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Title: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on May 10, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
Working my way through this investigative journalism piece on the origins of covid-19, where it came from, who funded its research and how it got funded.

The author is not a no nothing hack, from Wikipedia:
Nicholas Wade (born 17 May 1942) is a British author and journalist. He served as the staff writer for the Science Times section of The New York Times from 1982 to 2012. He is the author of the controversial book A Troublesome Inheritance: Genes, Race and Human History (2014).

This is pretty political so here it goes

https://nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038

Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: cordex on May 11, 2021, 04:10:03 AM
Interesting article. Thank you.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: fifth_column on May 11, 2021, 04:41:32 PM
Very interesting information. Now I understand the thread title.

In my mind, it's very likely the virus escaped the lab, for what that's worth. Even the US State Department admits the CCP has been hindering investigations: "For more than a year, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has systematically prevented a transparent and thorough investigation of the COVID-19 pandemic’s origin, choosing instead to devote enormous resources to deceit and disinformation."  https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/index.html (https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/index.html)
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on May 11, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
Fireworks begin.

I don't suspect we'll get to know the truth.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-sen-paul-rips-fauci-over-gain-function-funding
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on May 11, 2021, 06:54:14 PM
Tucker did a monologue on this, video embedded in this article.

 https://summit.news/2021/05/11/tucker-carlson-calls-for-investigation-into-fauci-wuhan-lab-connection/
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Bogie on May 11, 2021, 10:30:19 PM
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: MechAg94 on May 12, 2021, 12:01:09 AM
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.
That makes way too much sense.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: cordex on May 12, 2021, 12:05:51 AM
If China were using it to conceal mass deaths, why would they pretend that their death rates were so low?
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Bogie on May 12, 2021, 08:12:04 AM
Because, overall, there weren't really all that many Hong Kong protesters to get rid of... Under 100,000. And when they saw how other places were self-harming by going with the quarantine strategy, they sure were not going to interrupt them.
 
"See! The quarantines work! You should weld your apartment building doors shut! See us do it! See our roving medics scraping people off the sidewalks... But we had low numbers, because quarantines. You should shut all the things down. Until you get $80/sheet plywood! Then you have low numbers like us! Now, pay attention to the cases!!!!!
"
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on May 12, 2021, 09:02:02 AM
At the very minimum we can say:

The USA was, in part, funding the research at the Wuhan lab through a third party.

Dr. Fauci was in charge of signing off on the funding that eventually ended up at the Wuhan lab.

The Wuhan lab was modifying bat viruses in such a manner that could increase their ability to infect human beings.

The Covid-19 pandemic started in Wuhan China.

Am I overstating anything above?
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: kgbsquirrel on May 12, 2021, 10:47:35 PM
I don't think it escaped the lab.
 
I think it was seeded into the population, with a pre-prepped propaganda blitz about an epidemic, to cover for the execution, and cremation, of thousands of Hong Kong protesters.
 
And American media ate it up, and prompted the politicians to act, or else.
 
It kills the heck out of people who are terminally ill with "co-morbidities."
 
It empties hospices and skilled-nursing-facilities whose patients have to be turned to keep them from developing pressure ulcers.
 
Most other folks get the snifflies. Or, if their doctor panics, and decides that they need to be on a ventilator, because they've heard so much about how that is the treatment (it isn't...), and get their lungs shredded like tissue paper by increasingly high pressures, then they show the "lasting damage" that they crowed about.
 
Yeah, it whups your ass. Past few Santa seasons, I pretty much needed a month vacation time to get over all the crud that I'd catch from the kids during the last week. Whiskey and movies...
 
I suspect that geriatric morbidity numbers will hit a trough for the next year. They already got the easy ones...
 
I do think it was cooked up - likely as a bioweapon to be largely non-fatal to a population, to soften resistance.

Bingo.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: JTHunter on May 12, 2021, 10:49:59 PM
China has a population "problem".  What better way to get rid of some of the low-end non-technological people and cause worldwide disruption that may benefit the CCPs grandiose schemes?  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on May 16, 2021, 05:30:07 PM
China has a population "problem".  What better way to get rid of some of the low-end non-technological people and cause worldwide disruption that may benefit the CCPs grandiose schemes?  [popcorn]

We need a "Like" button on here.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Chester32141 on May 19, 2021, 09:10:11 PM
Perhaps this gentleman knows something ...  [tinfoil]

Quote
A senior member of a Chinese Communist Party think tank claimed China won a biological war against the United States in 2020.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/senior-member-ccp-think-tank-claims-china-won-unprecedented-biological-war-us-2020-put-us-back-place-video/
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on May 29, 2021, 07:49:32 AM
Fauci on gain of function research, weighing the risks and rewards.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/28/fauci-in-2012-gain-of-function-research-into-bat-viruses-is-worth-the-risk-of-a-pandemic/

Daily Mail FWIW

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9629563/Chinese-scientists-created-COVID-19-lab-tried-cover-tracks-new-study-claims.html
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on June 03, 2021, 10:07:23 AM
It's OK now to believe it came from the lab. Newsweek has expose.

https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-how-amateur-sleuths-broke-wuhan-lab-story-embarrassed-media-1596958?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1622658604
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Bogie on June 03, 2021, 11:27:49 PM
Newsweek is a right wing group of Trump supporters.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on January 11, 2022, 09:26:48 AM
DARPA considered Fauci's research gain of function research.

Why take medical advice from a known provable liar like Fauci?

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 11, 2022, 09:32:36 AM
DARPA considered Fauci's research gain of function research.

Why take medical advice from a known provable liar like Fauci?

https://www.projectveritas.com/news/military-documents-about-gain-of-function-contradict-fauci-testimony-under/

Because Fauci is a darling of the democrats and guess who controls the flow out of the spigot of endless money?
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 12, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
Because Fauci is a daring of the democrats and guess who controls the flow out of the spicket of endless money?

*spigot* 

And Fauci controls it, I guess. He seems to control everything else around here.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 07:27:00 AM
*spigot* 


I even double checked the spelling and I still messed it up
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Fly320s on January 13, 2022, 07:36:53 AM
I even double checked the spelling and I still messed it up

Does that include "daring" instead of "darling?"   :police:
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ron on January 13, 2022, 07:38:06 AM
Does that include "daring" instead of "darling?"   :police:
How darl you!
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 07:40:58 AM
It never rains it....

(https://c.tenor.com/8p7a6U-82zkAAAAM/rain-splash.gif)

Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 07:42:24 AM
Cat must of walked on my keyboard.
Yeah that's it.


Actually that does happen a lot in my house.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: RocketMan on January 13, 2022, 07:51:45 AM
A cat must *have* walked on your keyboard?

We're just continuing the piling on.   =D
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 07:54:44 AM
A cat must *have* walked on your keyboard?

We're just continuing the piling on.   =D

Nope, typed it exactly I would have said it in this case. Sometimes I throw in a little Kentucky accent
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 08:02:12 AM
Either that or my aspergers kicks in from time to time.
So between that and the cats and then throw in fat fingered typos from time to time.... yeah.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 08:07:38 AM
And either a lack of or too much coffee.
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 08:12:58 AM
But don't let any of that stop you guys from, shall we say, pointing it out.  :P
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Brad Johnson on January 13, 2022, 10:03:04 AM
But don't let any of that stop you guys from, shall we say, pointing it out.  :P

"It" is at the end of the sentence, between "pointing" and "out".

There, "it" has now been pointed out.

Brad
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 10:09:33 AM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: Ben on January 13, 2022, 10:19:09 AM
"It" is at the end of the sentence, between "pointing" and "out".

There, "it" has now been pointed out.

Brad

https://youtu.be/hpwJE5DEk7U?t=36
Title: Re: Gain of function
Post by: WLJ on January 13, 2022, 10:24:53 AM
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