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Title: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: dogmush on February 14, 2021, 12:28:57 PM
Like the title says. Short of stealing one from an old home, can one get [or make] a toilet that uses a bunch of water per flush to help push effluent all the way to the septic tank?
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: cordex on February 14, 2021, 12:35:07 PM
I have a couple of old toilets I will be taking out of my house.

Not sure that shipping them would be worthwhile though.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Jim147 on February 14, 2021, 12:36:17 PM
You want a pressure assist unit.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: BobR on February 14, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Maybe find someone remodeling their bathroom, or talk to local contractors? A lot of time the older toilets end up on the curb for garbage day.


bob
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: dogmush on February 14, 2021, 12:46:53 PM
You want a pressure assist unit.

My understanding is that requires swapping out the whole thin, as the pressure assist bowl waterways are different.  At $300 a pop, that's not a hard no, but it's be nicer to just get a bigger tank to put on my existing one.

I was hoping that, like the gas can, there was an easily done, market driven work around  for shitty [heh] .gov regs.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2021, 12:48:23 PM
Maybe find someone remodeling their bathroom, or talk to local contractors? A lot of time the older toilets end up on the curb for garbage day.


bob

Beat me in posting that.
Check when your city or one near you schedules a big junk pickup and cruise some neighborhoods. I usually see a bunch of older toilets sitting at the curb during the week of a big junk pickup.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Ron on February 14, 2021, 01:04:48 PM
Check and see if there is a Habitat for Humanity store near you. They have all types of old fixtures etc...
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Nick1911 on February 14, 2021, 01:05:42 PM
Check and see if there is a Habitat for Humanity store near you. They have all types of old fixtures etc...

That's a good one.

Also, you might post a wanted ad on craigslist.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on February 14, 2021, 01:18:17 PM
I didn't quite appreciate the "old style" toilets that came with my house. At the time I was just too cheap(poor) at the time to put in some of those fancy, new ones.
You can take my 5 gallon per flush toilet when you pry my cold dead buttocks off the seat.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on February 14, 2021, 01:32:54 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=aftermarket+power+flush+kit+for+toilet&oq=aftermarket+power+flush+kit&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j33i22i29i30l5.14941j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

There are aftermarket power flush kits available, but probably don't ship to places like Ca.  We have one toilet that doesn't flush properly since it was install without enough drop to the indoor sewer pipe.  I am considering getting on, rather than a whole new toilet.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Kingcreek on February 14, 2021, 02:58:50 PM
If it won’t flush a bucket of golf balls it ain’t a real toilet.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Jim147 on February 14, 2021, 03:33:11 PM
This reminds of when my wife and I got married and rented an apartment for a few years.

We came home one evening and maintenance guy had changed the shower head and put the old one in our bathroom trashcan.

We took showers the next morning and I grabbed the old shower head out of the thrash and put it back on. The saved the new one for when we moved.

When we got the house we took the old shower head with us and are still using it to this day.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: zxcvbob on February 14, 2021, 03:35:53 PM
I think all you need is a new tank.  A 3 gallon tank on a low-flow toilet with a large diameter throat and trap would probably be awesome.  OTOH, it might overflow if it clogs if the bowl doesn't hold an entire tankful of water.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: zxcvbob on February 14, 2021, 03:37:28 PM
Having to flush twice is not that bad, because one flush will do just fine when you pee.  How many times do you poop per day?
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: BobR on February 14, 2021, 03:39:27 PM
Having to flush twice is not that bad, because one flush will do just fine when you pee.  How many times do you poop per day?

Reminds me of the California drought of the late 70s into the 80s. "If it's yellow be mellow. If it's brown flush it down."


bob

Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 14, 2021, 03:41:04 PM
Our place has two of the current gen HFLV (high flow, low volume) toilets, the kind with the extra large tank downtube.  It's three or four inches in diameter with a correspondingly large drain-side opening. We've had no trouble at all. Not a single stoppage that I can recall. Honestly, I think they work better than the old-school toilets I had in the old house.

Brad
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Kingcreek on February 14, 2021, 03:42:43 PM
This reminds of when my wife and I got married and rented an apartment for a few years.

We came home one evening and maintenance guy had changed the shower head and put the old one in our bathroom trashcan.

We took showers the next morning and I grabbed the old shower head out of the thrash and put it back on. The saved the new one for when we moved.

When we got the house we took the old shower head with us and are still using it to this day.
We built a master suite on 12 years ago with a delux master bath. I normally do my own plumbing but hired everything done in the addition. When he was finishing the shower I asked him if I was going to hate the new shower. He told me it was illegal for him to modify it. But if I happened to remove a certain blue plastic reducer while he went out to his van for a moment I might not hate it. The shower has 3 heads, no flow reducers.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Jim147 on February 14, 2021, 03:48:28 PM
We built a master suite on 12 years ago with a delux master bath. I normally do my own plumbing but hired everything done in the addition. When he was finishing the shower I asked him if I was going to hate the new shower. He told me it was illegal for him to modify it. But if I happened to remove a certain blue plastic reducer while he went out to his van for a moment I might not hate it. The shower has 3 heads, no flow reducers.

I've told customers having problems with the instant hot water heaters to google how to do that. They need a good flow to get up to temp.

Having to flush twice is not that bad, because one flush will do just fine when you pee.  How many times do you poop per day?

I don't see how that is any of your business.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Brad Johnson on February 14, 2021, 03:51:20 PM
This reminds of when my wife and I got married and rented an apartment for a few years.

We came home one evening and maintenance guy had changed the shower head and put the old one in our bathroom trashcan.

We took showers the next morning and I grabbed the old shower head out of the thrash and put it back on. The saved the new one for when we moved.

When we got the house we took the old shower head with us and are still using it to this day.


Just replaced the corroded shower head in our master bath with this.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Delta-In2ition-Two-in-One-5-Spray-6-8-in-Dual-Wall-Mount-Fixed-and-Handheld-Shower-Head-in-Chrome-58569-25-PK/312202810

60 seconds with a hammer and punch to remove the restrictor and it works a treat. A little too well, actually. With both heads running and water temp set to "flay", it will empty a 40 gallon water heater in about five minutes. But they are five luxurious minutes. With one head running and more moderate water temps, there's plenty of hot water for both of us to shower.

Tat being said, there's a brand new 50 gallon Rheem sitting in the garage waiting for me to get off my lazy behind and install it. Around here, water heaters rarely last beyond 10-12 years and this one has a 2003 mfg date.

Brad
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: brimic on February 14, 2021, 06:45:31 PM
Some of the flush assisted toilets are way better than even the old toilets, they just cost a lot more.
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: HankB on February 14, 2021, 08:16:51 PM
While some of the new toilets will do a good job emptying the bowl, the low volume may not carry the waste all the way to the main sewer.   :facepalm:

But planning the environmental crime of decent flushing . . . be careful the envirocops don't get you. (ESPECIALLY if you've hoarded conventional light bulbs as well.)
Title: Re: Is there anyway to get a black market high flow toilet?
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on February 14, 2021, 10:25:14 PM
While some of the new toilets will do a good job emptying the bowl, the low volume may not carry the waste all the way to the main sewer.   :facepalm:

But planning the environmental crime of decent flushing . . . be careful the envirocops don't get you. (ESPECIALLY if you've hoarded conventional light bulbs as well.)

Oh no, don't look in my basement. :old: