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Title: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Ben on April 28, 2022, 03:29:38 PM
Interesting take on the potential makeup of Congress after 2024. The thesis appears to be that a Republican majority will wipe out a bunch of "moderate" dems and leave the far-left nutjobs in, since they're in districts that no R could win. I suppose that could matter for minority party leadership appointments.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defund-democrats-expand-power-2022-midterms
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: charby on April 28, 2022, 03:37:00 PM
I'm not putting any nuts in any bags until Nov 9.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: 230RN on April 28, 2022, 03:38:16 PM
I just hope this postulated Repub majority starts using the word "communist" as freely as those communists use the word "racist" and "privileged" ...and a few others.

<snarl>

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 28, 2022, 03:53:59 PM
I've read/heard that before. The Left just keeps getting Leftier. The far Left of the Democratic Party keeps yielding more ground to the far, far Left.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Ben on April 28, 2022, 03:59:37 PM
I'm not putting any nuts in any bags until Nov 9.

So you're nutless?

 =D
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: charby on April 28, 2022, 04:40:10 PM
So you're nutless?

 =D

Just unsorted  :rofl:
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 28, 2022, 04:43:30 PM
So the fringe left loonies to propose bills, the R's to cave on everything for National Security or The Children, and the senile idiot to sign them.

Got it.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on April 28, 2022, 05:07:53 PM
Some pundits have been predicting this for months. Not sure, but I may have posted such an article last year some time.

At least one is also predicting that a number of moderate Ds in swing districts will fall, not to Republicans, but to squad-like hard-left Democrats.

I think that's a bit less of a possibility, but it could happen.

One guy last year was saying that one very likely outcome of the coming election is the death of the moderate Democratic party for a decade or more and, by extension, the death of Democratic power nationally for an equal period of time.

How?

With moderate Democrats falling to Republicans, the hard left will seize control and will fundamentally rewrite the path of the Democratic party into a true socialist, give everyone free *expletive deleted*it by taxing one billionaire, platform.

But, they won't have enough power to push their agenda nationally, so the Democrats will become increasingly marginalized.

Moderate and centrist Democrats will push their support to centrist Republicans or will simply sit out all together.

I don't know if any of that will come true, but the way it looks right now is that the Democrats are facing a calamity of near Biblical, Old Testament ANGRY GOD proportions...
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on April 28, 2022, 05:09:10 PM
So you're nutless?

 =D

Nah, he's OK, in that category...

They're just undersized and mostly damaged...
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on April 28, 2022, 05:18:29 PM
There are some, however, who are still saying that this mid-term is going to be a LOT closer than many are predicting and that the Dems will manage to take a clean majority in the Senate.

I hope not, but even if they do, most are still saying that the Dems are going to lose pretty badly in the House.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: MechAg94 on April 28, 2022, 05:29:21 PM
Interesting take on the potential makeup of Congress after 2024. The thesis appears to be that a Republican majority will wipe out a bunch of "moderate" dems and leave the far-left nutjobs in, since they're in districts that no R could win. I suppose that could matter for minority party leadership appointments.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/defund-democrats-expand-power-2022-midterms
Technically, that has been happening for years.  The farthest Left Dems are in very strong states/districts where they rarely have to worry about what their voters want.  That is why they can be leftist loonies and no one in their district challenges them. 

Probably similar things happening on the Republican side, but Republicans just end up with establishment idiots in office that are hard to get rid of.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Ben on April 28, 2022, 05:31:40 PM

With moderate Democrats falling to Republicans, the hard left will seize control and will fundamentally rewrite the path of the Democratic party into a true socialist, give everyone free *expletive deleted*it by taxing one billionaire, platform.

But, they won't have enough power to push their agenda nationally, so the Democrats will become increasingly marginalized.

I might be overly optimistic, but I still believe that there are a lot of democrats who are also sick of the squad and the crazy far left. We've seen some famous red-pilling recently, and I think there are a lot more out there.

One good thing that might come of the OP prediction is that dems that aren't way out there with Pluto will vote out some of the far left loonies in favor of more centrist Ds. Though again, some of those loonies are in districts with voters as crazy as they are.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: charby on April 28, 2022, 05:32:24 PM
There are some, however, who are still saying that this mid-term is going to be a LOT closer than many are predicting and that the Dems will manage to take a clean majority in the Senate.

I hope not, but even if they do, most are still saying that the Dems are going to lose pretty badly in the House.

What it is, is what it is. Prepare for either scenerio.

For the most part life will still go on if there is a super majority of Democrats, the real *expletive deleted*it show will be watching the left extremes go after the moderates/conservtive leaning democrats.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on April 29, 2022, 06:55:22 AM
I might be overly optimistic, but I still believe that there are a lot of democrats who are also sick of the squad and the crazy far left. We've seen some famous red-pilling recently, and I think there are a lot more out there.

One good thing that might come of the OP prediction is that dems that aren't way out there with Pluto will vote out some of the far left loonies in favor of more centrist Ds. Though again, some of those loonies are in districts with voters as crazy as they are.


Oh yeah, there definitely are a lot of moderate Democrats who are very sick of the Communist wing of their party, either by a Republican challenger or by a squad zombie parasite.

In the same breath, though, they're the ones who are generally most vulnerable to being ousted this November.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Pb on April 29, 2022, 09:54:31 AM
I just hope this postulated Repub majority starts using the word "communist" as freely as those communists use the word "racist" and "privileged" ...and a few others.

<snarl>

Terry, 230RN

A lot of young people don't understand what is wrong with communism.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Pb on April 29, 2022, 09:58:45 AM
Political betting is usually fairly accurate at predicting elections.  While we are really too far out, most gamblers are predicting the Republicans control both the House and the Senate:

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6874/Which-party-will-control-the-Senate-after-2022-election

https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/6892/Which-party-will-win-the-House-in-the-2022-election
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: WLJ on April 29, 2022, 10:00:06 AM
Elon put this up on twitter

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/x383/WLJohnson1/FRcu9TeXEAMjvTM.jpg)
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: WLJ on April 29, 2022, 10:54:51 AM
And apparently some on the left are having issues with Elon's meme

Washington Post’s Philip Bump ‘fixes’ a cartoon meme Elon Musk tweeted and tells us everything it got wrong
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/04/28/washington-posts-philip-bump-fixes-a-cartoon-meme-elon-musk-tweeted-and-tells-us-everything-it-got-wrong/
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: DittoHead on April 29, 2022, 11:25:02 AM
There are some, however, who are still saying that this mid-term is going to be a LOT closer than many are predicting and that the Dems will manage to take a clean majority in the Senate.
I'd be curious who is delusional enough to make such a prediction.
I just hope this postulated Repub majority starts using the word "communist" as freely as those communists use the word "racist" and "privileged" ...and a few others.
You must have missed the memo, communist didn't trigger people enough so now anyone you disagree can be called a groomer/pedo.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: DustinD on April 29, 2022, 11:58:35 AM
In the Wapo rebuttal at the end it shows the center guy went left a bit, but he is now still much farther from the lefty guy than at any other time because lefty guy drifted so far to the left. That isn't really a disagreement.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on May 04, 2022, 07:53:24 AM
Well, Trump's pick for senator in Ohio won his primary in a big way.

AOC's pick for House?

Got pasted pretty good by Uncle Joe's pick.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-nina-turner-shontel-brown-ohio-primary?cmpid=prn_newsstand
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: charby on May 04, 2022, 11:45:34 AM
The recent SCOTUS leak sure throws a monkey wrench into all predictions.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Ben on May 04, 2022, 01:31:30 PM
The recent SCOTUS leak sure throws a monkey wrench into all predictions.  [popcorn]

It's still early, so we're still in "anything can happen" territory, but yeah, this is definitely a big monkey wrench. I heard some good analysis from the tinfoil side that "they" really don't give much of a *expletive deleted*ck about this leak other than it has (for now) really changed the conversation from inflation, crime, etc. and put the Rs on the defensive.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on May 04, 2022, 01:36:32 PM
Yep. Absolutely HUGE "October Surprise."
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Pb on May 05, 2022, 09:04:24 AM
It is a sick country if Republicans have to be on the "defensive" about not dismembering children in the womb.  I did not think it was possible to overturn Roe.  I hope to God I was wrong.  We will have to see.

While abortion will still be widely practiced in the USA if Roe is overturned, it it should be possible to reduce it quite a bit in some of the states, especially my own.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: MillCreek on May 05, 2022, 09:23:51 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-will-finally-get-their-wish-when-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-theyll-come-to-regret-it

Interesting article that Republicans for decades could cozy up to the religious right on abortion since the prospect of Roe being overturned was considered nil.  Now that it has been overturned, will this come back to bite the Republicans on the ankle?
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: K Frame on May 05, 2022, 09:31:06 AM
"Now that it has been overturned, will this come back to bite the Republicans on the ankle? "

Not anymore than getting into bed with the far far left has bitten the Dems.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Pb on May 05, 2022, 11:01:01 AM
Interesting article that Republicans for decades could cozy up to the religious right on abortion since the prospect of Roe being overturned was considered nil.  Now that it has been overturned, will this come back to bite the Republicans on the ankle?

The Republican Party on the national level didn't even have the balls to defund Planned Parenthood.  Overall, they don't care about stopping human abortion (with some obvious exceptions).  On the state level, the case is different in some places.  My state passed an abortion ban, which will hopefully actually take effect soon.
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: MechAg94 on May 05, 2022, 12:09:54 PM
The Republican Party on the national level didn't even have the balls to defund Planned Parenthood.  Overall, they don't care about stopping human abortion (with some obvious exceptions).  On the state level, the case is different in some places.  My state passed an abortion ban, which will hopefully actually take effect soon.
Regardless of someone's stance on whether abortion should be limited or banned, I think most all Republicans didn't want to pay for it.  The spineless R congressional leaders could never stick to their guns enough to do stuff like that. 
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Perd Hapley on May 20, 2022, 10:11:04 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-will-finally-get-their-wish-when-roe-v-wade-is-overturned-theyll-come-to-regret-it

Interesting article that Republicans for decades could cozy up to the religious right on abortion since the prospect of Roe being overturned was considered nil.  Now that it has been overturned, will this come back to bite the Republicans on the ankle?

The author's view on where Americans stand on abortion is simplistic, to say the least. It may be true that the "extreme" position of protecting the life of every unborn person is beyond what most Americans want; but the extremes (no scare quotes needed) on the other side are hardly popular, either.

If anything, scrapping Roe is going to mean both parties will be more accountable to what their constituents actually want (the horror).
Title: Re: 2024: Republican Majority But More Far-Left Dems
Post by: Ben on May 20, 2022, 10:30:00 AM
but the extremes (no scare quotes needed) on the other side are hardly popular, either.

I'm not even sure of that anymore. Regarding this, which I posted in the RvW thread:

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/05/18/abortion-advocate-wont-make-a-distinction-between-a-baby-whos-one-hour-old-and-one-still-in-the-birth-canal/

Basically asking the difference between a baby an hour before and an hour after birth.

I've been playing in Reddit lately, and they keep sending me "topics of interest" emails in topics I have no interest in. Today I got this one:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/ut5b4m/representative_mike_johnson_asking_the_important/

It's apparently a topic where people can rant against whatever non-lib talking point. It appears that 99% of the comments are making fun of Johnson for asking a "ridiculous question". I don't know the demographics of Reddit. I have said here on APS that I believe that the majority of the pro-abortion people are in the "first trimester, or cases of rape and incest, and not for convenient birth control" camp. Reading that Reddit thread has me rethinking that.

Maybe the demographics there are college kids, Twitter/Google/Facebook employees, etc. and not mainstream democrats.