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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: gunsmith on June 12, 2022, 02:27:43 AM
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https://www.dw.com/en/us-police-arrest-31-men-of-white-nationalist-hate-group-for-conspiracy-to-riot/a-62103382
I instantly thought, after reading the article, that at least 25 of these guys are government agents of some sort.
I'm your average aggressive extremist, no way would i pile into the back of a uhaul with a bunch of dudes to go disrupt
a protest or counter protest, I would drive my own vehicle or not go.
By getting in the back of the uhaul, these guys displayed their commitment to mass transportation - which we all know is a communist vector for covid.
I bet you the only real crime is seatbelt infractions
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I guess there's no such thing as a white equalicist any more.
"Control the language and you control the issue."
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From the article:
Patriot Front is defined as "a white nationalist hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center,
SPLC is a left wing hate group, so referencing them at all automatically makes the story suspect.
I instantly thought, after reading the article, that at least 25 of these guys are government agents of some sort . . .
What percentage of a group has to be made up of undercover government agents or informants before it can be regarded as a government agency?
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We've talked about this group here before. Some say they are agents provocateur, others that they are just a group of knuckleheads. Khaki tac pants and navy blue shirts are kind of the unofficial uniform of feds involved in LE, emergency response, etc. I would imagine even dumb fed agents would find another "uniform". Add in the Home Depot plastic shields, and I tend toward "knuckleheads".
All that said, "conspiracy to riot"? That's kind of a thought crime. Given the information I've seen in the news thus far, I see no evidence past "counter-protester". It seems more like the local cops just wanted to stop potential fights before they started, and as usual, the non-leftist group was the one picked on.
I've been seeing a bit of local news regarding this event in the last week, and many, many people, while not caring about previous lgbtqxyz events, were not happy with this one. Way too much transvesite-child interaction planned, as well as a satanic church that was going to "unbaptize" people. Maybe if the homos didn't decide to go overboard, they wouldn't have grabbed the attention of counter groups.
Anyway, shouldn't they be arresting everyone involved in "Shutdown DC" right about now?
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We've talked about this group here before. Some say they are agents provocateur, others that they are just a group of knuckleheads. Khaki tac pants and navy blue shirts are kind of the unofficial uniform of feds involved in LE, emergency response, etc. I would imagine even dumb fed agents would find another "uniform". Add in the Home Depot plastic shields, and I tend toward "knuckleheads".
Seems like it was a lot longer back than Dec 21
https://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=65722.0
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I'll also add that antifa was making social media noise about showing up to this event, which likely contributed to opposing forces showing up.
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If "conspiracy to riot" is a crime, why aren't antifa and BLM mobs being arrested en masse?
Or is it only a crime when right-wing groups do it?
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If "conspiracy to riot" is a crime, why aren't antifa and BLM mobs being arrested en masse?
Or is it only a crime when right-wing groups do it?
Well, they did find shin guards and one (1) "smoke grenade"*. That's a lot more dangerous than the normal antifa materiel of moltovs, urine bombs, pepper spray, and lasers. Oh, and bats. I almost forgot the bats.
*Not a crime to have in Idaho, AFAIK.
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Interesting. The early "official" report was that a random citizen staying at the same hotel as the group made a 911 call. Now we have a cop on video saying that the cops had informants.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/12/because-thats-not-shady-af-what-id-police-officer-leaked-to-media-about-patriot-front-says-so-much-and-aint-none-of-it-any-good/
Edit: The cop in the video says that they had "spears" in the truck. Spears, or flagpoles?
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Interesting. The early "official" report was that a random citizen staying at the same hotel as the group made a 911 call. Now we have a cop on video saying that the cops had informants.
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/12/because-thats-not-shady-af-what-id-police-officer-leaked-to-media-about-patriot-front-says-so-much-and-aint-none-of-it-any-good/
Shades of the Michigan Gov kidnapping plot
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From the article:
SPLC is a left wing hate group, so referencing them at all automatically makes the story suspect.
^^^ Correct.
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Gawd, SPLC ??
I missed that somehow, they're either looney or grifters or both.
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Is this the same group that showed up in D.C. not too long ago?
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Is this the same group that showed up in D.C. not too long ago?
Appears to be, at least by name. I posted a link to the original thread above
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTGXwhX0tk0
live right now
Matt Bracken just said Rousseau, the founder of the the fake hate group, outright said he would create a fake hate group and stupid people would join and he would report everything to the FBI.
IF YOU MISS THE LIVE STREAM, it gets uploaded on rumble/odysee
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"We have informants"
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/12/because-thats-not-shady-af-what-id-police-officer-leaked-to-media-about-patriot-front-says-so-much-and-aint-none-of-it-any-good/
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(https://i.redd.it/bobalv0ju9591.jpg)
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https://www.npr.org/2022/06/13/1104648289/patriot-front-arrests-idaho-updates?utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2CnFhoI4OAS4Yox8_NrNuoWuxSYpKFy6BBC0jyQWFuOEnmEIlIxk-hnLw
Half the people calling the PD are in favor of the arrests and half of the calls are not.
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Yeah, I'm not taking seriously much of what White has to say. He shut someone down at the press conference yesterday who asked him to respond to what his Captain said about having "informants".
He laughed at the person and said he knows of no such video even though it's all over the internet, then told him to be quiet. If the cop was wrong all he had to do was say that, not insinuate that someone was a crazy conspiracy theorist for asking about a widely available video that White claims not to have ever heard of.
In the end, this was nothing more than deciding to act on "pre-crime". Nothing released so far indicates plans for a riot. All the detainees were released on $300 bond and didn't even have to appear in court. That's a harassment arrest, not an arrest for a crime. They keep talking about "weapons and evidence of riot" but have released none of it. They just keep repeating, "Shin guards, shields, and a smoke bomb".
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Now that they got the Great White Hate Group the rest of the year should be perfectly peaceful right?
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Yeah, I'm not taking seriously much of what White has to say. He shut someone down at the press conference yesterday who asked him to respond to what his Captain said about having "informants".
He laughed at the person and said he knows of no such video even though it's all over the internet, then told him to be quiet. If the cop was wrong all he had to do was say that, not insinuate that someone was a crazy conspiracy theorist for asking about a widely available video that White claims not to have ever heard of.
In the end, this was nothing more than deciding to act on "pre-crime". Nothing released so far indicates plans for a riot. All the detainees were released on $300 bond and didn't even have to appear in court. That's a harassment arrest, not an arrest for a crime. They keep talking about "weapons and evidence of riot" but have released none of it. They just keep repeating, "Shin guards, shields, and a smoke bomb".
Considering what Antifa is allowed to get away with, you pretty much need some protection if you want to peacefully protest and aren't a protected leftist group.
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Now that they got the Great White Hate Group the rest of the year should be perfectly peaceful right?
No. They have another one of these gay things in Boise in September, and the local lefty media is already on the fainting couches about domestic terrorists showing up.
I mentioned above that people here not into them have pretty much ignored the pride events. It wasn't until this year that regular people have been getting riled up because they are really going overboard with in your face stuff and getting young children involved. The majority of people in this state will not accept that.
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No. They have another one of these gay things in Boise in September, and the local lefty media is already on the fainting couches about domestic terrorists showing up.
I mentioned above that people here not into them have pretty much ignored the pride events. It wasn't until this year that regular people have been getting riled up because they are really going overboard with in your face stuff and getting young children involved. The majority of people in this state will not accept that.
I think they are waving dildos in kids' faces because we were ignoring them. Not sure where they go next if we ignore this too, actual live sex with animals? ("donkey show")
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I think they are waving dildos in kids' faces because we were ignoring them. Not sure where they go next if we ignore this too, actual live sex with animals? ("donkey show")
These events everywhere have gone form "gay pride" to "transgender uber alles". I'm surprised the mainstream gay community just rolls with it, because it's not a good look for them.
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I think the "mainstream Gay Community" is at home or at work right now.
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I think the "mainstream Gay Community" is at home or at work right now.
As if any of the mainstream media would listen if they did say anything against it.
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More evidence is slowly being released. Probably slowly so that it can be forgotten, since it appears more and more that these guys were gonna do no more than they always do, which is chant and march.
They're really digging when the riot gear is composed of "tactical medical kits".
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/crime/court-documents-cda-pride-riot/293-b355c342-4d52-4fa7-8325-1dc506a2c0bb
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They're really digging when the riot gear is composed of "tactical medical kits".
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/crime/court-documents-cda-pride-riot/293-b355c342-4d52-4fa7-8325-1dc506a2c0bb
Probably out there trying to help people, like Kyle R did. A precursor to shooting white criminals in self defense. Frikin racists...
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From the article:
SPLC is a left wing hate group, so referencing them at all automatically makes the story suspect.
Their "hate map" : https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map (https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map)
I noticed they flagged a church 45 minutes from me. Checked out the church's website. Independent fundamental baptist and KVJ only. (quirky, and wrong, but not evil.) Nothing that tells me that they're evil people.
And list of "hate" groups: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups)
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Their "hate map" : https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map (https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map) I noticed they flagged a church 45 minutes from me. Checked out their website. Independent fundamental baptist and KVJ only. (quirky, and wrong, but not evil.) Nothing that tells me that they're evil people.
And list of "hate" groups: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups (https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups)
It would be fun if we could get a group (or some bots) to spam their inbox with information about some extremist hate groups they ought to flag. Obviously, I'm talking about BLM, the Democratic Party, Planned Parenthood, etc.
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More fainting couch antics from CNN. People could have just ignored these knuckleheads, let them march and chant and move on. Instead they made them into a domestic terrorist bogeyman.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/14/us/idaho-pride-conspiracy-to-riot-group-documents/index.html
"(One) document was typed and discussed the group being there to raise a voice against the moral depravity which permits events such as this to take place,"
More than half of Idaho feels this way.
tems taken into evidence from the box truck and one other vehicle believed to be associated with the group included "fashioned metal shields, flags on abnormally long metal poles and voice amplification type devices," according to the affidavit.
"Abnormally long metal flag poles". ;/
"Voice amplification devices". Do you mean bullorns? ;/
several of the men tucked "a hard plastic type insert, inside the hat, similar to a hard hat worn by constructions workers," the declaration states. Several men wore plastic shin guards and other protective gear and others carried tactical medical kits, radios, and cameras and digital recording devices on their persons.
"The adorned equipment was similar in nature to our law enforcement riot control equipment utilized when we are anticipating a physical altercation," Gilbert writes in the court document.
Oh no! Bump caps! We'd better arrest blue collar workers everywhere. They may riot at any moment!
"Similar to police riot control equipment". Do you mean protective equipment cops wear during riot control? I've never seen shin guards or bump helmets with mechanisms that deploy CS gas.
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More fainting couch antics from CNN. People could have just ignored these knuckleheads, let them march and chant and move on. Instead they made them into a domestic terrorist bogeyman.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/14/us/idaho-pride-conspiracy-to-riot-group-documents/index.html
More than half of Idaho feels this way.
"Abnormally long metal flag poles". ;/
"Voice amplification devices". Do you mean bullorns? ;/
Oh no! Bump caps! We'd better arrest blue collar workers everywhere. They may riot at any moment!
"Similar to police riot control equipment". Do you mean protective equipment cops wear during riot control? I've never seen shin guards or bump helmets with mechanisms that deploy CS gas.
BLM "protests" see most all of those things and more and are not call riots.
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Patriot Front Protesters Release Bodycam Video of Their Arrest — Police and Feds Sent at Least 10 Vehicles and Pulled Guns Out to Arrest 31 Unarmed Protesters
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/patriot-front-protesters-release-bodycam-video-arrest-police-feds-sent-least-10-vehicles-pulled-guns-arrest-31-unarmed-protesters/
They show this picture, but I am not sure where that is in the video links.
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/protesters-ground-patriot-front-guns.jpg)
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Patriot Front Protesters Release Bodycam Video of Their Arrest — Police and Feds Sent at Least 10 Vehicles and Pulled Guns Out to Arrest 31 Unarmed Protesters
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/patriot-front-protesters-release-bodycam-video-arrest-police-feds-sent-least-10-vehicles-pulled-guns-arrest-31-unarmed-protesters/
They show this picture, but I am not sure where that is in the video links.
[img]https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/protesters-ground-patriot-front-guns.jp
The video at that link is the one the CdA police chief denies exists. Specifically the CdA police captain at 8:49.
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When are they going to arrest antifa goons at gunpoint? Or the folks illegally picketing the homes of Supreme Court members?
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Is the front cop Lucas Black from Tokyo Drift?
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Those looked like tear gas grenade guns. Don't see any other firearms in that shot.
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Those looked like tear gas grenade guns. Don't see any other firearms in that shot.
Guns on their belt no doubt.
Note one even has his hand on his
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Guns on their belt no doubt.
Note one even has his hand on his
No doubt, but the point was the cops weren't pointing anything other than gas grenade guns at the supposed bad guys.
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Seems kind of close for tear gas. Bean bags maybe?
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Seems kind of close for tear gas. Bean bags maybe?
Hadn't thought of that. Could be. I'm sure they didn't want to risk zapping any of their informants or imbedded agents.
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How on earth did Patriot Front get a bullhorn that's marked FBI?
(https://i0.wp.com/www.survivethenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1655073783_Oops-Patriot-Front-Member-Was-Arrested-in-Idaho-Carrying-Megaphone.jpg?w=911&ssl=1)
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How on earth did Patriot Front get a bullhorn that's marked FBI?
it's probably a novelty sticker of some kind.
but a majority of em likely on some agency payroll
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How on earth did Patriot Front get a bullhorn that's marked FBI?
(https://i0.wp.com/www.survivethenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1655073783_Oops-Patriot-Front-Member-Was-Arrested-in-Idaho-Carrying-Megaphone.jpg?w=911&ssl=1)
Per gunsmith's post, it's an anti-FBI novelty sticker. Information and other images about the sticker are floating around the web, though you might have to dig a bit because the story has aged.
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How on earth did Patriot Front get a bullhorn that's marked FBI?
[img]https://i0.wp.com/www.survivethenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/1655073783_Oops-Patriot-Front-Member-Was-Arrested-in-Idaho-Carrying-Megaphone.jpg?w=911&ssl=1
Not bullhorn. "Voice amplification device". That's how the cops reported it to make it sound rioty and tactical.
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https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/extremist-group-tried-to-operate-in-the-shadows-then-31-were-arrested-in-idaho/
The Patriot Front is the latest in a long line of PNW groups.
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you know, all these right wing hate groups and I never get invited!!! I am beginning to feel left out.
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(Oops - first posted in the wrong thread. I moved it here).
I guess this goes here, since the subject was discussed further up the thread.
Boise is now having their "gay pride" thing next week. I doubt Patriot Front will make an appearance, but I expect some kind of protest that will be picked up by the MSM as an extremist attack. Why? For the same reasons I outlined earlier.
I had mentioned that they have had these gay pride things for a while, but people here mostly did the "live and let live" thing. The reason the CdA event got the Patriot Front and others to show up is because this year they decided to do stuff like have satanists show up (that was cancelled at the last minute) and also did a bunch of "child friendly" gender bender stuff like drag queen story hour.
The one in Boise is doing the same thing this year. The linked local news story below doesn't mention it of course, but the twitchy link does. They are one-upping the CdA event and featuring "drag queen kids" dancing around on stage. Minors doing sexually explicit stage dancing, and they wonder why they are being targeted by protestors. I was surprised to see the corporate sponsors, who may or not know that the event is exploiting children. Since the news story didn't mention the kids, I'm guessing the event PR department also didn't mention it when looking for sponsors. A few of those sponsors are fairly religious oriented local businesses.
https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/208/boise-pride-festival-increasing-private-security-for-2022-event/277-71f40828-ea7f-4c49-adb3-d1fbe64387ca
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/09/06/festival-sponsored-by-the-city-of-boise-and-other-corporate-sponsors-features-drag-kids-segment/
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The Mayor is all in:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcEdoXhaUAMClSO?format=jpg&name=medium)
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The Mayor is all in:
She is such a jackass.
I saw that what I speculated appears true: The sponsors were not informed of the kids on the stripper poles. Zion Bank has already apologized and dropped out. The rebuttal from the gayz was, of course, "Extremists!!!!!":
"The drag kids performance is a celebration of self-expression and confidence," Boise Pride wrote on social media. "The only perversion and sexualization of this performance are coming from extremists and people like Dorothy Moon, who are twisting it into something it is not."
https://idahonews.com/news/local/childrens-drag-show-at-boise-pride-festival-draws-controversy
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Minors dressed in drag dancing provocatively is not perversion and sexualization of children.
Our culture is actually opposite world now. The exact opposite of reality is promoted by "educators", government, corporations, and the media continually 24/7.
Our secular culture not only doesn't have any good arguments against what is happening this is actually the logical conclusion of secular society. Some type of viral form of disconnect from objective reality into subjective realities that don't really exist. We should be especially afraid now that this destructive world view has made inroads into science and engineering.
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Minors dressed in drag dancing provocatively is not perversion and sexualization of children.
Our culture is actually opposite world now. The exact opposite of reality is promoted by "educators", government, corporations, and the media continually 24/7.
Our secular culture not only doesn't have any good arguments against what is happening this is actually the logical conclusion of secular society. Some type of viral form of disconnect from objective reality into subjective realities that don't really exist. We should be especially afraid now that this destructive world view has made inroads into science and engineering.
Isn't that what Paul predicted in the last half of Romans 1? (maybe it's chapter 2, but I think it's 1 right after the greetings and salutation)
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Isn't that what Paul predicted in the last half of Romans 1? (maybe it's chapter 2, but I think it's 1 right after the greetings and salutation)
Yep, it follows the section in my sig line from Rom 1.
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The State of Idaho (what were they doing sponsoring it anyway?) and Idaho Power have also dropped out of sponsorship roles, both stating they were unaware of the child pornography at the time of sponsorship.
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https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1568014441425563649?s=20&t=AfAQ4bZIlOpaRSj3ZLCCCg
Apparently the parade has decided not to bring the kids out. Not, of course, because it's inappropriate for prepubescents children to celebrate their sexuality (regardless of the type), but for their safety. Stand by for manufactured threats from [rolls D20 of oppressors] white supremacists and MAGA-Republicans.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcKzhuJacAAzx5N?format=jpg&name=large)
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Only an extremist would object to children being used as highly sexualized political props.
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Yeah, they're already talking "safety concerns and extremists". Seems to be a prime liberal talking point upon disagreement about anything, because it's extreme to question the morality of a ten year old boy dressed like a ten year old girl hooker dancing on a pole.
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Yeah, they're already talking "safety concerns and extremists". Seems to be a prime liberal talking point upon disagreement about anything, because it's extreme to question the morality of a ten year old boy dressed like a ten year old girl hooker dancing on a pole.
TBF, I would also question the morality of a ten year old girl dressed like a hooker dancing on a pole.
I wonder if any of these overbearing AWFLs enabling these events would take their 10 year olds to a wholesome brunch at the Prancing Pony?
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TBF, I would also question the morality of a ten year old girl dressed like a hooker dancing on a pole.
Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
My most recent estrangement from my AWFL Sister-in-Law was because after she dragged her daughters to one of the Arlington Drag story hours, I offered to by them tickets to a Pussycat Dolls show for balance.
she is visiting with the kids over Columbus day weekend, so that should be fun. I might take the girls to the range.
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I might take the girls to the range.
YOU'RE AN EXTREMIST MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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YOU'RE AN EXTREMIST MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nothing says "niece's first trip to the range" like a suppressed 9mm AR and maybe a suppressed 22/45. Too bad the stamp's not bake to SBR the GSG-5 yet....
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liberalism is the new taliban.
Taliban is known for raping little boys, I recall stories of our troops getting in trouble for intervening.
Taliban makes woman wear burquas - making them disappear, radlibs are making women disappear by forcing corporations and academia
to legally define a woman as any dude that says he is.
Women are disappearing from womens sports because they can't compete with dudes and win, oop's I mean "biological" men.
Taliban take over govt and execute dissenters, you know for certain the admin in office would love to do that if they could.
Idaho? last week was the 30th anniversary of the gov't shooting a teen boy and his dog walking on his own property, then shooting his mom in the face as she was holding an infant .
how many pistol braces who's owners are comepletly unaware of new regs are going to be shot?