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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: WLJ on May 05, 2022, 09:58:14 AM
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Be aware there may be a serious issue in Kias and Hyundais even after recall inspections and repairs
Kias and Hyundais continue to burn after 5.8 million cars and SUVs recalled
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/up-in-flames/kias-and-hyundais-continue-to-burn-after-5-8-million-cars-and-suvs-recalled
Hyundai and Kia tell owners of nearly 500,000 vehicles to park outside due to fire risk
https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/08/business/hyundai-kia-fire-recall/index.html
Consumer Alert: Kia and Hyundai Issue Park Outside Orders for Select Sportage, K900 and Santa Fe Vehicles
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/consumer-alert-kia-and-hyundai-issue-park-outside-orders-select-sportage-k900-and
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Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.
Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.
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Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.
Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.
It's trying to find a way to France, it knows it is supposed to follow the path of least resistance.
bob
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Well, any new power tech is bound to have problems. Even with steam we had boiler explosions and fires until we learned to handle it.
"Gluk min khukah! Gluk min khukah!*" was probably hollered with the first cave fire.
Terry, 230RN
* "Get the *expletive deleted*ck out ! Get the *expletive deleted*ck out!"
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Lots and lotsa energy in those cells.
Sometimes it gets out and runs around loose.
Cells?
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Cells?
Power cells?
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Using individual cells in series or parallel constitute a battery.
Individual AA or AAA cells are cells. Strung together, they form a battery. The 9UV 9 volt battery is actually a battery, with 6 tiny internal cells of ~1.5 volts each connected together.
1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 9
Battery and cell often get confused because of blurred and slurred usage.
Your 12 Volt car battery is actually 6 ~2 Volt cells hooked together.
Like energy and power are constantly confused. Not the same thing.
Terry
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Your car battery is also probably multiple cells...
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Just for clarification, these articles are about combustion engine cars with faulty ABS modules and/or fuel and oil leaks.
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Using individual cells in series or parallel constitute a battery.
Individual AA or AAA cells are cells. Strung together, they form a battery. The 9UV 9 volt battery is actually a battery, with 6 tiny internal cells of ~1.5 volts each connected together.
1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 + 1.5 = 9
Battery and cell often get confused because of blurred and slurred usage.
Your 12 Volt car battery is actually 6 ~2 Volt cells hooked together.
Like energy and power are constantly confused. Not the same thing.
Terry
But the issue here is automobiles powered by internal combustion engines. We're not talking about electric or even hybrid vehicles.
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Oh ! I'm embarrassed. Never mind. <gulp>
:facepalm:
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But the issue here is automobiles powered by internal combustion engines. We're not talking about electric or even hybrid vehicles.
Well hell, but what does it mean when people talk about cars torching themselves and the first thing many people think of are the current crop of electric vehicles? People are still wary of the technology. ;)
bob
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Well hell, but what does it mean when people talk about cars torching themselves and the first thing many people think of are the current crop of electric vehicles? People are still wary of the technology. ;)
bob
Poor design and shoddy repairs are a problem no matter what the technology.
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More Hyundai woes
Government regulators said that the driver’s and front passenger’s seat belt pretensioners, which tighten the belts in preparation for a crash, can explode upon deployment and send shrapnel throughout the vehicle.
WTF?
Hyundai recalls 239,000 cars for exploding seat belt parts
https://www.wave3.com/2022/05/24/hyundai-recalls-239000-cars-exploding-seat-belt-parts/
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WTF?
Huh. I didn't know that pretensioners use explosives. Some interesting videos online.
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If your airbags blow, your belt tensioners lock...
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Huh. I didn't know that pretensioners use explosives. Some interesting videos online.
Me neither until now which explains my WTF. I had no idea.
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Okay, here's a battery going up
An Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
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Y' know, I think I'll stick with my '97 Outback.
And spare keys only cost about $8.75 per each.
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Okay, here's a battery going up
An Electric Bus Caught Fire After Battery Explosion in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r-yN8SugWM
Was out walking last night. Saw, in somebody's driveway, a Chevy Bolt with charging cable attached. Apparently they're apt to spontaneous combustion. (https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/recall-all-chevy-bolt-vehicles-fire-risk (https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/recall-all-chevy-bolt-vehicles-fire-risk).)
"It's green! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIMPbPDwj_g)"
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Man, we are gonna hafta go nuke on power sooner or later.
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But wait there's more
This time trailer hitch wiring.
No fix yet.
Hyundai, Kia issue recalls, tells owners to park outside due to fire risk
https://www.wlky.com/article/hyundai-kia-issue-recalls-tells-owners-to-park-outside-due-to-fire-risk/40967010
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But wait there's more
This time trailer hitch wiring.
No fix yet.
Hyundai, Kia issue recalls, tells owners to park outside due to fire risk
https://www.wlky.com/article/hyundai-kia-issue-recalls-tells-owners-to-park-outside-due-to-fire-risk/40967010
How long have vehicles had trailer hitches? Why do they need a circuit board for something as simple as trailer wiring?
There are times when I miss my 1947 Hudson pickup. I think the entire wiring harness consisted of three circuits -- each of which was protected by a genuine fuse.
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....
Love Korean BBQ!
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Well, I refused to get a Kia van a few years ago. Looks like I was right.
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Well, I refused to get a Kia van a few years ago. Looks like I was right.
Yeah, because you're a racist! :rofl:
My brother and sister-in-law had an early Kia Sorento that they bought new a couple of model years in, probably 2005 or so.
With the exception of a few issues over the years, the damned thing was virtually bulletproof for them. Well in excess of 200,000 miles.
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More Hyundai woes
WTF?
Hyundai recalls 239,000 cars for exploding seat belt parts
https://www.wave3.com/2022/05/24/hyundai-recalls-239000-cars-exploding-seat-belt-parts/
Those crafty Koreans found a way to repurpose leftover land mines . . .
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Yeah, because you're a racist! :rofl:
My parents were sort of berating me for not wanting to buy the Kia van. And then they went out and bought it for themselves. It was really strange. They have not done anything like before.
We got a Sienna instead.
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And if that was not enough
Progressive, State Farm refuse to cover certain Hyundai, Kia models due to theft
https://www.wdrb.com/news/business/progressive-state-farm-refuse-to-cover-certain-hyundai-kia-models-due-to-theft/article_2144dab8-a10d-11ed-80fb-93321f066900.html
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The Kia Boyz are VERY active in St. Louis... Playing GTA:STL like you wouldn't believe... They'll steal something, then drive it to play bumper cars, and when it won't drive any more, they'll steal something else.
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And if that was not enough
Progressive, State Farm refuse to cover certain Hyundai, Kia models due to theft
https://www.wdrb.com/news/business/progressive-state-farm-refuse-to-cover-certain-hyundai-kia-models-due-to-theft/article_2144dab8-a10d-11ed-80fb-93321f066900.html
Steve Lehto recently did a video on YouTube about the Kia/Hyundai theft problem. He reported that one (or both?) of the manufacturers is making steering wheel locks available to the owners of the affected models. Curiously, though, they are sending the locks to police departments rather than to their dealers, who would be the people who know best who bought the cars.
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Three anti-crime organizations have asked the social media platform to remove “how to” videos showing how to steal Kia and Hyundai cars.
A simple search on YouTube gets you several videos showing how people do it.
The National Insurance Crime Bureau says since these videos have started popping up, police departments across the country are reporting drastic increases in Kia and Hyundai thefts.
Anti-crime organizations asking YouTube to remove videos showing how to steal Kia and Hyundais
https://www.wave3.com/2023/02/01/anti-crime-organizations-asking-youtube-remove-videos-showing-how-steal-kia-hyundais/
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And the troubles continue
The recalls cover multiple models from the 2010 through 2015 model years including Hyundai's Santa Fe SUV and Kia's Sorrento SUV.
Documents posted Wednesday by U.S. safety regulators say the anti-lock brake control module can leak fluid and cause an electrical short, which can touch off a fire while the vehicles are parked or being driven.
The automakers are advising owners to park outdoors and away from structures until repairs are done.
Hyundai and Kia recall nearly 3.4 million vehicles due to fire risk and urge owners to park outdoors
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/hyundai-and-kia-recall-nearly-3-4-million-vehicles-due-to-fire-risk-and-urge/article_10a47a55-ea47-5d11-8d1f-6dac4274589c.html
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They're not going to notify the individual owners until sometime in Nov.
Kia says in documents that it will send notification letters to owners starting Nov. 14. For Hyundai the date is Nov. 21.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/hyundai-and-kia-recall-nearly-34-million-vehicles-due/ar-AA1hmUqT
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The recalls cover multiple models from the 2010 through 2015 model years including Hyundai's Santa Fe SUV and Kia's Sorrento SUV.
That explains why they haven't notified me - I have a 2011 Elantra. I just rolled over 70,600 yesterday. =D