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Title: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on May 12, 2021, 05:16:56 PM
The AG announced that "white supremacists" are the greatest domestic threat to America today. Given the nebulous definitions that they use for "white supremacists", how do the 90 or so percent of APS members that fit the description like being on the most wanted list?  =D

There's some real, 100% bullshit in this story right here:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/553161-biden-officials-testify-that-white-supremacists-are-greatest

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/05/12/attorney-general-merrick-garland-testifies-that-white-supremacists-are-our-greatest-domestic-security-threat/
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: makattak on May 12, 2021, 05:24:16 PM
The AG announced that "white supremacists" are the greatest domestic threat to America today. Given the nebulous definitions that they use for "white supremacists", how do the 90 or so percent of APS members that fit the description like being on the most wanted list?  =D

There's some real, 100% bullshit in this story right here:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/553161-biden-officials-testify-that-white-supremacists-are-greatest

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/05/12/attorney-general-merrick-garland-testifies-that-white-supremacists-are-our-greatest-domestic-security-threat/

They are working very hard to make fetch happen.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on May 12, 2021, 05:25:14 PM
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Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Bogie on May 12, 2021, 10:10:12 PM
The progressive left actually thinks it can win CWII.
 
Because their faith tells them that the police and the military are just people who were not smart enough to get into a good school, and who will obey any orders from an authority figure. And that the peasants aren't all that smart, and are wanting to wait on their betters.
 
So... This morning... A young man, maybe 23-25 comes into the store to buy some windshield wipers. At first, he doesn't -want- any help. He knows what he wants.
 
Well, it was somewhere in the 30' aisle of wipers. "I can look up what your car takes." Nope.
 
A couple of minutes later... What size?
 
"Okay, these work. These will work. Let's check what you have on there. Okay, You'll will need some mildly special ones, because automotive engineers hate people."
 
Back in. Pick out the wipers. He doesn't need help to put them on.
 
I waited about two minutes. He actually got one of the old ones off, but can't deal with the Ikea directions on the new ones. About a minute, they're on, and he's wondering how it happened.
 
"Oh... I just figured out that I liked doing stuff like this when I retired from working in the pharma labs."
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Andiron on May 12, 2021, 10:45:55 PM
Given the nebulous definitions that they use for "white supremacists", how do the 90 or so percent of APS members that fit the description like being on the most wanted list?  =D


WE'RE #1 WE'RE #1.

Is that how I'm supposed to do it?  I've never put much thought into being superior to ever other race*.

*Only the ones I'm better than. (thanks Mal)
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: HeroHog on May 12, 2021, 11:35:59 PM
I'm white and I'm superior (to MANY idjuts out there). PS: the two are NOT related.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on May 13, 2021, 07:41:17 AM
Loyalty

All groups are expected and encouraged to be loyal to "their own". If they aren't they all have names for the traitorous behavior.

Blacks, Jews, Indigenous/"native" peoples, "Asian", LGBT etc and the list goes on.

Everyone naturally practices in group loyalty. "In group loyalty" is very human. It is how humans build functional families, tribes, villages, towns, cities, states and civilizations.

"Whites" have been propagandized to become deracinated and drained of their ethnicities, their in group loyalty being transferred to an ideology, to very slippery undefined concepts, to "propositions".

It's the lie of a the "propositional nation".

The founding documents were designed for posterity. A people.

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POSTER'ITY, noun [Latin posteritas, from posterus, from post, after.]

1. Descendants; children, children's children, etc. indefinitely; the race that proceeds from a progenitor. The whole human race are the posterity of Adam.

2. In a general sense, succeeding generations; opposed to ancestors. 


American "whites" are loyal to abstract concepts and other tribes.

They have little to no loyalty to their own or posterity.

It's been bred and educated out of them.

The highest ideal is to be a successful economic unit.

It's for the economy.



Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Cliffh on May 13, 2021, 07:29:10 PM
The AG announced that "white supremacists" are the greatest domestic threat to America today. Given the nebulous definitions that they use for "white supremacists", how do the 90 or so percent of APS members that fit the description like being on the most wanted list?  =D

There's some real, 100% bullshit in this story right here:

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/553161-biden-officials-testify-that-white-supremacists-are-greatest

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/05/12/attorney-general-merrick-garland-testifies-that-white-supremacists-are-our-greatest-domestic-security-threat/

Is this the 3rd or 4th list where whites have been the #1 enemy?

Doesn't really matter to me.  Screw 'em.  I am who I am and proud of it.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: HankB on May 13, 2021, 11:45:09 PM
Aw heck - since a person can now identify as any gender they want (aren't there a couple of dozen to choose from?) it's no leap at all for a person to identify as any race or ethnicity they want.

So to avoid the stain of White supremacy, I think I'll be changing my name to Trayvon RunningBear Chan-Hernandez, a Black Cherokee Asian Hispanic.

Where can I sign up for my reparations and cushy government diversity director consultant job?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: makattak on May 14, 2021, 09:31:56 AM
Aw heck - since a person can now identify as any gender they want (aren't there a couple of dozen to choose from?) it's no leap at all for a person to identify as any race or ethnicity they want.

So to avoid the stain of White supremacy, I think I'll be changing my name to Trayvon RunningBear Chan-Hernandez, a Black Cherokee Asian Hispanic.

Where can I sign up for my reparations and cushy government diversity director consultant job?

NO NO NO NO NO.

You see, while gender is merely a social construct, race is irrevocable defined by your DNA. Something so intrinsically part of your being can NEVER be changed.  If you attempt to pretend to be another race, you are guilty of the worst crime possible: VICTIMHOOD APPROPRIATION.

See: Rachel Dolezal
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on May 14, 2021, 09:33:28 AM
If you're white you're racist.
If you're racist you're white.
If you disagree you're a white supremist
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: MillCreek on May 14, 2021, 10:23:39 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/08/fox-news-deadly-disease-foxitis-arwa-mahdawi

If you plead 'foxitis', maybe your lawyer can get you sent to a secure psychiatric facility instead of PMITA prison.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on May 14, 2021, 10:25:54 AM
FDS
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Andiron on May 14, 2021, 11:11:39 PM
Fresh new supremacy.

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Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Boomhauer on May 15, 2021, 07:51:29 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/08/fox-news-deadly-disease-foxitis-arwa-mahdawi

If you plead 'foxitis', maybe your lawyer can get you sent to a secure psychiatric facility instead of PMITA prison.

This bitch is a *expletive deleted*ing idiot.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 01, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
Biden doubles down on what Garland said:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1399837556796276742

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/01/president-biden-confirms-that-terrorism-from-white-supremacy-is-the-most-lethal-threat-to-the-homeland-today/

I'm almost bothered more by the clapping than I am by his statement.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: HankB on June 02, 2021, 07:09:21 AM
I wonder how a full year of bona fide white supremacy murders in all of 2021 will compare with the black-on-black murders Chicago (just ONE city!) will experience in one summer month this year.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: MechAg94 on June 02, 2021, 09:11:27 AM
I wonder how a full year of bona fide white supremacy murders in all of 2021 will compare with the black-on-black murders Chicago (just ONE city!) will experience in one summer month this year.
https://www.newsweek.com/chicago-has-seen-217-more-shooting-victims-2021-so-far-compared-2020-1588303

Chicago Has Seen 217 More Shooting Victims in 2021 So Far, Compared to 2020
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: charby on June 02, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
pretty sure white supremists didn't cyberhack 25% of the meat production in the country.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: bedlamite on June 02, 2021, 12:50:06 PM
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Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: MechAg94 on June 02, 2021, 04:09:46 PM
pretty sure white supremists didn't cyberhack 25% of the meat production in the country.
Some label Asians as white.  They would probably throw Russians under that label also.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 02, 2021, 04:11:20 PM
Some label Asians as white.  They would probably throw Russians under that label also.

Though these jamooks are speaking strictly domestic. It's only white people in the US.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: bedlamite on June 02, 2021, 04:36:48 PM
Some label Asians as white.  They would probably throw Russians under that label also.

You're forgetting that it was the Russians that stole the 2016 election for Trump. MSNBC told me so.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: TechMan on June 02, 2021, 04:43:57 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/chicago-has-seen-217-more-shooting-victims-2021-so-far-compared-2020-1588303

Chicago Has Seen 217 More Shooting Victims in 2021 So Far, Compared to 2020

https://heyjackass.com/ (https://heyjackass.com/)
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on June 03, 2021, 08:27:11 AM
Tucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAhMd5Bzfgo&t=1056s

Where is he wrong?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 09, 2021, 12:10:29 PM
Former FBI Assistant Director suggests that to stop these white supremacist extremists, we need to start arresting their leaders in Congress.


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/06/09/ex-fbi-bigwig-frank-figliuzzi-says-tackling-domestic-terrorism-may-require-us-to-attack-and-dismantle-people-sitting-in-congress-right-now-video/
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 09, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
Former FBI Assistant Director suggests that to stop these white supremacist extremists, we need to start arresting their leaders in Congress.


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/06/09/ex-fbi-bigwig-frank-figliuzzi-says-tackling-domestic-terrorism-may-require-us-to-attack-and-dismantle-people-sitting-in-congress-right-now-video/

By white supremacist extremist he no doubt means anyone with conservative views.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: dogmush on June 09, 2021, 01:06:35 PM
Former FBI Assistant Director suggests that to stop these white supremacist extremists, we need to start arresting their leaders in Congress.


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/06/09/ex-fbi-bigwig-frank-figliuzzi-says-tackling-domestic-terrorism-may-require-us-to-attack-and-dismantle-people-sitting-in-congress-right-now-video/

Having just finished my DOD mandatory anti-extremism training I can tell you that statement is a Moderate Indicator of being radicalized.  His coworkers might want to report him as a potential threat to see if he has more indicators.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 09, 2021, 01:31:37 PM
Having just finished my DOD mandatory anti-extremism training

Out of curiosity, how did that go? Is it standardized universal training, or can branches / offices modify it (e.g., Navy might have a different syllabus than the Army)?

Did you find it biased to "domestic terrorist white supremacists" as the news seems to report?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 09, 2021, 05:04:09 PM
White Supremacy is so last week.

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Daily Caller
@DailyCaller
BIDEN: "This is not a joke. You what the Joint Chiefs told us the greatest threat facing America was? Global warming."
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/06/09/joe-biden-updates-air-force-personnel-on-the-greatest-threat-facing-america-its-changed-since-last-week/
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: MechAg94 on June 09, 2021, 05:11:23 PM
White Supremacy is so last week.
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/06/09/joe-biden-updates-air-force-personnel-on-the-greatest-threat-facing-america-its-changed-since-last-week/
Funny he brings that up in June rather than October. 
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 09, 2021, 05:13:52 PM
Funny he brings that up in June rather than October.

It's getting warmer! It can only be because of climate change! We're all going to die!
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 09, 2021, 10:04:30 PM
Anyone else ever noticed how often Joe tells his audience that what he's just said is not a joke? He knows no one takes him seriously.  ;/
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: dogmush on June 11, 2021, 11:03:42 AM
Out of curiosity, how did that go? Is it standardized universal training, or can branches / offices modify it (e.g., Navy might have a different syllabus than the Army)?

Did you find it biased to "domestic terrorist white supremacists" as the news seems to report?

Sorry for the delay Ben, I wanted to get to a computer where I could type rather than a mobile device.

The training I had was OK, mostly because I took over from my immediate boss and ran it about halfway through.  DOD mandated 8 hours of training and provided a bunch of resources, but specifically said in the memo the actual training should be pushed to the lowest level practicable to engender good discussions.  I have heard about this being interpreted as "The whole Brigade will sit in a theater for 8 hours of powerpoint" in some cases, which I suspect should be immediately followed by suicide prevention training, 'cause those soldiers want to kill themselves.  As I read the memo and OPORD, that was not the intent of DOD.  The Powers That Be wanted this done by the company level leaders and tailored to the individual formations to try and actually reach people.  Mileage May Vary.

Of the resources provided we got links to a bunch of DOJ and CID reports with vignettes of DOD personnel that had been radicalized recently (last 6 or 7 years) and what caused it, what signs were evident, and how they were caught.  Of those 25 or so stories, 12 or 13 were some version of white supremacy/white nationalism, 6 were islamic extremists, 3 were black nationalists, and 3 or 4 were communists.(the numbers might not add up because there was some overlap with folks having multiple "causes".  One member of the Atomwaffen Division got caught because he converted to islam, pledged to ISIS and shot two of his Atomwaffen buddies.  Crazy going to Crazy, I guess.)  We also got links to TED talks about how people get radicalized, and how people get out of radicalisim.  There was also a DOD link to watch the Netflix movie "The Social Dilemma (https://www.thesocialdilemma.com/)".  Also links to the obligatory Regulations, Policies, and Federal Laws on extremism in the Army as well as powerpoints. Leaders could pick and choose some or all of these resources to craft the 8 hours of training.

My Command (me) chose to do it in 4ea 2 hour sessions over a month.  We watched The Social Dilemma the first one, the TED talks (with discussion) on week two, vignettes, reporting and social media manipulation on week three, and indicators, motivations, and balancing with First Amendment and political freedoms on week 4.  Each session was no more than an hour and a half of "content" followed by discussion on that content.

I definitely have some folks in my team that didn't bring an open mind to the training, which limited how well it could be done.  One guy, over the course of 8 hours would only repeat: "My President said that White Supremacy is the greatest threat facing the nation, and I will report that if I see any."  Like he was giving name, ranks and serial or something.  I'm not sure the training helped him at all.  Ironically he's the most locked into "us vs. them" thinking and dehumanizing others of any of my team, and probably needs the training the most.  there were three or four other teammates that were just checking the box and zoning out.  The rest of us I think had some decent discussions on why people go can go off the deep end, how they get scooped up by predatory people and radicalized, and how to break that chain.

Here's the TED talk playlist we used:
https://www.ted.com/playlists/569/the_roots_of_extremism
"I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left"
"What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids"
"A black man goes undercover in the alt-right"
"How young people join violent extremist groups-and how to stop them"
"How cults rewire the brain"
"A global culture to fight extremism"

I'm sure there are commands out there that threw the powerpoints, recent EO complaints, and CRT into a blender and vomited out 8 hours of "*expletive deleted*ck the white patriarchy" training, but that wasn't what we were supposed to do, and the provided material was certainly able to support a pretty balanced look at all kinds of extremism with just a little work on the trainers part.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 11, 2021, 11:31:37 AM
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One guy, over the course of 8 hours would only repeat: "My President said that White Supremacy is the greatest threat facing the nation, and I will report that if I see any."  Like he was giving name, ranks and serial or something.  I'm not sure the training helped him at all.  Ironically he's the most locked into "us vs. them" thinking and dehumanizing others of any of my team, and probably needs the training the most.

Have you tried a cognitive recalibration?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06TIcoybQ4
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 11, 2021, 12:01:55 PM
Former FBI Assistant Director suggests that to stop these white supremacist extremists, we need to start arresting their leaders in Congress.


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/06/09/ex-fbi-bigwig-frank-figliuzzi-says-tackling-domestic-terrorism-may-require-us-to-attack-and-dismantle-people-sitting-in-congress-right-now-video/


Would someone please inform him that Robert Byrd is no longer in Congress?

(no comment at present regarding the racist in the Oval Office)
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 11, 2021, 04:09:30 PM
Thanks for that write-up, Dogmush. I guess it's good that DOD allowed some leeway in training down to the smaller unit level, which allowed for maybe more diverse discussion than the whole "white supremacist" stuff being pushed in the media by "upper management" as it were. I guess the bad part would be that some lower level leaders might, as you said, embrace that single point though. Overall, still likely better than a strict "standard" you couldn't divert from, since it's probably a good guess what a major focus of that would be.

Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: makattak on June 12, 2021, 07:48:14 AM
One guy, over the course of 8 hours would only repeat: "My President said that White Supremacy is the greatest threat facing the nation, and I will report that if I see any."  Like he was giving name, ranks and serial or something.  I'm not sure the training helped him at all.  Ironically he's the most locked into "us vs. them" thinking and dehumanizing others of any of my team, and probably needs the training the most.  there were three or four other teammates that were just checking the box and zoning out.

These are the only ones who reacted appropriately to the "training".

When your senior leadership has made it perfectly clear1 this training and all other such efforts are to weed "whitey" out of the military and any discussion of "extremism" other than "white supremacy" is a cover for that purpose, "Name, Rank, and Serial Number" are the proper response.

As for the "us vs. him", I believe people when they say they want me dead. It seems your "wayward" soldier is simply more perceptive than you in that regard.

You're pretending this has some actual value, when he rightly sees through the charade.





1: See the original post in this thread, and this  (https://sofrep.com/news/army-ltc-to-troops-if-you-are-a-white-male-youre-part-of-the-problem/) and this (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/06/10/sen_cotton_asks_secdef_lloyd_austin_if_military_is_fundamentally_racist_i_wont_give_you_a_yes_or_no_answer.html#!)
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: RocketMan on June 12, 2021, 11:11:15 AM
Break it down to its fundamental aspect.  CRT is not about ending racism.  It's not about equality.  It's not even about equity.  It's about revenge.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: dogmush on June 12, 2021, 11:26:00 AM
These are the only ones who reacted appropriately to the "training".

When your senior leadership has made it perfectly clear1 this training and all other such efforts are to weed "whitey" out of the military and any discussion of "extremism" other than "white supremacy" is a cover for that purpose, "Name, Rank, and Serial Number" are the proper response.

As for the "us vs. him", I believe people when they say they want me dead. It seems your "wayward" soldier is simply more perceptive than you in that regard.

You're pretending this has some actual value, when he rightly sees through the charade.





1: See the original post in this thread, and this  (https://sofrep.com/news/army-ltc-to-troops-if-you-are-a-white-male-youre-part-of-the-problem/) and this (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/06/10/sen_cotton_asks_secdef_lloyd_austin_if_military_is_fundamentally_racist_i_wont_give_you_a_yes_or_no_answer.html#!)

You are full of *expletive deleted*it, and don't know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: makattak on June 12, 2021, 02:00:03 PM
You are full of *expletive deleted*it, and don't know what you are talking about.

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Again, this is just a few examples. One marine told us that a military history training session was replaced with mandatory training on police brutality, white privilege, and systemic racism. He reported that several officers are now leaving his unit, citing that training.

Another servicemember told us that their unit was required to read White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo, which claims--and this is a quote--white people raised in Western society are conditioned into a white supremacist worldview.

A member of the Special Operations community has told us that they are being instructed that, quote the U.S. Special Operations community is racist. One Army officer relayed to us the words of his general officer who told him that the entire U.S. Army is racist.
A midshipman at the Naval Academy said classmates are calling America a fundamentally racist place, and that this sentiment is not contested by school administrators. An airman told us their unit was forced into a racist exercise called a privilege walk, where members of the wing were ordered to separate themselves by race and gender, in order to stratify people based on their perceived privilege.

One African-American officer disparagingly said, and I quote, the Navy thinks my only value is as a black woman, and not the fact that she is a highly-trained military specialist. Soldiers have come forward to tell us they are being forced to watch videos about systemic racism and documentaries that rewrite America's history as a fundamentally racist and evil nation.

From one of the articles I linked. Is Senator Cotton just making those examples up?

I'm sure you have been quite honest about what your immediate command has told you and what you wanted the purpose of it to be.

I'm also sure you're not the median example of what is being done with this indoctrination.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: dogmush on June 12, 2021, 03:24:29 PM
Perhaps Sen. Cotton is making it up, perhaps the people talking to him made it up (or exaggerated it),  No perhaps about it that in a multi-million person organization we have folks that are racist and taking an opportunity to go off reservation.  None of those things are a good indicator of what "the DOD" is doing.  I work for a 2 star, and was provided the Department of the Army Order directing this, and the DOD memo that order was based on.  Having read what the Secretary Level staff put out my opinion on the purpose and direction of this training is more than "my immediate command".

And also, no you are not "sure you're not the median example of what is being done with this indoctrination".  You are guessing on what is happening based on an information feed that is being curated for you specifically to feed you information that will make you click and keep reading, with no deference given to the veracity of the information.  You get fed lies and half truths designed to make your brain feel outraged so you get addicted to reading more lies and half truths.  We all do.  That's why we're here, and it's why there's so many links to Twitchy on this site.  So we can all feel outraged together.

In this particular case, I actually have the objective truth on what "the DOD" is attempting to do and the direction of the actual "approved" training.  Your suppositions about those are incorrect.  It's not your fault, but you are full of *expletive deleted*it on this one.  So is my soldier, for much the same reason.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: makattak on June 12, 2021, 05:04:16 PM
Perhaps Sen. Cotton is making it up, perhaps the people talking to him made it up (or exaggerated it),  No perhaps about it that in a multi-million person organization we have folks that are racist and taking an opportunity to go off reservation.  None of those things are a good indicator of what "the DOD" is doing.  I work for a 2 star, and was provided the Department of the Army Order directing this, and the DOD memo that order was based on.  Having read what the Secretary Level staff put out my opinion on the purpose and direction of this training is more than "my immediate command".

And also, no you are not "sure you're not the median example of what is being done with this indoctrination".  You are guessing on what is happening based on an information feed that is being curated for you specifically to feed you information that will make you click and keep reading, with no deference given to the veracity of the information.  You get fed lies and half truths designed to make your brain feel outraged so you get addicted to reading more lies and half truths.  We all do.  That's why we're here, and it's why there's so many links to Twitchy on this site.  So we can all feel outraged together.

In this particular case, I actually have the objective truth on what "the DOD" is attempting to do and the direction of the actual "approved" training.  Your suppositions about those are incorrect.  It's not your fault, but you are full of *expletive deleted*it on this one.  So is my soldier, for much the same reason.

No, you have the memo written by the DoD with the input of several JAGs in order to ensure that it comports with the law.

What the bureaucracy has is the individuals chosen to fill out the ranks and implement the legal order. The individuals who know what the real purpose was and are implementing CRT within the military.

How about the Lt.Col who stated that "If you're a white male, you're the problem".  That another one where people are just making it up?

I understand you are really invested in protecting your calling. You have a vested interest in believing that the Army is still the organization it once was and isn't being commandeered for political purposes.

I'll be willing to consider that my impression of the "woke-ing" of the military is mistaken, given the response to the Lt. Col. who hates white people. (I'm well aware he's white, himself.) If he's actually removed from command (I consider that highly unlikely) I'll believe the military isn't as far gone as I thought.

If however, he gets "further training" so he understands he's not supposed to say those parts out loud yet, then I'll consider myself vindicated in my judgement of the military's political subordination.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 15, 2021, 06:12:34 PM
Biden continues on. Again, focus on "white supremacists and militias", and no mention of antifa or others.

Quote
President Joe Biden’s administration on Tuesday unveiled a national security strategy that focuses exclusively on domestic terrorism, naming white supremacists and militia extremists as “the most persistent and lethal threats” to America among ideologies motivating domestic terrorists.

Continuing its broad effort to combat violence from homegrown extremists, the administration published the 32-page strategy and the president vowed to both address the violence and the factors that lead to domestic terrorism.


“We cannot ignore this threat or wish it away. Preventing domestic terrorism and reducing the factors that fuel it demand a multifaceted response across the Federal Government and beyond,” Biden said in the strategy’s introduction.

While domestic terrorist attacks have been a threat to the United States for centuries, officials with the National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism said, a resurgence of the homegrown violence has been seen in recent years, including in the surge of attacks against Jews and the mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas in 2019.

The domestic terrorists of today have a range of motivations, including racial or ethnic bigotry and anti-government sentiment. They can act alone or be part of small, informal groups. Some are part of larger networks.

“Across violent ideologies, individuals and small groups—both formal and informal—have been galvanized by recent political and societal events in the United States to carry out violent attacks. Among that wide range of animating ideologies, racially or ethnically motivated violent extremists (principally those who promote the superiority of the white race) and militia violent extremists are assessed as presenting the most persistent and lethal threats,” officials charged.

More at:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-first-national-security-strategy-has-singular-focus-on-domestic-terrorism_3859713.html
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 15, 2021, 06:19:44 PM
The house is on fire and Joe is on the phone complaining about his cable being out.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: bedlamite on June 15, 2021, 06:35:42 PM
The house is on fire and Joe is on the phone complaining about his cable being out.

Joe doesn't even realize the cable is out.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Andiron on June 15, 2021, 10:08:02 PM
Biden continues on. Again, focus on "white supremacists and militias", and no mention of antifa or others.

More at:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/bidens-first-national-security-strategy-has-singular-focus-on-domestic-terrorism_3859713.html

Does that idiot (or really, his handlers)  want Freikorps here?  Because that's where this is headed.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: TommyGunn on June 15, 2021, 11:29:23 PM
Does that idiot (or really, his handlers)  want Freikorps here?  Because that's where this is headed.

Yea he WANTS  Freikorps here .... Einsatzgruppen as well.  Oh, and Gestapo,  and Hitler Jugend, and ..... the whole Reich   thing.   =(
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 16, 2021, 12:50:06 AM
As is to be expected, Joe has it all backwards. He claimed Antifa was "an idea," when they are of a course a domestic terrorist threat. White supremacy is, of course, merely an idea in the heads of Left-wing blood-libelists. It has had no corporeal form in the U.S. for decades.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 16, 2021, 08:27:31 AM
Actually, I don't know why we (including me) keep saying "Biden is doing this." Biden doesn't know what day it is and can't put one, let alone two sentences together. I'd like to know who all in his administration is actually behind this stuff.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: TommyGunn on June 16, 2021, 09:59:11 AM
Actually, I don't know why we (including me) keep saying "Biden is doing this." Biden doesn't know what day it is and can't put one, let alone two sentences together. I'd like to know who all in his administration is actually behind this stuff.

I agree,  but Biden is still  POTUS  and I'm going to hold him responsible anyway.  No one put a gun to his head and forced him to run for office. 
I'll be perfectly happy parsing out  .... "blame" .... to the real puppet masters when/if they become known.  There's going to be plenty to go around .... enough even for "seconds." >:D
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 16, 2021, 10:01:42 AM
I agree,  but Biden is still  POTUS  and I'm going to hold him responsible anyway.  No one put a gun to his head and forced him to run for office. 
I'll be perfectly happy parsing out  .... "blame" .... to the real puppet masters when/if they become known.  There's going to be plenty to go around .... enough even for "seconds." >:D

Absolutely, the buck stops with Biden, but no way is he coming up with this stuff and ordering staff to follow up on it. Obama might have, but not Biden. Somebody(s) has their hand up Biden's ass and is moving his mouth.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 16, 2021, 10:03:37 AM
Absolutely, the buck stops with Biden, but no way is he coming up with this stuff and ordering staff to follow up on it. Obama might have, but not Biden. Somebody(s) has their hand up Biden's ass and is moving his mouth.

The actual president?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: TommyGunn on June 16, 2021, 10:05:50 AM
Absolutely, the buck stops with Biden, but no way is he coming up with this stuff and ordering staff to follow up on it. Obama might have, but not Biden. Somebody(s) has their hand up Biden's ass and is moving his mouth.

I've heard that the real "puppet master" is Obama through Susan Rice ....but I doubt this would stand up in "court" ..... it's more rumor than fact at this point,  IMO.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 16, 2021, 10:07:32 AM
I've heard that the real "puppet master" is Obama through Susan Rice ....but I doubt this would stand up in "court" ..... it's more rumor than fact at this point,  IMO.

So was 99.9% of the stuff they attacked and twice impeached Trump over
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Cliffh on June 16, 2021, 10:22:28 PM
Actually, I don't know why we (including me) keep saying "Biden is doing this." Biden doesn't know what day it is and can't put one, let alone two sentences together. I'd like to know who all in his administration is actually behind this stuff.

I doubt it's the giggle queen.  She just seems too flighty to be able to come up with her own coherent plans.  Somebody less visible is my guess, maybe a committee?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 17, 2021, 10:30:23 AM
Here's the official WH document.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/National-Strategy-for-Countering-Domestic-Terrorism.pdf

Unless I missed something, all their examples are white. They do mention the congressional baseball shooter, but he was white as well. Their focus seems to be pretty well spelled out in the first three paragraphs under "Today's Threat".

The "assessment" section focuses on violence against minorities and anti-government (read "militias") activity. The document also mentions that militias are illegal. I've never heard that before.

EDIT: I saw it also mentions changes to the SF-86 for security clearances. I wonder if they will be asking people if they are NRA members or how many guns they own, because near the end of the document, they throw in a gun control message. Which might lead a paranoid person to think guys with a lot of guns might be lumped in to "terrorist".
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 17, 2021, 10:45:57 AM

The "assessment" section focuses on violence against minorities and anti-government (read "militias") activity. The document also mentions that militias are illegal. I've never heard that before.


Whoever wrote that might want to review 10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

Quote
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b) The classes of the militia are—

(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 17, 2021, 10:50:54 AM
Whoever wrote that might want to review 10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

I may have interpreted their meaning wrong, so for clarity, here is the quote from the document:

Quote
They also take on a variety
of forms, from lone actors and small groups of informally aligned individuals, to networks
exhorting and targeting violence toward specific communities, to violent self–proclaimed
“militias” who, despite legal prohibitions in all fifty states against certain private militia
activity, assert a baseless right to take the law into their own hands. A]
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on June 17, 2021, 01:41:27 PM
If you find yourself thinking that "white supremacy" might actually be the biggest threat to the government, then you are retarded, derp. It's also possible you have been psychologically manipulated ie brainwashed.

Now, you know inside you, it's not true

The incoherence makes you uncomfortable

But whenever you consider the truth, You know, there is very little threat of white supremacy

Stop believing disgusting lies, it is unhealthy believing lies

Reject the lies and you won't feel the discomfort of incoherence

The whole premise is just stupid. Don't be a dummy.

edited to add: I doubt anyone here really believes that "White Supremacists" are the Greatest Threat to the US.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: RocketMan on June 17, 2021, 03:54:04 PM
White Supremacists = Republicans = Conservatives (skin color and ethnic background notwithstanding).  That's all one really needs to know about who is being targeted as terrorists by this administration.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on June 17, 2021, 04:23:15 PM
White Supremacists = Republicans = Conservatives (skin color and ethnic background notwithstanding).  That's all one really needs to know about who is being targeted as terrorists by this administration.

BLM, the 1619 Project, Critical Race Theory, unfettered illegal and legal immigration policy, asylum policy, pushing the LGBTQ+ agenda are all intended to put the typical normie and "white" population majority on the defensive. It's psychological warfare.

It is now racist and intolerant to point out reality.

If you refuse to go along and pretend you're a bad guy.

 
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: JTHunter on June 17, 2021, 04:53:35 PM
I've heard that the real "puppet master" is Obama through Susan Rice ....but I doubt this would stand up in "court" ..... it's more rumor than fact at this point,  IMO.

Or would the puppet master be more likely to be Soros and his people?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on June 17, 2021, 04:56:17 PM
It's a big club, and we ain't in it.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 18, 2021, 07:39:08 AM
https://youtu.be/7XI4tDCmevQ
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: WLJ on June 18, 2021, 08:34:22 AM
Enter Mayor Lightfoot who will only talk to journalists of certain a race(s).

Quote
Disclose.tv 🚨
@disclosetv
JUST IN - Mayor Lori Lightfoot officially declared racism a "public health emergency" today. Chicago to divert nearly $10 million in COVID funds to address the issue.

‘It is literally killing us’: Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot declares racism a ‘public health emergency’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/17/it-is-literally-killing-us-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-declares-racism-a-public-health-emergency/

She needs to look in a mirror when saying that
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Andiron on June 18, 2021, 09:30:20 PM
Enter Mayor Lightfoot who will only talk to journalists of certain a race(s).

‘It is literally killing us’: Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot declares racism a ‘public health emergency’
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/06/17/it-is-literally-killing-us-chicago-mayor-lori-lightfoot-declares-racism-a-public-health-emergency/

She needs to look in a mirror when saying that

Ah,  Lightfoot. That Jobu looking thing also pushed this:

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-politics/juneteenth-flag-to-fly-above-state-capitol-for-first-time-in-illinois-history-pritzker-announces/2533872/

But wait, there's more.  Hope you like the Pan African rag

https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/06/14/city-hosting-first-juneteenth-flag-raising-ceremony-at-daley-plaza-monday-as-kickoff-to-week-long-celebrations/

*expletive deleted*ck these people.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2021, 08:44:28 AM
Well, I guess I was wrong about this white supremacist militia stuff. They got one:

 https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-cop-shooting-suspect-linked-to-black-militia-group-fbi-joins-manhunt-reports
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: French G. on June 26, 2021, 09:51:51 AM
Well, I guess I was wrong about this white supremacist militia stuff. They got one:

 https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-cop-shooting-suspect-linked-to-black-militia-group-fbi-joins-manhunt-reports

I hope the cop recovers fully. A remarkable escalation since this is the first time NFAC has shot someone not in their membership. Hiding in their treehouse. Hardcore.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ron on June 26, 2021, 11:05:29 AM
It appears it is the official policy of the US government to provoke the "white" and Black populations into violent conflict.

To their credit, so far, very few educated Blacks and only a subset of the low IQ urban Blacks have taken the bait. The white population is either dumbstruck, quietly seething or enthusiastically on board with the program, teaching others how whiteness is evil.

That means more pressure will need to be applied, buckle up.

On tap, more Black outrage and violence, more white disenfranchisement and humiliation.

Coincidentally, a violent event will occur that will reinforce the governments claim that white supremacists are an immanent threat to the safety and security of our diverse nation.   
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 26, 2021, 08:09:13 PM
In another update from Officially White Supremacist Amerikkka, one of the television streaming service thingies (don't recall which one, maybe Peacock) is reminding us that June is Black Music Appreciation month. Apparently, the Carter administration proclaimed this in 1979.

The documentary being advertised, at least from the trailer, seems to be almost completely rap-focused. Maybe a little R&B and Motown thrown in there. I guess the blues and jazz are too white now? ???

Kinda odd to observe it in 2021, when "black music" is a huge industry, and has "white" pop and country following its lead.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Andiron on June 26, 2021, 09:24:17 PM


Coincidentally, a violent event will occur that will reinforce the governments claim that white supremacists are an immanent threat to the safety and security of our diverse nation.   

There's time yet,  but I had that square for tonights Trump rally.  It's in my hometown.  (I live several counties over now,  but still consider it home).  Would not have shocked me at all if some crazy presented itself.  Trump is the shitmagnet of all shitmagnets at this point.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
Here we go. Won't you please help out the FBI and report your domestic terrorist family members?

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/07/11/omg-hide-your-legos-fbi-asking-twitter-to-report-their-friends-and-family-for-suspicious-behavior-backfires/
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 11, 2021, 01:22:30 PM
Here we go. Won't you please help out the FBI and report your domestic terrorist family members?

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/07/11/omg-hide-your-legos-fbi-asking-twitter-to-report-their-friends-and-family-for-suspicious-behavior-backfires/

My U.S. Representative is Corey Bush. Wonder if I should report her?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: MechAg94 on July 11, 2021, 03:41:18 PM
Here we go. Won't you please help out the FBI and report your domestic terrorist family members?

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/07/11/omg-hide-your-legos-fbi-asking-twitter-to-report-their-friends-and-family-for-suspicious-behavior-backfires/
I am sure lots of people know family of FBI agents. 

Not that it has anything to do with this story.   [tinfoil]
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Bogie on July 12, 2021, 12:42:26 AM
So, a question... Is it the biggest threat to the government, or is it the biggest threat to the country?
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: RocketMan on July 12, 2021, 10:38:58 AM
So, a question... Is it the biggest threat to the government, or is it the biggest threat to the country?

The government is the country as far as the government is concerned, so yes.
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: fifth_column on July 12, 2021, 11:56:34 AM
If you see something, say something . . .
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Ben on July 27, 2021, 08:25:13 AM
Big tech has formed a "counterterrorism group" to eliminate "far right" content from their platforms using lists provided by global govs. Again, no mention of far left terrorism.

Quote
A private counterterrorism group formed by the world’s biggest tech companies, including Facebook, Google, and Microsoft, will use lists produced by government intelligence agencies to police content by far-right extremist terrorist organizations, it said in a report.

The database maintained by the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism (GIFCT) has, until recently, focused on videos and images from terrorist groups on a United Nations list, and so has largely consisted of content from Islamist extremist organizations such as ISIS, al Qaeda, and the Taliban.

According to the report released on its website this month, the group said it would target “Five Eyes designated far-right extremist terrorist organizations.”

The group told Reuters that it will now vastly expand its the database using lists generated by Five Eyes—an alliance of government intelligence agencies comprised of Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States—to target white supremacists and militias, including groups like the Proud Boys, the Three Percenters, and neo-Nazis.

More at:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/tech-giants-to-use-govt-intel-list-to-police-content-includes-far-right-terrorist-groups-report_3919905.html
Title: Re: "White Supremacists" Officially the Greatest Threat to the US
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 27, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
Big tech has formed a "counterterrorism group" to eliminate "far right" content from their platforms using lists provided by global govs. Again, no mention of far left terrorism.

More at:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/tech-giants-to-use-govt-intel-list-to-police-content-includes-far-right-terrorist-groups-report_3919905.html

Far left terrorism is just an idea.

Also, it earns you a place in future Democratic administrations.