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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Brad Johnson on September 09, 2021, 10:07:42 AM
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Trailer dropped this morning.
https://youtu.be/Fgt8IZkKkFU
The original is a guilty pleasure. Reloaded was okay. Revolution was corny and a little off the rails, but decently entertaining if you've nothing else to watch. This looks... okay? Maybe even a little better than okay? Have to admit the trailer has my attention.
IMDB shows a lot of OG cast returning, though with a few obvious omissions.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10838180/
Judging by Lawrence Fishburn's ample physique in Ant Man and Wasp, he no longer has the look or physicality to pull off Morpheus. Hugo Weaving's Agent Smith would have been a nice call back, even if it was only something they played as a passing gag, maybe a voice from some machine that made Neo stop and turn.
Brad
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Hopefully that's not the best 2.5 minutes in the film.
White Rabbit is a nice touch. "The ones that mother gives you, never do anything at all."
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The trailer didn't do much for me.
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I was "multitasking" the other day and had youtube on the TV running random videos. Wasn't paying too close attention and thought it was a John Wick/matrix crossover trailer at first. :rofl:
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It looks interesting. Wachowski movis are hit or miss for me, but some I really like.
If I have caved and paid for HBO Max by December, I'd watch it. Probably won't trek to a theater though.
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They should have stopped at the original. The 2nd and 3rd were progressively worse and pretty much abandoned the goal from the first.
Looking at this trailer, I can't tell exactly what it is. Be interesting to find out. Looks like it will be better than a lot of other stuff lately.
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My ratings: #1, 10/10
#2, 8/10. The highway chase set to Mona Lisa Overdrive by Juno Reactor tips that scale heavily.
#3, 6/10. Setpiece action scenes were too frenetic and not personal in nature. Mechs vs. squiddies primarily, if I recall correctly.
I'm cautiously optimistic about #4. Neo's apparent amnesia is a suspicious trope, though having indulged in the same in my own writing, I'm willing to give it a shot.
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I agree that the original stands alone as a seminal work.
But White Rabbit got me going, and the chemistry between Reeves and Moss looks good. I'll go see this in the theater.
I'm holding out hope for Weaving to show up in it despite not being present in the trailer, but I admit I haven't done any research to see if he made cast at all for it.
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So I guess Agent Smith kills his dog in this one?
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They should have stopped at the original.
Agreed.
The 2nd and 3rd were progressively worse and pretty much abandoned the goal from the first.
Looking at this trailer, I can't tell exactly what it is. Be interesting to find out. Looks like it will be better than a lot of other stuff lately.
Getting the Band back together (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRv-KejLIo0)?
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Possible spoiler alert
Spoiler mode on
I think almost everyone missed the hints in the originals that there is a matrix within a matrix possibly within a matrix with the "real" world itself one of those matrixes. Clues were dropped here and there. Listen carefully to what the architect says. It would also explain how Nero suddenly had powers in the "real" world and why he could still see despite being blinded.
Don't ask me to list the clues as it been a long time since I've seen the movies.
Spoiler mode off
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They should have stopped at the original. The 2nd and 3rd were progressively worse and pretty much abandoned the goal from the first.
This.
I have no interest at all watching them rape the corpse of that franchise for money.
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Possible spoiler alert
Spoiler mode on
I think almost everyone missed the hints in the originals that there is a matrix within a matrix possibly within a matrix with the "real" world itself one of those matrixes. Clues were dropped here and there. Listen carefully to what the architect says. It would also explain how Nero suddenly had powers in the "real" world and why he could still see despite being blinded.
Don't ask me to list the clues as it been a long time since I've seen the movies.
Spoiler mode off
I have heard that before. It sounds neat. But just like the multiverse in Marvel, it could be cool, but in reality they will screw it up and it will be a disaster. The quality of Hollywood writeing seems to be pretty low these days.
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I gotta see it. The original was the best for sure but the rest provided more info to backward interpret the original. If you want to be really depressing you could end this new one with Reaves back as a battery, in fact never left, just a whole bunch of buggy patches and updates the machines tried to install.
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I think almost everyone missed the hints in the originals that there is a matrix within a matrix possibly within a matrix with the "real" world itself one of those matrixes. Clues were dropped here and there. Listen carefully to what the architect says. It would also explain how Nero suddenly had powers in the "real" world and why he could still see despite being blinded.
Don't ask me to list the clues as it been a long time since I've seen the movies.
Watched #2 and #3, once only, long ago. Details are fuzzy. I wasn't paying that much attention, because I figured they were just BS-ing their way to an end to the saga, milking the franchise.
WRT the first movie, I've thought for a while it should have ended with everyone in the hovercraft Nebuchadnezzar's* control deck, congratulating themselves on surviving. The old landline phone rings. Neo picks it up and and answers. Neo disappears, poof. And we're back to being not quite sure where in the stack of worlds and simulations we really are.
*spell Czech doesn't flag the name of a 5th century BC Babylonian emperor. Interesting.
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THE MATRIX 4 RESURRECTIONS "Agent Smith Returns" Trailer 3 (NEW 2021) Keanu Reeves Action Movie HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmKZV1USiks
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The rave party pretty much tanked it for me. Overall, it was a good popcorn action thing, with individual things that were pretty cool... The car chase, Sonny Chiba, and so on...
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I could be good. I just have low expectations. Maybe that is for the best.
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SWMBO mentioned she doesn't remember ever seeing the original. That's a good excuse to spin it up this weekend. I have the remastered 4K set and haven't had a chance to watch it yet. It's supposed to be stellar.
Brad
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I actually watched part of the 1st one on my flight from San Diego to Detroit yesterday. Planning on watching it again this eve while wife does homework
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SWMBO mentioned she doesn't remember ever seeing the original. That's a good excuse to spin it up this weekend. I have the remastered 4K set and haven't had a chance to watch it yet. It's supposed to be stellar.
Brad
I need to see if I have a copy. A 4K version would be good. I have been trying to collect physical media of the best movies (in my lifetime at least). Got Terminator, Predator, and Zulu recently.
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I need to see if I have a copy. A 4K version would be good.
Trilogy in 4K UHD shows in stock and priced $48 as of today.
https://www.amazon.com/Matrix-Trilogy-UHD-BD-Blu-ray/dp/B07G2CJP6C/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=matrix+4k&qid=1639153322&sr=8-2
Brad
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Stuff like this doesn't bode well
The Matrix Resurrections, despite (and because of) its infinite goofiness, is the boldest & most vividly personal Hollywood sequel since The Last Jedi. a silly/sincere galaxy brain take on reboot culture that makes peace with how modern blockbusters are now only about themselves.
— david ehrlich (@davidehrlich) December 17, 2021
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/12/the-matrix-resurrections-first-reactions-1234686455/
"the boldest & most vividly personal Hollywood sequel since The Last Jedi", yeah.... :facepalm:
Some review are describing it as a comedy :facepalm:
The Matrix Resurrections reviews compare it to The Last Jedi?! Likely to be CRUSHED by Spider-Man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhGWqeYOFE8
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Stuff like this doesn't bode well
https://www.indiewire.com/2021/12/the-matrix-resurrections-first-reactions-1234686455/
"the boldest & most vividly personal Hollywood sequel since The Last Jedi", yeah.... :facepalm:
Some review are describing it as a comedy :facepalm:
The Matrix Resurrections reviews compare it to The Last Jedi?! Likely to be CRUSHED by Spider-Man!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhGWqeYOFE8
I'd only compare a movie to The Last Jedi as a baseline for complete *expletive deleted*it.
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Yikes
The Matrix Resurrections DESERVES to die at the box office! One of the WORST movies I’ve ever seen!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl2mtpe13WU
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The Critical Drinker reviews "The Matrix Regurgitations" :rofl:
How the blazing heck did this mess get green lighted???
Lots of spoilers. But at this point I don't care myself.
The Matrix Resurrections Should Never Have Been Made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8n8WdpW9tA
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It's not as bad as all THAT. It's not great though. In terms of enjoyment I'd put it between #2 and #3, but I was pretty disappointed in #3.
It's a pretty forgettable action movie, and as the Drinker they at least manage to roll through this without destroying the characters from the original. There's some nice visuals, and the "upgrades" to the hovercraft, and matrix in/out mechanics are kinda neat. The storyline is just straightforward action without any pretext of the philosophical depths of the original movie. Again referencing the Drinkers video, I didn't even see the "life is not a binary choice" theme as clearly as he did. It came off like a passing comment.
slight spoiler:
There's a scene towards the beginning where Neo and his business partner are having a meeting. In this world the first three Matrix movies were video games written by Neo 20 years past. The partner says that they are going to do a sequel to those games, and then says something like: "Look, I know you said you were done with that story, and were never going back there, but our parent company, Warner Brothers, [he actually namedrops WB] has made it clear that they are going to do this sequel with or without us, so we might as well do it." Then there's a montage of trying to come up with ideas for the Matrix 4. The Drinker thinks it's a lazy attempt to be meta, but I really got the feeling that it was Wachowski straight up telling the audience that there was no good plan, no good story, and nothing left to say. What follows is a competent, paint by numbers action flick.
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Doesn't sound like it is worth my time or money.
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If you don't already have HBO Max, I wouldn't bother.
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slight spoiler:
, but I really got the feeling that it was Wachowski straight up telling the audience that there was no good plan, no good story, and nothing left to say. What follows is a competent, paint by numbers action flick.
Heard about that. "We're going to do it, with or without you."
Yeah, not hearing much good about it.
So, maybe I'll just keep playing the trailers, and imagine the good and interesting story that could have been told.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHCsz78GfYg
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If you don't already have HBO Max, I wouldn't bother.
I agree.
I watched it on HBO Max. It was okay. I was on my ipad and cleaned a couple pistols while it was on so I guess I can say it did not keep my attention all that well.
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It was an obvious attempt to cash in on the franchise. Keanu Reeves presented a performance as thrilling as a plain cardboard box.
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I, for one,
embrace our new alien overlords am intrigued by the "meta" aspect of the film, and will watch it when it's most financially advantageous for me.
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Keanu Reeves presented a performance as thrilling as a plain cardboard box.
Which is his standard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fUnHXF1sEA
Just Some Guy did a review. It is full of spoilers, but I like his introduction in the first minute.
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Well, at least it didn't subvert my expectations about it being absolute garbage. If you must watch this one, I recommend sailing the high seas. Paying money to see this should be a crime.
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Watching it now. HBO is part of my ATT so sort of paying for it. Wow this is bad.
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Watched it today, meh. They could have quit after the first movie.
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Wish they had gone with the machine civil war idea where one side was allied with the humans instead.
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Wish they had gone with the machine civil war idea where one side was allied with the humans instead.
That would have at least been something new instead of a rehash.
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They could have quit after the first movie.
Absolutely. This is true of a lot of franchises, both movie and TV.
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You don't have to like his acting, but It's too bad more actors aren't like Keanu Reeves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvQcNoH80Uw
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I've worked with people who looked at money as a way of keeping score.
The best researchers looked at patents and journal articles as their scoreboard.
And we met some patients.
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Heard about that. "We're going to do it, with or without you."
Yeah, not h, not hearing much good about it.
So, maybe I'll just keep playing the trailers, and imagine the good and interesting story that could have been told.
I actually did see someone saying some good things about it.
The YouToob "Living Well With Schizophrenia (https://www.youtube.com/c/LivingWellwithSchizophrenia/about)" channel, thought it was a good portrayal of psychosis. This, from someone whose been there & done that. (I started watching her last summer when my wife was having her "issues".)
Why you should (or maybe shouldn't) watch the new Matrix: Ressurections (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv2nf2Vx3Nc)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA1qb1tkKNo
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Watched it tonight while SWMBO was having Girlz Night with her niece. Actually enjoyed it. Nicely meta with decent action, great visuals, and kick ass audio. A solid 2nd place in series rank.
Brad