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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Brad Johnson on July 08, 2022, 09:54:03 AM
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James Webb Space Telescope images inbound. First release scheduled for July 12.
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/countdown-to-the-webb-telescopes-first-images
Yeah, it's gonna be cool.
Brad
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I will enjoy it too but please remember that whatever images will be released to the public will be heavily processed to make them pretty to look at. They are basically artists renderings. Some people understand this and enjoy the results knowingly, but it bothers me that a lot of people don't and think they are looking at something they could see with their own eyes through a traditional telescope.
The great thing about astronomers is they always release the raw data, unlike the swindlers in charge of particle colliders, who basically only ever release the artist rendering and then assure everyone that the billions of dollars were worth it because they said so, and oh by the way the result shows that they need more billions.
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I will enjoy it too but please remember that whatever images will be released to the public will be heavily processed to make them pretty to look at. They are basically artists renderings. Some people understand this and enjoy the results knowingly, but it bothers me that a lot of people don't and think they are looking at something they could see with their own eyes through a traditional telescope.
A lot has to do with camera exposure times. Look at the Andromeda Galaxy through a telescope and all you'll see is a cloudy smug of light.
A long exposure with a camera is needed to produce those pretty pictures we're used to seeing since the light is so faint.
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The great thing about astronomers is they always release the raw data, unlike the swindlers in charge of particle colliders, who basically only ever release the artist rendering and then assure everyone that the billions of dollars were worth it because they said so, and oh by the way the result shows that they need more billions.
Climate scientists are bigger swindlers - green new deal, global warming, carbon credits, and on and on - their scam makes Bernie Madoff look like an alley hustler with a game of three card Monte by comparison.
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Climate scientists are bigger swindlers - green new deal, global warming, carbon credits, and on and on - their scam makes Bernie Madoff look like an alley hustler with a game of three card Monte by comparison.
That would get you banned on facebook and twitter.
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"Space" - just another swindle pawned off on us by the round-earth cult. Enjoy your fake pictures of fictional "space," sheeple.
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Climate scientists are bigger swindlers - green new deal, global warming, carbon credits, and on and on - their scam makes Bernie Madoff look like an alley hustler with a game of three card Monte by comparison.
There are a lot of parallels. Such as over reliance on simulation, over reliance on complex models that are extraordinarily sensitive to input assumptions, models that are so complicated that they can't be audited, models that are created by the researchers and never seem to give results other than the results they want, conclusions from the models never seem to indicate (because they can't) that the assumptions are wrong or that they need less money, severe group-think, untestability by third or disinterested partys, etc. Constant appeals to authority and experts being the only ones who can understand, etc.
I would say the primary difference is that climate "science" has been latched onto by political forces, and they haven't figured out a way to do that for high energy "physics". So the harm is much less in the "physics" case because they are merely wasting billions of public dollars pursuing their hobby, which at least employs a few grad students, and is several times less evil than the billions we give to banks for no reason at all.
Note that not all science mega projects are swindles. Astronomy is great because their objective is clear and noble, they generally release all their data and don't have anything up their sleeve. The money spent results in actual science. Similarly with things like the national ignition facility, fusion research to a large extent, etc. I'm not anti science or even anti spending big money on science, I'm just saying that what the particle accelerator people are doing is not science.
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You can say that until they create a vacuum decay bubble and destroy the planet. Cause of science.
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15 minutes
Biden is suppose to do the reveal
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/#public
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Jeff Foust
@jeff_foust
In honor of the years of delays in the development of JWST, the White House event where the first full-color image will be released has been delayed from 5pm to 5:30pm EDT.
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Biden must still be napping
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Drugs taking a while to kick in.
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Zzzzzzzzzzz
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Is Harris president yet?
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Biden's and Harris's leadership :rofl:
Looks like it's all Harris so far.
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OMG the the self promoting is nauseating
Signing woman looks like she's trying to not crack up.
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Already over.
Could barely seen the image
Zero scientific info or analysis
It's was 99% politicians patting themselves on the back
Sigh
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(https://images.axios.com/psoxIhmpwn8dOgZvwaQoceoyl0s=/2022/07/11/1657578273079.jpg)
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Suppose to be more tomorrow.
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(https://images.axios.com/psoxIhmpwn8dOgZvwaQoceoyl0s=/2022/07/11/1657578273079.jpg)
My God, it's full of stars!
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Whoa....
That image has a bunch of gravitational lensing!
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My God, it's full of stars!
I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission.
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Whoa....
That image has a bunch of gravitational lensing!
Yup. Gravity will bend light. Kinda makes me wonder what effect light might have on gravity. After all, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Find that and you just might find the answer to the resolution of the unified theory of physics. [popcorn]
Woody
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Yup. Gravity will bend light. Kinda makes me wonder what effect light might have on gravity. After all, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Find that and you just might find the answer to the resolution of the unified theory of physics. [popcorn]
Woody
Then move on to trying to figure out ever even more complicated things, like figuring out women
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Gotta figure out what a woman is, first of all.
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^^^Or birthing person.
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May need to click on open in new tab or similar to see the whole image depending on what browser you're using
Carina Nebula
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/6377862f-32ff-4f97-90a0-0d730aea3dbe.jpg)
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Stephan’s Quintet
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/acc3497b-fb53-49cf-a7f7-6d3718a2c351.jpg)
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This side-by-side comparison shows observations of the Southern Ring Nebula in near-infrared light, at left, and mid-infrared light, at right, from NASA’s Webb Telescope. (NASA/ESA/CSA/STScI)
(https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/digital-images/org/55c319b1-0b2a-4cb1-84e6-cff9dd3435cf.jpg)
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Comparison of JWST's image above of Carina Nebula to Hubble's
https://twitter.com/MGH/status/1546881276417810433/photo/1
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Absolutely amazing.
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Gotta figure out what a woman is, first of all.
I had that figured out decades ago. The libs are the ones having a problem with it.
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(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293396021_10160397883173735_1324389893106601042_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5cd70e&_nc_ohc=hY0iLrRu8ZQAX_0N-Jf&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AT8sM9EYiC_jScEY1Qnot5lajweyjhjgTZ0RLtu3PbEXVg&oe=62D2346E)
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Wow. Just wow.
Brad
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Then move on to trying to figure out ever even more complicated things, like figuring out women
Now, there is a challenge!
Woody
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Gotta figure out what a woman is, first of all.
Before that, you've gotta find a couple that know what they are themselves! :facepalm: :rofl:
Woody
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Just announced that the James Webb space telescope has intercepted a verified message from an alien life form.
Roughly translated, it reads:
"We've been trying to reach you about the extended warranty on your space telescope."
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A comparison:
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293327856_1486567195124506_1568855375610083541_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qtegvHlq8TMAX8mhpxq&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_RaTWrVTaOyoRJmpj3IiFjdxWINUJwl94h0zOsiXgnOg&oe=62D43353)
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I can only imagine how ecstatic NASA personnel must have been to see these, given the odds of the JWST failing to deploy properly. Kind of brings a tear to my eye, to be honest.
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Best vaporware evar!!1! :laugh:
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A comparison:
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293327856_1486567195124506_1568855375610083541_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=qtegvHlq8TMAX8mhpxq&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AT_RaTWrVTaOyoRJmpj3IiFjdxWINUJwl94h0zOsiXgnOg&oe=62D43353)
It's an obvious photoshop. =D
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The second one seems to show a fleet of star destroyers. I think we woke the cylons.
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I moved it to the mad thread.
Rather not clutter up this thread with such stuff
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See the Birth of a New Star: Webb Space Telescope Captures Once-Hidden Features of a Protostar
https://scitechdaily.com/see-the-birth-of-a-new-star-webb-space-telescope-captures-once-hidden-features-of-a-protostar/
(https://scitechdaily.com/images/L1527-and-Protostar-Webb-NIRCam-Image-1505x1536.jpg?ezimgfmt=ng:webp/ngcb2)
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What?
They still haven't bowed to wokeness and canceled Webb's name and renamed it the RuPaul-Elton John-Ellen Degeneres-George Takai Anti-cis Normal Anti White Privilege Transgender/No gender/Fluid gender/Genderless Space Telescope?
I'm offended.
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Gotta figure out what a woman is, first of all.
It's whatever she says she is, you troglodyte.
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It's whatever she says she is, you troglodyte.
What are you, some kind of biologist?
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The VA Doc asked me my "gender" the other day. My response? "I was born with a penis and I still have it and I have XY Chromosomes so I'm pretty sure I am, and always have been,a male."
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The VA Doc asked me my "gender" the other day. My response? "I was born with a penis and I still have it and I have XY Chromosomes so I'm pretty sure I am, and always have been,a male."
Try saying that on facebook
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What?
They still haven't bowed to wokeness and canceled Webb's name and renamed it the RuPaul-Elton John-Ellen Degeneres-George Takai Anti-cis Normal Anti White Privilege Transgender/No gender/Fluid gender/Genderless Space Telescope?
I'm offended.
Sucks to be you then :rofl:
It's official: NASA won't rename James Webb Space Telescope
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-wont-be-renamed
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Try saying that on facebook
Did, not a peep.
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Sucks to be you then :rofl:
It's official: NASA won't rename James Webb Space Telescope
https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-wont-be-renamed
Oh, I know, and some of them are NOT willing to give up the crusade.