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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: MillCreek on September 12, 2021, 03:27:58 PM
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https://roofmaxx.com/
I have never heard of this until last week, when ads for it started in my Facebook feed. It claims to rejuvenate your asphalt shingles by spraying them with a food-safe plant-oil solution, to replace the asphalt oils that degrade over time.
Is anyone familiar with this?
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Sounds like the old "We were doing a job in your neighborhood and had enough left over to re-do your driveway." So instead of a layer of fresh asphalt they just spray it with oil so it looks good, and you were gypped.
Question 1: "What are the symptoms which indicate that 'rejuvenation' is needed?"
Terry "fool me once," 230RN
REF (Indirect but relevant):
https://www.bbb.org/article/news-releases/22467-bbbb-scam-alert-watch-out-for-free-roof-inspections
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Sounds like complete bullshit to me to separate you from your money
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Sounds like complete bullshit to me to separate you from your money
QFT
If the asphalt is degraded, it's degraded. There's no magic oil that can un-degrade it. Anything with enough solvent properties to soften asphalt will likely evaporate off quickly, probably leaving the shingles less structurally sound in the process. Most likely you'll just end up with an oily roof.
Brad
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Wouldn't spraying the roof with a bunch of kerosene accomplish the same thing? Sounds just as promising. ;)
bob
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QFT
If the asphalt is degraded, it's degraded. There'a no magic oil that can un-degrade ii.
Brad
Yeah, that.
Watching their video, it seems it's all about "saving the environment" by not putting waste into landfills and "using the Earth's resources" more than it is about helping your roof. The video says that they're using soy oil to do this, so sounds kinda hippie dippy to me.
Also, their example is $10K for a new roof or $2K for their treatment, which they say lasts five years. Even on a 30 year roof, if you amortize you are better off just spending the $10K for a new roof. Or spend $12K and get a 50 year roof, and other than stuff like storm damage, don't worry about it for the rest of your life.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=soy+oil+asphalt+shingles&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS970US970&sxsrf=AOaemvIMyEYaGHlMrwGnmSClkFG5XOtBPw%3A1631487094119&ei=doQ-YbXmBtnB0PEP_I-HeA&oq=soy+oil+asphalt+shingles&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKsCOgcIABBHELADOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgUIIRCgAUoECEEYAFCkggFYxI0BYNWPAWgBcAJ4AYAB1AGIAasGkgEFOC4wLjGYAQCgAQHIAQTAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwi1-cyFw_ryAhXZIDQIHfzHAQ8Q4dUDCA4&uact=5
Some interesting links. The technology is based on soybean research out of Ohio.
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Why not just paint your roof with Flex Seal?????
:rofl:
Jokes aside, I've had friends say they have had pretty good results from using Flex Seal paint to waterproof things.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=soy+oil+asphalt+shingles&newwindow=1&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS970US970&sxsrf=AOaemvIMyEYaGHlMrwGnmSClkFG5XOtBPw%3A1631487094119&ei=doQ-YbXmBtnB0PEP_I-HeA&oq=soy+oil+asphalt+shingles&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKsCOgcIABBHELADOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgUIIRCgAUoECEEYAFCkggFYxI0BYNWPAWgBcAJ4AYAB1AGIAasGkgEFOC4wLjGYAQCgAQHIAQTAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwi1-cyFw_ryAhXZIDQIHfzHAQ8Q4dUDCA4&uact=5
Some interesting links. The technology is based on soybean research out of Ohio.
The problem with those links is that most of them are from the soybean industry, enviro sites, and "X" roofers who happen to also apply the product. I'd be interested in reading some consumer oriented reviews.
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People put flex seal into cars. Don't even get me started.
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Why not just paint your roof with Flex Seal?????
:rofl:
Ding ding ding !
Jokes aside, I've had friends say they have had pretty good results from using Flex Seal paint to waterproof things.
OK if you don't mind a 125 foot giant clomping around the neighborhood.
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There's apparently some truth to the effectiveness of these rejuenators. They can restore SOME flexibility to dried out asphalt. There are similar products for road asphalt.
The big question is, however, is it cost effective?
That I can't answer.
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So it's basically veg oil?
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn2.bigcommerce.com%2Fn-arxsrf%2Fnfi4wj%2Fproducts%2F102%2Fimages%2F319%2FFROGLUBE_LIQUID_1_GAL__39240.1391401065.1280.1280.jpg%3Fc%3D2&f=1&nofb=1)
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There's apparently some truth to the effectiveness of these rejuenators. They can restore SOME flexibility to dried out asphalt. There are similar products for road asphalt.
I would guess that once it's applied, the roof looks new. However you could say the same for Armor All applied to your car's interior or tires. It looks good for a short while, but if you don't continually reapply it, that stuff looks as bad or worse than before the treatment. I'm wondering about the actual longevity of the Roof Maxx. Maybe there are images of roofs that were treated with it and how they look a couple of years later.
I still submit that even if it is physically effective, and lasts the five years that they claim, that in most instances it would be more fiscally effective to throw the thousands of dollars into a new roof.
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"I would guess that once it's applied, the roof looks new."
It's not so much that the roof "looks" new (remember, if the roof is old, you've been losing the granulation on it as well as flexibility)...
Think of it this way... it's like Lexol for asphalt compounds.
I've seen the analog compound used on roadway asphalt. Does it return the asphalt to as-new condition? No. Does it help extend the asphalt's lifespan by returning some flexibility to it? It seems to.
"I still submit that even if it is physically effective, and lasts the five years that they claim, that in most instances it would be more fiscally effective to throw the thousands of dollars into a new roof."
I'm neither agreeing or disagreeing with that.
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https://www.askthebuilder.com/roof-maxx-review/ a rival roof protecting product inventor reviews roof-maxx. I'm not sure if this guy in the link is selling anything worth while, I just thought it was interesting.
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My next roof? Gonna be metal. I think I can do it with one other guy.
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I grew up in a house with a metal roof that had been installed in probably the 1920s.
It was in extremely good condition when Mom and Dad moved out in 1999.
A few years ago I was passing through town and... it had been shingled.
My guess? Someone sold the homeowners a complete and total bill of goods. The house was huge, the roof was probably a total of 30 to 40 square or more with the hips, valleys, and ridges. That was not a cheap job.
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A long time ago residential housing for the University of Colorado (CU) was Quonset huts. A couple Wife1 and I knew lived in one.
When it rained or hailed the noise was terrific. He used to put an oscillating lawn sprinkler on the roof to keep it cool. Really funny to hear the water "walk" back and forth on the roof.
Most of the buildings at CU have red tiled roofs. I was going to suggest that.
(https://ludowici.com/wp-content/uploads/University-of-Colorado-Boulder-1.jpg)
Terry, 230RN
Pic credit in properties
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My next roof? Gonna be metal. I think I can do it with one other guy.
We had a metal roof installed year before last. We were quoted ~$7k for a 30 year shingle, ~$10k for the metal roof. Since we'd had a "30 year" shingle installed about 10 years prior, we opted for the metal roof.
I don't know if it's helped insulate the house - we had new windows & AC installed at the same time - but our electric bill has dropped by ~30% this summer.
It is noisier than a comp roof in the rain and hail. Not uncomfortably so, it's actually sort of nice - I'm inside, toasty warm while nature's having her way outside.
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Quonset Hut housing was a thing at many universities after WW II. The massive influx of students exercising their GI Bill benefits (many students were also married with families) caused severe housing shortages all across the country.
But, not only were they used for housing, they were also used for classrooms.
Neat article about Quonset huts at University of North Carolina.
https://blogs.lib.unc.edu/uarms/2017/06/05/a-can-for-all-seasons-quonset-huts-at-postwar-unc/
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An even more interesting article about the Quonset hut that talks about its various designs and development phases and its post war use...
https://lynceans.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Quonset-huts-converted.pdf
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I don't remember hearing about those huts at Texas A&M. However, I did get to drive on the old air field that was considered part of the campus (some miles away). Great for automotive test runs.
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I don't remember hearing about those huts at Texas A&M. However, I did get to drive on the old air field that was considered part of the campus. Great for automotive test runs.
I vaguely remember there were Quonset huts at Texas A&M in the late 70's, that's where I learned the name of them, but I don't remember where exactly nor what they were used for.
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There were Quonsets at UC Santa Barbara as well. During WW2, the campus (or at least campus land) was connected to the airport and had a military presence waiting for the Japanese to land. :laugh:
In fact the fist attack on US soil in WW2 occurred there. In Ellwood actually, where I lived. My condo complex was around 400 yards from the golf course.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/monument-to-the-bombardment-of-ellwood
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There were still Quonset huts at MCRD San Diego when I went through boot camp there in 1974. We were housed in a Quonset hut for two weeks just after returning from ITS at Camp Pendleton, before starting Third Phase.
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There were still Quonset huts at MCRD San Diego when I went through boot camp there in 1974. We were housed in a Quonset hut for two weeks just after returning from ITS at Camp Pendleton, before starting Third Phase.
They were still there in '75 when I went through.
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https://roofmaxx.com/
I have never heard of this until last week, when ads for it started in my Facebook feed. It claims to rejuvenate your asphalt shingles by spraying them with a food-safe plant-oil solution, to replace the asphalt oils that degrade over time.
Is anyone familiar with this?
It actually says "bio-oil". If it IS a plant based oil, what do you do when that oil becomes rancid and you roof stinks to high heavens?
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It actually says "bio-oil". If it IS a plant based oil, what do you do when that oil becomes rancid and you roof stinks to high heavens?
Feed it to the raccoons.
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Feed it to the raccoons.
=D :laugh: :rofl:
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There were Quonsets at UC Santa Barbara as well. During WW2, the campus (or at least campus land) was connected to the airport and had a military presence waiting for the Japanese to land. :laugh:
In fact the fist attack on US soil in WW2 occurred there. In Ellwood actually, where I lived. My condo complex was around 400 yards from the golf course.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/monument-to-the-bombardment-of-ellwood
You mean the Japs attacked a golf course?! Savages. :mad: