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Title: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 27, 2022, 09:37:16 AM
Now that I have a deck and am getting the back yard to more what I want it, I'm considering getting a dedicated gas griddle, primarily for summer use.

I'm thinking of one of the Cuisinarts -- https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CGG-888-Stainless-22-Inch-Outdoor/dp/B07S6HFQCZ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=3McVv&content-id=amzn1.sym.bbb6bbd8-d236-47cb-b42f-734cb0cacc1f&pf_rd_p=bbb6bbd8-d236-47cb-b42f-734cb0cacc1f&pf_rd_r=TG5WE2QTYYKMQSAQBWXX&pd_rd_wg=I1Tnr&pd_rd_r=27baab1c-08e4-4d63-bcc1-df217ca741b3&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mi&th=1

Anyone have any experience with that particular model?
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 27, 2022, 09:39:07 AM
No experience with that model, but do you already have a gas grill? If not, maybe get a nice grill and have a griddle handy for when it's needed. Much more function for the same use of space.

Brad
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 27, 2022, 09:42:40 AM
No. I have a Weber charcoal kettle.

My thoughts on getting the griddle are to keep summer cooking heat out of my house, especially my galley kitchen.

I have an induction burner, but when I really want pan fry a mess of vegetables the induction burner isn't large enough. The griddle would be more than large enough to do meat and veggies at the same time.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 27, 2022, 09:56:53 AM
Have a turkey fryer? If you do, a simple cast iron griddle might be just the ticket.

Actually kinda like the griddle you linked, but we already have a nice grill I can slap a griddle on if needed. Negative SWMBO points if I get anything else for the porch.

Brad
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Ben on May 27, 2022, 10:03:00 AM
I would (well I do, actually) lean towards a propane grill and a $15 cast iron griddle to go with it just for the versatility.

Admittedly, I have no experience with a dedicated propane griddle, so don't know if they are significantly better than a griddle on a grill. Bacon and pancakes and stuff come out fine on my setup though.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: MillCreek on May 27, 2022, 10:04:36 AM
I agree with Brad in that a gas grill with a stand-alone griddle or griddle plate offers more functionality. I have a Lodge cast iron griddle that I use on the gas grill when needed. https://www.lodgecastiron.com/product/pro-grid-reversibile-grill-griddle?sku=LPGI3
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Ben on May 27, 2022, 10:07:33 AM
I agree with Brad in that a gas grill with a stand-alone griddle or griddle plate offers more functionality. I have a Lodge cast iron griddle that I use on the gas grill when needed. https://www.lodgecastiron.com/product/pro-grid-reversibile-grill-griddle?sku=LPGI3

Yikes! That's the one I have. They have really gone up in price. Though I just checked my Amazon history and mine was $25, not $15.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 27, 2022, 10:24:00 AM
All my camping friends have them. I'm going to get one this summer.

Most of them have the Walmart one or a Blackstone, everyone is happy with theirs. The universal comment is don't get the small one, step up to the 24" wide one.

I'm going to get a Blackstone 24" with 2 burners so I can in theory have 2 temperature zones.

I already have a Weber charcoal and Weber propane grill, also various cast iron, stainless and aluminum griddles. I want to be able to grill on grates and fry at the same time.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 27, 2022, 10:34:55 AM
No turkey fryer, no desire to get one.

Even less desire to ever have a propane grill again. When I grill, I grill on charcoal.

I like the form factor of the Cuisinart and it's more than big enough for me. It seems as if it's a good piece of kit, but appearances (and even brand names) can be deceiving.



Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 27, 2022, 01:04:53 PM
Wind plays hell with them too, since there is a air gap between the burner and the griddle.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 27, 2022, 01:14:31 PM
I just pulled the trigger on a 22" Blackstone Adventure Ready Griddle.

https://blackstoneproducts.com/products/adventure-ready-22-griddle-with-hood-and-stand
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 27, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
The only thing I don't like about the Cuisinart you linked to is that the griddle doesn't have any side walls. Some times it's nice when grilling small pieces to have a wall to push against for flipping purposes.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 27, 2022, 03:28:12 PM
The only thing I don't like about the Cuisinart you linked to is that the griddle doesn't have any side walls. Some times it's nice when grilling small pieces to have a wall to push against for flipping purposes.

Now that's a damned good point that I had not considered. I'll have to think about that.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: BobR on May 27, 2022, 04:48:04 PM
I keep a 17" Blackstone in the RV for places that don't allow charcoal grills (yes, they are out there). I also keep an infra-red grill (Mr. Steak) for the same reason. I like the griddle, it is a good size for just the two of us but for anymore I can see where a larger one would be much nicer.

bob
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 27, 2022, 04:52:12 PM
The 17" Blackstone with the stand and the parts I'd need to get it to run off a 20 pound bulk bottle would be nearly $300, or double the Cuisinart.

And the bottle would be sitting out there.

I know Blackstone is pretty much the gold standard in this kind of griddle, but I'm just not crazy about the form factor.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: MikeB on May 27, 2022, 08:03:06 PM
I have a Blackstone Griddle. I don’t know that the brand matters that much, but I wouldn’t go back to a regular outdoor propane grill instead of the griddle. I do occasionally use a charcoal grill if I really want that smoke flavor.

What I can cook outdoors though is greatly expanded. Basically you have the same type of griddle used in most restaurants to cook most everything. Fish, Veggies, Stir Fry, Cheesesteaks. Bacon, Eggs, etc. it can also do a real nice job on steaks and burgers. I do sometimes use charcoal for those though.

I have tried those griddle tops for grills before, it was never as nice as the dedicated Blackstone.

Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 28, 2022, 12:32:15 AM
I have a Blackstone Griddle. I don’t know that the brand matters that much, but I wouldn’t go back to a regular outdoor propane grill instead of the griddle. I do occasionally use a charcoal grill if I really want that smoke flavor.

What I can cook outdoors though is greatly expanded. Basically you have the same type of griddle used in most restaurants to cook most everything. Fish, Veggies, Stir Fry, Cheesesteaks. Bacon, Eggs, etc. it can also do a real nice job on steaks and burgers. I do sometimes use charcoal for those though.

I have tried those griddle tops for grills before, it was never as nice as the dedicated Blackstone.

I hear that a lot, but I love to do grill grate seared meat and veggies like kabobs. You can't do that on a flat grill. It's the caramelized sugars of char and heat that only a grate grill can give.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Jim147 on May 28, 2022, 12:36:28 AM
I looked for a Blackstone Tailgator for the last few years but haven't seen one in person. Half grill half flat top. I thought it would be good for late night dogs or burgers and do breakfast on the weekends.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 29, 2022, 08:50:25 AM
The tailgator is interesting, but it's really designed to be portable. I'm looking at something I can leave up year round (covered when not in use) and it's not looking like a ton of exposed stuff.

I did come across a very nice one that was designed to be a built in for an outdoor kitchen...

Only $5,000.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Boomhauer on May 29, 2022, 09:41:55 AM
We have a black stone and love it. The black stones seem to have started out as portable for grilling out for camping and such.

Our next one, regardless of brand, will have a built in lid and will be half griddle half grates. Ours is a basic black stone
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 29, 2022, 10:54:49 AM
Home Depot has a Royal Gourmet that looks promising, as well

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Royal-Gourmet-2-Burner-Propane-Gas-Grill-Griddle-with-Fixed-Side-Tables-GB2000/304015198

Not quite as powerful as the Cuisinart, and the propane bottle just hangs on the side, and it doesn't have a lid, but it's got curbs along the edges (something Charby mentions as being very useful) and I think the square shape is a bit more useful.

The size is about right for me, as well, but then again so is the Cuisinart.

ANALYSIS PARALYSIS TIME!
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 29, 2022, 12:38:07 PM
Go browse around Walmart.com. The Blackstone Adventure that I ordered is $194 with the adapter hose.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: T.O.M. on May 29, 2022, 01:02:54 PM
When I was still working with the Scout troop, they used a two burner grill with a cast iron griddle that fit over the two burners.  Probably 32" wide.  Surely more than you need.  Nice thing is with the griddle that size is you had hot and warm spots, which is useful when cooking for more than  one.  Gotta watch your grease drain or you'll end up with a grease puddle on your deck. 
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 29, 2022, 04:09:02 PM
Go browse around Walmart.com. The Blackstone Adventure that I ordered is $194 with the adapter hose.

There's no place that I can see to hang the 20 lb tank. It needs to sit on the ground, which is exactly what I do NOT want to do on my deck. I don't feel like dealing with the tank rusting all over my deck.

Yep, found a picture on Walmart.com. No tank rack, no thanks.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: RocketMan on May 29, 2022, 06:37:01 PM
There's no place that I can see to hang the 20 lb tank. It needs to sit on the ground, which is exactly what I do NOT want to do on my deck. I don't feel like dealing with the tank rusting all over my deck.

Yep, found a picture on Walmart.com. No tank rack, no thanks.

Can you come up with a separate tank rack that will suit your needs?
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 30, 2022, 12:13:06 AM
Got to thinking... if all you want is something to use intermitently, why not an electric griddle? Plug it in, heats in a couple minutes, use it, wipe it off, and store til next time. Quick, easy, and no semi-permanent use of space on your porch.

We have one with as much cooking surface as the on you first linked. Is up to temp in only minutes and cleans easily. You could replace it several times over for what even a modest gas grill costs. If you don't have a convenient plug on your porch, a 20 ft 12ga extension cord is an easy fix.

Brad
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on May 30, 2022, 01:13:03 AM
There's no place that I can see to hang the 20 lb tank. It needs to sit on the ground, which is exactly what I do NOT want to do on my deck. I don't feel like dealing with the tank rusting all over my deck.

Yep, found a picture on Walmart.com. No tank rack, no thanks.

They do make a plastic propane tank foot that would keep the metal off the wood.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 30, 2022, 07:48:21 AM
"We have one with as much cooking surface as the on you first linked."

Make? Model?

I'd not considered electric, but that's a very interesting thought.

Just came across this one...

https://www.more-discount.com/products/88987-E-Series-22-Electric-Tabletop-Griddle-with-Prep-Cart?currency=USD&variant_sku_code=11842-0-0-0-0-0-0&gclid=Cj0KCQjw1tGUBhDXARIsAIJx01m6lL1r1jSrfppfZyXZYKa9RHq4Zs47padNifKiYRp3fA7A6YvY1lUaArzIEALw_wcB

And yes, I would like it to live outdoors. I don't have a lot of indoor storage for something like this. I don't mind it living on the deck, really.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 30, 2022, 07:59:05 AM
OK, what hell...

I'm seeing prices on that E22 anywhere between $100 and $350.

Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Brad Johnson on May 30, 2022, 08:15:23 AM
"We have one with as much cooking surface as the on you first linked."

Make? Model?

I'd not considered electric, but that's a very interesting thought. .

I was thinking more along the lines of a simple tabletop unit rather than something on its own cart.

This is the one we have.

Presto Ceramic 22-inch 07062 Electric Griddle with removable handles, Black, One Size https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G7DM7X6/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_i_D3H87SJC5ZWMF59E9YB2

Brad
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on May 30, 2022, 09:40:44 AM
Yeah...

So, I'd need a table... I'd need the griddle. I'd need somewhere to store both the table (if it were collapsible) and the griddle. I'd have to carry the table and the griddle outside everytime I wanted to use it, then carry a dirty griddle (and likely a grease-splattered table) back inside....

I might as well just continue to cook on the stove top for all of that hassle.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 08, 2022, 11:43:44 AM
Cast iron skillet on your Weber. You could do that tonight.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 08, 2022, 11:52:21 AM
Cast iron skillet on your Weber. You could do that tonight.

Really?

Wow!

As in, wow, I've tried it, wow, it's a pain in the ass to control the heat, wow, it's NOT optimal, Wow, it's not worth doing, and Wow, just NO.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 08, 2022, 12:06:02 PM
Really?

Wow!

As in, wow, I've tried it, wow, it's a pain in the ass to control the heat, wow, it's NOT optimal, Wow, it's not worth doing, and Wow, just NO.

Well your Goldilocks syndrome cheap ass was bitching about every other option.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 08, 2022, 02:18:07 PM
If you haven't figured it out by now, I find everyone AND everything LACKING!

Except Seren.

She's absolutely perfect.

Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 08, 2022, 02:21:22 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-CSG-100-Surface-Thermometer/dp/B06XSJRSCZ/ref=asc_df_B06XSJRSCZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=198068685752&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10588867539665772885&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9017973&hvtargid=pla-359023743773&th=1
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Jim147 on June 08, 2022, 02:24:09 PM
I know where he can stick that.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 08, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
I know where he can stick that.

He'll bitch, even if you use lube. He'll bitch that the thermometer is the wrong brand and you used the wrong lube.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 08, 2022, 04:56:37 PM
Oh waaah.

Everyone knows I'm a grumpy bastard.

What's wrong with you two twats?
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: MillCreek on June 08, 2022, 04:59:20 PM
He won't complain if you use this: https://www.baconaddicts.com/products/bacon-lube-bacon-flavored-personal-lubricant
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: Jim147 on June 08, 2022, 10:26:06 PM
We all know you are a grumpy old bastard.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 09, 2022, 11:02:35 PM
My Blackstone arrived, seasoning starts on Sunday.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 10, 2022, 08:53:04 AM
Woot has the Cuisinart for $170.

I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 11, 2022, 12:03:08 PM
Woot has the Cuisinart for $170.

I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it.

Did you buy it crabby spice nugget?
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 11, 2022, 12:44:05 PM
Nope, I'm back to waffling about it.

Hum...

Waffles...

I need to look at a waffle iron...
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 11, 2022, 12:58:49 PM
Nope, I'm back to waffling about it.

Hum...

Waffles...

I need to look at a waffle iron...

Cheese and rice, don't start a damn thread about which whale oil powered waffle iron is the best.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 11, 2022, 01:08:48 PM
Cheese and rice, don't start a damn thread about which whale oil powered waffle iron is the best.

You know, I never started this thread by asking which griddle was best.

I asked if anyone had any experience with the Cuisinart.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 11, 2022, 01:23:32 PM
You know, I never started this thread by asking which griddle was best.

I asked if anyone had any experience with the Cuisinart.

Ok, don't start a thread on does anyone have any experience with a Griswold No 8 waffle iron.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 12, 2022, 01:29:09 PM
This seasoning process of the new griddle is taking forever. 
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 17, 2022, 05:20:42 PM
Hey grumpy fun crapper...

https://www.menards.com/main/outdoors/grills-outdoor-cooking/gas-grills-griddles/megamaster-2-burner-propane-gas-griddle/720-0785a/p-177023397707090-c-1460387142867.htm?tid=2571170459430965752&ipos=1
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 17, 2022, 05:54:59 PM
Cheese and rice, don't start a damn thread about which whale oil powered waffle iron is the best.

I've got a cast iron Belknap #8 waffle iron that sits in a cast iron ring that is placed over a burner. Makes a great waffle. I guess you could use a whale oil fire to cook on.

Looks like this but mine has a different base.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/321937073359716007/
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: K Frame on June 18, 2022, 06:50:27 AM
That's an interesting piece of kit. Not sure if I'd get the same price if I had it shipped to my house or not, as the closest Menard's is 215 miles from me.

Would be more interested if it had an integral cover/lid, though.


But, right now, given how sick I've been, a griddle has fallen to below the bottom of the list of things to worry about.
Title: Re: Outdoor Gas Griddles, specifically...
Post by: charby on June 18, 2022, 02:49:12 PM
That's an interesting piece of kit. Not sure if I'd get the same price if I had it shipped to my house or not, as the closest Menard's is 215 miles from me.

Would be more interested if it had an integral cover/lid, though.


But, right now, given how sick I've been, a griddle has fallen to below the bottom of the list of things to worry about.

I looked up shipping to Arlington VA, $43.