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Title: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 06, 2021, 08:17:56 AM
I just felt like starting a new topic. I am cracking up at "Let's go Brandon" just because it make CNN look like even bigger sycophantic asshats, and everyone embracing the phrase to make fun of 46 is just a pleasure to see.  :laugh:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/10/06/watch-joe-biden-greeted-with-a-lets-go-brandon-chant-in-michigan/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on October 06, 2021, 08:39:20 AM
Their successful gaslighting of the public on so many other subjects has made them overconfident.

Yet, there will probably be folks, like the Democrat Underground folks, that will believe the lie despite what their ears tell them.

 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 06, 2021, 08:42:22 AM
I had to look it up

‘Let’s Go Brandon’ meme explained as crowd chant blunder goes viral
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/10/05/lets-go-brandon-meme/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: charby on October 06, 2021, 08:42:29 AM
The video for all of you that are wondering wtf

https://twitter.com/i/status/1444460915802484737
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 06, 2021, 08:45:43 AM
Oh yeah, NBC, not CNN. Same thing though.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 06, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
I wonder if PSA will roll out a "Let's Go Brandon" lower. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 06, 2021, 05:00:13 PM
I wonder if PSA will roll out a "Let's Go Brandon" lower.

It should be an 80%. And come with a coupon for a free brace.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 06, 2021, 07:46:14 PM
Aides Quickly Drag President Away As He Tries To Join In ‘F*** Joe Biden’ Chant
https://babylonbee.com/news/aides-quickly-drag-president-away-as-he-tries-to-join-in-f-joe-biden-chant

(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9633-1.jpg)

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The FBI has confirmed they will be dedicating 1,328 agents to investigate who started the insurrectionist chant so they can be arrested.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 06, 2021, 10:38:54 PM
I wonder how long it will take Snopes to classify "Let's go Brandon" as True.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: just Warren on October 07, 2021, 12:28:16 AM
Y'all are lying faced pony dogs!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 07, 2021, 08:24:47 AM
Y'all are lying faced pony dogs!

Oh shut up, you iguana loving bear farmer!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on October 07, 2021, 09:30:41 AM
Oh shut up, you iguana loving bear farmer!
Knock it off, you sons of motherless goats!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 07, 2021, 10:00:38 AM
It would be nice if Lets Go Brandon could replace F Joe Biden entirely. A lot of us would like to join in the denouncing of our Potemkin president, but there are some words we're just not going to use.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 07, 2021, 04:51:52 PM
That didn't take long:

https://bringammo.com/collections/new/products/lets-go-brandon-parody-flag

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 07, 2021, 04:54:01 PM
That didn't take long:

https://bringammo.com/collections/new/products/lets-go-brandon-parody-flag

That is a very tempting purchase. I just might swap out my Gadsden flag for a while.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on October 07, 2021, 10:03:47 PM
So when does the "Let's Go" Harris rehearsal start?

Actually, I thought I heard Let's go Brandon at the outset, but they soon got overwhelmed by the <ahem, koff-koff> insurrectionists. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 08, 2021, 12:53:55 PM
 :rofl:

LET'S GO BRANDON Herrera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqrMHNur8o
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 09, 2021, 04:11:02 PM
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    Someone just paged Let's Go Brandon at Chicago O'Hare. pic.twitter.com/BrUK2TuzJF

    — Brick Suit (@Brick_Suit) October 8, 2021
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/09/hero-someone-had-lets-go-brandon-paged-at-chicago-ohare-international-airport/

Video https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1446451556514242561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


 :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on October 09, 2021, 04:16:42 PM
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/09/hero-someone-had-lets-go-brandon-paged-at-chicago-ohare-international-airport/

Video https://twitter.com/Brick_Suit/status/1446451556514242561?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


 :rofl:

*expletive deleted*ing legend
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 10, 2021, 12:31:09 PM
:rofl:

LET'S GO BRANDON Herrera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqrMHNur8o

... and he's got T-shirts:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2788/8404/products/AKLGBHG_MAINIMAGE_1280x.jpg?v=1633642997)

A bit off topic, but since Herrera now has a dog . . .

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages3.memedroid.com%2Fimages%2FUPLOADED728%2F5ce56dc5740b0.jpeg&hash=45299acf2f631bfb2f68b30d68723ae29fc8dc72)

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 10, 2021, 05:09:21 PM
Guy Named Brandon Attending College Football Game Feeling Really Good About Himself Right Now
https://babylonbee.com/news/guy-named-brandon-attending-college-football-game-feeling-really-good-about-himself-right-now

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Indeed, a study has found that the number of Brandons reporting high self-esteem has skyrocketed in recent weeks after the slogan has been repeated at an increasing number of sports games and other public events. After the Brandons have been taken care of, sports fans say they are going to start chanting "Let's go, Todd!" to help out the nation's Todds, who are traditionally "pretty big losers."

 =)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Pb on October 10, 2021, 07:33:00 PM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on October 11, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
(https://img.patriotpost.us/01FHQQ2VJVG5GS5ET78VJ9S1SW.jpeg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 11, 2021, 09:49:03 PM
Mrs. Roadking just got a Cricut machine.

First thing off of it this afternoon.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51578209787_06a22e39db_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mzMNP6)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HeroHog on October 12, 2021, 12:26:35 AM
 =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D =D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 12, 2021, 07:22:39 AM
That's awesome RKL!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on October 12, 2021, 09:59:06 AM
You know, for decades the left has attacked the right for what they say - and when those on the right DON'T actually say something they can attack, they make up stuff, claiming that the right is using "code words" that have some hidden meaning and attack that.

And usually the code is SO secret it puzzles the person who allegedly used those code words. And today it's gone from code words to "dog whistles."  :facepalm:

But in this case . . . THIS case, for maybe the first time - we all know and agree on what the code words really mean, thanks to NBC's Baghdad Bob wannabe.

So . . . LET'S GO BRANDON!    :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 12, 2021, 10:07:13 AM
I have almost no doubt "Let's Go Brandon" will soon, if it hasn't already, be declared an extreme far right wing racist, sexist, transphobic  "dog whistle" by the MSM and Ds.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: dogmush on October 12, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
I think it's just a whistle at this point.  The dog part wandered off to sniff the bushes.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 12, 2021, 01:20:28 PM
I have no almost no doubt "Let's Go Brandon" will soon, if it hasn't already, be declared an extreme far right wing racist, sexist, transphobic  "dog whistle" by the MSM and Ds.

I hope so, might be able to make a bit of pocket money selling stickers.
 =D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 12, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
I hope so, might be able to make a bit of pocket money selling stickers.
 =D

I'll take 3. Where do I send the check?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 12, 2021, 01:30:38 PM
If I decide to go that route I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 12, 2021, 02:29:20 PM
If I decide to go that route I'll let you know.

You'd better hurry. Amazon is getting flooded with "Let's Go Brandon" stuff.

Funny thing is, while most of it is advertised as making fun of 46, some of it seems to be getting sold like you're supporting Biden if you buy it.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 13, 2021, 10:11:11 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/viral-video-kid-asked-to-announce-start-of-speedway-race-says-lets-go-brandon?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_member

Kid Asked To Announce Start Of Speedway Race Says, ‘Let’s Go, Brandon!’
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 13, 2021, 10:16:05 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/viral-video-kid-asked-to-announce-start-of-speedway-race-says-lets-go-brandon?utm_campaign=dw_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=housefile&utm_content=non_member

Kid Asked To Announce Start Of Speedway Race Says, ‘Let’s Go, Brandon!’

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on October 13, 2021, 10:37:54 AM
By cracky, this is getting to be my favoritest thread.

They've probably got a committee of 10-12 superbrains trying to figure out a way to turn this meme around.

I'm really curious about what Brandon Brown thinks of all this.  Anyone touched base with him on it, or are all the reporters being squeezed to lay off of it?  Talk about your news blackout, although the language is a good excuse for laying off it.  For the fluffy-headed innocent children, doncha know.

For all its abuses and disadvantages, I'd rather see my good ole Free Press back again.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 15, 2021, 12:54:37 AM
Meanwhile, at tonight's Giants/Dodgers game:

https://twitter.com/stockjockey77/status/1448853338146156550

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBtcbnhWUAErgHW?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 15, 2021, 08:29:04 AM
Any Brandons on the horizon for 2024? If so he has the perfect campaign slogan ready and waiting.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 16, 2021, 11:11:10 AM
My LGS.  :laugh:

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p960x960/245416555_4654245917952693_1925500817095289117_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=36a2c1&_nc_ohc=AUnnm4Cqm-0AX8ql5se&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=65c0f3ba8b505d728a8f358f4a1c4b17&oe=617027FD)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: lee n. field on October 16, 2021, 12:09:19 PM
SIL is a Brandon.  I'll have to ask him what he thinks.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on October 17, 2021, 03:34:12 PM
I play an online game called Armored Warfare.

"Let's Go Brandon" has been popping up fairly often from different folks in the chat room there.  =D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on October 19, 2021, 11:59:08 AM
It should be an 80%. And come with a coupon for a free brace.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-letsgo-15-stripped-lower-receiver-pre-order-ships-in-approximately-10-12-weeks.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20211019&utm_term=morning&utm_content=10022021
(https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/f/a/fack.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 19, 2021, 12:56:13 PM
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-letsgo-15-stripped-lower-receiver-pre-order-ships-in-approximately-10-12-weeks.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20211019&utm_term=morning&utm_content=10022021
(https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/7af8331bf1196ca28793bd1e8f6ecc7b/f/a/fack.jpg)
It is about time.   =)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 19, 2021, 01:10:00 PM
Love it!  =D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 19, 2021, 01:26:40 PM
Good enough.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 19, 2021, 11:20:24 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/b0de65c122a14adacfe5d0893c1c1b49/4cb1446e19bc0b7c-cf/s1280x1920/1cec370d5d2efc81973aea710a809b48071ecd04.jpg)


(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/a/AVvXsEj4pCovVSENCnaRtLW0SpRr98AAa2W7yV9Oxo66ZgMV7e4HF6tLhnpOmY1kwKy2d0sCT_Txe0_EHixqcdemwoNHQyiune0lzsclLRnF4LVpwCD0BcZyO1jzRpS6euChjU3YhoobEXHKe5MfHytEtGZS_hGZ3rMyeekww9rFs8WauRq8o3bpOLVN_eTy5Q=s16000)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on October 20, 2021, 12:08:06 AM
I really wish I had a vinyl printer working. Jen insisted that nobody would EVER want to put stickers on cars. Jen's dead now...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 20, 2021, 12:53:32 AM
Your Eurocentric and patriarchal phonetic alphabet is triggering for a lot of transalbino Albanian Albigensians. Do better.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 20, 2021, 01:10:21 AM
Your Eurocentric and patriarchal phonetic alphabet is triggering for a lot of transalbino Albanian Albigensians. Do better.

https://youtu.be/YPsgEdmlUf0  =D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 20, 2021, 12:01:47 PM
Your Eurocentric and patriarchal phonetic alphabet is triggering for a lot of transalbino Albanian Albigensians.

Good.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 20, 2021, 05:15:01 PM
Liberal Parent Trying To Figure Out How To Cheer For His Son Brandon
https://babylonbee.com/news/liberal-parent-trying-to-figure-out-how-to-cheer-on-their-son-brandon

(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9721-1.jpg)

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"I try to be so careful, but every so often in the excitement, I let slip a ‘Let’s go Brandon!’" said Bailey. "Then all the parents join in chanting, the game devolves into fits of laughter, and all the Trump supporters are trying to give me a high-five. It’s horrible!"
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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Just then, Brandon scored a goal, causing his dad to jump to his feet and involuntarily scream "LET'S GO BRANDON!", causing the entire crowd to join in.

Joe Bailey is now on 12 FBI watch lists.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 20, 2021, 05:42:37 PM
 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 21, 2021, 04:49:49 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sondrakistan.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F10%2Fcleanup-concord-brandon.jpg&hash=1fd01bb7e7b7bdf387441437655d215aa78e630c)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 22, 2021, 04:17:14 PM
On the House floor:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-congressman-floor-speech-lets-go-brandon

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 22, 2021, 09:15:01 PM
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1451654064098496513
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 23, 2021, 02:24:24 PM
The media is upset about how disrespectfully people are treating and taunting poor Joe, with the "vulgar language" and all.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/10/23/wapo-leads-pearl-clutching-over-increasingly-vulgar-taunts-president-biden-is-being-forced-to-endure/

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 23, 2021, 02:54:36 PM
The media is upset about how disrespectfully people are treating and taunting poor Joe, with the "vulgar language" and all.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/10/23/wapo-leads-pearl-clutching-over-increasingly-vulgar-taunts-president-biden-is-being-forced-to-endure/

Oh they can cry me a river
At least we haven't seen anything approaching this stuff with Biden that I'm aware of.

(https://www.iheartradio.ca/image/policy:1.2649671:1548364888/kathy.jpg?f=default&$p$f=79f3e6c)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 23, 2021, 04:26:28 PM
The media is upset about how disrespectfully people are treating and taunting poor Joe, with the "vulgar language" and all.

https://twitter.com/Dandywalker25/status/1451938622668693509

(bad words at the link)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 24, 2021, 06:50:26 PM
Another Cricut project

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51627192335_48d5c7ce68_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mE7RBM)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51626980819_386d885a59_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mE6LJX)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Jim147 on October 24, 2021, 06:56:54 PM
Ship me three or four of those. I don't drink beer anymore but have several friends that do.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HeroHog on October 24, 2021, 07:26:33 PM
Another Cricut project

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51627192335_48d5c7ce68_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mE7RBM)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51626980819_386d885a59_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mE6LJX)
1 each, please. Don't even care if they are in that gawd-awful color scheme!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 24, 2021, 09:46:26 PM
I'm purposely going with eye twisting colors.  =D
My wife wants me to make up some to stock her booth along with some stickers. Once I've got her stocked up I'll see about making up some to ship out.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HeroHog on October 24, 2021, 11:23:09 PM
I am SERIOUSLY down for 1 ea.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on October 25, 2021, 07:24:03 AM
Has anyone designed a Let's Go Brandon flag yet?

Hum...

Yes they have! I may have to invest in one...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124951529119?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1ayN8cm9FSYGu6DX6O1bMmg16&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=124951529119&targetid=4581046488761455&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418640322&mkgroupid=1239149842233245&rlsatarget=pla-4581046488761455&abcId=9300602&merchantid=51291&msclkid=6be510c62b221c00c09b71b0b8fb6473



Even better, Amazon has multiple versions of this hate crime!

https://www.amazon.com/Brandon-Banner-Outdoor-Indoor-Decoration/dp/B09J2KQ659
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: freakazoid on October 25, 2021, 12:16:11 PM
Was recently coming back from a trip and saw some construction trucks work doing road work on the interstate. One of them had one of those wooden big spools for cable with "Let's Go Brandon" painted on the side. This was in California.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: TechMan on October 25, 2021, 02:56:54 PM
https://www.comicsands.com/biden-video-lets-go-brandon--2655348134.html (https://www.comicsands.com/biden-video-lets-go-brandon--2655348134.html)

Biden did a photo op with a guy named Brandon.  So the Let's Go Brandon is so bad they are trying to spin it with the below.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1451544259992203266
I’m fighting every day to pass my Build Back Better Agenda for folks like Brandon. His story is like so many I’ve heard across the country. Folks are just looking for a fighting chance and to be treated with the dignity they deserve – and that’s what my agenda is all about.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 25, 2021, 03:00:24 PM
Sometimes I wonder just how much of this stuff he's actually aware of if at all.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: just Warren on October 25, 2021, 03:15:29 PM
It's interesting that passionate Biden supporters haven't tried to replace "Let's go, Brandon!" with "Let's go, Biden!"

It has the same cadence so there's nothing extra to to enunciate and takes the same amount of time to say and with the media behind it it could perfectly overwrite the Brandon chant. If you had enough people willing to chant it in public, that is.

And given the massive crowds that showed up to Joe's rallies it shouldn't be a problem to find that amount of people.

Real strange it hasn't happened.

 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: robear on October 25, 2021, 04:27:15 PM
Guess what the #1 and #2 songs on the iTunes charts are named?  Yep!   LOL.
http://www.popvortex.com/music/charts/

--both are hip-hop style songs, so not my cup of tea..  funny though. :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 25, 2021, 07:53:14 PM
Guess what the #1 and #2 songs on the iTunes charts are named?  Yep!   LOL.
http://www.popvortex.com/music/charts/

--both are hip-hop style songs, so not my cup of tea..  funny though. :rofl:

 :rofl:  They won't let that stand for long.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 25, 2021, 08:45:43 PM
:rofl:  They won't let that stand for long.

Yeah, I think youtube already banned a rapper for "Let's Go Brandon", citing "misinformation". It might have been one of these iTunes guys for all I know.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Fly320s on October 25, 2021, 09:42:12 PM
Sometimes I wonder just how much of this stuff he's actually aware of if at all.

Pretty much none of it. 

Look at his eyes.  "The thing about Joe, he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When he comes at you he doesn't seem to be livin'... until he bites you, and those black eyes roll over white." 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on October 25, 2021, 09:44:29 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/king-james-only-pastor-leads-congregation-in-chant-of-knoweth-joe-biden
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on October 25, 2021, 11:10:14 PM
Jeff Dunham ("Achmed the Dead Terrorist") and his Joe Biden press conference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKoMHJ0IzK0&ab_channel=JeffDunham
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 26, 2021, 12:15:02 AM
Pretty much none of it. 

Look at his eyes.  "The thing about Joe, he's got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When he comes at you he doesn't seem to be livin'... until he bites gropes you, and those black eyes roll over white."
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on October 26, 2021, 08:48:47 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVeRpActSyd/?utm_medium=copy_link

Biden Halloween outfit.  Didn't have time to download it out of instagram this morning. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 26, 2021, 02:47:51 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/10/25/gop-congressman-walks-off-house-floor-wearing-lets-go-brandon-mask/

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fshoponlinebest.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F10%2F211026071945-jeff-duncan-lets-go-brandon-mask-vpx-super-tease-2048x1152.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2021, 03:18:42 PM
This guy has been making the news lately:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-marine-disarmed-robbery-suspect-accepts-heroism-award-lets-go-brandon

I've seen him in three different interviews, and in each one he has said something to make lefty heads explode. He is cracking me up.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: BobR on October 27, 2021, 04:06:26 PM
Making the rounds on a few forums I have been visiting.

(https://i.imgur.com/5qnPoru.png)


bob
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on October 27, 2021, 05:01:29 PM
This guy has been making the news lately:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/arizona-marine-disarmed-robbery-suspect-accepts-heroism-award-lets-go-brandon

I've seen him in three different interviews, and in each one he has said something to make lefty heads explode. He is cracking me up.

Good on him for his service to our country and his rapid thinking, but I could not stand to watch him rocking back and forth... like that. Damn... And that echo in the room he was in....
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 27, 2021, 11:43:43 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/77f4a20a5746c29d2c1faf45d1fb04ee/f53d2c31fd301c68-0d/s400x600/a9be769927e91d96553cebdfc118ee860b8e7efc.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2021, 10:53:49 PM
Guess what the #1 and #2 songs on the iTunes charts are named?  Yep!   LOL.
http://www.popvortex.com/music/charts/

--both are hip-hop style songs, so not my cup of tea..  funny though. :rofl:

Apparently, LGB got 4 slots in the top 10.  :rofl: Mr. Watch Cap goes into some detail about it here: https://youtu.be/JGbMfrHS7dc
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on October 29, 2021, 03:34:44 PM
Quote from: From the Bee article
Wilkinson (thee/thou)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 30, 2021, 08:22:42 PM
Man, Fly320s sure has a lot of people mad at him right now. I say Bravo Zulu though!

I crack up at the pilot explaining why the entire crew should be fired. Sounds like he's the one with the "mental impairment" with the TDS and all.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/30/cnn-analyst-suggests-every-passenger-on-that-lets-go-brandon-flight-file-a-complaint-with-the-faa/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zahc on October 30, 2021, 09:45:58 PM
I actually agree that political statements by pilots is inappropriate in the course of duty.

Also agree people got away with equal or worse with Trump but that doesn't change my opinion.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Fly320s on October 31, 2021, 08:28:32 AM
Man, Fly320s sure has a lot of people mad at him right now. I say Bravo Zulu though!

I crack up at the pilot explaining why the entire crew should be fired. Sounds like he's the one with the "mental impairment" with the TDS and all.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/10/30/cnn-analyst-suggests-every-passenger-on-that-lets-go-brandon-flight-file-a-complaint-with-the-faa/

Yeah.  So many people get so offended about anything.  What a bunch of losers.  That twitter twit who asks people to complain to the FAA is the worst offender.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Fly320s on October 31, 2021, 08:34:57 AM
I actually agree that political statements by pilots is inappropriate in the course of duty.

Also agree people got away with equal or worse with Trump but that doesn't change my opinion.

Same here, which is part of the reason I don't make PAs anymore. 

We aren't supposed to say, "ladies and gentlemen" or similar non-inclusive language, but we are encouraged to tell people to wear their stupid covid masks.  FTR, I am not required to wear a covid mask in the cockpit.  Oh, yeah, we can't say cockpit anymore.  Now it is a flight deck.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2021, 08:39:11 AM
What if his co-pilot was named Brandon and he was talking to him?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on October 31, 2021, 10:57:20 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2021, 11:09:54 AM
A reporter on the flight tried to access the cockpit to get a comment from the pilot.

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/10/31/ap-reporter-says-she-probably-sounded-insane-trying-to-get-locked-cockpit-door-opened-for-comment-from-lets-go-brandon-pilot/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on October 31, 2021, 11:20:37 AM
Same here, which is part of the reason I don't make PAs anymore. 

We aren't supposed to say, "ladies and gentlemen" or similar non-inclusive language, but we are encouraged to tell people to wear their stupid covid masks.  FTR, I am not required to wear a covid mask in the cockpit.  Oh, yeah, we can't say cockpit anymore.  Now it is a flight deck.

Can you still call it a "joystick?"

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3mXdPf620C8/maxresdefault.jpg)

Joy.  Stick.  Get it?

I understand they moved the "control sticks" to the sides of the flying personnel in the 320s.  Was the "joy" "stick" connotation the reason?  =D

Etta Mology, thou vicious bitch,
Bless the language thou so enrich.

Penis, penance, stick of joy,
All related to the parts of a boy.

But look at words related to quim,
The results you'll find are pretty slim.

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2021, 02:33:53 PM
Oh, yeah, we can't say cockpit anymore.  Now it is a flight deck.

Is an oblique reference to cockfighting triggering for passengers?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on October 31, 2021, 02:35:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifs8crL5p4E
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2021, 04:14:22 PM


Commentator for CNN and MSNBC says ‘Let’s go, Brandon’ is the MAGA version of ‘Sieg Heil’
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/10/31/commentator-for-cnn-and-msnbc-says-lets-go-brandon-is-the-maga-version-of-sieg-heil/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 31, 2021, 04:39:52 PM

Commentator for CNN and MSNBC says ‘Let’s go, Brandon’ is the MAGA version of ‘Sieg Heil’
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/10/31/commentator-for-cnn-and-msnbc-says-lets-go-brandon-is-the-maga-version-of-sieg-heil/

I had no idea sieg heil meant, "I disapprove of the current leadership." On second thought, however, I should have realized that criticizing political leaders is totally the kind of thing that made the fascists such horrible people.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2021, 09:58:27 AM
Hmm. Apparently it's possible that the pilot was actually saying "Lets go Braves". If nothing else, if he's afraid of getting fired, he can go with that story.  =)

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/01/it-was-all-because-one-ap-journalist-went-crazy-sounds-like-media-may-have-jumped-the-gun-on-southwest-pilots-lets-go-brandon-signoff-audio/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 01, 2021, 10:15:00 AM
Liberal rageism would actually be funny.

If it wasn't so *expletive deleted*ing pathetic.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2021, 10:23:08 AM
Hmm. Apparently it's possible that the pilot was actually saying "Lets go Braves". If nothing else, if he's afraid of getting fired, he can go with that story.  =)

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/01/it-was-all-because-one-ap-journalist-went-crazy-sounds-like-media-may-have-jumped-the-gun-on-southwest-pilots-lets-go-brandon-signoff-audio/

Doesn't matter, the truth has already been written. Pilot will be fired and SW will pay out big money to some SJW lawyers over "my butt hurts" lawsuits.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2021, 11:18:50 AM
Also, a little reminder, courtesy of Glenn Greenwald (he rocks!) regarding what the left did to Trump vs what the right is doing to Biden. "Lets go Brandon" is pretty freakin' tame.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/11/01/one-idiot-was-elected-because-she-flipped-trump-off-glenn-greenwald-kicks-off-thread-absolutely-embarrassing-lefties-whining-about-letsgobrandon/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 01, 2021, 11:31:19 AM
Dan Rather weighs in (no I had no idea that dusty old fart was still breathing) https://steady.substack.com/p/a-party-embraces-vulgarity

Apparently five years of TDS, pussy hats, Pedophiles in Dresses Reading Hours, sexualizing kids, and so on doesn’t exist,  it’s only when *expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden starts getting chanted that it is suddenly uncouth and vulgar and is the worst thing ever and suddenly liberals care about decency in front of kids.



Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2021, 11:43:48 AM
1981-1993 Questioning the president is patriotic. Insulting and making fun of the president is protected free speech
1993-2001 Questioning the president is sedition.Insulting and making fun of the president is hate speech.
2001-2009 Questioning the president is patriotic. Insulting and making fun of the president is protected free speech
2009-2017 Questioning the president is racist in addition to sedition. Insulting and making fun of the president is racist.
2017-2021 Questioning the president is patriotic. Insulting and making fun of the president is protected free speech
2021- Questioning the president is sedition. Insulting and making fun of the president is hate speech.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2021, 11:48:44 AM
As a side note: Look up the word Sedition on google and a bunch of Jan 6 photos pop up
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 01, 2021, 12:25:17 PM
Dan Rather weighs in (no I had no idea that dusty old fart was still breathing) https://steady.substack.com/p/a-party-embraces-vulgarity

Apparently five years of TDS, pussy hats, Pedophiles in Dresses Reading Hours, sexualizing kids, and so on doesn’t exist,  it’s only when *expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden starts getting chanted that it is suddenly uncouth and vulgar and is the worst thing ever and suddenly liberals care about decency in front of kids.
QFT
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 01, 2021, 01:44:48 PM
Dan Rather weighs in (no I had no idea that dusty old fart was still breathing) https://steady.substack.com/p/a-party-embraces-vulgarity

Apparently five years of TDS, pussy hats, Pedophiles in Dresses Reading Hours, sexualizing kids, and so on doesn’t exist,  it’s only when *expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden starts getting chanted that it is suddenly uncouth and vulgar and is the worst thing ever and suddenly liberals care about decency in front of kids.






God, what a joke. And he's obviously a dog whistle for the left whiners who are completely blind to what their own party and representatives did for 4 years.

It's amusing.

And yet another reason I. HATE. THE. LEFT.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 01, 2021, 01:54:03 PM

God, what a joke. And he's obviously a dog whistle for the left whiners who are completely blind to what their own party and representatives did for 4 years.

More than 4 years:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-1w7wX63U0

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 01, 2021, 01:58:34 PM
To be fair, the left also hated vulgarity during President Trump's first term - as long as he was doing it.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on November 01, 2021, 02:52:47 PM
Each side has tended to be more and more accepting of escalating misbehavior by their own team - justified by the blatant transgressions of theit enemy.  It is clear that principle doesn't enter into it when someone regularly fails to call out their own tribe for the same kind of wrongdoing they pretend offense about when their opponents do it, it is clearly not a principled position. 

Dan Rather didn't complain about political decorum when it was directed against Trump, but now it suddenly is different because ... reasons.  I have family who in 2016 stormed into Thanksgiving calling all Trump voters at the table idiots but immediately following the 2020 election were demanding everyone come together in unity as though no one had a 4 year long memory.

Neither side polices their own and neither side has the moral standing to criticize the other.  Yes, I am as guilty as Dan Rather about this.  It was like pulling teeth to get me to criticize even the blatantly criminal actions of the Jan 6 rioters because we'd been faced with months and months of nonstop rioting and violence that the left excused and justified at every turn.

I have no idea how to reduce the whataboutism used to justify whatever contumely "our side" is reveling in.  Continuing to excuse misconduct because someone else was immoral just keeps the downward spiral going and damages our country  On the other hand, unilaterally calling out "my team" feels like supporting the lie that the "other team" are morally superior and is immediately seized upon to prove that everything I believe is wrong.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 01, 2021, 03:15:39 PM
Vulgarity accusations are just a useful tool to throw at someone you already don't like for other reasons. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 01, 2021, 05:01:26 PM
Yeah, uncouth and vulgar... right.

            (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBG3lohUIAAySzq.jpg)

Maybe it's our turn on the long side of the see-saw.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 01, 2021, 05:04:56 PM
Just in time for the holidays - Let's Go Brandon Gift Wrap!

(https://i.etsystatic.com/31052643/r/il/a95193/3442470725/il_794xN.3442470725_iqhb.jpg)

There are multiple designs out there already, some of which include both the LGB and FJB slogans.

(Funny - various people are selling this stuff, and there doesn't seem to be any supply chain issue . . . )
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2021, 05:17:00 PM
Ha - PSA made the MSM news cycle.

Hopefully PSA will ignore NBC's "request for comment". And I wonder who called the Secret Service?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gun-dealers-sell-weapon-parts-ammo-using-anti-biden-slogan-lets-go-bra-rcna4260?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2021, 06:00:10 PM
And NPR is here with breaking news to tell us what "Let's Go Brandon" means.

I like how they bring up that congressmen are saying it, but they neglected to mention the congresswoman who said "impeach the mother *expletive deleted*er" and was praised for doing so. At least the "expert" they interviewed was somewhat fair in mentioning that LGB is more acceptable than "*expletive deleted*ck Trump".

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/30/1050782613/why-the-lets-go-brandon-chant-turned-meme-can-be-heard-on-the-floor-of-congress?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=2061
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 01, 2021, 07:53:53 PM
And now we know who ratted PSA to the Secret Service. A "journalist".

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/01/nbc-news-ken-dilanian-confirms-he-called-the-secret-service-over-fk-joe-biden-emblazoned-on-an-assault-rifle/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 01, 2021, 08:02:37 PM
Hello secret service

(https://www.iheartradio.ca/image/policy:1.2649671:1548364888/kathy.jpg?f=default&$p$f=79f3e6c)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 01, 2021, 08:06:03 PM
Does PSA actually sell any assault rifles?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 01, 2021, 08:35:44 PM
Ha - PSA made the MSM news cycle.

Hopefully PSA will ignore NBC's "request for comment". And I wonder who called the Secret Service?

Good.  I hope they sell a Brandon-ton of lowers.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 01, 2021, 08:43:02 PM
Does PSA actually sell any assault rifles?

Not that I know of.  Closest thing (to my knowledge) would be this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSYs6DJ3Nlg

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 02, 2021, 07:23:28 PM
Ha - PSA made the MSM news cycle.

Hopefully PSA will ignore NBC's "request for comment". And I wonder who called the Secret Service?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gun-dealers-sell-weapon-parts-ammo-using-anti-biden-slogan-lets-go-bra-rcna4260?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-letsgo-15-stripped-lower-receiver-pre-order-ships-in-approximately-10-12-weeks.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20211102&utm_term=morning&utm_content=10022021

PSA has doubled down with a POTUS SHATUS lower receiver.  The Vatipants-15.

(https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/v/a/vatipants-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 02, 2021, 07:26:15 PM
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-ar-15-letsgo-15-stripped-lower-receiver-pre-order-ships-in-approximately-10-12-weeks.html?utm_medium=email&utm_source=daily_deals&utm_campaign=20211102&utm_term=morning&utm_content=10022021

PSA has doubled down with a POTUS SHATUS lower receiver.  The Vatipants-15.

[img]https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/v/a/vatipants-15.jp

Quick! Somebody notify NBC so they can call the Secret Service again!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2021, 07:38:15 PM
They're still having a meltdown

Quote
    Southwest Airlines is now the pro-Jan 6 terrorist attack airlines. https://t.co/L77UpRIiS8

    — (((DeanObeidallah))) (@DeanObeidallah) October 30, 2021

Hot take from Dean Obeidallah: Southwest Airlines is now the pro-January 6 terrorist attack airline
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/02/hot-take-from-dean-obeidallah-southwest-airlines-is-now-the-pro-january-6-terrorist-attack-airline/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 02, 2021, 10:13:06 PM
Hello secret service

https://www.iheartradio.ca/image/policy:1.2649671:1548364888/kathy.jpg?f=default&$p$f=79f3e6c

If memory serves, they did have a chat with Ms. Griffin over that photo.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 03, 2021, 02:25:12 PM

"The Brandon Administration":

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-desantis-biden-brandon-administration
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 04:57:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUkUuNxg31s Babylon Bee interviews Secret Service agent about Biden pooping his pants.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 03, 2021, 07:18:29 PM
Did this make it yet?
 
https://youtu.be/XkL-KzaYxuw
 
Brand is kinda weird, but... Not all that weird.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 05, 2021, 01:30:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDZDsRAWUAUL3h5?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 05, 2021, 01:20:25 PM
Who's the dame?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 05, 2021, 01:22:57 PM
Who's the dame?

I did not.... Whoops wrong president
Yes I did, what about it?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on November 05, 2021, 02:21:29 PM
Who's the dame?

She's the new Republican congress critter from Colorado, Lauren Boebert.  She's trolling AOC with that dress.
Boebert is a hard core 2A supporter, owns a restaurant in Rifle, CO where all the wait staff is armed.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 05, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
Well he left has gone and one upped Let's go Brandon. They win

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1456673597942943749?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 05, 2021, 08:01:20 PM
Saw a big assed Let's Go Brandon! sticker on the rear window of a Subaru Outback this afternoon at the grocery store.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 05, 2021, 09:35:54 PM
Yes, I am as guilty as Dan Rather about this.  It was like pulling teeth to get me to criticize even the blatantly criminal actions of the Jan 6 rioters because we'd been faced with months and months of nonstop rioting and violence that the left excused and justified at every turn.

"Damn! That SOB has stole himself a souvenir!"
 
"Well, it at least things aren't on fire..."
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: gunsmith on November 06, 2021, 04:12:35 AM
prank video
 [popcorn]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVso8trJ_5o
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 06, 2021, 10:49:16 AM
So why in 2021 when gas prices are skyrocketing the left is suddenly all “Well the President doesn’t control gas prices!”

He doesn’t control them but sure as hell his policies affect them greatly
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 07, 2021, 07:55:02 AM
Saw a big assed Let's Go Brandon! sticker on the rear window of a Subaru Outback this afternoon at the grocery store.

Like your old one?  Park that in Denver and it would be atomized within a couple of hours.  Nowadays I won't have anything partisan on my car.  I even gave up my ham license plates for a nondescript Commierado NNNLLL plate a while ago.

You know, like destroying or vandalizing your car would sure teach you a lesson, you terrorist, you.

And with that secret satanist code with that slashed zero on your license plate, yet.  What does that Ø mean anyway? I don't understand it so it must be bad.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2021, 08:01:54 AM
Like your old one?  Park that in Denver and it would be atomized within a couple of hours.  Nowadays I won't have anything partisan on my car.  I even gave up my ham license plates for a nondescript Commierado NNNLLL plate a while ago.

You know, like destroying or vandalizing your car would sure teach you a lesson, you terrorist, you.

Yeah, there are parts of town that if someone I really hated lived there I would just slap a Trump bumper sticker on their car and let the locals do the rest.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 07, 2021, 08:11:59 AM
Like your old one?  Park that in Denver and it would be atomized within a couple of hours.  Nowadays I won't have anything partisan on my car.  I even gave up my ham license plates for a nondescript Commierado NNNLLL plate a while ago.

That's how it was, and how I was, when I still lived in Santa Barbara. An NRA sticker (back when I liked the NRA) would have meant at the very least something like getting my car keyed, and a slashed tire or broken window would not have been out of the question. The person who would have done it would have very likely had a "coexist" sticker on their own car.

I now have a big "Idaho Second Amendment Alliance" sticker with an evil black rifle on the back window of my truck and worry not at all, even if I have to go to stinky Boise for something. Idaho has an NRA license plate available, and again, if I wasn't soured on the NRA, I might have those on my vehicles. If we had a Gadsden or "Live Free or Die" license plate available*, I'd get one of those in a heartbeat.


*Actually, I should write my state rep about that. She's an Idaho Second Amendment Alliance member as well and I bet she'd be up for submitting some patriotic plates.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Fly320s on November 07, 2021, 08:14:25 AM
Live Free or Die is overrated.  That doesn't seem to actually work around NH.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 07, 2021, 08:15:30 AM
WLJ: Too true, too bad, too sad.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zahc on November 07, 2021, 09:42:59 AM
I watched it in the theater. It's been a while since I read the book. It was obviously marred by quota casting. That was the standout flaw. Second, the music and direction choices were a bit heavy handed and made me think I was watching blade runner 2049. Third, it had pacing issues and started to blur together in the second half. On the plus side they did stick to the book. Except for the character sex and race changes.

Even half the book is too much for a single film. Too bad they couldn't do a miniseries like Mandalorian-length.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 07, 2021, 10:07:27 AM
I watched it in the theater. It's been a while since I read the book. It was obviously marred by quota casting. That was the standout flaw. Second, the music and direction choices were a bit heavy handed and made me think I was watching blade runner 2049. Third, it had pacing issues and started to blur together in the second half. On the plus side they did stick to the book. Except for the character sex and race changes.

Even half the book is too much for a single film. Too bad they couldn't do a miniseries like Mandalorian-length.

Let's go Baron
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2021, 08:59:18 PM
I watched it in the theater. It's been a while since I read the book. It was obviously marred by quota casting. That was the standout flaw. Second, the music and direction choices were a bit heavy handed and made me think I was watching blade runner 2049. Third, it had pacing issues and started to blur together in the second half. On the plus side they did stick to the book. Except for the character sex and race changes.

Even half the book is too much for a single film. Too bad they couldn't do a miniseries like Mandalorian-length.
I just re-read the book last summer.  The part the movie covered felt like most of the book.  I got the impression the remaining part of the book from that point went by really fast and there were some time jumps so there was a lot not directly covered by the book.  IMO, the 2nd movie could have a lot of scenes not in the book and still follow it.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 07, 2021, 09:21:31 PM
I was at the hardware store, comparing a few products with my wife.  She remarked that the prices seemed high.  I noted that everything is getting expensive - and turned to the stranger next to me and asked "Am I right?".  He says back to me "For the last year.  Go Brandon!"
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: grampster on November 07, 2021, 10:31:08 PM
Went into Walmart today.  They have a house brand mustard which comes in 4 different varieties.  I like the spicy horseradish one.  I've been paying 68 cents for a 12 oz container for a couple years.

It was 96 cents today.

The Friday night special 12 oz prime rib at our favorite place was $18 last fall.  It's $32 now.  The $18 ribeye is now $38.

I can't grasp anyone who walks upright would vote for any Democrat for any reason. 

We have Jimmy Carter cubed.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 07, 2021, 10:44:59 PM
Went into Walmart today.  They have a house brand mustard which comes in 4 different varieties.  I like the spicy horseradish one.  I've been paying 68 cents for a 12 oz container for a couple years.

It was 96 cents today.

The Friday night special 12 oz prime rib at our favorite place was $18 last fall.  It's $32 now.  The $18 ribeye is now $38.

I can't grasp anyone who walks upright would vote for any Democrat for any reason. 

We have Jimmy Carter cubed.

I don't really care for Biden.  However, may I offer a differing perspective?

Economic forces are massive, multinational and complex.  While presidential policy does have an impact, it's only one part of one government.  Our nation is like a boat on the sea - when a storm comes the captain has some minor control, but he like his passengers is largely at the whims of forces that are much larger than he is.  As passengers it's easy to direct ire towards the captain however recognize the larger picture here.

Also, said storm might be the edge of an economic hurricane, depending on your views of modern monetary theory.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 08, 2021, 01:16:27 AM
I was at the hardware store, comparing a few products with my wife.  She remarked that the prices seemed high.  I noted that everything is getting expensive - and turned to the stranger next to me and asked "Am I right?".  He says back to me "For the last year.  Go Brandon!"

Just looked at the M1 at the federal reserve.  The money supply was quadrupled just after the inauguration and over the last year that has continued to grow.  The M1 now sits at five times what it was before the election was stolen.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on November 08, 2021, 05:13:52 AM
Just looked at the M1 at the federal reserve.  The money supply was quadrupled just after the inauguration and over the last year that has continued to grow.  The M1 now sits at five times what it was before the election was stolen.
M1 blew up in 2020 under Trump.  I don’t think they are even reporting M1 anymore.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 08, 2021, 06:09:37 AM
Went into Walmart today.  They have a house brand mustard which comes in 4 different varieties.  I like the spicy horseradish one.  I've been paying 68 cents for a 12 oz container for a couple years.

It was 96 cents today.

The Friday night special 12 oz prime rib at our favorite place was $18 last fall.  It's $32 now.  The $18 ribeye is now $38.

I can't grasp anyone who walks upright would vote for any Democrat for any reason. 

We have Jimmy Carter cubed.

They are so brainwashed they are crowing about how good he is doing and how “paying a little more is a small price to pay for economic recovery”



Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 08, 2021, 08:11:14 AM
They are so brainwashed they are crowing about how good he is doing and how “paying a little more is a small price to pay for economic recovery”

So why don't I feel economically recovered?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 08, 2021, 08:16:31 AM
Quart of generic oil went from $4 to over $6.
 
Maybe Brandon doesn't control everything, but it didn't help that his people stomped the throttle to the floor while at the same time cranking WAP on the stereo, putting on a blindfold, and waving both hands out the sunroof...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 08, 2021, 09:03:34 AM
I don't really care for Biden.  However, may I offer a differing perspective?

Economic forces are massive, multinational and complex.  While presidential policy does have an impact, it's only one part of one government.  Our nation is like a boat on the sea - when a storm comes the captain has some minor control, but he like his passengers is largely at the whims of forces that are much larger than he is.  As passengers it's easy to direct ire towards the captain however recognize the larger picture here.

Also, said storm might be the edge of an economic hurricane, depending on your views of modern monetary theory.


Economic forces are also directly affected by the primary motivator of those forces -- the price of crude oil, which provides feed stock for vast amounts of the manufacturing processes required to make goods as well as the cost of the fuel that is used to transport those goods to market.

Brandon's activities have had a big hand in pushing the price of crude higher, and it's pretty apparent that he's not yet done.

Worse, his activities are also putting a LOT of pressure on the only other viable fuel stocks tied to economic production in the United States -- natural gas and coal.

Brandon has, in essence, fired the opening shots on a war on domestic energy production. I've said more than once, and I'll say it again, that he's out for revenge for the American economy proving Obama wrong when we DID, very successfully, drill our way to lower gas (and overall fuel) prices and made ourselves energy independent, to boot.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2021, 09:08:53 AM
Make America Great Depended Again
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 08, 2021, 10:19:00 AM
. . . I can't grasp anyone who walks upright would vote for any Democrat for any reason . . .
That's been my opinion ever since Obamacare - passed EXCLUSIVELY by Democrats - negatively impacted me in three very personal ways. (Couldn't keep my plan, couldn't keep my doctor, and my costs skyrocketed.)

So far, the only POTUS during my lifetime that was worse than Biden was LBJ.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 08, 2021, 11:15:24 AM
Economic forces are also directly affected by the primary motivator of those forces -- the price of crude oil, which provides feed stock for vast amounts of the manufacturing processes required to make goods as well as the cost of the fuel that is used to transport those goods to market.

Brandon's activities have had a big hand in pushing the price of crude higher, and it's pretty apparent that he's not yet done.

Worse, his activities are also putting a LOT of pressure on the only other viable fuel stocks tied to economic production in the United States -- natural gas and coal.

Brandon has, in essence, fired the opening shots on a war on domestic energy production. I've said more than once, and I'll say it again, that he's out for revenge for the American economy proving Obama wrong when we DID, very successfully, drill our way to lower gas (and overall fuel) prices and made ourselves energy independent, to boot.

Counterpoint, here's US domestic crude oil production:
(https://imgur.com/L4QLTmB.png)

Note, the massive drop in production started on 4/3/2020.  This suggests that the covid-19 crisis had a huge impact on production.  Biden's anti-energy policies certainly aren't helping, but they aren't causal to the big drop.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 08, 2021, 11:19:07 AM
Counterpoint, here's US domestic crude oil production:
(https://imgur.com/L4QLTmB.png)

Note, the massive drop in production started on 4/3/2020.  This suggests that the covid-19 crisis had a huge impact on production.  Biden's anti-energy policies certainly aren't helping, but they aren't causal to the big drop.
Didn't demand drop off for a while in the US as the lock downs started? 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 08, 2021, 12:03:13 PM
"Note, the massive drop in production started on 4/3/2020.  This suggests that the covid-19 crisis had a huge impact on production.  Biden's anti-energy policies certainly aren't helping, but they aren't causal to the big drop."

That chart is not really a counterpoint.

At all.

Of course US production dropped like mad starting in April last year.

Why?

Because global prices fell off a cliff and burrowed in with the start of lockdowns, which saw a huge reduction in world-wide demand.

The price per barrel actually fell to below $0... yes, ZERO dollars a barrel, for a short period the impact was so severe.


Since that time, however, a number of things have happened.

In an effort to support prices, OPEC+ began a series of production cutbacks and limits that continue.

International demand has plotted a slow, but not always steady, recovery.

Recovering demand and tightening supplies have supported price increases for both crude oil and refined fuels.

In November 2020 Biden, who ran on a green agenda that vowed to go to war with fossil fuel production in the United States,  beat Trump in the presidential election. Crude oil prices began a steep jump.

In January of this year, Biden took office and began a series of steps that quickly resulted in the US going from a net oil exporter (energy independent) to a net oil importer (energy dependent on OPEC+ and other foreign producers) by cancelling the Keystone Pipeline, adding strict limits on drilling on Federal land (including on land where verified reserves are located), and has repeatedly threatened similar limitations on shale production.

The result? Crude and overall energy prices continued to surge through the summer months.

However, over the summer, in response to rapidly inflating prices, Biden begged OPEC+ to increase production. OPEC's response? Screw you, Brandon.

Normally a sharp increase in prices would result in a sharp increase in US production. But the anti-US energy steps that the Biden administration has imposed have largely throttled any US production comeback, which has done nothing but support the price jumps we've seen over the past 12 months.

Last month, for the second time this year, Biden begged OPEC+ to increase production. Guess what the answer was? Screw you, Brandon.

Think that would give cause for pause?

If by pause you mean pausing even MORE US oil supplies, well, you'd be sort of right. We're getting word that Biden is seriously considering shutting down a pipeline in Michigan that brings a steady supply of Canadian oil into US refineries. That's not a planned pipeline, it's a production pipeline, one that has been online for years.

Any idea what shutting down that pipeline and its 500,000+ barrel of oil a day supply would do to prices AND fuel supplies heading into the winter months?

Oh, and around the same time the Biden administration flat out passed on imposing sanctions on a Russia to Germany gas pipeline "because its' almost completely finished."

So yeah, your chart certainly shows the US's average crude production having bottomed out.

But it sure as hell doesn't explain why US average crude production hasn't recovered sharply in response to tight supply and increasing prices. The answer to that is Biden's widening anti domestic fossil fuel jihad.


And that, is as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story.

And it's the major reason why you're seeing your pump price spike, why you're seeing consumer prices spike, and why heating your home this year is going to cost you one hell of a lot more than it has since the Obama administration.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 08, 2021, 01:18:59 PM
Wow, thanks for the write up, Mike.

Well argued.  By and large I agree.  Anti-energy federal policies aren't helping production, at any rate.  I do disagree with a few points.

The price per barrel actually fell to below $0... yes, ZERO dollars a barrel, for a short period the impact was so severe.

Sort of.  Futures contracts traded below $0, I don't think the actual commodity ever did.

In January of this year, Biden took office and began a series of steps that quickly resulted in the US going from a net oil exporter (energy independent) to a net oil importer

I'm not sure about this... If we are a net importer, it's only by thin margins.  https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596

Normally a sharp increase in prices would result in a sharp increase in US production.

Historically, isn't this a rather delayed reaction that takes 6 months to a year before those sharp increases in production result in lowered prices?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 08, 2021, 01:44:18 PM
"Sort of.  Futures contracts traded below $0, I don't think the actual commodity ever did."

A futures contract is a contract that sets the price of a commodity at a defined point in the future. When you purchase a futures contract, you set the price of that commodity at that moment in time.

When the futures contracts dropped below $0, the actual price of crude oil dropped below zero. However, in the case of oil, the futures contracts continued to drop below zero (at one point hitting $-30 something a barrel). Obviously traders weren't purchasing futures contracts because of the negative returns. That pegged the actual price of oil at that time at $0 a barrel.

So yes. The actual price of the commodity was $0 for a time.



"I'm not sure about this... If we are a net importer, it's only by thin margins.  https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=49596"

Just wait another 6 months. The full effect of Biden's new anti-domestic energy policies are still playing out, and will continue to play out. It's not like flicking a switch and turning a light on or off. It takes time for the full effect of those policies to be realized. In another year the story is very likely to be far, far different than it is today, and FAR less positive for American energy independence.


"Historically, isn't this a rather delayed reaction that takes 6 months to a year before those sharp increases in production result in lowered prices?"

Of course it is. But we're well past the 6 month time frame that you're talking about and that rebound of US production has NOT happened despite crude prices nearly doubling in that time. US production is pretty much stagnant and has been since Biden took office.

Of course, part of that could be blamed on multiple effects of the pandemic-related price collapse in 2020...

Until you realize that there's virtually chatter among major US oil producers to expand production any time soon, in large part due to the increasingly hostile political environment now facing those companies. Many (especially smaller ones that have survived the crash) are worried that rapid investments in reopening existing, or developing new, fields could be crushed at the stroke of a pen.

The cancellation of the Keystone pipeline virtually on day one of the Biden administration was all of the warning that many of these companies needed.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MillCreek on November 08, 2021, 03:04:49 PM
Live Free or Die is overrated.  That doesn't seem to actually work around NH.

(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/254678017_437427051078137_5701867188341531044_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=A0SYHUN0K1QAX_oLFCQ&_nc_oc=AQmDTKrgINXySLpd9W5m67bYOfgKYfm3PfTMc_mRN5VD-qgLrzU0jl0nLGo19cBwEXg&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=139d829f95db9f258bfcc1c767a90ec5&oe=618F65A5)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 08, 2021, 03:55:27 PM
I work with pipeline welders. Who are working for a lot less than accustomed to with me because pipeline work came to a crashing halt even before the inauguration.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: dogmush on November 08, 2021, 04:04:08 PM
It wasn't just futures.  The spot price of Crude for immediate delivery went negative in April of 2020 do to the sudden stop of the world's economy.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/wti_crude_oil_spot_price
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 08, 2021, 04:14:48 PM
It wasn't just futures.  The spot price of Crude for immediate delivery went negative in April of 2020 do to the sudden stop of the world's economy.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/wti_crude_oil_spot_price

Thanks.  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 08, 2021, 09:32:48 PM
I work with pipeline welders. Who are working for a lot less than accustomed to with me because pipeline work came to a crashing halt even before the inauguration.

Tell them they ought to be thankful for Biden’s amazing economy and that maybe they ought to learn to code.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 09:38:30 AM
Wholesale prices rise 8.6% year over year in October, tied for highest ever

-- Surging prices for gasoline and autos helped push the increase which was tilted far more to goods than services. One-third of the increase in goods prices came from soaring gasoline, with prices rising 6.7%.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/wholesale-prices-rise-8point6percent-year-over-year-in-october-tied-for-highest-ever.html


And that, folks, is what skyrocketing fuel prices can do to inflation. It literally makes it more expensive at every step of the product lifecycle.

And if Brandon has his way, it's going to get a LOT worse.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 09, 2021, 09:42:41 AM
Wholesale prices rise 8.6% year over year in October, tied for highest ever

-- Surging prices for gasoline and autos

Many new car lots were/are almost bare due to a lack of certain parts. Bet dealers were/are charging a premium for what they had on lot with all of it's parts
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 09:45:41 AM
Yep, and that also affected the price of used cars, as well.

I heard some people talking that in some markets a used car was bringing as much as a new car simply because new weren't available and used were in such short supply.

I'm glad that I grabbed my 2015 Subaru when I did
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 09, 2021, 09:53:16 AM
Many new car lots were/are almost bare due to a lack of certain parts. Bet dealers were/are charging a premium for what they had on lot with all of it's parts
Got the inspection done on my Tacoma last week.  The local dealership just has a handful of new vehicles on the lot.  I didn't see many salespeople wandering around.  The service was pretty good.  Probably their main business right now. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 09, 2021, 09:58:50 AM
Yep, and that also affected the price of used cars, as well.

I heard some people talking that in some markets a used car was bringing as much as a new car simply because new weren't available and used were in such short supply.

I'm glad that I grabbed my 2015 Subaru when I did

I have seen 5 year old trucks in good condition for sale at a used car dealer for what the Ford and Chevy websites say you can order a new one for.  (they don't say how long it takes for delivery, or even if they can deliver)  And those used trucks sold; it took a few weeks, but then they were gone.

I paid $12000 for a 2007 Silverado 2500HD a few months ago at a dealer in Texas.  I thought that was about $3000 too high, but I'd been looking for over 2 years.  When I stopped by the previously mentioned used car dealer, they asked me if I wanted to sell it.  I think they would have sold it for at least $15000.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 10:17:58 AM
Holy freaking crap...

The largest Subaru dealership in Virginia, Stohlman, has 20 new Subarus in stock at the location nearest me. They have several other sites farther out, but holy crap...

TWENTY.

Last time I went looking actively, back in 2017 or so, they had over 200 new Subarus in stock.


They have ONE new Forester on the lot.

And ZERO Outbacks.

That's absolutely stunning.



On the used side they have 1 used vehicle priced under $10,000... a 2013 Honda Insight with nearly 70,000 miles.

They have 84 total used, including 21 Subarus and 41 Volkswagons (they're also a VW dealership).

Normally they would have 200 or more used vehicles, as well.

That's just stunning.



The dealership where I bought my 2015?

They have 18 new on the lot. Zero Foresters, zero Outbacks.

Used is a bit better at 102....






Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zahc on November 09, 2021, 10:23:05 AM
Yep, and that also affected the price of used cars, as well.

And repairs! My van was in the shop a month waiting for parts. All the garages were slammed.

It's almost as if economies are interconnected.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 09, 2021, 10:36:36 AM
I got caught up in that flusterlcuck when We bought our New Explorer the end of June and then had an airbag problem. 30 days in the shop waiting parts.
On the bright side it has been flawless since then.
A good friend of mine is the service manager at a large regional used car dealership. Good used vehicles are very scarce and go for stupid prices at auction. On top of that getting parts is a crap shoot at best.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on November 09, 2021, 12:46:24 PM
Wholesale prices rise 8.6% year over year in October, tied for highest ever

-- Surging prices for gasoline and autos helped push the increase which was tilted far more to goods than services. One-third of the increase in goods prices came from soaring gasoline, with prices rising 6.7%.


https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/09/wholesale-prices-rise-8point6percent-year-over-year-in-october-tied-for-highest-ever.html


And that, folks, is what skyrocketing fuel prices can do to inflation. It literally makes it more expensive at every step of the product lifecycle.

And if Brandon has his way, it's going to get a LOT worse.

I can't help but wonder if we are just a smidgeon away from Venezuelan-style hyperinflation.  What would nudge the country past the tipping point to make that happen?

I also find myself wondering if this isn't all being done intentionally to move the country away from a capitalist economy and fully into some form of authoritarian socialism.  Considering how comfortable folks are with the various covid mandates, such a move doesn't seem as farfetched to me as it used to.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 12:51:26 PM
Oh, and in case anyone is interested...


WTI Crude Oil prices are SURGING today.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 01:19:07 PM
"I can't help but wonder if we are just a smidgeon away from Venezuelan-style hyperinflation.  What would nudge the country past the tipping point to make that happen?"

I think we are a long, LONG way from an event such as that.

A painful period of high inflation? Yeah, I think that's a lot more likely.

Hyperinflation is generally considered to be inflation of 50% or higher... a MONTH.

Hyperinflation generally hits nations in which both internal and external real good supply chains have collapsed, most often due to internal or external (or both) strife combined with either the collapse of the government or the government's inability to balance its monetary supply to its gross domestic product.

Venezuela was unabashed in its printing of more money to pay for the Chavez-created social programs when it couldn't loot any more money from its oil production. The collapse of global oil prices after their runup to over $100 a barrel also decimated real income.

A number of former Soviet Bloc nations, including Russia, suffered periods of hyperinflation in 1992 as nations tried to sort out the after effects of the collapse of the Soviet Union.





Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on November 09, 2021, 01:43:23 PM
"I can't help but wonder if we are just a smidgeon away from Venezuelan-style hyperinflation.  What would nudge the country past the tipping point to make that happen?"

I think we are a long, LONG way from an event such as that.

A painful period of high inflation? Yeah, I think that's a lot more likely.

Hyperinflation is generally considered to be inflation of 50% or higher... a MONTH.

Hyperinflation generally hits nations in which both internal and external real good supply chains have collapsed, most often due to internal or external (or both) strife combined with either the collapse of the government or the government's inability to balance its monetary supply to its gross domestic product.

Our domestic supply chain is under tremendous pressure and under-performing right now.  The number of container ships waiting offshore at US ports is at an extreme record high.  There are major shortages of container trailers, truck drivers, warehouse workers, etc.  Spare parts to keep the various mechanical parts of the chain functioning are simply not available.  Further evidence is the unprecedented shortages of retail goods in stores.
The supply chain is likely teetering right on the edge of collapse in my opinion.

Venezuela was unabashed in its printing of more money to pay for the Chavez-created social programs when it couldn't loot any more money from its oil production. The collapse of global oil prices after their runup to over $100 a barrel also decimated real income.

The Federal Reserve is not printing money in absolute record amounts right now?  Congress is not passing multi-trillion dollar legislation packages as we speak with no way to pay for them aside from the FR just printing more money?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 09, 2021, 02:00:45 PM
Had a guy call trying to find a sensor for a 2009 Nissan... Forklift...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 02:01:14 PM
We are a LONG way from a collapse of the supply chain.

We were one hell of a lot closer to a collapse of the supply chain April-July 2020 and even then it didn't collapse -- it just groaned. To say the situation today is anything like those special months at the height of the pandemic is not based in reality.

More importantly, the commodities that were off the shelves -- toilet paper, dairy products, meat, hand sanitizer, etc.? Supply of those items is, for the most part, back to something near normal.

And the primary cause for that wasn't supply chain issues, it was caused by people being retarded panic monkeys and buying 2,000 rolls of toilet paper, 250 pounds of ground beef (and not having a freezer to store it in).... in other words, being hoarding aholes.

We're nowhere near the kind of supply chain collapse suffered by Venezuela or many of the other nations that have experienced hyperinflation. In those instances the supply wasn't sitting on a ship waiting to be unloaded or rotting in a field, it was non-existent.

Those nations suffered a supply chain collapse because the production end of the supply chain failed.

I'll say that again... the PRODUCTION END of the supply chain failed.

In both nations farmers quit selling their produce because government policies made money worthless. Manufacturers couldn't get raw materials because, again, the money was worthless.

Those ships sitting in LA Harbor full of TVs and computers and other goods waiting to be unloaded?

That means that the production end of the supply chain has not collapsed.

The record and near record harvest figures for many US agricultural products in 2020 and 2021?

That means that the production end of the supply chain has not collapsed.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2021, 02:08:31 PM
"The Federal Reserve is not printing money in absolute record amounts right now?  Congress is not passing multi-trillion dollar legislation packages as we speak with no way to pay for them aside from the FR just printing more money?"

Sure it is.

But here's an exercise for you.

Why don't you do a comparative analysis between the actions of the Venezuelan government vs the actions of the United States government in regards to government spending, the respective GDPs, and the increase in the monetary supply.

That's where you see just what constitutes the groundwork for Venezuela's hyperinflation and how their actions were so far beyond what US policy is that there is no realistic basis for comparison.

And in doing so hopefully that will prevent you from becoming a retarded panic monkey.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 09, 2021, 02:30:47 PM
Had a guy call trying to find a sensor for a 2009 Nissan... Forklift...

How many did you have in stock?  Three? :D
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on November 09, 2021, 04:09:15 PM
Panic monkey?  No.  Very concerned about what I am seeing systemically in the supply chain?  Yes.  Spent a lot of years working near the tail end of the chain and gained what I believe to be a fair amount of insight into its strengths and weaknesses.
And the fact that it relies very much on itself for its proper functioning is something most folks don't consider.  Many types of failures can provide a sort of negative feedback that can cascade through the system, seriously disrupting its function.
If the supply chain doesn't work, it does not matter a whit whether producers are still producing.  The economy still tanks hard.

Very concerned about the fiscal shenanigans of our feral government?  Yes.  Many trillions of dollars the government does not have that they insist on spending, 20x growth in money supply in the last few years, deliberate destruction of the nation's energy independence, reestablishment of high tax rates, etc. ad infinitum, is all cause for much concern.  These behaviors by the feds is behind much of the inflation we are seeing right now.
Panic monkey?  Not so much.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 09, 2021, 04:49:06 PM
We are a LONG way from a collapse of the supply chain.

We were one hell of a lot closer to a collapse of the supply chain April-July 2020 and even then it didn't collapse -- it just groaned. To say the situation today is anything like those special months at the height of the pandemic is not based in reality.

More importantly, the commodities that were off the shelves -- toilet paper, dairy products, meat, hand sanitizer, etc.? Supply of those items is, for the most part, back to something near normal.

And the primary cause for that wasn't supply chain issues, it was caused by people being retarded panic monkeys and buying 2,000 rolls of toilet paper, 250 pounds of ground beef (and not having a freezer to store it in).... in other words, being hoarding aholes.

We're nowhere near the kind of supply chain collapse suffered by Venezuela or many of the other nations that have experienced hyperinflation. In those instances the supply wasn't sitting on a ship waiting to be unloaded or rotting in a field, it was non-existent.

Those nations suffered a supply chain collapse because the production end of the supply chain failed.

I'll say that again... the PRODUCTION END of the supply chain failed.

In both nations farmers quit selling their produce because government policies made money worthless. Manufacturers couldn't get raw materials because, again, the money was worthless.

Those ships sitting in LA Harbor full of TVs and computers and other goods waiting to be unloaded?

That means that the production end of the supply chain has not collapsed.

The record and near record harvest figures for many US agricultural products in 2020 and 2021?

That means that the production end of the supply chain has not collapsed.
There was also the problem of those govts seizing certain businesses/factories and gifting them to cronies who then looted them and sold off the spare parts so they soon shut down. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on November 09, 2021, 04:59:28 PM
In hindsight, perhaps I shouldn't have said Venezuela-style hyperinflation.  Poor choice of words.  But that doesn't negate my concern whether we're nearing some kind of tipping point where we slip into a hyperinflationary spiral.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 07:51:51 AM
"And the fact that it relies very much on itself for its proper functioning is something most folks don't consider.  Many types of failures can provide a sort of negative feedback that can cascade through the system, seriously disrupting its function."

Yes, they certainly can. And yet we've seen, in stark detail, supply chain's resilience in the face of the worst of the pandemic from April to August 2020. The supply chain didn't collapse. If was assaulted on virtually all fronts, and it didn't collapse.

The fact that a bunch of hard goods, a significant portion of which are legitimately luxury goods, are sitting in ships waiting to be unloaded, is no good reason for anyone to start messing their drawers.

Fortunately, if they DO mess their drawers, toilet paper is once again in good supply.  =D





"There was also the problem of those govts seizing certain businesses/factories and gifting them to cronies who then looted them and sold off the spare parts so they soon shut down."

Yes, it's all part of the rich tapestry of the Joys of Socialism.


Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 10, 2021, 11:07:58 AM
We are a LONG way from a collapse of the supply chain.

We were one hell of a lot closer to a collapse of the supply chain April-July 2020 and even then it didn't collapse -- it just groaned. To say the situation today is anything like those special months at the height of the pandemic is not based in reality.

More importantly, the commodities that were off the shelves -- toilet paper, dairy products, meat, hand sanitizer, etc.? Supply of those items is, for the most part, back to something near normal.
 . . .
With many types of ammo that used to be readily available simply absent from normal retail channels, the supply chain for ammunition may not be broken - but it's definitely bent.  And it has been for quite some time. The limited quantities of common caliber ammunition available are priced at roughly double what prices were 18-24 months ago. (Triple in some instances.) And it's not just demand cleaning retailer's shelves as soon as they're stocked as even the biggest retailers (e.g., Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, Academy, etc.) are not getting more than a small trickle at best of inventory in to restock their shelves with.

The ammo absence seems to be easing a little bit of late - but only a little. (Still high prices.)

And as for the supply chain not being broken for some things like primers -  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: dogmush on November 10, 2021, 11:37:57 AM
I have not once in the past 24 months been unable to by the ammo I was looking for.  Expensive?  Yes, but demand has skyrocketed, and supply was artificially cut by excluding Russia.

But you can get ammo if you want it.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Unisaw on November 10, 2021, 12:14:18 PM
Auto dealers have backed away from Costco's pre-negotiated price service.  For the few cars they have in stock, they have no interest in selling them at a negotiated, group price.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 12:30:37 PM
With many types of ammo that used to be readily available simply absent from normal retail channels, the supply chain for ammunition may not be broken - but it's definitely bent.  And it has been for quite some time. The limited quantities of common caliber ammunition available are priced at roughly double what prices were 18-24 months ago. (Triple in some instances.) And it's not just demand cleaning retailer's shelves as soon as they're stocked as even the biggest retailers (e.g., Cabela's, Bass Pro Shops, Academy, etc.) are not getting more than a small trickle at best of inventory in to restock their shelves with.

The ammo absence seems to be easing a little bit of late - but only a little. (Still high prices.)

And as for the supply chain not being broken for some things like primers -  :rofl:


OMG! Ammo you want isn't available?

END TIMES! WE GONNA DIE!

Really? That's going to be the basis for assessing the totality of the health of the supply chain -- you can't get .45 ACP?

Sigh.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 12:34:52 PM
I have not once in the past 24 months been unable to by the ammo I was looking for.  Expensive?  Yes, but demand has skyrocketed, and supply was artificially cut by excluding Russia.

But you can get ammo if you want it.

Yep. 4 months ago I bought 100 rounds of Federal 9 mm. More expensive than I wanted it to be, but it was available.

Is anyone forgetting that the same ammo and component shortages happened during Obama's years in office?

This isn't any freaking different. Then, as now, the primary force behind it was freaking panic buying. The rumors that were flying around back then were just... precious.

OBAMMA'S BANNED AMMUNITION MANUFACTURE WITH AN EXECUTIVE ORDER! I HEARD IT FROM MY UNCLE'S BROTHER'S SISTER'S DOG'S COUSIN'S CAT!  HE KNOWS, MAN, HE KNOWS!

And a lot worse.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 10, 2021, 12:46:39 PM
Yep. 4 months ago I bought 100 rounds of Federal 9 mm. More expensive than I wanted it to be, but it was available.

Is anyone forgetting that the same ammo and component shortages happened during Obama's years in office?

This isn't any freaking different. Then, as now, the primary force behind it was freaking panic buying. The rumors that were flying around back then were just... precious.

OBAMMA'S BANNED AMMUNITION MANUFACTURE WITH AN EXECUTIVE ORDER! I HEARD IT FROM MY UNCLE'S BROTHER'S SISTER'S DOG'S COUSIN'S CAT!  HE KNOWS, MAN, HE KNOWS!

And a lot worse.

Remember going to gun shows where someone on the hall's loud speakers kept repeating over and over " This could be your last chance to a gun"
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 01:13:02 PM
Remember going to gun shows where someone on the hall's loud speakers kept repeating over and over " This could be your last chance to a gun"

Jesus wept...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on November 10, 2021, 01:16:40 PM
Is anyone forgetting that the same ammo and component shortages happened during Obama's years in office?
I remember shortages.  I don't remember prices increasing anything remotely like as fast as we are seeing or staying elevated for nearly as long.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 10, 2021, 01:34:09 PM
I remember shortages.  I don't remember prices increasing anything remotely like as fast as we are seeing or staying elevated for nearly as long.

Yes, this is the big difference. While it's moderating a bit now, we were looking at literally double pre-panic prices on ammo for a good long while.  I don't recall any previous shortages doubling ammo prices, outside of some of the charlatan gun show vendors. And there were good stretches this time where it was in fact impossible to get certain calibers, regardless of price.

As of now, it appears I can go to places like S&G ammo and get whatever calibers I shoot at around 30-50% over "normal". That is doable if you need ammo, but personally, I would only buy "as-needed" quantities at current prices. You won't see me buying 5000 round cases right now.

Also, the primer shortage is definitely serious. For me, it has been the only thing holding me back from shooting my normal amounts at the range. I've got plenty of other components.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 01:37:29 PM
"I remember shortages.  I don't remember prices increasing anything remotely like as fast as we are seeing or staying elevated for nearly as long."

I remember things being distinctly different during the Obama years.

Many types of ammo, such s .22, 9, and .38, were in short supply, literally for years.

The price of .22 in many cases quadrupled.

Primers went from $12-$15 per brick to approaching $100 per brick and wavered around that point for several years.

Many of the most popular powders were virtually unavailable, and prices also spiked and stayed high.


But, this time is quite different in one important respect.

Mouth breathing panic monkeys sucked up the ammo on the sales end of the spectrum, causing artificially generated shortages, the same as happened with other commodities, like toilet paper. That was the same as before.

But this time Covid cut into the raw materials production side of the equation.

Effectively, the supply has been squeezed at both ends. But that's already being worked through as raw materials supplies come back on line.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 10, 2021, 02:17:19 PM
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Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on November 10, 2021, 02:38:41 PM
But this time Covid cut into the raw materials production side of the equation.

Effectively, the supply has been squeezed at both ends.
So in the Obama era there was panic buying.  Now we have panic buying and added on to that is widespread unavailability of the necessary raw materials both domestically and imports, as well as the reduction of importation of finished goods through a ban on Russian ammo.  Sounds like a kind of significant difference to me. 

It's sort of like the difference between maxing the credit card and maxing the credit card the day you get fired.

But that's already being worked through as raw materials supplies come back on line.
There are a lot of raw materials stuck out there on boats with those luxury goods you were talking about earlier, aren't there?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 10, 2021, 02:47:14 PM
The local slimy charlatan....errrr, I mean veteran owned business has a roadside ammo stand. For the low low price of $25 you too can own your very own box of .22 lr. By this new economy path I am about to become a millionaire.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Jim147 on November 10, 2021, 03:25:39 PM
During Obama I could still shoot every week. If I was doing that now I would have to live on the computer waiting for primers to come in.

I have a few thousand of each now but the replacements are hard to find and way to high.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 10, 2021, 04:39:08 PM
The local slimy charlatan....errrr, I mean veteran owned business has a roadside ammo stand. For the low low price of $25 you too can own your very own box of .22 lr. By this new economy path I am about to become a millionaire.

One of local farm and ranch stores just opened a new location in the next town over. Stopped in today while I was out running errands just to see the layout. The ammo shelf was fairly well stocked compared to recent times. 5 box limit. They had 5 boxes of Winchester 525 rd bulk .22 Lr. $39.95 a box, I bought 1. Also grabbed a 20 rd box of Aguila 12 Ga. Minishell slugs. I'm not optimistic but I'll see if they'll feed through my 870. If not I've got a single barrel 12 gauge to feed them to. First time I've seen the Minishells or bulk .22 Lr in the wild in quite a while.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 10, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
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Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Cliffh on November 10, 2021, 04:58:18 PM
Local Walmart has 300 rd boxes of .22lr, they got something like 50 boxes a couple weeks ago.  Normally, they would be gone by now even with a 3 box limit.

Problem is they're asking $40 per box.  Granted, it's a "special anniversary edition", 40gr @~1250fps.

But, very few people want to spend that much.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 10, 2021, 05:48:04 PM

OMG! Ammo you want isn't available?

END TIMES! WE GONNA DIE!

Really? That's going to be the basis for assessing the totality of the health of the supply chain -- you can't get .45 ACP?

Sigh.
Oh, boy . . .  :facepalm:

Re-read the first line of my post - I didn't attempt to assess the totality of the health of the supply chain, I very specifically wrote  ". . . the supply chain for ammunition may not be broken - but it's definitely bent."

That's pretty far short of an "END TIMES" pronouncement, so calm down and don't hyperventilate.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 10, 2021, 06:00:17 PM
Oh, boy . . .  :facepalm:

Re-read the first line of my post - I didn't attempt to assess the totality of the health of the supply chain, I very specifically wrote  ". . . the supply chain for ammunition may not be broken - but it's definitely bent."

That's pretty far short of an "END TIMES" pronouncement, so calm down and don't hyperventilate.

Shhh!  He's having fun hyperventilating, don't ruin it.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 10, 2021, 06:55:23 PM
That last ammo shortage... I think what really extended it was all the old farts who would hit their local Wally World at opening and buy everything they could, and then come back the next day, and do it again... Then that weekend, they'd set up a table at a gun show...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Cliffh on November 10, 2021, 07:07:50 PM
Hell, there was a guy from the LGS that would buy up all of WMs stock, then sell at his store - at a significant markup of course.

The main reason they went to a three box limit per customer per day.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: cordex on November 10, 2021, 07:13:48 PM
Another difference between other ammo shortages and now:
Before when a company bumped up the price on ammo significantly, people jumped on them for gouging. Now we are just grateful to be able to get the ammo.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 10, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
One of local farm and ranch stores just opened a new location in the next town over. Stopped in today while I was out running errands just to see the layout. The ammo shelf was fairly well stocked compared to recent times. 5 box limit. They had 5 boxes of Winchester 525 rd bulk .22 Lr. $39.95 a box, I bought 1. Also grabbed a 20 rd box of Aguila 12 Ga. Minishell slugs. I'm not optimistic but I'll see if they'll feed through my 870. If not I've got a single barrel 12 gauge to feed them to. First time I've seen the Minishells or bulk .22 Lr in the wild in quite a while.

The minishells will not work too hot, they like to flip over in the 870. Port feed them or the single shot. My local merchant's price for the .22 was for a 50rd box. He wanted $35 for 100 .22 short.  I felt bad, I sold a brick at a gunshow for $50 which is way too much. Turned around the next day at walmart and got two for the same money.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 10, 2021, 07:22:09 PM
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-s-supporters-have-bizarre-secret-password-meant-own-libs-n1283462?icid=msd_topgrid (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/trump-s-supporters-have-bizarre-secret-password-meant-own-libs-n1283462?icid=msd_topgrid)

You don't even make it out of the headline before you're called a racist.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 10, 2021, 07:49:46 PM
The minishells will not work too hot, they like to flip over in the 870. Port feed them or the single shot. My local merchant's price for the .22 was for a 50rd box. He wanted $35 for 100 .22 short.  I felt bad, I sold a brick at a gunshow for $50 which is way too much. Turned around the next day at walmart and got two for the same money.

Wasn't really too worried about feeding in the 870 since I've got the single shot. But, I will at least try. I really need a SXS coach gun though.  [ar15]
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on November 10, 2021, 09:09:44 PM
Quote from: MSNBC
One tweet by Tristan Snell said the chant is the MAGA equivalent of “Sieg Heil.” To this I say: Calm the hell down; that’s an insult to Nazis. And furthermore, Biden doesn’t have the gall to steamroll these would-be Nazis like Joseph Stalin’s army did in Berlin.
Oh MSNBC, don't ever change.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MikeB on November 10, 2021, 11:22:37 PM
Ammo prices are without a doubt coming down. I've found several calibers for much better prices than six months ago, if not even two years ago. Some from  EU and some from US. Just for 9mm examples.

Ammo Shop Online

https://www.ammoshoponline.com/shop/caliber/handgun/9mm-luger/new-product-promotion-30-off-9mm-luger-brass-fmj-115-gr-geco-qty-50-free-shipping-insurance-on-orders-over-200/

LAX Ammo

https://www.laxammo.com/lax-factory-new/handgun-new/9-mm-new/lax-ammunition-factory-new-9-mm-115-gr-500-rds-w-free-ammo-can-detail

While not the best pricing as compared to several years ago, much better than 6 months or a year ago at least. I have bought and fired several hundred if not even a thousand or more rounds of both examples without any issues.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zahc on November 10, 2021, 11:44:52 PM
We are obviously seeing price inflation in many sectors...but by no means all sectors. Some things are cheaper or the same. Of course we notice the ones that go up but I agree that ammo being expensive is not evidence of inflation. It's just evidence of ammo being expensive. This price volatility is indicative of general economic shakeup.

Layered on top of that, we are seeing the thin end of future inflation as we watch current spending and fiscal policy, which mathematically will inevitably cause future inflation. The markets can+will price that in now because they aren't stupid, but here's the problem...

If we are seeing current or future inflation, it's actually stagflation. Because if it were real inflation, you wouldn't be able to get a 30yr mortgage for 3%. They would be asking for more interest than that, because they would know now that money will be worth less in 30 years. But we see banks willing to loan at 3% right now which means they expect the dollar to remain strong in the future, meanwhile asset prices themselves are steadily climbing, I'm pretty sure this is classic stagflation. I wish I were smart enough to fully understand it. I'm pretty sure it means, as always, that Wall Street is fleecing the middle class.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on November 10, 2021, 11:46:22 PM
https://ammopricesnow.com/ is showing very slow and steady progress. Availability keeps improving and hopefully once it gets a bit better prices will march down faster.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2021, 07:09:54 AM
If we are seeing current or future inflation, it's actually stagflation. Because if it were real inflation, you wouldn't be able to get a 30yr mortgage for 3%. They would be asking for more interest than that, because they would know now that money will be worth less in 30 years. But we see banks willing to loan at 3% right now which means they expect the dollar to remain strong in the future, meanwhile asset prices themselves are steadily climbing, I'm pretty sure this is classic stagflation. I wish I were smart enough to fully understand it. I'm pretty sure it means, as always, that Wall Street is fleecing the middle class.

This is a big one. I saw an analysis a couple of days ago that everything going on with our economy right now (outside of the covid shortage stuff) is identical to the late 70's - early 80's EXCEPT interest rates.

I was there during the days of the 14% (and higher) mortgage, along with 10% CDs. There is simply something wrong with the current situation being the opposite of that. Obviously, people who can get a 3% mortgage are really happy about that, but it shouldn't be a thing, IMO.

In a healthy economy, we should be seeing 5-8% mortgage interest rates. I mean, would you want to loan out your money at less than that? People should also be able to get 4-6% interest on CDs and such, not 1% (or less - the interest on one of my money markets right now is .20%). We have a situation where the only place you can really make money right now (or just protect it from shrinking via inflation) is either in an inflated stock market that just keeps going up, or in real estate that is also crazily inflated. When either or both of those balloons pop, it is not going to be pretty.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 11, 2021, 07:21:45 AM
I remember CD and T-bill rates in the low to mid teens. When I lived in MN I bought T-bills directly from the Federal Reserve Bank as interest on them was exempt from STATE income tax - the extra quarter percent banks paid didn't make up for state taxes.

Right now, interest rates are being kept artificially low by the feds at least in part because of the magnitude of our national debt.

Try figuring the cost difference to the government of paying 0.2% interest rates for a short term (< 1 year) treasury security vs. 6% interest rates when you've got tens of trillions of dollars in debt. Even 20 year notes right now are only paying around 2%.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2021, 07:25:45 AM
Right now, interest rates are being kept artificially low by the feds at least in part because of the magnitude of our national debt.

And I don't see a way to get the fed.gov to change that when we have "build back better" and other bullshit that does nothing but require more "money" to be manufactured while we sink deeper and deeper into debt.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 07:55:45 AM
So in the Obama era there was panic buying.  Now we have panic buying and added on to that is widespread unavailability of the necessary raw materials both domestically and imports, as well as the reduction of importation of finished goods through a ban on Russian ammo.  Sounds like a kind of significant difference to me. 

It's sort of like the difference between maxing the credit card and maxing the credit card the day you get fired.
There are a lot of raw materials stuck out there on boats with those luxury goods you were talking about earlier, aren't there?


Did I ever say that this time isn't different? No, I didn't. Not sure where you came up that concept.

What I did say is supplies of ammo and components contracted dramatically, and prices rose dramatically, during the Obama administration.

Just as they've done during Covid.

Not sure how that's unclear.

But the big difference this time is that ammo and component supplies are returning far more quickly than they did during the Obama years.

Part of that could simply be that the mouth breathing panic monkeys who overdosed on ammo still haven't burned through it all and didn't re-enter the buying frenzy, and that helped counter balance all of the new gun purchasers who came out of the wood work. Speculation on my part, though.



"There are a lot of raw materials stuck out there on boats with those luxury goods you were talking about earlier, aren't there?"

Probably there are some, but I suspect that the shipping situation of raw materials vs finished goods is SIGNIFICANTLY different.

Raw materials are generally shipped in bulk. Open hold, pour in stuff, close hold. Once off loaded at a port, most of that material is shipped via rail. It's not being pressured by California's new trucking rules and the general lack of truck drivers.

The ships we keep hearing about that are backed up outside of major ports? Most of those are Conex container ships. They ship finished goods, not raw materials. This video shows that fairly well. The video does show a couple of bulk goods ships -- one appears to be a grain carrier, another one an oiler.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/10/06/shipping-backup-supply-line-california-ports-lah-newday-vpx.cnn
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 07:57:11 AM
Oh, boy . . .  :facepalm:

Re-read the first line of my post - I didn't attempt to assess the totality of the health of the supply chain, I very specifically wrote  ". . . the supply chain for ammunition may not be broken - but it's definitely bent."

That's pretty far short of an "END TIMES" pronouncement, so calm down and don't hyperventilate.



Sarcasm, Sheldon.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 07:58:07 AM
The local slimy charlatan....errrr, I mean veteran owned business has a roadside ammo stand. For the low low price of $25 you too can own your very own box of .22 lr. By this new economy path I am about to become a millionaire.

During the worst of the Obama shortages I saw many a box of .22 LR for that much, and a lot more.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 08:00:35 AM
Another difference between other ammo shortages and now:
Before when a company bumped up the price on ammo significantly, people jumped on them for gouging. Now we are just grateful to be able to get the ammo.


You're traveling in different circles, then. I've seen a LOT of people having absolute meltdowns over "price gouging" on ammo, components, and guns.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 08:04:28 AM
"Ammo prices are without a doubt coming down. I've found several calibers for much better prices than six months ago, if not even two years ago. Some from  EU and some from US. Just for 9mm examples."

yep, I'm seeing ammo prices starting to fall back a bit, as well.

Oddly enough, what I didn't see this time around, but saw a lot during the Obama shortages, are people yelling "THIS IS THE NEW PRICE POINT, MAN! PRICES WILL NEVER, EVER COME DOWN AGAIN! THE AMMO COMPANIES FIGURE WE'LL PAY IT AND THEY'LL NEVER DROP PRICES! GET USED TO $5 FOR EACH PRIMER!"

I do dearly love a retarded mouth breathing panic monkey festival.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 08:36:40 AM
This is a big one. I saw an analysis a couple of days ago that everything going on with our economy right now (outside of the covid shortage stuff) is identical to the late 70's - early 80's EXCEPT interest rates.

I was there during the days of the 14% (and higher) mortgage, along with 10% CDs. There is simply something wrong with the current situation being the opposite of that. Obviously, people who can get a 3% mortgage are really happy about that, but it shouldn't be a thing, IMO.

In a healthy economy, we should be seeing 5-8% mortgage interest rates. I mean, would you want to loan out your money at less than that? People should also be able to get 4-6% interest on CDs and such, not 1% (or less - the interest on one of my money markets right now is .20%). We have a situation where the only place you can really make money right now (or just protect it from shrinking via inflation) is either in an inflated stock market that just keeps going up, or in real estate that is also crazily inflated. When either or both of those balloons pop, it is not going to be pretty.


A friend and his family moved to the area where I grew up in 1981 or so. Their purchase mortgage on their house was in the 15% range.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 11, 2021, 09:03:15 AM
The question is how much of the price increases are due to inflation and how much is due to supply disruptions from COVID rules. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 09:15:17 AM
The question is how much of the price increases are due to inflation and how much is due to supply disruptions from COVID rules. 

My gut?

The majority of the price increases we have seen to this point have been caused by supply issues and monkey panic buying, but we had been seeing some moderation of prices through summer as things began to calm down. Some prices were back down to their pre-Covid levels, other prices were falling from their Covid highs.

But my guess is we're seeing an end to falling prices as it's getting a lot clearer that inflation is here to stay and it's going to be a lot more grinding than anyone of Brandon's sycophants is willing to let on.

My personal inflation story...

A month ago I bought a 64 ounce bag of store-branded frozen blueberries for $10.79. I use them in my oatmeal. Love them.

Yesterday, the same 64 ounce bag from the same store? $12.99.

18 months ago they were $9.49 (IIRC) before they disappeared in the Covid mass buying panic.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2021, 09:29:11 AM
Larry Summers has an interesting thesis regarding us possibly heading into "Japanization".

Quote
Secular stagnation is a period of little or no economic growth, while the term “Japanization” is often used by economists to describe long-term stagnation and deflation, typically accompanied by symptoms like high unemployment, real interest rates near zero, weak economic activity, and central bank stimulus, including quantitative easing.

“Japanization has been in the spotlight since the global financial crisis of 2008,” wrote Dino Lauria Ubatuba de Faria, CEO at Lince Investimentos, in a note. “The term Japanization refers to the economic conditions of Japan during the two lost decades, which resulted in both low growth and deflation.”

“Extremely low interest rates set the stage for leveraging and the perpetuation of zombie enterprises and the perpetuation of financial bubbles,” Summers said. “We’re seeing a lot of evidence of speculative risk. Extremely low and negative real interest rates are problematic.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/larry-summers-blasts-woke-central-banking-warns-of-economic-stagnation-and-japanization_4098818.html
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 11, 2021, 09:36:00 AM
He's not the only one who has been raising that spectre...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 11, 2021, 10:17:31 AM
We have a situation where the only place you can really make money right now (or just protect it from shrinking via inflation) is either in an inflated stock market that just keeps going up, or in real estate that is also crazily inflated. When either or both of those balloons pop, it is not going to be pretty.

There's another. Find a local small business, or someone who needs to be in business, and invest in tooling/space to operate that business... Or keep it in the family, and set kids or grandkids up...
 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: lee n. field on November 11, 2021, 05:45:20 PM
Was on a service call today, somebody's house out in the sticks of NWIL.  From the the looks of it they have a nice little side business selling "Let's Go Brandon!" t-shirts, coasters and knick-knacks.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MillCreek on November 11, 2021, 06:04:01 PM

A friend and his family moved to the area where I grew up in 1981 or so. Their purchase mortgage on their house was in the 15% range.

When my first wife and I bought our first house just north of Seattle in 1982, our interest rate was 16%, after we paid points to bring it down from 18%.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 12, 2021, 12:25:12 PM
Only APS could utterly ruin a LGB thread (of all things) with totally unrelated, toast-dry nerdery.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on November 12, 2021, 03:02:28 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-i-apologize-for-calling-all-the-colored-folks-negroes
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 12, 2021, 03:22:18 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-i-apologize-for-calling-all-the-colored-folks-negroes


Quote
Biden's aides also confirmed he will be making amends with the black community by inviting Jesse Jackson to the White House to sniff his hair.

Instead of Jesse Jackson, they should have made it Du Bois. Come on, Bee! Bee better!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on November 12, 2021, 03:35:26 PM
(https://www.biggunbulletin.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/73564c41935bf7f6-768x768.jpeg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 13, 2021, 06:44:44 AM
Apparently there's a movement afoot by the left to turn "Let's Go, Brandon," into "Thank you, Brandon!", supposedly for all of the wonderful things he's done as president.

One of my friends on Faceplace posted a response to one of the memes I posted talking about how "facts" are important and attached a Thank you Brandon pic with his supposed accomplishments...

Real wages up 9%, GDB doubled (yeah, that's a *expletive deleted*ing laugh riot) and some other crap.

So I posted back... yep, facts ARE important!

Inflation the highest it's been in 30 years.

Consumer sentiment the worst it's been in a decade.

Real wages going BACKWARDS because any increase has been eaten up by inflation.

Crude oil nearly doubling in price since January.

Gasoline up over $1 a gallon since January.

Natural Gas up something like 75% since January.

And a few other fun Brandon facts.

Oddly enough, she's not responded... Wonder why?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
Don't worry, the dems will roll out a 1,500 page bill of new regulations, pork. and taxes to fix everything.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 13, 2021, 07:49:37 AM
Apparently there's a movement afoot by the left to turn "Let's Go, Brandon," into "Thank you, Brandon!", supposedly for all of the wonderful things he's done as president.

One of my friends on Faceplace posted a response to one of the memes I posted talking about how "facts" are important and attached a Thank you Brandon pic with his supposed accomplishments...

Real wages up 9%, GDB doubled (yeah, that's a *expletive deleted*ing laugh riot) and some other crap.

So I posted back... yep, facts ARE important!

Inflation the highest it's been in 30 years.

Consumer sentiment the worst it's been in a decade.

Real wages going BACKWARDS because any increase has been eaten up by inflation.

Crude oil nearly doubling in price since January.

Gasoline up over $1 a gallon since January.

Natural Gas up something like 75% since January.

And a few other fun Brandon facts.

Oddly enough, she's not responded... Wonder why?

I really, really want one of these dipshits to tell me in person why my $2.50/hr raise this year being wiped the hell out by the increases in living costs is a good thing.

So far none of them are brave enough.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2021, 07:55:59 AM
Quote
The people at Summit Meats in Pulaski County tell us they have been able to keep prices stable for most of the holiday-type meats, such as turkey and ham. However, they say for other types of meat, the prices have skyrocketed, some of them going up 200% to 300%.

Prices on some types of meat have skyrocketed
https://www.wave3.com/2021/11/12/prices-some-types-meat-have-skyrocketed/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on November 13, 2021, 08:13:33 AM
I really, really want one of these dipshits to tell me in person why my $2.50/hr raise this year being wiped the hell out by the increases in living costs is a good thing.

So far none of them are brave enough.


BECAUSE TRUMP! TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, YOU RACIST CIS NORMAL MULTI-GENDER-HATING *expletive deleted*it LORD!

TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:



Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2021, 08:16:05 AM

BECAUSE TRUMP! TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP, YOU RACIST CIS NORMAL MULTI-GENDER-HATING *expletive deleted*it LORD!

TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!


 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Followed by a victory dance.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2021, 08:16:58 AM
Apparently there's a movement afoot by the left to turn "Let's Go, Brandon," into "Thank you, Brandon!", supposedly for all of the wonderful things he's done as president.

Sadly, with help and "curating" from the MSM and big tech, they might actually succeed in that, and the next thing you know, Snopes will be reporting that any negative connotations to LGB are fake news.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Pb on November 13, 2021, 10:03:48 AM
Trump probably does bear a fair share of blame for the inflation we have now.  The federal reserve created a horrifically huge amount of fiat dollars during his last year of office.  Trump appointed most of the chairmen of the board of the fed that did this.

Creating a lot of money without economic growth behind it leads to inflation.  Which is exactly what we are seeing now.   None of this was hard to predict.

Trump was a pretty good president until his 2020 fiscal irresponsibility.

I am not saying Biden financially responsible either- he appears to be much worse. 

It is like the entire federal government views value of money as something to be looted and destroyed as fast as possible.   :mad:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 13, 2021, 10:07:47 AM
Sadly, with help and "curating" from the MSM and big tech, they might actually succeed in that, and the next thing you know, Snopes will be reporting that any negative connotations to LGB are fake news.

I'm not Terribly averse to going back to "*expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden". Much harder to spin to something favorable.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 13, 2021, 10:10:36 AM
I'm not Terribly averse to going back to "*expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden". Much harder to spin to something favorable.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/217/455/0c8.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2021, 10:29:06 AM
Trump probably does bear a fair share of blame for the inflation we have now.  The federal reserve created a horrifically huge amount of fiat dollars during his last year of office.  Trump appointed most of the chairmen of the board of the fed that did this.

Certainly one thing I was unhappy about under Trump was his continued call for even lower interest rates than the abnormally low rates we already have. That can help short term and make an administration look good, but the long term effects are not good.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 13, 2021, 12:56:00 PM
Don't worry, the dems will roll out a 1,500 page bill of new regulations, pork. and taxes to fix everything.

Again?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: lee n. field on November 13, 2021, 03:50:24 PM
Apparently there's a movement afoot by the left to turn "Let's Go, Brandon," into "Thank you, Brandon!", supposedly for all of the wonderful things he's done as president.

Nearly $40 to tank up the Impala today.

"Thank you Brandon!"

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 13, 2021, 07:35:08 PM
Prices on some types of meat have skyrocketed
https://www.wave3.com/2021/11/12/prices-some-types-meat-have-skyrocketed/

$5/lb for ground beef right now at the Fred Meyers here in Eugene, Oregon.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 13, 2021, 09:57:00 PM
Nearly $40 to tank up the Impala today.

"Thank you Brandon!"

Lightweight.  Gas pump clicked to a stop for me today, not because the tank was full, but I'd hit the $100 visa limit.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on November 13, 2021, 10:19:53 PM
Local all you can eat pizza buffet restaurant has a digital sign saying “Let’s Go Brandon!” on it.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: dogmush on November 14, 2021, 12:21:13 PM
Lightweight.  Gas pump clicked to a stop for me today, not because the tank was full, but I'd hit the $100 visa limit.

That happens to me all the time now. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Jim147 on November 14, 2021, 01:02:40 PM
I've been filling up just under half tank. Still over $50.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: BobR on November 14, 2021, 01:12:21 PM
I will be picking up a new truck someday in the future in IA and driving back to NV. I just hope the prices don't climb in the next 5-6 months like they have in the last 6. If they do I can't even imagine what it will cost to fill up several times on the trip home. :(

bob
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Jim147 on November 14, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
I will be picking up a new truck someday in the future in IA and driving back to NV. I just hope the prices don't climb in the next 5-6 months like they have in the last 6. If they do I can't even imagine what it will cost to fill up several times on the trip home. :(

bob

Fill it with unicorn farts you will get better mileage.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: BobR on November 14, 2021, 07:21:11 PM
Fill it with unicorn farts you will get better mileage.

I was going to take a trip to the Rainbow Forest and try to catch a Unicorn then I found out they pooped skittles and the engine wouldn't burn the sugar. I was thinking maybe I could get to Rock Candy Mountain and catch some minks so I could squeeze them for their oil. I wonder how miles per mink I can get. :)

bob
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 16, 2021, 10:09:07 AM
Oh good grief.
Yes it was inconsiderate to spray paint someone's property but.....
One: It a APC not a tank
Two: It's..... oh never mind

Indiana community, veterans disrespected by ‘Let’s Go Brandon’ vandalism
https://www.wave3.com/2021/11/16/indiana-community-veterans-disrespected-by-lets-go-brandon-vandalism/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: DustinD on November 16, 2021, 12:08:07 PM
I agree with the article. I hope they catch the vandals.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on November 16, 2021, 12:13:09 PM
They should repaint it, then get a local sign painter who can do a better job with professional lettering of the message.

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 16, 2021, 01:31:02 PM
They should repaint it, then get a local sign painter who can do a better job with professional lettering of the message.

Concur. The vandals are occupying the White House.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 16, 2021, 06:28:03 PM
Let's go Brandon = Burning the flag
Quote
    As a friend said, I think it should be equated with burning the flag, in essence, that’s what they are doing. https://t.co/0WrJzFSkwv

    — Rep. Gloria Johnson (@VoteGloriaJ) November 15, 2021

So does this mean burning the flag is suddenly not protected by the 1st? Do the math, do the math.

State representative thinks ‘Let’s go Brandon’ should be equated with burning the flag
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/16/state-representative-thinks-lets-go-brandon-should-be-equated-with-burning-the-flag/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 16, 2021, 09:08:57 PM
The bottom line - Let's Go Brandon is _simultaneously_ ridiculing/exposing Biden's incompetence, and... ridiculing the media's fawning over him...
 
And the media does NOT like that.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on November 17, 2021, 06:59:24 PM
Part of me wants to put a "Lets Go Brandon" bumper sticker on her car.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 20, 2021, 06:03:50 PM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/fad7e8395748a6ae52f14140b785fa1d/f5825f1d27fc2c53-dc/s540x810/0f4262a583edbea835be57f63d2d721783522d30.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on November 20, 2021, 06:59:03 PM
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage."
 
Alinsky
 
We need to keep an eye out for the next chance...
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Pb on November 21, 2021, 02:43:48 PM
Yes... comedy has conventionally been "liberal" because it is attacking a conservative "establishment."

Now establishment is insanely leftist, comedy should naturally become more "conservative"... at least comedy that is actually funny.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on November 21, 2021, 10:37:19 PM
(https://social.infogalactic.com/images/posts/662ebb40-072f-48d6-a023-3a67db2c6dc8/original-a845ce094f9320a1bfb06b148d3b58dc.jpg?v=63804769607)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: MechAg94 on November 22, 2021, 10:13:40 AM
Yes... comedy has conventionally been "liberal" because it is attacking a conservative "establishment."

Now establishment is insanely leftist, comedy should naturally become more "conservative"... at least comedy that is actually funny.

Would "anti-establishment" be a better description? 

At one time that meant leftist counter-culture people.  These days, those people are in power.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Pb on November 22, 2021, 01:59:25 PM
Would "anti-establishment" be a better description? 


Yes!  You are right.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on November 26, 2021, 09:56:01 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/h1Ymi89.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 28, 2021, 05:48:30 PM
I should have gone back to get a pic. Out to town today and someone was in the median dressed as the grinch complete with face paint and sporting a Let's Go Brandon sign. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: JTHunter on November 29, 2021, 12:09:22 AM
If you want a picture, how about this one?  Just find the "appropriate" places to put them (gas pumps, grocers, etc.).
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 29, 2021, 09:23:13 AM
I ordered a batch off of Amazon.
Tagged both of the convenience stores in town last week. As of yesterday evening both stickers are still in place.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51713828640_408789b425_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mMLTzb)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 29, 2021, 09:48:40 AM
I ordered a batch off of Amazon.
Tagged both of the convenience stores in town last week. As of yesterday evening both stickers are still in place.

[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51713828640_408789b425_
 (https://flic.kr/p/2mMLTzb)

Oh man - I'm off to Amazon to copy you!  :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 29, 2021, 09:52:24 AM
I see them them everywhere here. All you are doing is screwing over the low wage job employee that has to go scrape off the stickers. Buy a billboard or put a sign on your stuff.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on November 29, 2021, 10:46:25 AM
I see them them everywhere here. All you are doing is screwing over the low wage job employee that has to go scrape off the stickers. Buy a billboard or put a sign on your stuff.
You mean they'd rather stand out by the street twirling a big arrow with the word "SALE" or "OPEN" on it?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 29, 2021, 10:49:06 AM
You mean they'd rather stand out by the street twirling a big arrow with the word "SALE" or "OPEN" on it?

Bet many would rather be twirling a big  "Lets Go Brandon" sign
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 29, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
I see them them everywhere here. All you are doing is screwing over the low wage job employee that has to go scrape off the stickers. Buy a billboard or put a sign on your stuff.

The stickers are pretty low tack adhesive and peel right off, since the ones I've put up are still in place over a week later I don't think anyone has been inconvenienced.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51578209787_06a22e39db_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mzMNP6)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51627192335_48d5c7ce68_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mE7RBM)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 29, 2021, 02:42:56 PM
Still not your property. Since we are the people who still think property means something.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 29, 2021, 03:07:23 PM
Gotta agree with French on this one.  I love "Let's go Brandon" as non-vulgar mockery; it's an excellent piece and we should keep it.  But, we should hold higher standards than tagging it on others property, IMO.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on November 29, 2021, 05:44:43 PM
(https://i.redd.it/9fmetu8h4j281.png)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 29, 2021, 05:50:41 PM
Gotta agree with French on this one.  I love "Let's go Brandon" as non-vulgar mockery; it's an excellent piece and we should keep it.  But, we should hold higher standards than tagging it on others property, IMO.

Harmless prank, stickers peel off with no residue ( at least the ones I have do) some folks got no sense of humor.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 29, 2021, 06:01:07 PM
Harmless prank, stickers peel off with no residue ( at least the ones I have do) some folks got no sense of humor.

I have seen some with semi-permanent adhesive.  (I know that because someone tried to peel them off)  If you have easy-peel stickers, I agree it's harmless fun.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 29, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
Harmless prank, stickers peel off with no residue ( at least the ones I have do) some folks got no sense of humor.

How would you feel if you came out of a store and saw a ANTIFA sticker someone slapped on the back of your vehicle?  Even if it came right off, you'd still be unhappy, yea?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 29, 2021, 06:33:16 PM
How would you feel if you came out of a store and saw a ANTIFA sticker someone slapped on the back of your vehicle?  Even if it came right off, you'd still be unhappy, yea?

Not a good argument, really. Making fun of Joe Biden is not the same as tagging someone as a supporter of a violent, fascist, terroristic, criminal organization.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 29, 2021, 06:46:13 PM
I have seen some with semi-permanent adhesive.  (I know that because someone tried to peel them off)  If you have easy-peel stickers, I agree it's harmless fun.

Heat makes it a snap for every sticker I've tried it on.  In summer, park with that side of the car facing the sun, in winter use a heat gun or a hair dryer.

I agree, though, that bumper-sticking someone else's property (regardless of ease of removal) is stooping to a low level, akin to spraying graffiti on someone's property.  (Although I've seen some wall painting which reaches the level of fine art, presumably with permission.)

A while ago i was just about to suggest we use the acronym "LGB" to surreptitiously indicate "Let's Go Brandon," but a little Tinkerbelle-like fairy fluttered by and advised me that maybe that wasn't such a good idea.

Thanks, Tinkerbelle.  I owe you.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on November 29, 2021, 07:00:09 PM
If ANTIFA a sticker is the least of your worries
But I do get your point
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: French G. on November 29, 2021, 07:50:09 PM
I had fantasies twenty years ago of sneaking around the PETA parking garage and planting nuke the whales, visualize whirled peas, or seal clubber stickers on vehicles. But I didn't, too immature a thing to do even then. Building still needs a JDAM, but I digress...  I hope there are plenty of FJB Christmas lights, if you guys want to rent a billboard I will chip in, just not on other people's stuff. 
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 29, 2021, 08:20:28 PM
Heat makes it a snap for every sticker I've tried it on.  In summer, park with that side of the car facing the sun, in winter use a heat gun or a hair dryer.

I agree, though, that bumper-sticking someone else's property (regardless of ease of removal) is stooping to a low level, akin to spraying graffiti on someone's property.  (Although I've seen some wall painting which reaches the level of fine art, presumably with permission.)

A while ago i was just about to suggest we use the acronym "LGB" to surreptitiously indicate "Let's Go Brandon," but a little Tinkerbelle-like fairy fluttered by and advised me that maybe that wasn't such a good idea.

Thanks, Tinkerbelle.  I owe you.
You want some gas-station moron using a torch to loosen stickers on the gas pumps?  [popcorn]


(just barely related) Did Tinkerbelle look anything like this? =D
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F53%2F66%2F96%2F5366960ee1a2b254166f5c5102013d48.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on November 29, 2021, 10:47:21 PM
Not a good argument, really. Making fun of Joe Biden is not the same as tagging someone as a supporter of a violent, fascist, terroristic, criminal organization.

I can't actually tell if you're making a joke or not.  I believe many of the left view "Let's go brandon" as being tagged a supporter of a violent, fascist, terroristic, criminal organization.  It's pretty clear for Jan 6 that they apply all of those labels to their political opponents.

But feel free to substitute in your own objectionable political message, or heck, message you agree with. The point, which is about keeping your paws off other people's property, stands.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 30, 2021, 05:15:31 PM
You want some gas-station moron using a torch to loosen stickers on the gas pumps?  [popcorn]


(just barely related) Did Tinkerbelle look anything like this? =D
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2F736x%2F53%2F66%2F96%2F5366960ee1a2b254166f5c5102013d48.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)

How on earth did you extrapolate what I said about sunlight, hair dryers, and heat guns into torches on gasoline pumps?

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 30, 2021, 05:22:51 PM
I can't actually tell if you're making a joke or not.  I believe many of the left view "Let's go brandon" as being tagged a supporter of a violent, fascist, terroristic, criminal organization.  It's pretty clear for Jan 6 that they apply all of those labels to their political opponents.

But feel free to substitute in your own objectionable political message, or heck, message you agree with. The point, which is about keeping your paws off other people's property, stands.


I thought we were talking about the "I did that" stickers. Besides, if we start letting our actions be guided by what leftists think, then burning down the gas station is a legitimate form of protest, so good luck with that.

In any case, easily-reversible, non-offensive graffiti that pokes a little fun at a politician is a harmless prank; not vandalism. Lighten up, Francis.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 30, 2021, 05:30:31 PM
How on earth did you extrapolate what I said about sunlight, hair dryers, and heat guns into torches on gasoline pumps?

Terry, 230RN

I had to work at it ;)  Hair dryers and heat guns need a cord, I'll just use this propane torch turned down low...

The Good Idea Fairy was about the LGB thing.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on November 30, 2021, 05:33:58 PM

I thought we were talking about the "I did that" stickers. Besides, if we start letting our actions be guided by what leftists think, then burning down the gas station is a legitimate form of protest, so good luck with that.

In any case, easily-reversible, non-offensive graffiti that pokes a little fun at a politician is a harmless prank; not vandalism. Lighten up, Francis.

IMHO Francis's point is still valid, even if he needs to lighten up.  The nearly impossible to remove stickers are probably over the line.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: 230RN on November 30, 2021, 06:29:45 PM
I'm having a tough time figuring out how the level of stickiness allows one to discriminate right from wrong.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on November 30, 2021, 06:32:23 PM
I'm having a tough time figuring out how the level of stickiness allows one to discriminate right from wrong.

Thaaaaaaaaaat's what she said.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 30, 2021, 07:04:33 PM
I'm having a tough time figuring out how the level of stickiness allows one to discriminate right from wrong.

Think smarter.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 04, 2021, 08:15:46 PM
Finally saw one of those stickers in Barnhart, MO.

As for the level of stickiness making it wrong or right, it's not complicated. If a sticker peels off easily, then it does no permanent damage, and costs nothing to remove. If I poured a bucket of paint on your car, but the next rainfall washed it off, wouldn't that be a lot different than something more permanent?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on December 10, 2021, 07:54:38 AM
So the golf ball company Titleist is refusing to process custom golf ball orders with the words "Lets go Brandon". In the meantime:

Quote
Certain political and vulgar messages that Fox News Digital tested on the website did not receive the same error message including "F Trump", "ACAB", "Antifa", "Kill Cops", "Impeach Trump" and "Kill Trump."

The company has so far not responded to questions. It will be interesting to see what their PR dept comes up with given the above.

https://news.yahoo.com/titleist-blocks-customers-personalizing-golf-002212982.html
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on December 10, 2021, 07:56:00 AM
Has Titleist also flagged FJB?
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on December 20, 2021, 06:11:40 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1472999660742750210

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on December 24, 2021, 02:34:03 PM
Brandon agrees!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1474447403289755651

 :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Big Hairy Bee on December 24, 2021, 03:11:20 PM
Brandon agrees!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1474447403289755651

 :rofl:

The question is, Is Biden that clueless and just parroting, or is he being cool and going with it?  Wonder if Secret Service is going to visit "Jared?"

https://nypost.com/2021/12/24/biden-says-i-agree-when-dad-drops-lets-go-brandon-on-call/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on December 24, 2021, 03:24:56 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F5f%2F5f8e7ac6083d997edb6b2c184680b1fd26cc5cf75aa52b58b26bdb9896a92bfe.jpg&hash=4be9990e6eb98e0727ff5f0f941e385a28b452f9)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: JTHunter on December 25, 2021, 10:22:42 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F5f%2F5f8e7ac6083d997edb6b2c184680b1fd26cc5cf75aa52b58b26bdb9896a92bfe.jpg&hash=4be9990e6eb98e0727ff5f0f941e385a28b452f9)

Cry - for the fate of this country.  =(
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Bogie on December 25, 2021, 10:33:02 PM
The question is, Is Biden that clueless and just parroting, or is he being cool and going with it?  Wonder if Secret Service is going to visit "Jared?"

https://nypost.com/2021/12/24/biden-says-i-agree-when-dad-drops-lets-go-brandon-on-call/

I figure that they keep him pretty tightly wrapped, and uninformed... Too much danger if he starts trying to think in public.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on December 26, 2021, 01:27:06 PM
He's been doxed

Man who said ‘Let’s go, Brandon’ to President Biden on Christmas Eve identified, now trending on Twitter
https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/12/26/man-who-said-lets-go-brandon-to-president-biden-on-christmas-eve-identified-now-trending-on-twitter/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on December 26, 2021, 02:09:10 PM
He's been doxed

Is it considered doxing when you post the video yourself?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ulpuUKI4Q
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on December 26, 2021, 02:15:30 PM
Well I meant doxed as in IDed and rabid Biden fans know who to go after. .
And as far as him posting a video I didn't see that.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on December 26, 2021, 02:37:36 PM
Brandon Brown, the NASCAR driver whose name sparked the "Let's Go Brandon" chant, says that corporate sponsors won't deal with him.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/nascar-brandon-brown-lets-go-brandon-corporations-marketability-tough
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: zxcvbob on December 26, 2021, 03:15:43 PM
News publications (so-called news) like ABC and The Guardian are writing headlines as if he actually said, "*expletive deleted*ck Joe Biden."  If all you read was the headline and maybe skimmed the article that's what you'd believe.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on December 26, 2021, 03:38:43 PM
Brandon Brown, the NASCAR driver whose name sparked the "Let's Go Brandon" chant, says that corporate sponsors won't deal with him.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/nascar-brandon-brown-lets-go-brandon-corporations-marketability-tough

Cancel culture at its worst. No matter where you are on LGB, AFAIK, this guy hasn't made any political statements, and is kind of an innocent bystander.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 27, 2021, 01:31:24 PM
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/12/27/drew-holden-spots-nbc-news-taking-very-different-approaches-when-spinning-insults-of-biden-vs-trump/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Nick1911 on December 27, 2021, 06:01:32 PM
Spotted in Colorado:

(https://imgur.com/jQMRzjp.png)

...yup, that's certainly an effective form of vandalism political protest that will get people thinking!
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on December 30, 2021, 03:38:49 PM
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    BREAKING: Let’s Go Brandon Coin (@LGBcoin_io) is now the LEAD sponsor for Nascar driver @brandonbrown_68 in the 2022 season.

    🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸#LetsGoBrandon #LetsGoAmerica pic.twitter.com/1rJ1VvNn5Q

    — Essential Fleccas 🇺🇸 (@fleccas) December 30, 2021

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


NASCAR driver Brandon Brown announces new sponsor and sparks a fresh triggering on the Left
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/12/30/nascar-driver-brandon-brown-announces-new-sponsor-and-sparks-a-fresh-triggering-on-the-left/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on December 30, 2021, 04:35:41 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


NASCAR driver Brandon Brown announces new sponsor and sparks a fresh triggering on the Left
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/12/30/nascar-driver-brandon-brown-announces-new-sponsor-and-sparks-a-fresh-triggering-on-the-left/

That's interesting because Brown was earlier wanting to disassociate himself from the whole LGB thing.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on December 30, 2021, 04:51:15 PM
That's interesting because Brown was earlier wanting to disassociate himself from the whole LGB thing.

Maybe SJWs attacking him for being nothing but an innocent bystander ended up red-pilling him.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 30, 2021, 04:56:36 PM
Maybe SJWs attacking him for being nothing but an innocent bystander ended up red-pilling him.

Money talks, bullshit walks.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Cliffh on December 30, 2021, 06:38:17 PM
I stopped watching NASCAR a couple years ago, but I just might watch the next Xfinity race.  =)
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on December 31, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
So, I decided that it would be fun to buy maybe $20 worth of FJB coin.

FJB isn't exactly traded heavily or widely, so I had to search around a bit to find a marketplace for it.

Finally found Probit Global and got registered...

And it's virtually *expletive deleted*ing impossible to figure out how to actually trade on the site.

I'll deal with it later.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: HankB on December 31, 2021, 02:56:38 PM
. . .
And it's virtually *expletive deleted*ing impossible to figure out how to actually trade on the site.

I'll deal with it later.
You'd think a site run by an exiled Nigerian prince would be easier to use . . .
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on January 09, 2022, 06:10:24 PM
 :rofl:

Hitler says 'Let's Go Brandon' to Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-Y__YVjt08
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on January 10, 2022, 05:04:07 PM
https://waynedupree.com/2022/01/bare-shelves-biden/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on January 12, 2022, 09:09:17 AM
Inflation up DRAMATICALLY December over December...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/december-inflation-consumer-price-index

Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2022, 04:18:11 PM
Looks like there was an insurrectionist attack on the press pool hanging out at Biden's house:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/15/wh-press-covering-biden-at-home-in-delaware-reports-a-driver-yelled-lets-go-brandon-at-them-twice/
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on January 15, 2022, 04:28:26 PM
Looks like there was an insurrectionist attack on the press pool hanging out at Biden's house:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/15/wh-press-covering-biden-at-home-in-delaware-reports-a-driver-yelled-lets-go-brandon-at-them-twice/

"I hope you blew your hate crime whistle."
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on January 15, 2022, 04:29:35 PM
PTSD inducing
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on January 15, 2022, 04:31:19 PM
PTSD inducing

Probably worse than what that poor reporter experienced firing the fully semi-automatic AR-47 assault weapon.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on January 26, 2022, 09:24:22 AM
Meanwhile at shot show
Some Karens had issues with the Lets Go Brandon sign sporting Gorilla

Gorilla Mill Violation UPDATE! What Really Happened?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HheHibgpVUw
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: dogmush on January 26, 2022, 10:33:39 AM
Inflation up DRAMATICALLY December over December...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/december-inflation-consumer-price-index

Damn, even the fake numbers are at 7%.  That's not good.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Fly320s on January 26, 2022, 12:21:23 PM
Damn, even the fake numbers are at 7%.  That's not good.

Real numbers are probably double that.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Cliffh on January 26, 2022, 12:47:24 PM
Real numbers are probably double that.

  Judging by the thousands of price changes I've been doing over the last couple of weeks, yes, it is somewhere around double that.

  One that's stuck in my mind was a package of drill bits - went from $1.97 to $6.44 in one jump.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on October 29, 2022, 09:27:41 PM
Obama loses control of the crowd.

https://gab.com/MagaKing/posts/109254562732358513
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Boomhauer on October 30, 2022, 08:30:12 AM
I have a Let’s Go Brandon sticker on one of my boxes at work :rofl:
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: K Frame on October 30, 2022, 08:30:38 AM
Yeah, I can't find any indication that that actually happened.

Given the very placid look on the faces of the people behind Obama (as in no reaction at all) when this is supposedly happening, I'm guessing that no, it didn't actually happen.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Ron on October 30, 2022, 08:42:02 AM
Yeah, I can't find any indication that that actually happened.

Given the very placid look on the faces of the people behind Obama (as in no reaction at all) when this is supposedly happening, I'm guessing that no, it didn't actually happen.

I had the same thought, if I find any confirmation I'll post it up.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: bedlamite on October 30, 2022, 09:10:24 AM
Didn't happen that way. One heckler, and the crowd starts chanting Obama:

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRW561329102022RP1
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on October 30, 2022, 09:12:51 AM
Obama loses control of the crowd.

https://gab.com/MagaKing/posts/109254562732358513

Didn't happen that way.  The FJB chants were mixed into the actual audio.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: lee n. field on October 30, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
Yeah, I can't find any indication that that actually happened.

Given the very placid look on the faces of the people behind Obama (as in no reaction at all) when this is supposedly happening, I'm guessing that no, it didn't actually happen.

It's hard for me to imagine someone going and being in 0bama's presence and listening to him, unless you're already a sycophant anyway.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 30, 2022, 09:29:04 AM
I had the same thought, if I find any confirmation I'll post it up.

Look at the replies to at the page you linked to.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: WLJ on October 30, 2022, 09:43:00 AM
Fake
Besides I don't see any news reports of a Obama rally being viciously and violently attacked by extreme far right MAGA Nazi white supremacists
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: RocketMan on October 30, 2022, 12:58:11 PM
Thinking back to all the FJB chants I've seen and heard at sporting events reported on social media, many of them sounded very similar in their audio characteristics.  Makes me wonder how many of those might have been bogus.
Title: Re: Let's Go Brandon!
Post by: JTHunter on October 30, 2022, 11:31:33 PM
Obama loses control of the crowd.

https://gab.com/MagaKing/posts/109254562732358513

About 12 seconds into this, you can see (and hear) the people behind "Jug-Ears" chanting "Obama".  [barf]