguely resembling a proper constitutional republic without a Pinochet style coup and much bloodshed.
I fear you are correct. However, once the Pandora's Box of bloody coups is opened, that will be our future. Repeated bloody coups until the nation totally fragments.
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Peter Navarro just got four months in the klink for "defying a subpoena".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-white-house-official-peter-navarro-learns-sentenced-months-defying-jan-6-subpoena
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Peter Navarro just got four months in the klink for "defying a subpoena".
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-white-house-official-peter-navarro-learns-sentenced-months-defying-jan-6-subpoena
How long will Hunter get?
Rhetorical question
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06JAN the miniseries:
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/01/documentary-reveals-how-january-6-committee-envisioned-hearings-as-a-miniseries-n2392461
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This article has some good information and is worth a few minutes to read. Just more information that points to Jan 6th being a manufactured event.
EXCLUSIVE: RNC Security Officer Who Was First Responder To Jan 6 Pipe Bomb Says Official Story ‘Makes No Sense Whatsoever’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-rnc-security-officer-who-was-first-responder-to-jan-6-pipe-bomb-says-official-story-makes-no-sense-whatsoever
The bomb, found minutes before protesters entered the Capitol, was attached to a 60-minute egg timer, but it had been there since the night before. “I was two feet from it. Why would someone construct a device with a one-hour kitchen timer, place it 8:30 p.m. the night before, if they intended for it to detonate 16 hours later?” he asked.
A similar bomb was found minutes after the RNC bomb was detected, directly in front of the DNC beside a bench, raising questions about how the DNC would not have located it for seventeen hours, despite a bomb-sniffing dog that walked by it. Kamala Harris, at the time a U.S. Senator and the vice-president elect, was at the DNC, meaning there would likely be extra security in place, Capolino explained.
As a result of law enforcement closing off the area, they noticed a red pickup truck full of a cache of weapons, Capolino said. The truck was parked in a prominent spot in front of the RNC and near the Capitol South Metro, a highly-policed area. “So there were two separate FBI crime scenes going on simultaneously,” he said.
The owner of the vehicle eventually identified himself to law enforcement because the pipe bomb quarantine prevented him from retrieving his vehicle.
Prosecutors actually pleaded with the judge for a lighter sentence for the owner of the red truck.
To Capolino, the pipe bomb and the truck full of weapons and Molotov cocktails directly outside of the RNC and next to Capitol office buildings, were the most dramatic and dangerous elements of the day. Yet the pipe bombs were barely ever spoken of, and few even know the red pickup truck incident occurred.
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This article has some good information and is worth a few minutes to read. Just more information that points to Jan 6th being a manufactured event.
EXCLUSIVE: RNC Security Officer Who Was First Responder To Jan 6 Pipe Bomb Says Official Story ‘Makes No Sense Whatsoever’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-rnc-security-officer-who-was-first-responder-to-jan-6-pipe-bomb-says-official-story-makes-no-sense-whatsoever
Prosecutors actually pleaded with the judge for a lighter sentence for the owner of the red truck.
I only very vaguely recall the pipe bomb story, and don't recall anything about the pickup.
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I only very vaguely recall the pipe bomb story, and don't recall anything about the pickup.
I don't remember the truck either. Not the only time someone showed up in D.C. with weapons, but tied in with Jan 6th it is suspicious. Add to that the prosecutors trying to give the guy a lesser sentence where they were going out of their way to throw the book at harmless protestors who stayed inside the velvet ropes. Makes me think they had an informant show up with "revolutionary" stuff to use as evidence against the protestors, but it never got deployed and their guy got caught with it.
I remember the pipe bomb story in general. It was initially reported as a big deal, but then it was swept under the rug really fast.
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Another FBI raid on a scary 06JAN protestor. This one apparently took place in February of 2024.
One of the claims against him?
Kuehne, wearing a ballistic helmet and carrying protective gloves, then made his way to the U.S. Capitol, shouting, among other things, “Whose streets? Our streets!”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1761434846147105276
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/26/ring-doorbell-camera-catches-fbi-raid-on-january-6-suspect-n2393349
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Just for reference, today is 01MARCH2024.
A journalist has just been arrested by the FBI for reporting on 06JAN at the Capitol. Supposedly misdemeanor charges, but they managed to do a felony-like perp walk with him instead of say, letting him show up with his lawyers. Or you know, getting a ticket or a free pass like the antifa.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/03/01/blaze-media-reporter-arrested-handcuffed-and-charged-for-crime-of-covering-j6-n2393508
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In a spot of slightly good news, appeals courts are starting to rule on the "overzealous" sentences:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/court-tosses-jan-6-sentence-ruling-affect-100-cases-rcna141465
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Just for reference, today is 01MARCH2024.
A journalist has just been arrested by the FBI for reporting on 06JAN at the Capitol. Supposedly misdemeanor charges, but they managed to do a felony-like perp walk with him instead of say, letting him show up with his lawyers. Or you know, getting a ticket or a free pass like the antifa.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/03/01/blaze-media-reporter-arrested-handcuffed-and-charged-for-crime-of-covering-j6-n2393508
Saw where NBC in their reporting on this did not once use the word journalist to describe him.
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Something else the J6 committee hid
NEW: Liz Cheney & the J6 Committee concealed evidence that President Trump offered to send 10,000 National Guard troops to protect the US Capitol
The offer was rejected by the DC Mayor.
Why conceal exonerating evidence, @Liz_Cheney?
Via @MZHemingway https://t.co/ZrTB2HOSGR
— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) March 8, 2024
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/10/liz-cheney-january-6-committee-held-this-evidence-back-n2393828
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Jan 6 Protesters Request To Be Called 'Undocumented Tourists'
https://babylonbee.com/news/jan-6-protesters-request-to-be-called-undocumented-tourists
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I think this is a premium link, so you might not be able to see it, but the gist is: Suddenly over the last few months 06JAN arrests have dramatically increased after a pause, and they expect to arrest and try another 500ish people before the end of the year. From the story, it appears there is a five year statute of limitations, and LE is spacing out arrests to "not clog the courts", so it sounds like they'll be arresting people all the way through 2026.
And speaking of "try", I was unaware of this, but there apparently has been a 100% conviction rate of all those tried in the DC court via jury trial. Some have only been convicted of a partial list of charges, but everyone who chose a trial by a "jury of their peers' was convicted. The average jury trail conviction rate in the DC court is 65%. Also, 100% of change of venue requests have been denied.
Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, paints Jan. 6 in the dramatic tones of warfare as he pledges prosecutors will continue their work unabated into 2024 and beyond.
“In scenes often reminiscent of a medieval battle, officers engaged in hand-to-hand combat with members of the invading force, many of whom carried dangerous weapons including firearms, chemical sprays, tasers, stabbing weapons, and makeshift weapons across the Capitol [grounds] and in the Capitol itself,” Graves said on Jan. 6, 2024.
“[Jan. 6, 2021, was] likely the largest single-day mass assault of law enforcement officers in our nation’s history,” Mr. Graves said.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/article/after-a-pause-doj-is-now-sharply-increasing-jan-6-arrests-5600972?ea_src=frontpage&ea_med=premium-carousel-10
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I'm sure the Soviet Union had a similar conviction rate for anyone who dared question a election
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Once again, if Trump somehow beats the margin of fraud, he needs to issue a blanket pardon to all J6 attendees that were non-violent, and issue a commutation of all sentences for violent convictions. I don't think anyone actually violent should get a full pardon, but even they should get some relief. And anyone convicted of a J6 "offense" who wasn't even there should also get a full pardon. E.g. Enrique Tarrio.
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Once again, if Trump somehow beats the margin of fraud, he needs to issue a blanket pardon to all J6 attendees that were non-violent, and issue a commutation of all sentences for violent convictions. I don't think anyone actually violent should get a full pardon, but even they should get some relief. And anyone convicted of a J6 "offense" who wasn't even there should also get a full pardon. E.g. Enrique Tarrio.
Agreed. However, I have heard constantly about people who were violent, but very few details about specific people. I recall some seemingly violent stuff happened on one side of the capital, but very little about it and who was involved.
Also, declassify and release names and numbers of all the agents and informants who were in D.C. that day. What misinformation was done before and after the fact. I doubt the currently 3 letter agency leadership would happily release that info.
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Also, declassify and release names and numbers of all the agents and informants who were in D.C. that day. What misinformation was done before and after the fact. I doubt the currently 3 letter agency leadership would happily release that info.
Cheney and her committee already used a cloth and wiped all the "break the narrative" data that they could find. Not that there isn't some they missed. The Trump / National Guard stuff, for example.
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Some of the "violent" protestors may have been attacked by the police first.
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Some of the "violent" protestors may have been attacked by the police first.
And how many of the "violent" protestors were undercover officers or informants? Or were the ones that initiated the actions. I am sure feds get training on crowd management.
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My daughter's US history book is current to the "storming of the capitol." Meanwhile, and she is a smart girl, she had no clue when I quizzed her on other excesses foreign and domestic that may have involved government. Tianamen square, Bonus Army, Holodomor, Pol Pot etc. But we got time for j6.
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That fish keep getting bigger and bigger
January 6 rioters are not hostages – they’re insurrectionists who brutally beat and killed police officers. Donald Trump continues to get more dangerous. https://t.co/GcENqJADKL
— Rep. Jason Crow (@RepJasonCrow) March 18, 2024
Julie Kelly Straight-Up DECIMATES Loser Democrat Claiming Jan 6 Protesters Brutally Beat and Killed Cops
https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/03/19/jason-crow-january-6-n2394123
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CIA Contractor Boasts About How the FBI 'Can Put Anyone in Jail' With a 'Nudge'
https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/04/09/cia-agent-boasts-about-how-the-fbi-can-put-anyone-in-jail-with-a-nudge-n2394917
Estimates 20 Undercover FBI Agents at J6, Works with Some of Them Now at CIA
CIA Agent On HOT-MIC Admits TARGETING Tucker, Alex Jones | CONFIRMS FBI Agents at January 6th Riot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsX34jd7sas
https://twitter.com/SoundInvestig/status/1777697750764658927?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1777697750764658927%7Ctwgr%5Ed4758b75604b183faf99f4feded607ca55f1d749%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fbrettt%2F2024%2F04%2F09%2Fcia-agent-boasts-about-how-the-fbi-can-put-anyone-in-jail-with-a-nudge-n2394917