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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: WLJ on December 06, 2022, 09:36:27 AM

Title: Bill banning most semi-autos in Michigan
Post by: WLJ on December 06, 2022, 09:36:27 AM
Something to keep an eye on

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Newly introduced bills in Lansing would ban future sales and ownership of semiautomatic rifles and the open carry of them in Michigan.

On the anniversary of the Oxford High School shooting last week, State Rep. Jeffrey Pepper of Dearborn introduced two bills to address gun violence.

One bill would ban the possession and sale of semiautomatic rifles in 2024 and the other would ban open carry of long firearms in public spaces.
MI Democrat controlled legislature could push semiautomatic firearms ban in 2023 session
https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/politics/mi-democrat-controlled-legislature-could-push-semiautomatic-firearms-ban-during-2023-session/69-552341a3-d8c4-4df4-a166-2f0a00f21db3

These made up numbers are making him very angry!

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“I am taking the ACTION I promised to take to ensure that this violence never happens in our communities again. We are on the heels of yet another targeted shooting in Colorado committed by an extremist with an automatic weapon — and 605 other mass shootings in 2022 alone that killed over 18,000 innocent people in the United States. Michigan has had 24 mass shootings this year, and Michiganders are rightly ANGRY. My office has been contacted all year by constituents asking WHEN and HOW we are going to take action.
Pepper Introduces Legislation Against Gun Violence
https://housedems.com/pepper-introduces-legislation-against-gun-violence/

The bill
http://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2021-2022/billintroduced/House/pdf/2022-HIB-6544.pdf

I just did a quick scan but this jumped out at me.
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Sec. 1. As used in this act, "assault weapon" means a1
semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable2
magazine and has 1 or more of the following characteristics:

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(iv) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely2
encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the3
firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but4
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel.

As written any and all handguards are evil shrouds



Title: Re: Bill banning most semi-autos in Michigan
Post by: sumpnz on December 06, 2022, 08:54:39 PM
Is this like so many leftard politicians that propose a bill to appeal to their donors but has zero chance of passing?  Or is this a legit threat to 2A rights?
Title: Re: Bill banning most semi-autos in Michigan
Post by: 230RN on December 10, 2022, 04:40:16 AM
"Isn't that the thing that goes up?"

Is this like so many leftard politicians that propose a bill to appeal to their donors but has zero chance of passing?  Or is this a legit threat to 2A rights?

Or is it another one of those bills you gamble on to pass by sheer chance, so you keep introducing it session after session? The US House is composed of 435 members.  By sheer chance of some ignorant votes, sometimes the outcome will be only 217 votes in favor so it fails, sometimes 218 votes so it passes.  "Yay! It passed!"

This one with the handguard provision reminds me of "the shoulder thing that goes up" debacle of Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY), where she didn't know what a "barrel shroud" was.

https://youtu.be/Me2BfiXSpXk (1:13)

When you stop to think about it, it's surprising how laws can be passed or defeated by a few "random" ignorant legislators.*

Ms. McCarthy was very embarrassed  about her introducing a bill where she did not understand at least one of its critical components.

You still hear remarks about "the shoulder thing that goes up," and if you were wondering about its genesis, that video clip will provide the answer.

That is, if it isn't purged / cleansed / censored  / Snoped away as being unclean and immoral or extremist or counter-agenda or Trump's fault or whatever tissue-paper excuse might be dreamed up.

Capture it on your machine in case it's "disappeared."

Terry, 230RN

*The same kind of random factors are at play even in the Committees formed to review these bills.