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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkmoon on December 09, 2021, 11:06:21 PM
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Reductio ad absurbum
https://www.outkick.com/outkick-exclusive-penn-trans-swimmers-teammate-speaks-out-as-lia-thomas-smashes-more-records/
Guy competes for three years as a male swimmer, then decides it's a female so it switches -- and leaves the best genuine female swimmers in its wake. Okay, I'm a dinosaur -- it's not fair.
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Just goes to show that men are better than women at everything, including being women.
:rofl: :rofl:
But yeah, absolute BS.
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(https://i.redd.it/w98afk2x5p481.jpg)
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If you don't approve of them competing, then you are a science denier. Because "science" has changed lately.
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If you don't approve of them competing, then you are a science denier. Because "science" has changed lately.
Yeah, well I still prefer older editions of dictionaries and The Chicago manual of Style, too.
Dinosaurs-R-Us
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If you want to know who has power over you ask who you are not allowed to criticize. The trans thing is heading towards a hysteria like coronavirus did. I know of a whole bunch of people that have kids that are coming out as trans. Want to be a girl? No questions asked estrogen for an 18 year old. My daughter has several people in her eighth grade class who are switching around and talking about their pronouns. This stuff is way above any accepted measure of gender dysphoria in a population. People are doing it because they are confused like all young people, this seems like the cool way out, or the way for everyone to like them since criticism is not allowed. Control of language and culture. We can say the other girls shouldn't swim but this is what they worked their whole lives for. This is paying for their college. They can't boycott and they can't speak up.
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Yeah, well I still prefer older editions of dictionaries and The Chicago manual of Style, too.
Dinosaurs-R-Us
Ditto on older dictionaries, except for new, tech-derived words like "laser."
Example: During the Clinton administration, Bill Clinton was referred to as a "communitarian."
I looked it up - my 1954 Webster's New World English Dictionary of the American Language (College Edition) defined it as "A member of advocate of a communistic community." Pretty definitive.
Today's Merriam-Webster online dictionary defines it as "of or relating to social organization in small cooperative partially collectivist communities" which is a rather softer take on the word.
(The definition of "gay" has changed even more.)
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Acceptance = Grooming
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Acceptance = Grooming
Yes. Supposedly well north of 30% of the younger generation have declared themselves homosexual, bisexual or transgendered.
This is vastly abnormal.
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Acceptance = Grooming
America has most certainly been groomed on a lot of subjects. Look at all the white folk cheering for BLM, CRT, etc.
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It is the cool thing to do. It is just another costume, like the 40-something guy who goes out and buys a Harley and more leather than Halford ever dreamed of...
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Notice how it’s nearly always the people who aren’t getting the attention they want, or who need to protect themselves from their own poor choices (eg about to get fired, fail out, etc) that “transition”.
That swimmer was a middling male athlete in a middling athletic conference. Even with the reduction in performance due to the “transition” it’s still destroying the actual women athletes. It’s times even now would be somewhat competitive with Olympic women like Katie Ledecky.
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If you want to know who has power over you ask who you are not allowed to criticize. The trans thing is heading towards a hysteria like coronavirus did. I know of a whole bunch of people that have kids that are coming out as trans. Want to be a girl? No questions asked estrogen for an 18 year old. My daughter has several people in her eighth grade class who are switching around and talking about their pronouns. This stuff is way above any accepted measure of gender dysphoria in a population. People are doing it because they are confused like all young people, this seems like the cool way out, or the way for everyone to like them since criticism is not allowed. Control of language and culture. We can say the other girls shouldn't swim but this is what they worked their whole lives for. This is paying for their college. They can't boycott and they can't speak up.
I hope most of them are able to grow out of it and become well adjusted adults. I am afraid a bunch of them are going to take hormone treatments among other things and mess up their lives even more. I hate to see what sort of adults will be running around in 10 or 15 years.
I am also glad this stuff wasn't around when I was an impressionable youth. I think I agree with the other comment that many of them are confused and lacking attention or something.
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The other female athletes are just upset they can't write their name in the snow
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Notice how it’s nearly always the people who aren’t getting the attention they want, or who need to protect themselves from their own poor choices (eg about to get fired, fail out, etc) that “transition”.
That swimmer was a middling male athlete in a middling athletic conference. Even with the reduction in performance due to the “transition” it’s still destroying the actual women athletes. It’s times even now would be somewhat competitive with Olympic women like Katie Ledecky.
A few months ago there was a discussion on TV about this and someone pointed out that several hundred high school males have beaten some women's world records in track & field.
Letting males with gender dysphoria or some other psychological illness pretend to be female and compete as such is a great way to destroy competitive female sports. (Except for some of the shooting sports - it seems that women have done very well in some of them.)
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Letting males with gender dysphoria or some other psychological illness pretend to be female and compete as such is a great way to destroy competitive female sports.
They'll blame it on patriarchy. I'm not kidding, wish I was.
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You going to believe the narrative or your lying eyes?
Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
NBC News: "Little scientific evidence" biological males have an advantage in women's sports
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1479808356004995075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
NBC News reports some say there’s ‘little scientific evidence’ biological males have an advantage in women’s sports
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/08/nbc-news-reports-some-say-theres-little-scientific-evidence-biological-males-have-an-advantage-in-womens-sports/
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You going to believe the narrative or your lying eyes?https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1479808356004995075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
NBC News reports some say there’s ‘little scientific evidence’ biological males have an advantage in women’s sports
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/08/nbc-news-reports-some-say-theres-little-scientific-evidence-biological-males-have-an-advantage-in-womens-sports/
Narrative? [Blink]
What narrative? [Blink - blink]
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If you want to know who has power over you ask who you are not allowed to criticize. The trans thing is heading towards a hysteria like coronavirus did. I know of a whole bunch of people that have kids that are coming out as trans. Want to be a girl? No questions asked estrogen for an 18 year old. My daughter has several people in her eighth grade class who are switching around and talking about their pronouns. This stuff is way above any accepted measure of gender dysphoria in a population. People are doing it because they are confused like all young people, this seems like the cool way out, or the way for everyone to like them since criticism is not allowed. Control of language and culture. We can say the other girls shouldn't swim but this is what they worked their whole lives for. This is paying for their college. They can't boycott and they can't speak up.
Control seems to be the key word. Especially when it comes to FTM.
Body dysphoria is a known problem in the world of teenage girls and control disorders have always been rampant (anorexia, bulimia and cutting being the worst offenders)
A massive social pushback was just starting when I was a teen and it does seem to have worked to a degree. Eating disorders do seem to have lessened and you don't hear as much anymore about cutting.
However, the actual factors behind those types of disorders are still there. They are control disorders and it's not so much about body image as it is control over something. It usually boils down to "I hate my body and my body is the only thing I can control." It's usually girls who have high levels of anxiety, overly controlling parents, depression and/or trauma.
My concern, and I've seen elements of it IRL, is that young woman with this type of mindset are finding a home among the trans movement where they are not getting help for their actual problems. Instead they are being praised and encouraged for engaging in the control behavior.
I will also say that MTF makes more sense to me as female is the genetic default, yet the numbers of FTM seem disproportionate.
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I will also say that MTF makes more sense to me as female is the genetic default, yet the numbers of FTM seem disproportionate.
Much easier to chop stuff off than glue stuff on.
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You going to believe the narrative or your lying eyes?https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1479808356004995075?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
NBC News reports some say there’s ‘little scientific evidence’ biological males have an advantage in women’s sports
https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2022/01/08/nbc-news-reports-some-say-theres-little-scientific-evidence-biological-males-have-an-advantage-in-womens-sports/
Then why have separate male and female teams?
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Looks like the one trans swimmer lost to the other trans swimmer.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/penn-lia-thomas-two-races-tri-meet-transgender-yale-swimmer
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Looks like the one trans swimmer lost to the other trans swimmer.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/penn-lia-thomas-two-races-tri-meet-transgender-yale-swimmer
Henig has had his breasts removed
Streamlining...... it works! ;)
bob
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Maybe "she" just wanted to be medically proactive and avoid the possibility of breast cancer.
What do you think? ???
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I'm seeing the tranny trend as two separate issues. There's the teens declaring trans because teen angst/popularity/cool factor. Kind of like tattoos and piercings. And, like most fads, I expect it will pass.
Then, there's the athletes. I recall reading a survey years ago among college athletes that was addressing several issues. The one I remember clearly was a question which asked, more or less, would you take a drug that would boost your athletic ability by 10%, but it would also shorten your life by 10%. An overwhelming majority said they would. Now, you take this same mentality among male athletes who are training hard but just not competitive for whatever reason, and drop in the idea that they can claim tranny status and compete as a female. Some are going to see this as an opportunity to gain a competitive edge. And they are taking that opportunity, because the PC police aren't allowing them to be criticized for doing so. Now, I'm starting to see push back from real females, seeing female athletes hurt by the inclusions of tranny athletes in their sports, and the loss of opportunities, scholarships, sponsorship money, etc. Won't it be fun to watch the fight between radical feminists and tranny supporters?
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They’ve been fighting for a while already. They even have a term for them. TERF. Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
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Won't it be fun to watch the fight between radical feminists and tranny supporters?
Chickens coming home to roost.
[popcorn] [popcorn] [popcorn]
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“UPenn continues to allow male athletes who identify as women to compete in women’s sports,” a press release from CWA states. “Lia Thomas (formerly Will Thomas), a Division I swimmer who is biologically male but rostered as a senior on UPenn’s women’s team, has competed throughout the season displacing female teammates in events and shattering pool, league, and national records.”
Civil Rights Complaint Filed Against UPenn for Allowing Biological Males to Compete in Women’s Sports
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2022/03/17/civil-rights-complaint-filed-against-upenn-for-allowing-biological-males-to-compe-n2604694
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The insanity continues
Lia Thomas Wins NCAA Division I Title, Robbing Tokyo Olympian Silver Medalist Emma Weyant of First Place Win
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/rebeccadowns/2022/03/17/lia-thomas-wins-ncaa-division-i-title-n2604720
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Just more proof that men are better than women at everything, including being women. :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOITQL_XMAMU03u?format=jpg&name=small)
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Revolting perversion.
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Science!
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I just can’t imagine how that swinging dick can feel proud of its “accomplishments”. A middling swimmer at best in D1 competition as a dude, so “transitions” without cutting off the danglies or really doing much more than growing its hair out and possibly taking testosterone blockers to comply with the rules, and is crushing the women in other lanes. It went through puberty as a dude, and competed as a more or less elite athlete as a dude for many years, so no matter what it’s current testosterone level still has the athletic advantage of greater height, hand and foot size, muscle mass, bone mass and lung capacity inherent to fully developed males vs females.
It *might* lose to Katie Ledecky in a head to head competition, given the reduction in performance from the testosterone blockers, but she is a legitimate female freak of nature swimmer. She was blessed with a body that allowed her to develop into a dominating female swimmer. But any other female swimmer stands very little chance of beating this thing from Penn. Before “transitioning” its times were better than Ledecky’s as a 462nd ranked dude.
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I just can’t imagine how that swinging dick can feel proud of its “accomplishments”. A middling swimmer at best in D1 competition as a dude, so “transitions” without cutting off the danglies or really doing much more than growing its hair out and possibly taking testosterone blockers to comply with the rules, and is crushing the women in other lanes. It went through puberty as a dude, and competed as a more or less elite athlete as a dude for many years, so no matter what it’s current testosterone level still has the athletic advantage of greater height, hand and foot size, muscle mass, bone mass and lung capacity inherent to fully developed males vs females.
It *might* lose to Katie Ledecky in a head to head competition, given the reduction in performance from the testosterone blockers, but she is a legitimate female freak of nature swimmer. She was blessed with a body that allowed her to develop into a dominating female swimmer. But any other female swimmer stands very little chance of beating this thing from Penn. Before “transitioning” its times were better than Ledecky’s as a 462nd ranked dude.
Anyone want to take bets on whether it transitions back after its swimming career is over?
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Futurama predicted this *expletive deleted*it 😂😂😂
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Anyone want to take bets on whether it transitions back after its swimming career is over?
No bet.
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Should any of Bruce/Caitlyn Jenners gold metals be retroactively moved to the women's metal column and any women's metal wins bumped down?
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https://www.newser.com/article/c43ba866f24563de50de1b663ef7de1f/column-lia-thomas-sparks-all-sorts-of-conflicting-thoughts.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_sports_img_b
It just won a national championship, blowing away genuine female Olympic medalists. And the usual suspects are whining that anyone who thinks that's unfair is just a bigot.
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https://www.newser.com/article/c43ba866f24563de50de1b663ef7de1f/column-lia-thomas-sparks-all-sorts-of-conflicting-thoughts.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_sports_img_b
It just won a national championship, blowing away genuine female Olympic medalists. And the usual suspects are whining that anyone who thinks that's unfair is just a bigot.
It IS unfair.... to require that poor man to take female hormones to downgrade his performance to be on a level field with the real women. I say if he wants to call himself a woman and compete, then we should all take him at his word and let hime compete against women, without having to make and physical or chemical changes to his body.
Is that woke enough?
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It would be cool to find out he is actually opposed to transexuals competing in womens sports or being given "same as" status and is doing this to break the spell.
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He appears to enjoy flashing his dick to the actual women in the locker room. He's probably a heterosexual exhibitionist or autogynophile. [barf]
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It would be cool to find out he is actually opposed to transexuals competing in womens sports or being given "same as" status and is doing this to break the spell.
That assumes a degree of intelligence and cunning not in evidence.
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That assumes a degree of intelligence and cunning not in evidence.
I only know of him and the lunacy due to the story being everywhere. Not sure if I've even read one story beyond the headline.
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He appears to enjoy flashing his dick to the actual women in the locker room. He's probably a heterosexual exhibitionist or autogynophile. [barf]
If true, that should be enough to get him kicked off the team. After all, sexual harassment knows no gender.
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I wonder how it dresses around the Penn campus. I would be surprised if it ever wears dresses.
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He appears to enjoy flashing his dick to the actual women in the locker room. He's probably a heterosexual exhibitionist or autogynophile. [barf]
I remain of the opinion that one is not truly transgender unless one has had the surgery. The original poster child for transgender athletes was arguably the tennis player, Renee Richards. She had the surgery -- and years after having gone through the courts to win the right to compete as a woman Dr. Richards acknowledged that in hindsight she did have physical advantages over the biological women on the tour.
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The surgery:
M to F - Lopadickoffme
F to M - Addadicktome
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I remain of the opinion that one is not truly transgender unless one has had the surgery. The original poster child for transgender athletes was arguably the tennis player, Renee Richards. She had the surgery -- and years after having gone through the courts to win the right to compete as a woman Dr. Richards acknowledged that in hindsight she did have physical advantages over the biological women on the tour.
I have a female friend who played soccer at a pretty high level as a goalkeeper throughout college. She's been out of college for a while now (still in her 20's) but continues to play in area leagues. She apparently didn't feel challenged enough in the womens league so she joined the mens league that was really open to all . She had a rough first year by her account, then she got injured stopping a ball kicked at goal sometime during her second year. She didn't go back explaining that the men kick the ball so much more incredibly harder that she was getting injured just stopping the ball. If I recall correctly she had a fractured rib.
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I have a female friend who played soccer at a pretty high level as a goalkeeper throughout college. She's been out of college for a while now (still in her 20's) but continues to play in area leagues. She apparently didn't feel challenged enough in the womens league so she joined the mens league that was really open to all . She had a rough first year by her account, then she got injured stopping a ball kicked at goal sometime during her second year. She didn't go back explaining that the men kick the ball so much more incredibly harder that she was getting injured just stopping the ball. If I recall correctly she had a fractured rib.
The soccer USWNT loses regularly to U15 boys teams.
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I only know of him and the lunacy due to the story being everywhere. Not sure if I've even read one story beyond the headline.
Which means it isn't just him. He probably has someone backing him and publicists pushing stories about him. For all I know, he may be an arrogant jerk who just considers it a big joke.
I heard commentary recently that things will need to get a whole lot more ridiculous before enough people wake up and force a change. They were hoping men would get in the women's basketball and the WNBA.
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What are the long term effects of taking testosterone blockers for a few years and then stopping? Would it be more likely to develop testicular cancer, have ED, heart problems, or other things? Seems like the stakes of doing it as just a big joke could be too high for that to be likely motivation.
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What are the long term effects of taking testosterone blockers for a few years and then stopping? Would it be more likely to develop testicular cancer, have ED, heart problems, or other things? Seems like the stakes of doing it as just a big joke could be too high for that to be likely motivation.
I was on Lupron for 2 years, in my prostate cancer adventures. I've had no tests for it, but I suspect testosterone production really didn't pick back up much after that stopped. And being on it was something I never want to repeat.
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The surgery:
M to F - Lopadickoffme
F to M - Addadicktome
Precisely.
And for F to M it also includes a mastectomy, while for M to F it includes a mastaddtome.
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Apparently a female not wanting to change in front of a male is transphobic pic.twitter.com/uc3aPw9kFD
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) March 20, 2022
OMG, make it STOP! SJW calls female swimmer TRANSPHOBIC for not wanting to change in front of Lia Thomas in the locker room (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/21/omg-make-it-stop-sjw-calls-female-swimmer-transphobic-for-not-wanting-to-change-in-front-of-lia-thomas-in-the-locker-room-watch/
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OMG, make it STOP! SJW calls female swimmer TRANSPHOBIC for not wanting to change in front of Lia Thomas in the locker room (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/21/omg-make-it-stop-sjw-calls-female-swimmer-transphobic-for-not-wanting-to-change-in-front-of-lia-thomas-in-the-locker-room-watch/
According to teammates, Thomas is attracted to women.
In any other situation, exposing yourself to unwanted viewers is a sex crime. (It should be here, too.)
You know how many guys have sex crime convictions just for peeing drunk in public?
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OMG, make it STOP! SJW calls female swimmer TRANSPHOBIC for not wanting to change in front of Lia Thomas in the locker room (watch)
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/03/21/omg-make-it-stop-sjw-calls-female-swimmer-transphobic-for-not-wanting-to-change-in-front-of-lia-thomas-in-the-locker-room-watch/
I liked this part ... because I agree with it.
He’s not a trans anything. He’s a dude pretending to be a woman, so he can win competitions.
He still has his junk and does not belong in the women’s locker room. I’m annoyed these words need to be said.
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Okay, I snickered at the "Aqua-ma'am"
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Why have none of the girls gone to the sheriff and pressed criminal charges for indecent exposure? (yes, the sheriff has jurisdiction, even if he doesn't want it. And the sheriff is elected.) A criminal complaint against the university would be epic, but I'm not sure exactly what they would allege to make that work.
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Why have none of the girls gone to the sheriff and pressed criminal charges for indecent exposure? (yes, the sheriff has jurisdiction, even if he doesn't want it. And the sheriff is elected.) A criminal complaint against the university would be epic, but I'm not sure exactly what they would allege to make that work.
Because those girls would lose their hopes and dreams of being competitive swimmers. They would never be allowed to compete for the olympic team or a national prize. The media, college, and lgtbbq people would roast those girls over an open flame.
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Because those girls would lose their hopes and dreams of being competitive swimmers. They would never be allowed to compete for the olympic team or a national prize. The media, college, and lgtbbq people would roast those girls over an open flame.
A senior who isn’t terribly competitive would lose all that much if they did something like report it to the county sheriff. They’ve already gotten the majority of the scholarship $$, and if they’re not good enough now for major competition they won’t be later on either. Unless the university can deny them graduation they have little to lose.