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Title: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on July 09, 2021, 05:24:23 PM
Here we go again
Don't know if you've kept up with the news from Haiti but their President was just assassinated, in his own home no less, and the country is in turmoil

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Alex Plitsas 🇺🇸
@alexplitsas
BREAKING: Haitian Government Officials have requested U.S. military forces to protect the port, airport, gasoline, and other critical infrastructure to help stabilize the country following the assassination of Haiti’s President via @nytimes

BREAKING: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/07/09/breaking-haiti-asks-for-u-s-troops-to-help-stabilize-the-country/
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: MillCreek on July 09, 2021, 05:28:55 PM
I see also that of the persons captured after the assassination, a couple of them are Haitian-Americans, and at least six used to be in the Columbian Army.  I will be interested to see the reason for the assassination.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 09, 2021, 05:46:17 PM
The 2nd time today this sentiment seems appropriate -

Lift off and nuke the site from high orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: dogmush on July 09, 2021, 09:28:31 PM
Fuuuuuuuuck that.

I've been to Port-au-Prince once in uniform. There's nothing there we need, and nothing we can fix.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 10, 2021, 12:21:48 AM
Fuuuuuuuuck that.

I've been to Port-au-Prince once in uniform. There's nothing there we need, and nothing we can fix.

Not so fast - we can teach them about white rage and pronouns.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Nick1911 on July 10, 2021, 12:28:17 AM
Yea...

Facts:
Haiti is a sovereign nation.
Instability in Haiti does not present a global/US security issue. (Loose nuke, etc)

Conclusion:
It would be inappropriate for the united states or any other country to deploy military force in response to the internal affairs of another sovereign nation.  The people of Haiti have the right to determine their own destiny free of outside influences.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: HeroHog on July 10, 2021, 12:29:13 AM
Drop in the Drag Queen battalion and the Binary-Fluid Space Ninjas.  [tinfoil] [popcorn] :old:
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 12:40:58 AM

Conclusion:
It would be inappropriate for the united states or any other country to deploy military force in response to the internal affairs of another sovereign nation.  The people of Haiti have the right to determine their own destiny free of outside influences.

When has that ever stopped us?
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 12:42:51 AM
Drop in the Drag Queen battalion and the Binary-Fluid Space Ninjas.  [tinfoil] [popcorn] :old:

Armed them with Be Kind signs since guns are icky
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Nick1911 on July 10, 2021, 12:44:06 AM
When has that ever stopped us?

Well... it really should, in my opinion.  But maybe that's why I'm not in control of such things.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Fly320s on July 10, 2021, 06:56:17 AM
Well... it really should, in my opinion.  But maybe that's why I'm not in control of such things, yet.

Fixed.

We know that you have plans.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Pb on July 10, 2021, 07:45:50 AM
Remember when Trump outraged all right thinking people by calling Haiti a @$!#hole?

And Conan O'Brien took a vacation in Haiti to prove what a wonderful country it was...

I do.

Here's a tweet that hasn't aged well:

https://twitter.com/conanobrien/status/955100835784077314
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Jim147 on July 10, 2021, 10:37:15 AM
You need to know when to say "Not my fing problem!"
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 10, 2021, 11:15:10 AM
Remember when Trump outraged all right thinking people by calling Haiti a @$!#hole?

And Conan O'Brien took a vacation in Haiti to prove what a wonderful country it was...

I do.

Here's a tweet that hasn't aged well:

https://twitter.com/conanobrien/status/955100835784077314

Heh.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUE4sujVoAAo4Qc?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:23:24 AM
Many of the troops we send will feel right at home.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: dogmush on July 10, 2021, 09:47:37 PM
Many of the troops we send will feel right at home.

This seems like it falls under the UN's umbrella. Doesn't Somolia have some troops we can slap a blue helmet on and ship to Haiti?
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: MechAg94 on July 10, 2021, 11:31:34 PM
Yea...

Facts:
Haiti is a sovereign nation.
Instability in Haiti does not present a global/US security issue. (Loose nuke, etc)

Conclusion:
It would be inappropriate for the united states or any other country to deploy military force in response to the internal affairs of another sovereign nation.  The people of Haiti have the right to determine their own destiny free of outside influences.
I agree with that last.  They need to clean up their own mess.  Using outside influence to clean it up doesn't solve the problem.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2021, 11:46:50 PM
This seems like it falls under the UN's umbrella. Doesn't Somolia have some troops we can slap a blue helmet on and ship to Haiti?

They would loot the the place
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 11, 2021, 12:40:11 AM
Remember when Trump outraged all right thinking people by calling Haiti a @$!#hole?

And Conan O'Brien took a vacation in Haiti to prove what a wonderful country it was...

I do.

Here's a tweet that hasn't aged well:

https://twitter.com/conanobrien/status/955100835784077314

Heh. I didn't know he did that. "Let them sip expensive liquors from a hollowed-out fruit, whilst sea-bathing at a posh resort."
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 11, 2021, 07:59:59 AM
They would loot the the place

Did the Clintons leave anything to loot?
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Pb on July 11, 2021, 08:16:58 AM
Heh. I didn't know he did that. "Let them sip expensive liquors from a hollowed-out fruit, whilst sea-bathing at a posh resort."

The resort Conan stayed at was a few miles from one the world's largest slums.  He didn't go there.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 11, 2021, 03:07:44 PM
The resort Conan stayed at was a few miles from one the world's largest slums.  He didn't go there.

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Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Boomhauer on July 11, 2021, 03:29:29 PM
The resort Conan stayed at was a few miles from one the world's largest slums.  He didn't go there.

Little suprise there.


I have been to a few foreign cities/countries in the Western Carribean. Belize City was probably the worst. We took a city tour where the “prosperous” area of the city was like inner city Detroit or LA and the shantytown slums was absolutely horrifying as to the condition people were living in. Outside of the waterfront and resorts Cozumel is a very rough city that looks very nasty.

Places like that earn the shithole title. You won’t catch any American leftist in those areas either.

Each and every one of those countries
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: BobR on July 11, 2021, 04:10:09 PM
Little suprise there.


I have been to a few foreign cities/countries in the Western Carribean. Belize City was probably the worst. We took a city tour where the “prosperous” area of the city was like inner city Detroit or LA and the shantytown slums was absolutely horrifying as to the condition people were living in. Outside of the waterfront and resorts Cozumel is a very rough city that looks very nasty.

Places like that earn the shithole title. You won’t catch any American leftist in those areas either.

Each and every one of those countries

When we were flying out of Djibouti in the 80/90s we would stay in our 90 dollar a night fancy hotel with a casino in the basement. On the way in for an early morning preflight you had to be careful not to run over any lumps on the road, it could be people sleeping on the asphalt to stay warm. I also saw people living in large bushes with cardboard shoved in them to provide walls. There was a nice small area in town where the French Foreign Legion and other foreigners could get some decent food and drink. The rest of the city was a shithole. I imagine once they built that military base there a lot of people's fortunes changed while the abjectly poor stayed that way. There are shitholes all over the world.

bob
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: gunsmith on July 11, 2021, 04:22:48 PM
the good news is it is a lot closer than Viet Nam
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: RoadKingLarry on July 11, 2021, 09:19:07 PM
The only downside to the US not getting involved is that if we don't China and/or Russia (or maybe Cuba) will.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2021, 09:21:32 PM
The only downside to the US not getting involved is that if we don't China and/or Russia (or maybe Cuba) will.

It appears Cuba is having some trouble of their own.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: BobR on July 11, 2021, 09:22:46 PM
The only downside to the US not getting involved is that if we don't China and/or Russia (or maybe Cuba) will.

I wonder if the Dominican Republic is doing anything, other than beefing up their border guards of course. ;)

bob
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Andiron on July 11, 2021, 09:57:37 PM
I wonder if the Dominican Republic is doing anything, other than beefing up their border guards of course. ;)

bob

Borders are racist, doesn't the DR know that?
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: French G. on July 11, 2021, 10:28:45 PM
Fuuuuuuuuck that.

I've been to Port-au-Prince once in uniform. There's nothing there we need, and nothing we can fix.

Did you get a ride from us? My last ship LHA-4 went down there to pick up a bunch of engineer types, SEABEEs and some Army. I had not enough shots to go ashore, didn't see anything from anchorage that made me want to go either.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: fifth_column on July 12, 2021, 11:55:49 AM
The only downside to the US not getting involved is that if we don't China and/or Russia (or maybe Cuba) will.

Used to be that the US would deploy troops in order to keep socialism from taking root, now it seems likely the opposite is true . . .
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: dogmush on July 12, 2021, 12:18:12 PM
Did you get a ride from us? My last ship LHA-4 went down there to pick up a bunch of engineer types, SEABEEs and some Army. I had not enough shots to go ashore, didn't see anything from anchorage that made me want to go either.

Nah, we took the Army boats over. Supposed to deliver humanitarian supplies, ended in a shitshow that had my HMMWV cursed with a chicken sacrifice.

Used to be that the US would deploy troops in order to keep socialism from taking root, now it seems likely the opposite is true . . .

And how'd those deployments work out for us?  Communism is the collective form of heroin: Doesn't matter how much outside help there is, until the addict wants to quit, they won't.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: kgbsquirrel on July 12, 2021, 01:46:05 PM
Nah, we took the Army boats over. Supposed to deliver humanitarian supplies, ended in a shitshow that had my HMMWV cursed with a chicken sacrifice.



How'd the humvees machine spirit respond?  Hope it kicked the hoodoo demon's ass.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 13, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
One of the alleged assassins is a DEA snitch:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/dea-confirms-former-informant-arrested-in-haitian-presidents-assassination_3899463.html

Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on August 03, 2021, 08:49:08 AM
Wait for it

Family Guy Godzilla Haiti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBkGbMlXw0M
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on August 15, 2021, 08:29:34 AM
And poor old Haiti gets sucker punched

More than 300 killed after 7.2 magnitude earthquake rocks Haiti
https://www.wlky.com/article/earthquake-strikes-near-haiti/37307781
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 15, 2021, 08:49:31 AM
I'm sure the Clinton's will be along to save the day...
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: JTHunter on August 15, 2021, 07:38:11 PM
The news tonight had the toll at over 700.
And with a tropical storm on its way too.
  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: gunsmith on August 15, 2021, 08:43:57 PM
The news tonight had the toll at over 700.
And with a tropical storm on its way too.
  :facepalm:

man, talk about bad luck - what a bummer it must be to be trapped in that place
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: kgbsquirrel on August 15, 2021, 09:30:48 PM
And poor old Haiti gets sucker punched

More than 300 killed after 7.2 magnitude earthquake rocks Haiti
https://www.wlky.com/article/earthquake-strikes-near-haiti/37307781

How many die each day just from it being a *expletive deleted*it hole?
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Pb on August 16, 2021, 01:39:07 PM
Nah, we took the Army boats over. Supposed to deliver humanitarian supplies, ended in a shitshow that had my HMMWV cursed with a chicken sacrifice.


Please, tell us more....   :O
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: WLJ on April 25, 2023, 08:56:52 AM
Sounds like they're getting fed up

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This is the horrifying moment suspected Haitian gang members beg for mercy before a vigilante lynch mob stones and burns them alive.

The mob beat and burned 13 men to death with gasoline-soaked tyres on Monday after pulling them from police custody at a traffic stop, police and witnesses in the capital Port-au-Prince said.

Six more burned bodies were seen in a nearby neighbourhood later on in the day, and witnesses claimed to have seen police kill them before residents set them on fire. News agencies said this could not be verified.

Moment 'gang members' beg for mercy before vigilante lynch mob stones them and burns them alive among petrol-soaked tyres in the streets in Haiti
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12011009/Haiti-Gang-members-beg-mercy-vigilante-lynch-mob-stones-burns-alive.html
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: K Frame on April 25, 2023, 09:12:55 AM
Sounds like they're getting fed up

Moment 'gang members' beg for mercy before vigilante lynch mob stones them and burns them alive among petrol-soaked tyres in the streets in Haiti
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12011009/Haiti-Gang-members-beg-mercy-vigilante-lynch-mob-stones-burns-alive.html


And the people of Democratically run cities across the United States start taking notes...
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 25, 2023, 04:21:23 PM

And the people of Democratically run cities across the United States start taking notes...

Wouldn't be the first time Democrats got nervous about a Haitian-style revolt spreading to their own plantations.
Title: Re: Haiti asks for U.S. troops to help stabilize the country
Post by: Kingcreek on April 25, 2023, 04:47:41 PM
I wonder if it was a better place when Papa Doc and then Baby Doc Duvalier ran it.